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The regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Village Council held on April 10, 1972 was
calkbd to order ar 8 P.M. by Mayor Bohjanen. Trustees present were: Cardinal, Marier
and Swanson; absent was: Jaworski . Also present were: Attorney Locher, Engineer
Gotwald and Clerk Mrs. Emerton.
Mr. Marier stated that it takes from 15 minutes to half hour to correct the minutes.
He asked if there wouldn't be a quicker way to expedite the movements rather than sit
here and do it like this; he thought the minutes should be right the first time.
Mr. Marier moved to approve the minutes of the March 27th meeting as corrected.
Seconded by Mrs. Swanson. Carried unanimoutly.
Mr. Marier moved to approve the minutes of the March 30th special meeting as written.
Seconded by Mrs. Swanson. Motion carried with Mr. Cardinal abstaining.
Mr. Dean Jiachim was next on the agenda to explain the Kinsman program. He noted
the following:
1. The program began in Circle Pines a year ago; meetings are held at Our
Saviour's Luthern Church.
2. It is part of a national program to bring adults and children who usually
have onlu 1 parent together. The children in the program are from 8 to
17 years of age. Some senior high students are involved and may be paired
with younger children 8 to 10 years old.
3. The local group has 15 boys and girls involved; 2 of the adult Kinsmen are
from Lino Lakes. Anyone interested can contact him.
Mrs. Swanson asked if this program is similar to the Big Brother group. Mr. Joachim
said it was on that order, but that this program was for both boys and girls; also,
Kinsmen will work with those who have broken laws since this is a preventative
program. He was thanked for his presentation and left.
Mr. Richard Roberts was on the agende to report on his hog operation. He said that
he had given up all expectations of having a feeding operation for his hogs, and that
he would revert back to general farming; he had 50 hogs now.
Mr. Cardinal said that Mr. Roberts was thus no different from any other farmer, and
that even if he had nore hogs, he wouldn't be commercial; Mr. Cardinal saw no problems
on this.
Mr. Melcher, neighbor of Mr. Roberts' farm, commented in the ensuing discussion that:
1. Mr. Roberts' boy had hauled 7 cans of garbage in 3 weeks ago.
2. What will happen if Roberts is caught feeding garbage?
3. Isn't there an ordinance that says you can't increase a hog operation?
Mr. Roberts told him that his boy had hauled in shelled corn from Hugo. Council felt
that a complaint would be made out if Roberts was feeding garbage. Mr.Locher read
Sect. 4.08 of Ord. 56 on farming operations.
Mrs. Swanson brought forth the following points:
I When this matter was first brought to the attention of the Council back in
November, it was stated that Roberts was to bring the number of hogs down to
50 and to eliminate feeding garbage in 60 and 30 days respectively.
2. Roberts was to have only 3 sows in order to eliminate the overpopulation
problem.
3. Roberts' farm property is zoned agricultural, not commercial or residential.
4. Roberts had not phased out the number of hogs as instructed, as an examination
by the CountyfHealth Officers on March 3rd showed the number of hogs to be
100. He had not phased out feeding garbage by that date, either.
5. That the November minutes said we would take Roberts at his work; the
investigation showed that he didn't keep his word so how does he expect us
to take his word again.
6. Suggested that we ask the Board of Health to take another check on Mr.
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Roberts' operation in 60 or 90 days.
7. Asked what law Mr. Roberts had broken.
Mr. Bohjanen asked Mr. Roberts if he had dropped 50 hogs since March 3rd; Mr.
Roberts said Yes, that these were butcher hogs which he had sold. He had the
sales slip in his pocket.
John McLean informed Mrs. Swanson that before Ord. 56 was adopted, all land in
Lino Lakes was either zoned as residential- agricultural or rezoned to commercial.
Mr. Locher read Sect. 4 of Ord. #6 regarding hog farms in residential areas. He
noted that the previous owner did not occupy the farm as a hog farm. He had checked
the records and found that Roberts had purchased the farm under the old ordinance
prior to the adoption or Ord. #56, as the deeds were finalized on May 21,1971.
Mr. Locher stated that feeding of garbage to the hogs is out.
Mr. Marier asked Mr. Roberts the following questions:
I. You do not and will not feed garbage on this place in the future?
2. Will you conduct a farm operation according to the one of the previous
owner?
3. Do you have adequate facilities to keep the hogs in?
Mr. Roberts answered Yes to.all three questions. He also stated that he only
has 3 sows left.
Council was satisfied that Mr. Roberts should understand that we wish him to keep
to general farming, that he neither cook nor feed any garbage to his hogs. Mr.
Marier wished the matter to be put on the agenda for review in 60 days and that the
County Health Dept. investigate the operation in the interim period.
The Clerk reported receipt of the following items:
1. Approval of the Minnesota Dept. of Health on the water main system for
the Shenandoah project.
2. The new Workman's Compensation Insurance policy.
3. The paid -up loan papers on the 1971 Chevrolet dump truck.
4. A quarterly report from North Central Public Service.
5. Brochures from the PERA Committee for Change.
6. Completed collateral papers from Centennial State Bank of Lexington.
7. Soil boring test results for Ken Rehbein's office building site.
8. A revised form from the State Insurance Division on our police department.
Mr. Bohjanen felt this should be filled out so we can qualify for
State aid. Mr. Marier asked how long this matter layed dormant;
Mr. Locher said that it had come out of 1971 Legislation.
9. A housing bulletin from Metro Council.
10. Requests for buried lines from Northwestern Bell and North Central
Public Services; these were given to Mr. Gotwald to check over.
II. A quotation of $245 on a Busicom Jr. 12 column electronic calculator
from Clary Business Machines.
12. A bid from Jim Livingston on building a tool crib. Also, a price which
Mr. Backlin compiled on a wire crib as well as for shelving.
There was discussion on the material to go into the crib. Mr. Marier moved to
award the contract for building the tool crib to Mr. Jim Livingston at a cost
of $330 per the specs shown, and that a requisition and purchase order be made
out before the work starts. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried unanimously.
Mr. Livingston said he could start work this week.
The Clerk had two corrections to the March financial reports: I. The quarterly
payroll report showed an amount of $20 paid to John Juleen paid out of Parks Fund -
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this should read Civil Defense Fund. 2. The receipts report should show receipt
#4139 void since the $12.50 check was bad. Mr. Marier informed the Clerk that he
wished the quarterly payroll report to include amounts paid to all persons we
employ such as the Attorney and Engineer.
Mr. Cardinal reported that the Parks Dept. has been repairing the hockey fences
and have bought paint so that the painting can begin soon. He felt the Council
should consider enlarging the warming house to double its size. He had checked
on doors for the warming house as requested, but felt we should hold on this
until we decide on enlarging the house, and so both jobs at the same time.
Mr. Cardinal said he would meet with Roy and mark off where the new ball dia-
monds will be built. The diamond which will be at the Hall will go where we
have been taking dirt since last fall. Mr. Marier asked who would do the grading;
Mr. Cardinal felt that Columbus might. Mrs. Swanson said that she remembered
Mr. Jaworski mentioning a cost of $2500 for the grading, and wondered if we
would get involved in that amount of money. Mr. Cardinal suggested having the
Engineer get an estimate. Mrs. Swanson wanted Mr. Cardinal to get a couple of
bids on the project.
Mr. Marier reported that the P &Z had come up with a proposal on the minimum
requirements for dwelling units in order to amend Ord. No. 56. Mr Marier read
the proposals as follows:
Single Family Dwellings
A. I story - 1000 sq. ft. Split entry - 1000 sq. ft.
IZ story - 1000 sq. ft. 2 story 850 sq. ft.
split level - 1000 sq. ft.
B. In regard to basementless homes an additional minimum area of 100 sq. ft.
to house utilities will be required.
C. Minimum of 100 sq. ft. liveable areas except baths, kitchens or utility
rooms.
D. Minimum ceiling height on main floor of 8 ft. and all other floors 7 2 ft.
E. Square footage minimums will apply to the basic outline dimensions of the
building, and square footage credits are not allowed for living areas
on different levels.
Apartments Townhouses, Condominiums & Quadrominiums
Efficiency - 680 sq. ft. 2 bedroom - 1180 sq. ft.
I bedroom - 800 sq. ft. 3 bedroom 1300
2 bedroom - 920 4 bedroom - 1420
3 bedroom - 1040 Planned Unit Development
4 bedroom - 1160 Efficiency & I bedroom - 700 sq. ft.
There was considerable discussion on this. Clyde Rehbein displayed the new
brochures advertising his various house styles in the Shenandoah project, and
made several comments:
1. Two houses shown in his brochure are under the 1000 sq. ft. minimum, at
934 and 960 sq. ft.
2. He understood that the Village wished to raise the tax base by increasing
the minimum sizes, but that minimum size doesn't guarantee the value, and
he could build a 1400 sq. ft. shack if he used cheap materials.
3. Most other places require a 90 sq. ft. minimum on liveable areas; this is
the figure in the new State Code.
4. They planned to have an open house for the Council and the P &Z soon, and
would appreciate it if members looked at their homes before adopting this.
5. They include a 2 -car attached garage, carpeting, black -top driveway and a
sodded yard with all their homes, all of these items except the sod adding
to the tax base. They only deduct $2000 from the selling price if a
person doesn't want the attached garage.
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6. He felt that some people buy a 3 bedroom house only for its resale value,
and that the house of the future is 2- bedroom; the third bedroom is often
used for a den or other such purpose.
7. We should be more lenient on minimum sizes for split -foyer houses since
the basements are usually finished off for living area.
8. If he is not allowed to build his 960 sq. ft. rambler because it doesn't
meet the code, he might as well throw out all the plans since making the
rambler larger will put it in competition with another of his models.
9. If the Village raises the footage of the bedrooms, it will affect about
every house he has.
10. Felt that the Council was afraid of FHA 235 homes, but noted he could
build houses to any minimums we require and cheapen them to 235 variety.
Donald Waalen of U. S. Lakes Development Co. wished to comment on the square
footage of town houses:
I. They have a variance request in now to reduce the minimum sizes of their
units.
2. An increase of even 1 sq. ft. means changing the specifications.
3. There should be different specs on different style singe - family resedences,
i. e., the minimum size for split -level homes should not be as great as
the other homes.
4. Reminded the Council of a conference at the Ramada Inn on the subject of
the new State Building Code.
Mr. Marier asked the two developers haw many brochures they had printed up and
how long it would take to phase them out. Don Waalen thought they had about
500 left and that it would take about 6 months to phase them out. Clyde Rehbein
said they had just printed 2000 at a cost of about $1200, and they had planned
to use them for a couple of years.
Clyde said he had talked with the State Building Inspector and with Rep. Albert-
son who had told him that minicipalities may not deviate from the State Code
minimums. Mr. Marier Said that they might have told Clyde that, but he (Marier)
was not sure that was right.
Mr. Locher stated that he had talked with Mr. Claeson and Mr. Peskar, League
attornies, and to a Mike Gallagher on the subject. These men felt that since
there had been no test case yet, the matter is open; but that if there were an
Attorney General's Opinion we would have to take it.
Mr. Marier stated that the new code has not yet been adopted, and there are no
stipulations now on local municipalities.
Mr. Marier moved that we maka proper publication on amending Ord. #56 regarding
the minimum unit size as he had so stated from the P &Z proposal. Seconded by
Mrs. Swanson. Carried unanimously. It was decided to set the hearing on this
proposed amendment at 8:30 P.M. on May 8th at the regular Council Meeting.
Mr. Rehbein asked if this meant that the Council will vote to adopt this code
as stated, or if it could be changed. He was advised that the code might be
changed at the hearing before its adoption.
Mr. Marier stated that the Planner had brought to the attention fo the P &Z that
the landscaping in Chomonix was not as it shoud be, that silt was washing over
the road throughout the project, that the Village doesn't want silt running into
the lake, that some of the people who hought homes in Chomonix aren't too happy,
and that the Village has a problem pinning Mr. Waalen down as to when the work
will be completed.
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Mr. Waalen answered this by noting that they recognized the problem, that due
to the mud and frost they had lost traffic to their model homes for a period,
that the riads are in a sub -base condition, there is frost along the roadbed.
He said that they will be able to do some 'landscaping when it dries up, that a
lot of restoring is yet to be done by the contractor, that they only have a
small cat in there now, that FHA and VHA deadlines go to July Ist, and he would
like to use that date.
Mr. Cardinal stated that they couldn't do much(unti1 the road restrictions are
off so that they can move their equipment. Mr. Marier felt that by June 15th
the place shoudld be in good shape.
Mr. Marier mentioned that at the open meeting held on April 3rd, some question
had come up as to septic tanks. He asked the Clerk to give him a list of the
persons to whom the County had sent letters on their sewer systems, as well as
a copy of the letter itself if it is in the file.
Mr. Gotwald said that he had a copy of that letter, and that last year the
people had been instructed to call him for advice on renovating their systems.
Mr. Gotwald had received only a few calls, and felt that the people should be
advised to contact the Plumbing Inspector, who could look at the systems and
tell them how to do the job to Village code. If there were unusual circum-
stances, then they could call the Engineer. Mr. Gotwald felt there was nothing
to do in the 4th Avenue area to alleviate the situation but to put in a special-
ized system.
Mr. Marier noted that some parties on 4th had septic system problems, but that
they had no seepage into their basements. Mr. Gotwald said he had glanced at
the area last week during the road inspection, and he had seen water within 3
feet of the roadbed. One party had told him that their drainfield was
constantly in water.
Mr. Marier asked the Clerk to see that the P &Z looks at all building permit
applications for single- family dwellings before she issues permits, starting
right away.
Mr. Marier asked the Clerk if she had called Al Fisher concerning the soils
capabilities map. Clerk stated she had called Fisher's office and had been
told that the map was still at the company that makes the composite, and that
it would be some time yet after Fisher gets it before it is done. Mr. Marier
asked the Clerk to call Fisher again and to let him (Marier) know what results
she gets.
Mrs. Swanson said she had been told that some people were having a problem with
the Plumbing Inspector not being available during the day for inspection. Mr.
Marier asked her to please bring these matters to his attention at some time
other than at a meeting; he had heard of no such problem. Mrs. Swanson asked
about the air test and extra inspections. Clerk stated several plumbers had
told her that the State Code said that air tests were not required if the
inspector was not available during working hours to make the test, and that
they did not have to leave their compressors overnight.
Mr. Locher read portions of the Plumbing Ordinance which stated that the Inspec-
tor will make necessary inspections within 48 hours of completion of the job,
and at a reasonable hour. There was no specific number of inspections and the
burden was placed upon the contractor.
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There was discussion on this with Glenn Rehbein, Clyde Rehbein and Don Waalen
all stating that there could be a lot of prQbJems if they had to leave their
houses open overnight for the Inspector's convenience, as well as if they had
to give him a key for the houses, that it was not reasonable for them to pay
their plumbers $15 per hour to wait for the Inspector. besides which the
plumber often moves out of town for the next job. They felt that the Plumbing
Inspector should be bonded to cover any Tossed or damage which might occur
while he has a key to their houses.
Mr. Marier moved to bond our Plumbing Inspector for $10,000. Seconded by Mr.
Cardinal after sone discussion on the amount to set. Carried unanimously.
Mrs. Swanson reported that she had presented her ideas on gasoline accounting
procedure to the Personnel Commission. The had felt there would be a daily
accounting with a weekly tally per sheet, and that the overall tally would be
done on a monthly basis. Mrs. Swanson desired that the Clerk do this overall
tally on a bi- weekly basis. There was some discussion on the procedure, with
the police noting that they were putting down their speedometer readings, but
that the resulting gas mileage figure had little meaning since much of their
time in the car is spent with the motor idling. It was felt that they could
continue putting down speedometer readings of they wished, but it was not
required.
Mr. Marier moved that the Clerk compile the readings from the gasoline usage
sheets on a bi- weekly schedule. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried unanimously.
On Mrs. Swanson's recommendation, Mr. Marier moved that each department keep
complete accountability for their department by keeping account of where their
money is spent, how much and for what. Seconded by Mrs. Swanson. Carried.
Mrs. Swanson reported that the Environmental Committee had discussed snowmobile
laws, what we are going to do about a park system, and whether the areas we
designate as parks will be the same as those which the County are proposing.
Mr. Bohjanen recommended that Mrs. Swanson contact the snowmobile clubs and
submit their ideas on the State snowmobile laws to the Council.
Mrs. Swanson reported that there had been no C &BDC meeting, that she had heard
nothing from its Chairman, Bill Houle. She noted that their plans hinged on
the soils map. Mr. Marier questioned this; she said she had explained this
before.
Mrs. Swanson reported that she and Mr. Marier had attended a meeting og the
Metro Open Space Advisory Board and that she would report on this next time,
when she had completed breaking down her notes.
Mrs. Swanson made several comments to Mr. Cardinal regarding his reports on the
Park Board meetings, pointing out that;
I. She had brought this up before and felt the Park Board should be doing
something.
2. She reiterated that Mr. Cardinal had not reported on the Park Board at
any meeting this year, and noted that on Feb. 28th, he had said that
he had not received minuted from the Feb. Park Board meeting; she
asked him why he needed minutes to report from when she didn't.
3. Stated that this was the only committee that he was responsible for,
that he draws the same salary as she does, but reports nothing and
does nothing.
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4. ' That the Council members had to pull together to reach the goals they had
set, that she-has done more than her share of the work, and that the
members' responsibilities were not equal although the pay was equal.
Mr. Cardinal answered Mrs. Swanson by reiterating what the Park Board had done
at their two meetings, inviting her to attend the next Park Board meeting, and
noted that he wasn't on the Council for the money. Mrs. Swanson said she wasn't
either. Mr. Bohjanen asked them to finish their argument after the meeting.
Mr. Gotwald reproted that he had inspected Village roads with Mr. Jaworski and
Roy Backlin, that Mr. Jaworski had submitted a list of recommendations on the
roads, and that most of the roads were in pretty fair shape except for those
needing seal- coating.
Mr. Bohjanen remarked that he and Mr. Jaworski had planned to meet with Columbus
Twp. next Wednesday, but that Mr. Jaworski might not make it if he were still on
the afternoon shift. Mr. Marier felt that another Council member should attend
besides the mayor; he thought he might be able to make it.
Mr. Cardinal felt taht Mr. Gotwald should get a cost estimate for the seal -coat-
ing which was necessary. Mr. Gotwald noted that we normally seal -coat the roads
every 3 years, but that we didn't do the Lakeview area last year on schedule.
Mr. Gotwald listed other streets needing seal- coating as: Pine Street from Hwy
8 to 4th Avenue, Oak Lane, Linda & Laurene Streets, Aqua Lane, Bald Eagle Blvd.,
and Rolling Hills Drive.
Mr. Gotwald felt that something better should be put on Pine Street, maybe mix
and oil or 2" plant mix.
Mr. Marier recommended getting a total cost estimate on all the roads listed
in Mr. Jaworski's report for 1972.
John McLean asked Mr. Gotwald for a statement on whether there was a correlation
between the number of residents on a road and the service the road received.
Mr. Gotwald said No, that if there is even 1 person living on the end of a
street we have to improve it; also, If we must take a blade 5 miles to get to
1 home, then we try to eliminate the maintenance of that road by surfacing it.
Mr. Cardinal stated that roads which get traveled a lot get preference.
Mrs. Swanson moved to have Mr. Jaworski and Roy Backlin get a cost appraisal on
all the roads in the report before making a decision. Mr. Gotwald said that
on deal- coating and bituminous work hw would get the cost estimate for bids.
Motion seconded by Mr. Marier. Carried unanimously.
Mr. Cardinal said that Mr. Jaworski wanted him to get the Council's opinion on
whether Holly Drive goes all the way through. Mr. Locher said he had checked
on this 3 years ago and found nothing on file at the Court House. Mr. Bohjanen
noted that the easement was on our old record book, and we should decide on
whether it is our road or not. Mr. Locher agreed on the easement in the book,
but noted that there is no record of maintenance for a 6 -year period; he sug-
gested contacting the owners if we want the land. Both Mr. Cardinal and Mr.
Marier stated that we don't want the road. Mr. Cardinal suggested putting up
'dead -end' signs, and noted that Mr. Grygelko had said he would put up a bar-
ricade if it were not a road. Mr. Marier suggested having Mr. Jaworski contact
Mr. Grygelko and report back on his intent, and that we could say there is no
easement and put in turnarounds at the ends of the roads.
Mr. Gotwald stated that NW Bell was requesting permission to install buried
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cable along Birch Street and in the Shenandoah project. He recommended approval
on this, noting that the section on Birch St. had been submitted to the County
for a permit. Mr. Cardinal moved to take the Engineer's recommendation on
N.W. bell's applications for buried cable. Seconded by Mr. Bohjanen. Motion
carried with Mr. Marier abstaining.
Mr. Locher commented that the Workman's Comp. Policy should be put on file, and
that the rates were set by the State. He stressed the fact that we have to
get insurance certificates from any subcontractors such as Columbus.
Mr. Locher had brought the March 13th letter from Glenn Rehbein on his predict-
ed rate of homebuilding in Shenandoah, which stated that they planned to com-
pletely fill Part 1 within the next year and a half, and Part 2 within the
next three years. He anticipated buying additional land and selling about 40
homes per year.
Mr. Locher had checked the loan paper on the truck and noted that we had paid
a $5 fee, which if it was for security, could be released. Clerk will check.
Mr. Locher had heard nothing further concerning the use or sale of Mr. Tagg's
20 acre parcel. He had talked to Roger Barnes who is still interested in putting
in a used car sales lot; however, Mr. Barnes was not here. Mr. Locher noted
that notices would be sent out to surrounding land owners if we take action
on a request for such a lot.
Mr. Locher had received a call from a Mr. Morehouse who was considering
splitting some 100 acres on 79th St.; he had referred him to the ordinances.
Mr. Bohjanen asked Mr. Locher if he had heard anything on the burning ordinance
(from PCA); Mr. Locher said he was still waiting to hear from them.
Mr. Locher had met with a Robert Langmaid who plans to operate a small engine
repair shop in the building back of Cliff Ross' store; he would also have a
Toro franchise. Mr. Langmaid would do all testing inside the building, had no
plans to work on snowmobiles, and wanted to have a Grand Opening on April 15th.
Mr. Locher had informed him that he would have to wait for P &Z and Council
approval for operating such a shop even thought the site is commercial.
Mr. Locher suggested that the letter from Glenn be fileda Mrs. Swanson asked
Glenn how many homes would be build in Part 2 and if these would be built in
the next three years only. Glenn said the 56 homes would be built in that time.
Mrs. Swanson didn't recall anything on Glenn setting aside 10% of the land for
park purposes. Mr. Locher pointed out the area on the plat. Glenn stated that
the 7 acres set aside for parks exceeded 10% because they wanted one central
location for both parts of the plat; it was on the preliminary plan.
Mrs. Swanson asked Mr. Locher if he had done anything further on the question -
aire on legal fees; he said he had not as his bookkeeper had been gone, but he
would have it typed up.
Mrs. Swanson questioned the letter on the Chomonix easements. Mr. Locher said
there would be a deed for the pumphouse site, which would be effective after
the water _system was accepted by the Council. Such approval would come after
the Engineer's okay. Mr. Locher pointed out that when the Village takes over
the pumphouse they will be responsible for the sewer and water systems. Mr.
Gotwald commented that the pumphouse has the 4 walls done, and predicted com-
pletion withing the next 6 weeks.
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Mr. Locher stated that ownership of the pumphouse site depends on delivery of
the deeds to the Village, acceptance by the Council and filing. There had been
some alteration in the deeds due to change in location. Mr. Locher stressed
that when everything is done we will accept the deeds.
Mr. Locher stated that he did not get the deeds back on the Peterson Road or
Pine Street, this being where 1 part is maintained by Columbus and 1 part by us.
Mr. Locher stated that, in regards to Orange and Maple Streets, a spokesman,
Mrs. Paulson, had been appointed by the landowners. He suggested the Council
appoint someone to meet with these people so that they know what they are sign-
ing. He noted that the time delay on extending Eva Street south for a turn-
around was caused by the death of Eva Nordin and the fact that Mr. Nordin had
not contacted him about the sale of one lot.
Mr. Locher thought that Mr. Jaworski had the deeds on the Peterson Road. Mem-
bers felt Mr. Jaworski should so the checking on the deeds. Mr. Locher noted
that when he got the okay he would draft the deeds.
Mr. Bohjanen noted that l item not yet mentioned which was brought up at the
town hall meeting was a County culvert on 20th Avenue on the Sawyer property.
He had a call in to Commissioner - Burman on trying to divert the water. On Mr.
Marier's suggestion, Mr. Bohjanen instructed the Clerk to send a letter to
Commissioner Burman advising him of the drainage problem on 20th Avenue on
the Delbert Sawyer and the Morris Carlson properties.
Mr. Bohjanen noted that we had filled out the Minn. Insurance Div.'s letter
on the Police Force.
Mr. Bohjanen recommended that, in conjunction with Art Hawkins' letter, a com-
mittee consisting of I member each from the Park Board, the P &Z, and the Envir-
onmental Committee be set up to take a survey of the most recent draft of the
ordinance for amnagement of the shoreland and flood plain areas of Lino Lakes,
and prepare a final draft for Council consideration; also, that a study group
be set up to investigate the feasibility of establishing a Great Blue Heron
Sanctuary between Rice Lake and the Chomonix golf course.
Mr. Bohjanen felt that the Environmental Committee should hear the County's
park proposal and asked the Clerk to invite them to the P &Z meeting on the 19th.
Mr. Bohjanen reported that the Anoka County Assn of Municipalities had presented
an ordinance on a Green Belt which would tie in with the wetlands; however,
he had not received a copy yet. At the meeting, there had been discussion of
possible County prosecution of municipal offenses, which would save us money.
Mr.Locher noted that there had been a movement afoot to get the Attorney General's
Office to do this, and noted that the taxes would go up on the County level if
they handle the prosecution.
Mr. Bohjanen reported that he had listened to many reports on the Metro Sewers,
Tony Gnerre had explained why MSB needs $200 million for capitol improvements,
and.gave a breakdown on various costs. Mr. Bohjanen noted that Metro can give
an answer to any questions on money. They had talked in terms of having uniform
sewer charges in the Metro area, but they are not even close now. Mr. Bohjanen
said they are studying the 1973 bills for new billing programs, and they are
deciding what areas in which to do feasibility studies. They are considering
the possibility of some hookups in Centerville to the Forest Lake interceptor.
Mr. Bohjanen noted that we have met with the MSB on our sewer assessment, but
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we have received nothing back on it yet; our next hearing before them is set
for April 19th. Mrs. Swanson stated that they will send written confirmation
of the exact time of the hearing, and that this is their regular semi - monthly
meeting.
Mr. Marier moved to table the matter of nominating a candidate for the Rice
Creek Watershed Advisory Board until we find out the outcome on the County meeting.
Seconded by Mrs. Swanson. Carried with Mr. Cardinal abstaining. Mrs. Swanson
said she would like to nominate Mr. Cardinal for the Advisory Board. Mr. Car-
dinal noted she would have to get him off the Board of Managers first. Mrs.
Swanson thought she just might do that.
Concerning the MSB's Waste Regulations, Mr. Marier felt that we have 5 items
such as parks and the comprehensive plan to take care of first, and that we
should get our house in order and then go into Metro matters. On Mr. Bohjanen's
suggestion, Mr. Marier moved to table action on the MSe Waste Regulations for
the time being and to put it on the agenda in 60 days. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal.
Carried unanimously.
Mr. Bohjanen commented on the sample ordinances on depositing snow on streets
which Mr. Locher had obtained, and wondered if we couldn't add in something on
the parking of cars or snowbirds, and hold on adopting this for a while. Mr.
Marier felt that we should be careful on that, that the roads must be open,
and we must state when we will be plowing and on what day. Mr. Cardinal said
the cars must be off the streets so that we can plow them. Mrs. Swanson didn't
feel this should'be much of a problem out here, that we should make the best of
the situation in residential areas, but, if necessary, do something about the
problem on thoroughfares.
Mr. Marier moved to table action on drafting an ordinance on depositing snow
and other items on streets, etc., until the first Council meeting in August.
Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried unanimously.
Mr. Bohjanen reported that, he had studied the purchase of the Centerville car,
that we are using it right along, and that now it needs tires all around; we
had had the front end lined up. He noted the original figure was $1000, but he
had found the blue book value to be $850. There was some discussion with Mr.
Bohjanen giving the mileage on the car at 73,000 miles, and Mr. Marier stating
that the only use for the extra equipment on the car was for a police car.
Mr. Cardinal moved to instruct the Clerk to write to Centerville offering them
$800 for the police car as a counter - proposal, and noting that if this figure
was not satisfactory they could take the car back. Seconded by Mrs. Swanson.
Carried unanimously.
Mr. Cape, Civil Defense Director, was asked to give a report on CD activities
for the first quarter of the year. Mr. Cape reported as follows;
1. 182 man hours of free labor given by members for the following activities.
2. Removing superstructure and paper from the float and winterizing it.
3. Building up the light trailer that will have a 2500 watt generator and 2
or more flood lights on it for use in the Village for any activities upon
approval of the Mayor. The work was on building sectional take -down
stands for the flood lights, wiring, painting, ventilation for the motor.
Some of the hardware was furnished by the members, cutting cost to Village
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4. Potting new heavy duty clutch in Civil Defense truck, installing radio
equipment, also blankets, stretcher, first aid kit.
5. Meetings for review of first aid, training films, planning for float.
6. Updating Village disaster plan to comply with State and Federal require -
ments for cintinual certification of Civil Defense Director.
7. Updated forms for 5th Corps area to comply as a certified Civil Defense
Director.
8. Bought out of funds raised by Civil Defense and Auxiliary a 16 MM sound
projector, cost $250.00.
9. Delivered Village phone directories to all the people, also the town hall
meeting notices and Civil. Defense books that contain information for use
by the people in times of emergency in cooperation with the Fire
Chief, Jim Livingston.
Mr. Marier asked Mr. Cape for a cost estimate on the CD's spending so far this
year. Mr. Cape thought about $150 or less, not including uniforms, which
was mostly on putting the equipment together.
Mr. Bohjanen mentioned that this is the Only CD organization in the County that
has an Auxiliary unit, that it is recognized as being able to function of nec-
essary, and that they need such activities to keep them together. Mr. Cape
noted that ti was the women's group that held them together and pulled them
through at times, they had their upsand downs, but have done a great deal of
work. Mr. Cape said he didn't know how some members, both husbandsand wives
can put in so much time on CD activities.
Mr. Cardinal asked Mr. Cape if he had delivered the Information Guides to all
in the Village; Mr. Cape said they had completed their delivery but hadn't got-
ten to everyone, noting that it was a bad time to do this over Easter weekend.
The papers had been put under the mailbox flags; some may have blown away. Mr.
Cardinal asked of he had any trouble getting through the roads - Mr. Cape had
not. The Clerk asked that the extra Guides be returned to the office.
Mr. Dan Helmer of the Northwest Saddle Club came forward to report on the club's
meeting and resultant letter. He had talked with Ken Rehbein and Oscar Ramberg
and been advised to ask the P &Z about the possibility of any future roads coming
through their property which might affect the location of the house.
Mr. Helmer asked the Council to recognize that the trailer is there to protect
the $70,000 investment in the property, and that there has been no vandalism
or littering since it was put there. Mr. Helmer said they intend to comply
with our regulations, but do not intend to abandon the protection if they can't
comply quickly enough; the property was not protected`before the trailer came.
Heasked when they could meet with the P &Z and was advised that their agenda
is full for the April meeting.
Mr. Marier discussed the road possibility with Mr Heimer and asked him if he
felt they won't move the trailer. Mr. Helmer said No, but that if we told him
to move it tonight he would go back and tell the Board that; but he is only 1
of 7 members, and they would probably say they would' move the trailer as soon
as they can. Mr. Helmer asked what the fine was for not moving it as this
might determine how soon they would move it.
There was discussion with Mrs. Swanson asking how long the trailer had been
there; Mr. Helmer said since last July 1st. Mr. Marier asked if it was their
intent to build the house in July. Mr. Heimer said they planned to have it
completed by July, that it would from 30 to 60 days to build it, so they
had a little time to plan. He noted, that if we raise the minimum requirements,
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they might consider adding onto the arena instead, or they could build a 12'
wall and hire a guard.
Mr. Marier asked if the club would put in writing that they will meet our crite-
ria by: 1. building a structure and removing the trailer by July 1st, and 2,
that they come before the P &Z on May 17th. Mr. Haimer said that there might
be a wait for the building plans, but that they intend to do something on a
permanent basis and they will remove the trailer by July 1st; he will get
the Club secretary to write a letter stating same.
Mr. Marier moved to authorize the Northwest Saddle Club to keep the trailer on
the premises until the First of July and that a permanent structure will be
built by that date, such to be put in a letter of intent from the Club. Sec-
onded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried unanimously.
Mr. Bohjanen reported that the Fire Marshall had a conflict with the dates of
the Fire Marshall School,'and that he preferred to wait for the fall session.
Mr. Bohjanen stated that two of the tax - forfeit lots located in the Lakeview
area are buildable lots and not low; he saw no need for additional Village
property in that area.
Mr. Marier moved to let the two lots in the Lakeview area go up for tax sale.
Seconded by Mrs. Swanson, Carried unanimously.
There was discussion on the third parcel, a long narrow strip along Cedar St.
on the East County Line. Mrs. Swanson moved that we hold thi's 2 -acre parcel
on Cedar St. for purchase by the Village. Seconded by Mr. Marier. Carried
unanimously. The Clerk will return the forms to Mr. Burman as he requested.
Mr. Bohjanen noted that Deputy Clerk, Elsie Linnell, had resigned. Mr. Cardinal
moved to accept the resignation of Elsie Linnell as Deputy Clerk and to send
her a letter of thanks for her services. Seconded by Mrs. Swanson. Carried.
Mr. Bohjanen stated that one of the Assistant Constables, Marcel Rivard, had
resigned, and asked Mr. Myhre how soon the resignation took effect. Mr. Myhre
said if was for the First of May, but that Mr. Rivard might stay longer if we
didn't get a replacement. There was some discussion on the propriety of taking
applications for police positions when there are no openings, and discussion
on the proper title for these officers, which was decided to be Assistant
Police Officer.
Mr. Cardinal moved to put notices in the papers that we will take applications
for an Assistant Police Officer. Seconded by Mr. Marier. Carried unanimously.
Mrs. Swanson asked Mr. Locher if we are home -rule government; he said we are
not, but that we adopted Optional Plan A type government.
Mr. Bohjanen commented on changing the form of the monthly financial reports by
the Clerk. Mr. Marier presented a copy of the type report used by North St.
Paul, stating that he wished the Clerk to use this form. Mrs. Swanson moved
to adopt this form of monthly reporting of revenues and expenditures. Seconded
by Mr. Cardinal. Carried unanimously.
Mrs. Swanson asked the Council how they felt about the police cars not coming
back to the Hall when the officers are through with them, and noted the following:
1. What does an officer so with the car after he uses it for 2 or 3 hours?
2. She seldoms saw the car on duty so how do we know they are working?
3. The complaint had been made by an officer that they were putting too
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many hours, but how can we know the hours when you don't see the
car.
4. There should be a schedule of the hours that the men are in the car.
5. Each department is being checked for accountability including the police.
6. Noted only 1 police car was on duty on Sundays.
Mr. Myhre answered these questions by stating the following:
1. The men are still on call after they check out with the Sheriff in the
evening.
2. It takes 4 minutes to get from his house to the Hall - a person could
die in that time it would take to get the car from the Hall.
3. The schedule they have sets the days the men are on duty, but not the
hours - the hours depend on what events happen to some extent. A man
on call could be out at'any hour of the night.
4. Advised her to call 421-1660 to find out where the car was at a given time.
5. Offered to let the Council check the police logs so they could follow
the patrol routes for any evening.
6. Invited members to ride along in the squad cars if they wished.
7. Noted that most of their work is done at night in the dark, so that
people can't see them.
8. There isn't one man on the force who isn't working more hours that
he should be.
9. There is only 1 car on duty except on Fridays and Saturdays because
to use 2 cars spreads the men too thin so that they have to ride alone.
He gave several instances when he had been attacked when riding alone.
Therewas further discussion on the matter, with Mr. Glenn Rehbein noting that
the police reach the Outpost before him after a burglar, alarm is sounded, and
that he had been at Mrs. Swanson's house following the recent break -in; the
police were there in 4 minutes after the call. He felt she was cutting the
police down; Mrs. Swanson denied this.
Mr. Bohjanen felt that we don't want to tie the cars to the Hall with part -
time officers, and said they would sit down to discuss a tighter schedule. Mr.
Marier asked for a copy of the police schedule, and discussed what roads and
businesses were covered with Mr. Myhre. There was discussion on the availabil-
ity of County cars and future policing plans for the parks.
The bills were audited with Mrs. Swanson noting that several bills had no
requi- sition slips; the Clerk noted the items were purchased prior to making
the slips.
Mr. Marier questioned the bill for Partial extimate #5 from Marvin Rehbein,
asking Mr. Gotwald when the work would be completed, how much more there would
be to pay on the contract, and if Rehbein was coming close to the bid price.
Mr. Gotwald answered that next month's bill would probably be the final one on
the work, that the lift station was in the ground, that it would cost about
$5000 = $6000 to complete the job if there were no additions. Mr. Gotwaid
stated that the bid was for $298,000, and the cost would run about $308 -
$309,000, with part of the increase due to change orders and part due to putting
in an extra line to accomodate service in Outlot A. Mr. Marier stated that
he wanted to look at an audit of the Rehbein bill and recommended holding
Check #4453 until we get the audit.
Mr. Marier also questioned Check #4446 written to Rivard Electric, wondering
what this was for and if there had been bids taken. Mr. Cardinal answered
that the work was for new service around the rinks in Sunrise Park; there had
been no bids but the work was authorized last year. Mr. Marier wished this
check to be held until we find out exactly what it was for. Mrs. Swanson
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and Mr. Marier discussed the bills from Springsted and Loosen Plumbing & Heating.
Mr. Marier moved to hod bills #4446 and #4453 for audit, to hold bills #4447
through #4452 for requisition slips and purchase orders, and to pay bills
#4427 through #4445 and #4454. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. John McLean asked
if we would lose a prompt - payment discount by holding these checks; Council
didn't feel we would. Mr. Marier and Mr. Gotwald discussed what the audit on
#4446 would entail.
Vote on the motion was unanimously in favor.
Mr. Cardinal moved to adjourn at 11:50 P.M. Seconded by Mrs.
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May 1, 1972
A special meeting of the Lino Lakes Village Council was called to order by
Mr. Bohjanen at 7:55 P.M., May 1, 1972. All members were present.
The purpose th this meeting was to discuss whether or not to purchase the
Centerville police car. Centerville Council advised that they wanted action
taken on this before May 3rd. Mr. Cardinal moved to waive the traditional five
day notice. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried unanimously.
Police Chief Myhre advised the Council that the Ford is in much better shape
than the other car. The motor was overhauled. 12,000 miles have been put on
it since October and so the tires are all run off. Nothing was spent on the car
by us except for general maintenance during this time. He also said the 1970
Plymouth is working at present, but is burning approximately two quarts of oil
every 1,000 - 1,500 miles. There is a howl in the rear end. The mechanics are
watching it and advising what should be done as problems develop. Before we
got the Ford the other car was used as a fire marshall;s car, and we were hard
pressed then.
Originally the Centerville Council asked $1,000 for the car. We sent a letter
and offered them $800.00. In their letter of April 29, 1972, they refused,saying
they would take no less than $1,000. We then sent them a letter saying we would
reconsider.
Mr. Myhre said he inquired values of the Centennial Bank. They said retail value
would be $1,425; wholesale value, $1,000; and loan value $925.00. Subtracting
$150.00 fpr having more than 50,000 on the car gives the following figures:
Retail- $1275, Wholesale -$850, Loan -$775. Mr. Jaworski said that the previous
Mayor had entered into the $1,000 agreement with the Centerville Council at a
special meeting. Mr. Jaworski was present at that meeting. Mr. Marier said,
"Do you realize you are paying more than market value ?"
Mr. Cardinal moved to purchase the Ford from Centerville for $1,000. Seconded by
Mr. Jaworski. Roll call vote was as follows: Mr. Jaworski, Aye; Mrs. Swanson,
abstain; Mr. Marier, abstain for lack of record -the $1,000 being heresay; Mr.
Cardinal, Aye; Mr. Bohjanen, Aye. Motion carried.
Mr. Marier moved to adjourn at 8:13 P.M. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried.
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