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in writing from Loosen P l urpb i ng and Heating that they w i l l take care of the damage
cost done to the pumphouse is received. Seconded by Mr. Zelinka. Motion carried
with Mr. Marier voting no.
The Cohncil then considered the final acceptance recommendations for the sewer and water
mains. Mr. Locher reminded the Council they must have plans for hauling the waste
and some plans for billing.
Mr. Cardinal said this was true but that we can't hold back on the payment just because
we don't have plans for handling the system. Mr. Marier said he had some questions as
to what was put into the system and he moved to table the acceptance until the next
meeting. Seconded by Mr. Zelinka. Motion carried with Mr. CArdinal voting No.
All plans for handling the system must be ready for the next meeting. The Clerk
was asked to contact Mr. Carlson, who is doing the hauling now, and ask him to appear
at our next meeting and to bring a sampling of his billings for the hauling service.
Mr. Tom Melcher appeared before the Council with a complaint in regards to Mr. Boyd,
Plumbing inspector. His plumbing system passed the first, but did not pass the
second test, and had been red tagged by Mr. Boyd. There was much discussion on his
problem and as to the probable cause. Mr. Marier moved to waive the 10 day compliance
on the red tag and to have Mr. Boyd and Mr. Melchor at the next meeting in order to
resolve their differences. Seconded by Mr. CArdinal. Motion Carried.
Mr. Marier questioned the requisitions for plugs, points and condensers for the
Police Cars and the truck. He would have the Clerk check and see when the last ones
were bought for these vehicles.
Mr. Marier moved to hold the requisitions for plugs, points, and condensers for
Vehicles #200 -300- 302. Mr. CArdinal seconded. Motion carried.
Mr. Zelinka moved to have Mr. Backlin get two written bids for 64th Street. Mr.
Marier seconded. Motion carried.
Mr. Cardinal moved to approve requisitions No. 149 thru 153 and $156. Mr. Zelinka
seconded. Motion Carried.
Mr. CArdinal moved to approve the bills #4471 thru #4797 inclusive. Mr. Zelinka
seconded. Motion Carried.
Mr. Marier moved to adjourn at 1 1 :00 P. M. Mr. Cardinal seconded. Aye.
CMinutes approved at November 13 , 1972 meeting. -��
Clerk-Treasurer
October 19, 1972
The special assessment hearing for U. S. Lakes Development Company was called to order at
8:10 P. M. by Mayor Bohjanen. Turstees present Marier and Zelinka. Absent were Mr.
Cardinal and Mr. Jaworski. Attorney Locher, Mr. Gottwald, Mr. Carley, Mr. Springsted were
IIIalso present. Mr. Dielentheis and Mr. Busch represented U. S. Lakes Development Company.
Mr. Locher read the notices of publications and mailing.
Mr. Bohjanen asked Mr. Marier to read the recommendations from the P. & Z Board. "Mr.
Kelling moved that the Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the Council that the
two applications for variance to our Zoning Code presented by U. S. Lakes Development
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to be accepted provided that U. S. Lakes revises their applications as follows:
1. Both applications be revised to provide for R I Zoning on all lands
covered in the two applications.
2. Delete all open space or park proposal from the two applications.
3. The platting be revised to utilize those areas that were designated as open
space.
4. Revise East Shadow Lake Drive to suggested layout provided by U. S. Lakes.
5. The development and sale of lots be restricted to 75 -80% of the presently serviced
areas before proceeding to platted areas requiring extension of services.
Seconded by Mr. Shea ren . Carried with Mr. Nadeau voting no, as he didn't understand every
aspect.
Mr. Kelling moved secondly that the P &Z Commission recommend to the Council that they
develop an open space or park proposal that will also provide public assess of Reshnau
Lake and that this proposal be presented to U. S. Lakes. U. S. Lakes after negotiation,
wi l l provide lands in their development to support this proposal in a quantity related to
their 10% requirement under our ordinances. Seconded by Mr. Karth, Motion carried
unanimously."
Mr. Gotwald said he had not had time to look at the latest drawing. His report was on the
first c cncept. He would need more time to look at the newer map.
Mr. Locher read the law pertaining to the park area - -a reasonably portion may be developed
and dedicated to the public as a park - or an equal amount in cash in proportion to the
undeveloped land may be paid, this money to be used for park purposes. This must also
take into consideration the land that is used as a common area for the residents.
Mr. Carley reported that all he needs to know is which plat to compute the assessment
against. A l l he really needs is the total number of Tots to charge the special
assessment against. He said that there is no problem in doing this.
Mr. Marier said that we didn't know what the final would be. Mr. Marier explained the
concept of the parks from the map. He suggested that the Council delay any decision until
the plans are all in.
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Mr. Bohjanen asked about certification of the special assessments to the Auditor's Office.
Mr. Locher said the certifications were supposed to be in by October 24th, but he thought
it was possible to get an extension. He would try.
Mr. Busch explained that the new map was exactly the same as the one the Planner and Engineer
has had for a couple of weeks. That the new map only shows how the new plat will fit into
the overall plan of the development. He then went over the P &Z Boards recommendations,
stating that these are things that are not concerned with the platting but with the mechanics
of the area. The only two things in question are the relocation of one street and the usage
of the land now proposed for open space, and these things are not connected with the approval
of the plat #3.
Mr. Gotwald said that the 2nd drawing was basically the same as the first - -the new map just
shows how the plat fits into the overall picture.
Mr. Radcliff from the audience said that not a single resident was in favor of this new
planning. Didn't the residents have some rights? and wouldn't their objections carry
any weight?
Mr. Borovansky said he felt that Mr. Marier's implication was that it was not approved,
but that Mr. Busch seems to feel that it was approved.
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Mr. Marier explained his position. The P &Z worked with what they had. There are five
recommendations from the Planner and three from the Engineer.
Mr. Bohjanen asked Mr. Busch about the five recommendations from the P &Z, Mr. Busch
replied that #1 - the company is agreeable to all R 1 zoning; #2 & #3 - if the Council
approved these recommendations, then this is fine with U. S. Lakes; #4 - they agree to the
revision of East Shadow Lake Drive; #5 - This is agreeable also.
Mrs. Borovansky asked if they take out the buffer zone then what will be done with this
land = will there be more homes in the area - just how will this land be used? Mr. Busch
tried to explain but Mr. Marier interrupted and said that he had given f'ris recommendations
and felt that Mr. Busch was out of order. Mr. Busch said these are only plans and deal only
with the mechanics of the plat, not the basic platting. Mr. Marier said these things should
be dealt with by the Planner and Engineer and felt that the floor should be opened for
questions.
Mrs. Borovansky said she felt that her question had not been answered. Is this the only
plan that they can look at - isnt there a counter proposal? How many other homes will be
put in this buffer zone?
Mr. Busch explain -d that these plans are not the Company's but are from the P8Z. The
Company would prefer to leave the park area of about 13 acres of land. If this is removed
from the buffer zone then the streets wi I I be redesigned and there will be about 18 more
lots.
Mr. Zelinka asked why the P &Z eliminated the green area? What was their thinking on this?
Mr. Marier replied that the P &Z felt that the buffer zone did nothing to enhance the entire
community and they had considered the cost of maintainance. IMr. Marier then announced
that he was leaving the meeting, that he had presented his report and he felt that when
the Council was ready to work as a Council and not be ruled by a developer then he would
return. Mr. Marier teft the Council Chambers at 8:55 P. M. Since two Councilmen were
absent, there was not a quorum left therefore no legal action could be taken. IMr.
Bohjanen suggested that we continue the meeting as an informative meeting.
Mr. Johnson said that he had bought his house because it was on the golf course, because
of the Country Club, the beach, the marina, in short he had bought a package and know they
had none of these things and if this plat is approved then they will not have a golf course.
He felt that he had been taken.
Mr. Busch said he had no answer for a question of that sort put in such an argumanative manner
Platt #3 is an answer to moving forward. Also the residents' problems are with the Company
and is a private matter not be handled at a meeting such as this. This area was re- designed
to meet the cost of assessment.
Mr. Zelinka wanted to clear the record on the way he felt. He has not made up his mind
and he doesn't make up his mind until he had all the facts. His questions to Mr. Marier
were merely to get more information.
Mr. Busch said the Company was agreeable to setting up another meeting at any date
convenient with the Council. It is mandatory that this be done as soon as possi ble if it
is to be put on the tax rolls for 1973. Also they cannot build model homes until the plat
is approved. Since there is about 90 days from start to finish on a home, this put their
showing of models off until sometime in February.
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There was discussion on the assessment per lot. Mr. Gotwald said the original figure of
2500 was based on a certain number of single family homes, townhouses and multiple
dwellings - in other words so much per living unit. He then explained the dealys and
setbacks that have occured in the past in that area. There would be no problem in
extending the water and sewer laterals to include a larger area as they were designed for
just that purpose. Actually the lines would work better if there was more waste flowage
in them.
Mr. Benson said he thought that the pumping in fromt of his house was to be halted before
this.
Mr. Gotwald said that the Metro Sewer or The Village will be responsible for the pumping
and it will be done at the lift station and at the present time the street is being paved
so that it will be passible all year round. The pumping should halt in a week to 10 days.
Mr. Johnson asked if the assessments could not be billed to the future owners? That an
extra 1300 would not have stopped him from buying his home.
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Mr. Busch said that extra charges such as this are a deterant to the selling of homes
and the Company likes to have such charges on homes that are sold in the volume that these
are to be i n .
Mr. Jaworski arrived at 9:20 P. M.
Mr. Locher suggested that the meeting be continued to a later date. He also reported that
there is enough money to pay the interest for next year if we don't get the special
assessments on the tax rolls.
Mr. Bohjanen said that the statement to the arffect that "our minds were made up" was
untrue and that he has never leaned toward the developer. Also the Village cannot
get involved in the buyer -- seller conflict. He hopes the Company and the residents can get
together and solve their differences apart from the Village.
Mrs. Johnson asked why not put the green area back into a golf course as long as the P &Z
recommended deleting it?
Mr. Busch said there isn't room enough in the area a I I oted for the buffer zone - that it
isn't wide encough.
Mr. Bohjanen suggested having the meeting continued until 7:30 P. M. Oct. 24, 1972. Mr.
Gotwald thought that a meeting without the P &Z members was useless.
Mr. Zelinka moved to continue the special assessment hearing of U. S. Lakes Development
Company until 7:15 P. M., October 24, 1972, prior to the regular Council Meeting in order
to act on the recommendations of the P &Z. Also the Planner and Mr. McLean, P &Z Board
Chairman is to be present. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Motion carried.
Mr. Zelinka asked about removing the buffer zone. Mr. Busch said that the overall Park was
preferred and they were concerned about motorized vehicles such as mini =bikes and snow-
mobiles in hte area. Mr. Buxch presented a map of t -e planting of the area. Mr. Benson
asked why the Council would not listen to Mr. Marier, one of their own members, but
would listen to the ramblings of Mr. Busch?
Mr. Zelinka answered that he didn't "NOT" listen to Mr. Marier, but that he had not
understood and was trying to get the information he needed. We do not lean to one side
or the other - but must make our decision on the information input and in consideration
of the entire Vi l lage.
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Mr. Benson asked if the decision on Tuesday is for the plat - is it final? Can it be
appealed?
Mr. Locher said the assessment could be appealed if the residents were paying them but
in this case the builder is paying so there is no appeal in that area. They can appeal
the plat on charges of capriciousness but that was a pretty difficult charge to prove.
Mr. Locher pointed out that his quarrel is with the Company and not with the Village.
The meeting broke up about 10:00 P.M. with many people still carrying their conversation
to the members of the Council that were present.
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A special meeting of the Lino Lakes Village Council to certify the ballots was called
to order at 7:45 P. M. on November 9, 1972, by Mayor Bohjanen. Councilmen present:
Cardinal, Jaworski, and Zelinka. Absent: Marier.
The clerk read the election results as fol lows:
For President
McGovern & Sh r i ve r 618
Nixon & Agnew 495
Schmitz &Anderson 19
Spock & Hobson 3
R. Jaworski 1
Blank or defective ballots 14
For U. S. Senate
Walter Mondale
Phil Hanson
Karl H. Heck
Blank or defective ballots
702
437
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U. S. Representative in Congress
John A Blatnik 842
Edward Johnson 293
Blank or Defective ballots 15
Public Service Commissioner
Karl F . Rolvaag
P. Kenneth Peterson
Blank or defective ballots
753
387
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Associate Justice Supreme Court
C. Donald Peterson 1000
Blank or defective ballots 150
Associate Justice of Supreme Court
Fallon Kelly 970
Blank or defective ballots 180
Senator - Legislature, 49th District
Beverly N. Braun 431
Johm Milton 664
Blank or defective ballots 54
Representative in Legislature 49A Dist.
Gary Gallagher 526
Vince Lombardi 584
Blank or defective ballots 39
Judge of County Court
James T. Knutson 986
Blank or defectibe ballots 163
Joseph Wargo 914
Blank or defective ballots 235
County Commissioner, 3rd Districe
Robert C. Burman 1006
Aj Ross 1
Blank or defective ballots 142
Supervisor Soil and
Frank A. Anderson
Harlan ERickson
Walter Prachar
Al Ross
Art Hawkins
Pete Nadeau
Bruce Fleming
John Popham
Blank or defective
Water Cons Dist.
939
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ballots 191