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HomeMy WebLinkAbout04/24/1972 Council Minutes24 5/8/72 Mr. Marier moved to accept the application of Dwayne Cardinal, dba D -C General Builders, for a sewer installation license. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried. Mr. Cardinal noted that Mrs. Leibel had asked about the Watershed Board meeting with Centerville; he said that they were not scheduled to meet together, but that the counci is welcome to come to the Board meetings which are held on the first and third Wednesdays of each month. The bills were audited. Mr. Gotwald answered questions from Mr. Marier on the bill from Keys Well Drilling on the Vertical turbine pump, noting that the total bid was $3000, and that the pump was not complete in place, although listed as such on the bills, since the bills are written as items are listed in the bids. Mrs. Swanson asked the Clerk how many purchase orders she had used; Clerk said about 45. Mrs. Swanson asked Mr. Jaworski what was left on the list of equipment to be purchased and was told the rear -end grease gun at $90; he would provide a break- down by next time. Mrs. Swanson noted that there was no mention of checks #4373 -4375 on either this list of bills or the last list and wanted them Fisted on the sheet for next time. Mr. Jaworski moved to approve payment of bills #4378 -4393. Seconded by Mrs. Swanson. Carried. It was decided that the bill from Mr. Gotwald for inspection in March would be held until next time. Clerk explained that the original bill had not arrived, and the duplicate was just received. Mr. Cardinal moved to adjourn at 12:15 A.M. Seconded by Mr. Marier. Aye. Minutes approved at the meeting of May 22, 1972 JO' ,._� .. #1L „� perk- Treasurer April 24, 1972 The regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Village Council held on April 24, 1972, was called to order at 8 P.M. by Mayor Bohjanen with all members present, as well Mr. Locher, Attorney, and Mrs. Emerton, Clerk- Treasurer. There was some discussion with Mrs. Swanson asking if the members knew what the "specialized system" was that Mr. Gotwald had felt was needed in the 4th Avenue area. Mr. Marier thought this referred to a large tank to serve tjat area/ Mrs. Swanson felt there was an error on Page 13, paragraph 5 (April 10th) in the title of policemen - she thought we had designated them as "peace officers" rather than "police officers ", and moved that their title be change to "assistant peace officers ". There was considerable discussion on this with Mr. Lochei checking State statutes and noting that the laws do not mention "assistant constables, but that he didn't feel it would make any difference if they were called "police" or "peace" officers. Mr. Locher listed the duties of the various officers; Mr. Marier seconded the motion. Vote: Aye -- Swanson; No-- Cardinal, Jaworski, Marier and Bohjanen. Motion failed. Mr. Bohjanen noted that the men would be called Police Officers in the future. Mrs. Gould asked Mr. Locher to define the various titles. Mr. Locher stated that constables serve papers, usually serve in town- ships, have no real powers and can only receive a limited salary. He saw no difference in peace and police officers. The Clerk reported the following: I. Receipt of affidavits of publication of the hearing on amending Ord. 56. 4/24/72 247 2. Receipt of affidavits of publication on Ord. 6U, Forrest Tagg rezoning. 3. Letter from Northwest Saddle Club. 4. Letter from Auto - Owners Insurance stating that the Plumbing Inspector is covered under the V illage's $10,000 blanket position bond. 5. The soils map had arrived at Al Fisher's office on April 13th; Mr. Fisher is available for the next Council meeting and P &Z meeting at 9 P.M. Mr. Marier felt it was unnecessary for Mr. Fisher to attend the P &Z. 6. Checked on the $5 filing fee for the truck loan, and was told that the Bank deducted this amount from their interest earnings - the Village did not pay the $5. 7. Deputy Clerk had complied the gasoline purchased from Oskey Bros. Petroleum (later North Star Oil Corp.); Clerk requested authorization to get the federal gas refund. Mr. Cardinal moved to authorize the Clerk to proceed with the gasoline tax refund. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried unanimously. Mrs. Swanson asked if the new accounting system on gas would eliminate this tax; Clerk stated that the company automatically deducts the Federal tax. Clerk reported receipt of $160 in municipal court fines for March. Mr. Cardinal reported on the Park Board meeting held on April 19th following the County park presentation at the P &Z meeting. They had discussed and approved allowing the Peach Land League to use Sunrise Park on Tuesday and Thursday nights during the ball season. Mr. Cardinal moved to allow them to use the parks on the designated days. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Mr. Marier thought we had previously discussed letting the kids use the parks instead of the leagues, and asked if these was availability for the kids to play both hard and soft ball at the same time as the Leagues play. He was told that the Leagues only use one of the diamonds at each session, but that the kids couldn't play both kinds of ball after 6 P.M. on those days. Vote on the motion showed all members voting in favor. Mr. Cardinal stated that the Park Board had discussed charging outside teams for playing on our diamonds in the amount of $100 per season plus $50 towards cleanup fees. This $50 or any portion of it not used to pay our employees for cleaning up after the games would be refunded at the end of the season. Mr. Bohjanen asked for a definition of "outside leagues." Mr. Cardinal stated that the members of the Peach Land League are from our Village, but the Skyline League is from Lexington, and that if we went to Lexington we would have to pay. Mr. Cardinal moved to charge $100 for outside leagues to play on our ball diamonds per season along with a $50 deposit towards cleaning up after the games if necessary. Seconded by Mrs. Swanson. Carried unanimously. Mrs. Swanson asked if we would charge our own people; Mr. Cardinal said No. Mr. Cardinal moved to let the Babe Ruth Little League players use Lino Park on Monday nights. Seconded by Mr. Marier. Carried unanimously. Mr. Cardinal reported that they are getting bids to add 2 ball diamonds at Sunrise Park and one here at the Hall, as well as some grading to be done at the skating rink, some crushed rock, and levelling off the borrow pit at the Hall. He reported that Art Johnson is looking into the cost of remodeling the warming house at Sunrise Park. Mr. Cardinal stated that he had contacted the Forest Lake Schools Superintendent but had not gotten word back in conjunction with adding recreational facilities at Lino School. Mr. Marier asked Mr. Cardinal if he had made any headway on the Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Cardinal said the Park Board had looked at the' County's park plan and had some questions on it, but no comments; they had done nothing on the comprehensive plan. Mr. Bohjanen 4/24/72 asked Mr. Cardinal to recommend to the Park Board that they make some headway towards the Comprehensive Plan. The hearing for the fina l plat of Chomonix South, First and Second Additions, was called to order at 8:30 P.M. Mr. Marier asked members to read over the P &Z account of their hearing before listening to the representative from Chomonix. Bill Meyer, representing Jandric, asked for approval of the record plat which is the legal survey document. He noted they had divided the plat in two parts to facilitate ease in platting, and that a portion of this reamins an outlot. Mr. Meyer noted that a few of the Tots had been widened out to facilitate double garages. Mrs. Swanson asked why we hadn't received copies of the plat sooner and was informed that copies had arrived in adequate time for the P &Z hearing. Mr. Marier reiterated the comments made by the Planner in regard to the 50' setback from Birch St. and the landscaping responsibilities. Mr. Meyer said that there was actually a 51' setback since there was 41' from the roadway to the platted lot line and 10' between the lot line and the building. Mr. Bohjanen asked if Outlot A had been revised. Mr. Meyer said it had not, except for very minot line differences which occured when the actual lines were computed since the original preliminary drawings. Mr. Marier noted the comments from the P &Z minutes on this. Mr. Locher checked the distances between the two maps, stating that they were close; one was 3' different. Mr. Meyer explained how the differences cam about again. There was discussion on what these lines mean particularly on lakeshore property. Mrs. Swanson wondered if we don't think this is something to keep in mind when approving things on shorelines. Mr. Marier said using the meander lines was usually done. Mr. Locher thought Mr. Meyer might explain why the plat was done in two parts. Mr. Meyer noted that when they check the field footings, the property line has to lie on the footing line; this check is done before the final platting, but the plat has to be filed before they deliver the first unit. Mr. Locher noted that 1 part of the plat had to go on a separate sheet to accomodate the County using a different map scale. There was discussion on the 50' setback and on the setback of the building in Block 12 closest to Birch St. as Unit 4 of that Block has a 30' setback. Mr. Locher read from Section 4.06 of Ord. 56 which states that a setback of 40' is required from a thoroughfare. Mr. Locher noted that Suburban had allowed an extra 17' besides the existing width of Birch St. on their plat, and that the County has not acquired the additional 17'. This was platted as such in anticipation of the County acquiring the additional footage. Mr. Locher noted that Lino Lakes doesn't have a thoroughfare map showing this, but basically County roads have been felt to be thoroughfares. He stated that the Planner did make allowances for screening. Members thought that this particular setback might become a future problem. Mr. Meyer asked that the Council approve the final plat for the First Addition, and that the Second Addition be tabled until a change is made that would be in conformance with the code. Mr. Marier moved to approve the final plat of the First Addition on Chomonix South and that the Second Addition be held for a setback change to be made on Unit 4 in the part of Block 12 facing Birch Street. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried unanimously. The final plat hearing for the Second Addition was put on the agenda before the P &Z on May 17th and before the Council on May 22nd, both hearings at 9 P.M. Mr. Jaworski asked the Clerk to make copies of Mr. Gotwald's cost estimates for members, noting that he would like to go over these with George first as well as get some cost estimates on gravel to use the rest of the year. 4/24/72 249 Mr. Jaworski had noticed there was a discussion on Orange and Maple Streets at the last meeting, and asked Mr. Locher if there had been any further contact on this. Mr. Locher said that a Mrs. Paulson was to contact the residents, but he had heard nothing from her. Mr. Jaworski offered to contact the residents if it was okay with the Council so that maybe we can settle the question of making Orange and Maple Village roads, get the necessary work done, and put the cross street in. Mr. Jaworski felt he would have Mr. Gotwald give us a new estimate on Peltier Drive since he didn't know if the old figure would hold up; he would like to give Peltier priority and get it done. Mr. Marier asked Mr. Jaworski if he had done anything on Holly Drive; Mr. Jaworski had not. Mr. Marier said he had contacted the people on Holly yesterday, and reported that one of the problems brought to his attention was being wakened in the middle of the night to help someone who had gotten stuck. He asked that the Council bring Holly Drive to a head, and noted that Mr. Grygelko had changed his mind since the town hall meeting and would now like to see the road go through. Mr. Grygelko had also said that the Village had put in 2 culverts in the last 2 years and put gravel on the road. Mr. Jaworski said the Village didn't put any culverts on Holly, and noted that the existing road doesn't follow the easement. After more discussion, Mr. Marier suggested that Mr. Jaworski get in touch with the people as to where to go on this and to get cost estimates to satisfy the situation. Mr. Jaworski asked if this meant he and Roy should meet with them. Mr. Marier said Yes, and asked him to have a report ready for the next meeting. Mr. Jaworski noted he should come up with a list of roads to up -grade and thus eliminate from maintenance. He asked if we had sent a letter to Hugo on maintaining part of 24th Avenue. The Clerk didn't recall sending the letter; he suggested it be sent. Mr. Bohjanen reported that he, Mr. Marier and Mrs. Swanson had met with the Columbus Town Board and the road supervisors from both municipalities on Pine St. the previous Saturday. They had discussed putting on gravel, grading it and fixing one culvert. They had felt that a border street should be maintained on a 50 -50 basis. Columbus was in accord to sign an agreement on this, and that the total maintenance costs on Pine Street would be kept separate. Mr. Marier moved that we send a letter to Columbus Township stating that Lino Lakes is agreeable that the cost of total maintenance on Pine Street be equally divided on a 50 -50 basis by Lino Lakes and Columbus, and that all members of the Council sign the letter. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried unanimously. Mrs. Swanson asked Mr. Bohjanen if the County wasn't going to take over Pine Street. Mr. Bohjanen said No, that he had talked to Commissioner Burman who said that they might take over Pine from Old 8 to 4th Avenue and then down 4th, but they won't take over a dead -end road. Mrs. Swanson asked if we were going to include in the Columbus letter what work will be done on Pine St. Mr. Bohjanen said No, that that will be figured out by the supervisors. Mr. Jaworski stated that Columbus still wants $17 per hour for the grader. He asked Mr. Locher if it was Lino Lakes' responsibility, if we think the cost increase is too high, to take the matter to the pay board. Mr. Locher asked how much the raise was, and was told $2 per hour. After more discussion, Mr. Marier moved, on Mr. Jaworski's suggestion, to go with the $17 per hour charge for grader work from Columbus Township. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried unanimously. Mr. Marier noted that a guest from Forest Lake was in attendance. Gordy Anderson stated that he had been asked by Forest Lake Mayor Jim Gessell to appear, and to ask Lino Lakes to volunteer a representative to meet with other local representatives as well as those from District 831 School Board on the possibility of hiring a recreation 4/24/72 director for the school. There is $5000 in State money available for this purpose, but the application for it must be made by May Ist. Mr. Anderson asked that we provide figures on what we are spending on recreation in the 831 area, and noted that hiring a director could save every one some money. They will meet sometime later this week. Mr. Cardinal thought he could make it on Thursday or Friday; Mr. Bohjanen wished to attend also. Mr. Cardinal noted that we don't have a breakdown on what is spent in each School District Area, but we can give a total figure on the cost of operating the parks. Mr. Marier reported on the P &Z meeting held on April 19th. Mr. Burman and Mr. Torkildson had talked on the legalities of County ditches, noting that they had legal respon- sibility for the ditches, but would not take responsibility for maintaining them. Mr. Torkildson presented the County's park proposal for some 2400 acres and the various facilities they may provide. Mr. Marier noted that this was only a proposal and that there was a lot of work and research to be done before we take the proposal into consideration. Mr. Bohjanen suggested having an open meeting on the park proposal. Mrs. Swanson thought it should be a joint environmental meeting to discuss ecology, etc. Mr. Marier suggested that the working committees get their input, draw up a proposal, meet together, and then bring the feedback to the Council; then we can have an open meeting. Mrs. Swanson thought each committee should report on this, that all connected with this should work together to determine the Villages intent on what the future will be concerning the parks. Mr. Marier reported that Mrs. Mary Glischinsky had requested the P &Z to approve a trailer sales lot at 6333 Hodgson Road. P &Z recommended that the Glischinskys need to submit a proposal in accordance with the zoning code; they would probably need a special use permit. Mr. Marier reported that Ken Rehbein had requested a variance to Ordinance 21A. The letter he submitted was not clear to the members as to where he was locating the building or if he were going to build another building. The Clerk was asked to get the restrictions from Mr. Locher. Mr. Blackbird noted that the variance request was brought in with the building request, but had gotten lost in the proceedings. He noted that they want to leave the two corner acres open for sale, they thought the letter would be a reminder of the request. Mr. Marier suggested that when they come for the variance they have some plans as to what they will do with that parcel, as the P &Z would probably want this. Mr. Marier reported that Alex Lichtscheidl had appeared on the question of splitting a parcel of land without a variance. P &Z had found that there was no split as the sale had fallen through. Mr. Marier thought officials might be better informed when reporting splits in the future. Mr. Marier reported that the Arlo Morehouses had requested that they be allowed to extend 79th Street seom 4 -500 feet further West so that they can divide their 40 acres into 10 -acre parcels to sell. Also, the person owning the land North of their was interested in selling his also. The Morehouses wondered what kind of road they would have to put in and were advised that the code specifies blacktop. Mr. Marier asked for the Council's views. There was considerable discussion on the subject of building roads and on the particulars of 79th St. Mr. Marier noted that the Morehouse land is relatively high with a few low dips, and that the Morehouses are willing to put in the road, but the question is if it should be blacktopped. 1 1 4/24/72 251 Mr. Jaworski noted that they (Morehouses) could put money in escrow for blacktopping, and that it is not reasonable to put in a 20 -year street and then put in utilities. Mr. Cardinal felt we should do like we did with Cecil LaMotte; Mr. Marier agreed that if we ask one developer to do the blacktopping, we should ask them all to. Mr. Bohjanen felt it should be blacktopped. Mr. Locher suggested putting an outside limit on the time in which the work is to be finished. Mr. Blackbird stated that it doesn't make sense to retard development by hindering some of this property from access, that we should encourage building more houses for tax purposes, that we would have many more houses if we didn't require blacktopped streets, which would give additional taxes to cover the maintenance of the gravel streets. Mr. Cardinal noted that the developer who put in blacktopped streets is selling his land off right and left, that he adds the cost of the streets to the price of the lots. Mr. Jaworski didn't feel the added taxes from new houses would pay for maintenance of the streets. Mr. Cardinal felt that if this road goes in we should have it go straight West. Mary Myhre asked if the extension of. 79th would connect up with the roadway (private) running North and South; Mr. Marier thought there could be a turn - around if it didn't. Mr. Jaworski said there was a question of access from a private driveway if they connected (that is, a private driveway would be used as a public roadway, and we might be required to take it over later). Following more discussion, Mr. Cardinal moved that we abide by the ordinance on this and require that blacktop be put in. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried. Mr. Marier reported that the P &Z had discussed certification of our sign code, Ordinance No. 51, as requested by the Council. He asked if a copy of the ordinance was to be submitted to the State. Mr. Locher stated that a copy of the Council's resolution and the P &Z's resolution must be submitted. Mr. Marier moved that we authorize the Attorney to handle certification of our sign code. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried unanimously. Mr. Marier reported that Glenn Rehbein had asked for a variance to use overhead wiring in the Shenandoah plat since no sewer would be in there this summer, he cannot put in any utilities underground, and blacktopping the streets would be unfeasible. Mr. Rehbein had stated he would like to go to septic tanks, the P &Z recommended that percolation tests be taken, and if possible, that he (Glenn) skip every other lot. Glen Rehbein commented as follows: 1. He had talked to his financing company and was told that they wouldn't give him financing on septic systems. 2. He wished to petition to go ahead and put sewer lines in there and pump the sewage if necessary. 3. He had gone ahead with the whole project based on the Oct. 20, 1971, letter from the Metro Sewer Board which stated that they would put in and interceptor or trunk line down Birch Street. 4. He feels that Jandric will demand a sewer line also. 5. Asked why the Council can't act on the basis of the MSB letter. 6. Doesn't want overhead lines, but they would be temporary. 7. Wants to put the sewer lines in first and follow them with buried cable. 8. All can see that the County's park proposal is nothing but a Metro Park, and that the Village should work for the sewer line before the area is taken over by the parks. 9. He wished to have the Council refund the money held in escrow towards the engineering costs as he needs that $23,000 for working capital. 4/24/72 Mr. Marier remarked that the letter which Glenn had received from Lonnie Dye of the Metro Sewer Board had stated that there would be a complete engineering report on the interceptor that would consider all alternates to the interceptor as well, that we cannot approve Glenn's sewer plans at this time, but must wait for the results of that engineering study, that we have no control on this matter, that we don't know when the study will be done. There was some discussion concerning the MSB's October 20th letter, which was read. Mr. Bohjanen noted that we would have to wait for the engineering study, and that this is the first time MSB has admitted they are making such a study. Mr. Marier noted that MSB has their problems, namely, that they were cut back in their Federal grants by some $II million, which they can't control, so they have to cancel out some of their projects. Marier said that MSB hasn't cancelled out the Lino Lakes project, but they have to make some engineering studies to determine which projects to cancel. Clyde Rehbein thought it would help them if the Village went on record supporting Glenn and himself; Mr. Marier felt it may not be feasible to do this at this time if the interceptor is not feasible. Mrs. Swanson stated that she had attended the April 19th Metro Sewer Board meeting, and reported the following items: 1. A letter of apprecation from Lino Lakes was read. 2. Three treatment plants had been phased out since they failed to meet standards. 3. Out of 103 communities, 92 had paid their allocations in part or in total, II still had some problems, 6 had resolved their problems, including Lino Lakes, Oneka & New Brighton, Blaine had paid 60% of their bill, and expected to pay 100 %, Circle Pines had paid 50% with no stand taken on whether they will pay the remainder. 4. No. 3 above represents a 32% loss of revenues in all or $175,000 lost, and $150,000 to be collected. 5. Fourechange orders resulted in several hundred thousand dollars. 6. Region 1 and 2 cost allocation billings are incorrect. 7. Metro Council and MSB do not see eye to eye on the system or spending, and Metro Council expects to come up with a new system of 1972 cost allocations, presently favoring a restricted policy such as Method #1 proposed in their 1971 budget. 8. Apple Valley Interceptor is very expensive and has reached an over load 30% of capacity as flowage was under - estimated. She felt we should wait until the Comprehensive Plan is finished, the engineering study is finished, and we hear from the Metro Council before acting on Glenn's sewer proposal. Glenn said he is asking that he put in the sewer system at no cost to the Village, that he should have equal rights with Handric, and that if Jandric pays for pumping sewage, he is willing to do the same. 1 1 Fred Memmer, St. Paul attorney representing Glenn and Clyde Rehbein, stated that he also represents Lincoln Federal which was going to finance the project which the Rehbein boys are building in this area. He noted the following: 1. Feels that the Metro Council and MSB are shortchanging this area. 2. Doesn't want to wait for them to sit and study the matter. 3. It isn't wise on the Council's part not to give the Rehbein boys its cooperation. 4. He is Chairman of the local Bar Ass'n; Mr. Locher is Vice- Chairman. 5. Mr. Bollard, Chief Procurement Attorney for the U.S. Govt. will be in this area on June 23rd to talk on what can be done with a number of problems in securing Federal funds for sewer projects. 6. Feels the people of the Metro Council are preoccupies with building up their own power and are ignoring us. 7. A line serving 2 communities is considered a Metro sewer; if it serves a single community that community can do the line on its own, and should be able to get funds to do so. 4/24/72 8. If we can tie up with an existing line at the border of the Village, we should hook up .and see if we can get the money. 9. He would like to work with us and Mr. Locher on this. 10. If we can get something going by June 23rd, Mr. Bollard would like to be here, as there is $9 billion floating around for sewers which is unclaimed. '253 Mr. Bohjanen asked why the Federal Govt. turned down funds for the Metro Sewer Board if the funds are available. Mr. Memmer said that the Federal Govt. has many arms, and that there are many lawsuits in various courts now against the Federal Govt. for not complying with Federal laws in distributing such monies. Mr. Memmer said Lino Lakes should not close its minds on this, that he has spent his life on municipal laws, and knows about local officials putting their finger on people and pushing them into the ground. Mr. Bohjanen countered that we have the whole community to look at. Mr. Memmer commented on other places which did their sewers piecemeal as well as those which did it right. Mr. Bohjanen noted that this was going back before the existence of Metro government, and that the Council is trying to retain open minds on this. Mr. Marier noted that the Council has sat at the Metro meetings, and they tell us they will make an engineering study - do we let them make it or tell them not to. Mr. Memmer said we should probe other angles, Metro will not fund septic systems which foul up the community. Mr. Marier said that Metro won't talk to us until the study is made, and that it would make a 12.5% increase in taxes for everyone in the Village to put in the interceptor. Glenn asked again if he could get his money back that is in escrow. Mr. Locher stated this was okay if Glenn can't go ahead with the sewer and water systems, and abides by State regulations on his septic systems. Mr. Cardinal moved to return the money to Glenn Rehbein which was being held in escrow. There was considerable discussion on what Glenn's future plans would be for the Shenandoah project. Mr. Locher said that Glenn would have to proceed with individual septic units, that the lots can be built up, that we can only give building permits on streets which have been accepted by the Village, that the Council has done all they could to see that Glenn Rehbein was helped, and we just didn't know MSB was going to get $11 million less, that possibly Glenn might get permission from MSB for a private ponding system. It was noted that the Shenandoah plat was approved and stands, that Glenn can build on Birch Street and Ware Road until he comes in with a street bond for the inner streets in the plat. The motion to return the money was seconded by Mr. Jaworski and carried unanimously. There was discussion further on percolation tests, with Glenn stating that they had, 7 houses started already with 5 on inner streets, that he doesn't want to run perc tests on every lot if one test for the whole area would suffice, that he wants to build on every lot if he can. Mr. Marier moved that we stipulate that in the Shenandoah project percolation tests must be done on a per lot basis. Seconded by Mrs. Swanson. Carried unanimously. Mr. Marier moved that Lino Lakes abide by the Ordinance and require that all utility lines be buried in the Shenandoah project. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried unanimously. Glenn asked if they could get temporary electricity for those houses which are in; Mr. Marier felt NSP could with State approval. Glenn noted that he would put the utilities in before the blacktop. Mr. Marier presented the recommendations made by the Plumbing Inspector. The matter of using copper pipe outside the house was discussed. Mr. Marier moved, on Mr. Locher's 4/24/72 approval, that we state that Lino Lakes doesn't use copper pipe outside of houses. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried unanim ously. Mrs. Swanson reported on the Open Space Advisory Board meeting which she had attended, noting that the Clerk did not need to take notes on it. She thought that Villages should be allowed more than the half hour personal contact with the group given at hearings. Mrs. Swanson reported on the Environmental Commission, noting that we had received letters from the Chairman, and the group wants to know what steps to take on shorelines, the wetlands ordinance, and the Great Blue Heron Sanctuary. She wondered if the Park Board would work with this, and asked if they had talked to Mr. Burman on this; Mr. Cardinal said no remarks had been made on this at the Park Board meeting. Mrs. Swanson said she had talked to Mr. Burman, and, if the Village wishes, the County will take into consideration trying to acquire the Blue Heron Rookery. Mr. Bohjanen asked if she meant that she wanted the Park Board, the P &Z and the Environmental Commission to work together on this; she said yes, and also on the Comprehensive Zoning Plan. Mrs. Swanson stated that we should pin down U.S. Lakes as to what area should be designated as parks in their plat. This was discussed, with Mr. Bohjanen noting that all of U.S. Lakes' plats were not in yet, and that we will take a good look at this later. Mrs. Swanson felt that we shouldn't get lands and classify them as undevelopable. She noted that the Environmental Commission is concerned with what roles they will be playing and how far they can go; they need guidelines. Mr. Bohjanen said that the Council has been saying that they don't know what to do, so the Commission must do something on their own. Mrs. Swanson reported that she had not met with the snowmobile club yet and had nothing therefore on snowmobile laws. She said the Environmental Commission would come up with a study on the laws. She was reminded that the Commission is only a recommending body, and that adopting the laws will involve more than their recommendation. Mr. Locher reported that he had forms to be completed on our application for a burning variance from the PCA, and that he would leave them with the Clerk. After the forms are submitted, PCA will consider our request. He noted that the burning ban would be in effect by July 1st except for exempted areas. Mr. Locher reported that he had received a call from a Mrs. Villella who had asked if the Village had the right to dump water on their property. Mr. Locher said that we do if the water wasn't rechanneled since putting in the culvert. Mr. Jaworski said that the culvert had been there for 9 years, and the Viliellas should have known better than to build there since they had lived close by for some time and knew the situation. Mr. Jaworski felt Viliellas were blocking normal drainage which could cause a future problem upstream, and that they had not put in a culvert ye; also, he had talked with long -time residents of the area who told him that the water used to go over the road (4th Avenue). Mr. Locher felt it would be a matter of proof on the Villella's part. Mr. Locher asked if the Council had authorized sign permits for signs which are in place, giving the following procedure on renewing permits: 1. Permits which were issued and signs in place - until the State takes such signs by condemnation, we are authorized to issue permits. 2. Permits issued and no signs erected - we cannot give permits. 3. New signs - only can be issued on property where there is a commercial or industrial zoning and such business, and a certificate on the zoning must be sent to the State within 15 days after rezoning. 1 1 1 2o5 4/24/72 Mr. Marier moved to authorize the Attorney to send in certifications of zoning on Forrest Tagg's land. Seconded by Mrs. Swanson. Carried unanimously. Mr. Marier asked the Clerk to break down the permits into the above classifications and to bring the list to the next meeting. He suggested we do this until the end of the year; if the new law becomes effective, the State will buy the signs that are up if we issue permits for them, or they will remove the signs if there is no permit from us. Mr. Locher has finished the questionnaire on legal fees charged to the Village by his firm, and read the entire form and his answers. He noted that he sends copies of all our new ordinances to the League for them to distribute to other municipalities as samples. He also noted that we have to pay for the prosecution of tic kets by other units of government and that we get very little money back from the fines. He felt the other units should prosecute their own tickets for offenses against our ordinances and we should get the fines. The Clerk was asked to make copies of the questionnaire for members. Mr. Bohjanen reported that he has attended the MSB meeting on April 19th when our cost allocation appeal was to be discussed; the MSB Appeals Hearing Committee had recommended that our allocation be cancelled, and the final decision on our appeal and several others will be made at the MSB's May 3rd meeting. Mr. Bohjanen stated that Lexington will send a revised copy of the changed portion of the fire contract which will help to lower our insurance classification. If we get the No. 9 classification, it could give a $10 reduction on the fire insurance premium on a $20,000 home. Mr. Bohjanen noted that the matter of buying the Centerville police care was being dealt with, and that the figure of $1000 had once been mentioned. We has offer- ed $800 as a counter proposal, but he had heard by the telephone that they will not accept this price - they want $1000 or the car back. Mr. Bohjanen noted that we have the car in service, even tonight, and that the police say they can't get by with only one car. Mr. Myhre said the use the Centerville car when: 1. The Plymouth breaks down. 2. On Friday and Saturday nights in Centerville. 3. There is an amergency. 4. They have to run for parts and supplies, thus leaving the Plymouth in the Village on duty. 5. Investigating burglaries, etc., so they don't tie up the other car. Mr. Myhre said they had put 12,000 miles on the Centerville car since October, and that if we wouldn't have had that car we would be due for buying another new car by now. Mr. Myhre had gone to the Centennial BAnk to see what they thought the 1969 Ford was worth and got these prices: Retail - $1425, Wholesale- $1000, Loan Value -$925. Subtracting $150 for having more than 50,000 miles on the car gives the following figures: Retail - $1275, Wholesale -$850, Loan -$775. After discussion, Mr. Marier recommended that we wait for Centerville's letter on our proposal and see if they will have a change of heart; Mr. Bohjanen didn't think there was much chance of that. Mr. Myhre stated that the Centerville car is in better shape that the 1970 Plymouth. It was agreed to wait for the answer. Mr. Bohjanen noted that Commissioner Burman had set up a meeting on the. State Building Code for April 25th at the Anoka Court House, and that he intended to go and felt the Building Inspector should too. He mentioned that there was a similar meeting in Bloomington on the following evening. 4/24/72 Mr. Bohjanen stated that at the next Council meeting he would ask for names of persons to serve on a 5- member committee to be set up to coordinate recreational activities for youth of the area with the Park Board. Mr. Bohjanen noted that tonight was the closing of taking applications for the new Assistant Police Officer, and recommended that he meet the Police Chief, the Personnel Commission and any other Council members who wish to come, to con- sider the applications, for approval at the next meeting. He asked the Clerk to make copies of the applications for each of the members and a copy for the Personnel Commission. Mr. Bohjanen mentioned receiving a copy of a letter from the State of Molin Con crete regarding whether their sewage facilities met with PCA requirements, and asked if anyone remembered whether Molin got approval the the time. It was noted that there was no PCA then. Mr. Locher read the letter and said he would check into the matter. Mr. Bohjanen mentioned that we had 1 more Council meeting before the Board of Review on May 9th. It was felt that sending notices was unnecessary due to the County sending out cards to everyone advising of the meeting. Mrs. Swanson asked about the different dates listed in the County's letter on this, and was told that that was the period for all the Review hearings in the County, as they did not have enough personnel to hold all of them on one night. Mr. Marier moved that we adopt the new rules made by the Plumbing Inspector, that the Clerk make copies and attach them to all plumbing permits. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried unanimously. The Clerk read the letter from North Central Public Service requesting approval of buried gas lines in Shenandoah, Chomonix and along Birch Street, and read Mr. Gotwald's letter recommending approval. Mr. Marier moved to go by the Engineer's recommendations on this request and approve it. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried unanimously. Mr. Bohjanen noted that the Deputy Clerk doing evening work does not with to do any day work. Mr. Jaworski moved to advertise for a new Deputy Clerk. Sec- onded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried unanimously. Mrs. Swanson moved to amend the above motion by adding that it should be included in the advertisement that the applicants should have all clerical skills includ- ing bookkeeping abilities and shorthand, and that the ad be placed the three lo- cal newspapers. Seconded by Mr. Marier, Carried unanimously. The Clerk asked for clarification on the duties of the Deputy Clerk. It was decided that the applicants should betold that the hours are flexible, and that the new person might take over the P & Z and special evening meetings. Ken Gourley asked that more money be released to pay off $1109.35 in bills for more materials for the house he moved in. Mrs. Swanson asked if he had the siding on yet; Mr. Gourley said no, that the siding was on the site, and he expected to have it on the house in 35 -45 days. His bills were examined amid discussion. Mr. Cardinal noted that it was nice that Mr. Gourley was doing something on the house every day, and moved that we release $1109.35 to Mr. Ken Gourley. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried unanimously. Some $800 remains. Mr. Cardinal asked if the Council would nominate someone to serve on the Rice Creek Watershed Advisory Board. Mr. Gohjanen asked him to wait until next time, and asked that members bring several recommendations. 1 1 Mrs. Swanson asked if we had gotten a letter from the MSB on the cancellation of our allocatin, and stated she wanted a copy of the thank -you letter which was read at the meeting on the 19th. Clerk said she didn't have a copy in the file; Mr. Bohjanen will leave a copy for the Clerk. Mrs. Swanson asked the Clerk if separate card files on office and other equip- ment had been started yet; Clerk Had not. Mrs. Swanson wanted this done to show when equipment was bought and the money spent on its maintenance. Mr. Jaworski asked Mrs. Swanson if she had gotten a calcuator to try yet; she did not answer him. Mrs. Swanson asked if the Clerk had gotten red tags for the Plumbing Inspector; Clerk had not, but noted that Mr. West had provided his own, and she had no sample. Mr. Marier suggested getting one from an adjacent area and ordering 150 of them. Mrs. Swanson had noticed from the key list that there was only 1 key for the gas pump; Clerk thought there was an extra one. Mrs. Swanson said some committee chairman had keys for the building and were not listed. There was discussion, with the Clerk noting the list had not been up -dated since February. Mrs. Swanson asked if the part - time police had keys, and told the Clerk to bring the list up to date. Clerk said she had given a complete set of keys to Mr. Myhre and did not know which keys he gave to the other men. Mr. Myhre said that all the police men had keys to the side doors and the police office, and that he picks up the keys when a man quits. Mrs. Swanson asked Mr. Jaworski if the County men had been designated yet; he said he hadn't had time to do so yet. Mrs. Swanson said that was why he was having problems with the ditches. Mr. Jaworski denied having ditch problems; there was discussion. Mrs. Swanson brought up the matter of the $500 hookup fees whch were charged and are put into Debt Fund No. 3. She requested that these be taken out of that fund and put in another fund to pay off the bonds. Mr. Jaworski disagreed. Mr. Locher said that this is earmarked money which was set aside to pay off the assessments when they come due, and that we will ultimately need the money for that purpose. He noted that the money should be invested; Clerk said it was. Mrs. Swanson said that the bonds have to be paid off and are accumulating in- terest; it is a matter of balancing the interest. Mr. Locher agreed that we have to pick it up somewhere to accumulate it. Mr. Marier asked if we are charging for a hookup fee to an interceptor that isn't there? He stated that we should be charging to hookup to the lateral system. Mr. Jaworski and Mr. Cardinal both thought we were. Mr. Bohjanen noted that the fund is a hookup fund to pay off the Metro Sewer Board allaocation. Mr„ Marier said that we have no allocation this year, and we should charge a lateral hookup fee since the lateral is giving usage. Mrs. Swanson wondered if this meant the fee is being misrepresented; Mr. Marier said it is no different than us saying we have no flowage.. There was discussion. Mr. Marier moved to adopt Resuolution No 12 stating that the $500 hookup fee is for hooking up to the lateral system in Chomonix, and that the title of the Debt Fund N0.3 be changed to state that the money will be used for Sewers and not for paying the Metro Sewer Board allocation. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried unanimously. Mr. Marier noted that ,ferry odengren was to complete the work on his home that he moved in, such as putting siding on, and thought we should review this, perhaps send a letter. Mr. Bohjanen thought we should check the minutes on this. 258 4/2 4/72 Mr. Locher noted that the NW Bell request for aerial telephine lines did not need our approval since the ordinance only covers buried cable, but it was nice of them to send it in. Also, the line was not for a subdivision. Mr. Marier noted that the line would replace 2 sections of existing cable. Mr. Cardinal moved to approve Northwestern Bell's request for aerial cable. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried with Mr. Marier abstaining. Council discussed for appliciations received for sewer installation licenses. Mr. Cardinal moved to approve sewer installation licenses for the following: El Rehbein & Son, Inc., Berghorst Plumbing & Heating, US Lakes Development Co., and Morris B. Carlson Trenching, providing that a bond is received from Mr. Carlson. Seconded by Mr. Marier. Carried unanimously. The Assessor was asked to report on the increase in valuation which the County had sent cards to everyone on. Mr. Sarner said she had come to answer ques- tions, and noted that the State law says all real property is to be revalued every 2 years, but this is the first year that the County sent out cards telling people what the raise was. She pointed out the following: 1. This is the first year that the State will use market value instead of adjusted market value to compute the mill rate. 2. This will give the State 3 times the assessed valuation (which increases its bonding powers) and cuts the mill rate to one - third. 3. The figures she uses to compute market value come from the County as well as instructions on computing land value. 4. The County subscribes to a marketing service to keep abreast of current market value. 5. The County assesses Columbus Twp., and she must see that our land which borders on Columbus is valued in the same range. 6. The value of land changes according to the tiers of sections. 7. Noted that there isn't an acre of land in this Village that anyone will sell for less than $1000, but she has no land assessed at over $500 /acre. 8. Adjacent land values aren't more than $50 /acre different; this difference (for comparable land) would be due to access to roads. 9. Assessments have been made on the even years, but in 1973 they will be made on the odd years, thus resulting in assessments in 1972 and 1973. 10. Anyone disagreeing with their assessment is welcome to call her to dis- cuss the matter. 11. The County is issuing new field cards next month, there will be two sets of books, all current information will have to be copied over onto the new books for the 1800 parcels, and one set of books will remain here at all times. Mrs. Gould asked why the County Assessor had gone through Twilight Acres last year. Mrs. Sarner said that a reassessment had been requested by a resident. Mr. Marier asked how many people it takes to get the County Assessor to come in. Mrs. Sarner said that normally the County will do anyone's house if the individ- ual requests it; Twilight Acres was an exception. Mrs. Gould said she hadn't asked the County to reassess them. Mrs. Swanson inquired about the assessment on a piece of land she owned adjoin- ing the creek, stating that the valuation had jumped $200 in one year. There was some discussion on this, with Mrs. Sarner offering to talk to Mrs. Swanson about the matter. 4/24/72 Mrs. Swanson asked_.Mrs. Sarner what was in the set of books which sits out, in her office. Mrs. Sarner said that they are obsolete, having been printed in 1965, but not used in 1966 when the County went to IBM cards, and the only information in them is the name, parcel number and legal description. Mrs.: Swanson asked if the material in the current books had been copied from that set; Mrs. Sarner said no, it was copied from a previous set which is now at the County office. Mr. .isakson, who lives on Otter Lake Road (Hansen's Road), stated that he would like to put an 18' extension on his garage, and wondered what the restrictions were on setback from the property line. Mr. Locher said it must be 10' for an attached garage. There was discussion on this. Since Mr. Isakson had only 5' for a setback, he was advised to either request a variance from the zoning code or perhaps buy an additional 5' from his neighbor and request a variance to do that. The Clerk read the police reports for March. The bills were audited. Mr. Myhre was asked to explain the towing bills from Skelly Oil Co. He stated that the 1970 Plymouth had broken down in Acton's driveway, it was towed to Juleen's house to be fixed, but Juleen couldn't fix it, so it was towed to Coon Rapids Chrysler - Plymouth. One other time the car wouldn't start in his own yard, so it was towed up here to see if it would start when it warmed up. Another time the car hadn't started at one of the men's homes and had to be towed up here. There was discussion on towing, with Mr. Myhre noting that he has Ed's Skelly do it as they are open 24 hours a day, the County uses them, that we used to get a lot of towing for nothing, that he doesn't tow unless he has to, and that they had tried to tow with the other car, but couldn't. Mr. Bohjanen asked him to check on rates at Other places. Mrs. Swanson asked the Clerk to put purchase order numbers on all the bills which were paid and had a purchase order attached. Mr. Marier said that we should have gotten bids for the electric work done in Sunrise Park. Mr. Jaworski and Mr. Cardinal both noted that we tried to get more bids but couldn't. There was more discussion on this and on the Marvin Rehbein bill. Mr. Cardinal moved that the bills #4446 to Rivard Electric and #4453 to Marvin Rehbein Contracting be paid. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Motion carried with Mr. Marier and Mrs. Swanson voting No. Mrs. Swanson wondered how we can go ahead and pay on the sewer construction when nobody can go out and size the job up as the place was horrible, a big fat mess, that she can't see how the job is completed, no one has seen the job, there were changes and discrepancies on the construction. Mr. Cardinal stated that he had seen the work and the change order. Mr. Marier asked if he knew how many feet the change order encompassed; Mr. Cardinal said the change order was at a meeting; Mrs. Swanson said there had been no change order. Mrs. Swanson wondered who is going to pay the $8000 over and beyond our bid, we haven't received the bill yet, and we shouldn't pay this until all the work is completed to our satisfaction. Mr. Locher said the construction was covered in the bond issue. Mr. Bohjanen noted that we had already okayed paying the bill, and that 10% or some $31,000 was being held back from payment before the final calculation is made. Mr. Cardinal moved to pay bills #4455 to #4474 except for #4468 (void), and to pay payroll checks #1715 to #1735. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried unanimously. 4/24/72 M. Marier noted that the Clerk should list the Attorney's billing by dates on the list-Of checks. Mrs. Swanson wished to have a complete breakdown by item and department on the list of checks. Mr. Jaworski moved to Adjourn at 12:11 A. M. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Aye. Minutes approved at the meeting of May 8, 197 lerk- Treasurer May 16, 1972 A special meeting of the Lino Lakes Village Council was continued on May 16, 1972, to hear individual discussion as to assessments. Notices were posted on April 28, 1972, for a Board of Review. Present were Mr. Bohjanen, Mr. Jaworski, Mr. Marier and Mrs. Swanson. Mr. Cardinal was absent. Mr. Jim Thurston was present initially to represent the County Assessor's office. He stated the state has set guidelines in the form of recommendations for the counties to follow in assessing. During 1971 the increase in value to residential properties was set at 10% and for farm lands, 20 %. These were overal percentages, but not final or binding. Mrs. Sarner presented her recommendations for changes. They were: 1. Assessment on a wrong lot (Plat 87255) due 2. Reiling valuations to be left the same. 3. Typed list - values changed as presented.- and some of individuals present at May 9th to clerical error. Included prefabs, meeting. Mrs. Sarner noted that her recommendations are on these sheets, that she has discussed them with the individuals involved (with one exception, that being Dick Olson on Plat 87255) and that the people are satisfied. She advised that the tax value on $1,000 is about $35 -$40 in Lino Lakes. Mr. Marier asked if it was possible for land values to go up as much as 50% on a farm in spite of the fact that the recommended increase was 20 %. Mrs. Sarner said yes it would. He then wondered where does the 20% come in. She noted in some instances there is no increase and it averages out. She begins her assessments with the northern part of Lino Lakes which borders on Columbus Township. Values increase as you go south, with the highest valuations being in the southern part of the Village. Mr. Marier noted then that 20% is just as arbitary figure. Mr. Ken Cobbs, from the County, informed the Council that they study sales, and valuation is set based on amount of land sold. The county is tiered off using 6 mile strips. There are six plus basically different tiers of land values in Lino Lakes, each having a different rate. Land along the freeway is selling more now, so this may change. Mrs. Sarner noted that 65 acres of land has just been sold in the second tier down at $650.00 per acre, and no where in Lino is land assessed at $650 per acre. The highest is $500.00. This is along Highway 49 in the southern part. Mr. Cobbs said the 20% is an aggregate figure and that 12% overal would be a more correct percentage. The 6% referred to in the May 9th minutes, paragraph 5, line 11, is the amount at which budget can increase.