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HomeMy WebLinkAbout06/12/1972 Council MinutesMr. Bohjanen had received a letter from the County Auditor after the last meeting which gave details' of the meeting to be on June 7th for the prupose of making a recommendation for the Metro Transit Commission seat now held by Bruce Nawrocki. Mr. Bohjanen wished the Council to recommend a name for him to vote for at that meeting. After discussion, Mr. Cardinal moved that Mr. Bohjanen be mandated by the Council to voted for Bruce Nawrocki to retain his seat on the Metro Transit Commission. Seconded by Mr. Marier. Carried unanimously. Mr. Bohjanen noted that he would have 3 votes at that meeting according to our population. Mr. Marier moved to adjourn the meeting but withdrew the motion on Mr. Jaworski's request to consider another item. Mr. Jaworski stated that he had called the Attorney who had drafted an agreement on removing the trees along Sunrise AVenue onthe land owned by St. Joe's Church. He stated that the agreement had been read to Father Wirth and he was agreeable to signing it. There was no money involved. The Church had decided to sell the parcel, and the new owner will have to give the necessary easement before he can develop it. Mr. Jaworski noted that the tree removal is necessary to make room for snow removal; the ditches will be sloped. Mr. Marier moved that we authorize Mr. Jaworski and Mr. Locher to make the transactions necessary to remove the trees along the East side of Sunrise Avenue, with the agreement to be approved at the next meeting. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried. Mr. Cardinal stated that the Parks Dept. was running into a problem in that they needed a in electric drill to make the holes necessary to put up the bleachers. Mr. Marier said he could bring a drill, and asked who was putting the bleachers in. Mr. Cardinal said the Village crew was. Mr. Marier thought he should refer back to the minutes to see 'if there was any reference as to who would put up the bleachers, noting that things should be done according to the way it is said in the minutes (referring to County men). Mr. Jaworski said the minutes only referred to painting the bleachers and that the regular winter crew was told they could expect to participate in summer park maintenance. There was more discussion. Mr. Marier moved to adjourn at 8:40 P. M. Seconded by Mr. Ja o s k . Aye. Minutes approved at the'meet.ing of June 26, 197 Cler- Treasurer 6/12/72 The regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Village Council held on June 12, 1972, was called to order by Mayor Bohjanen at 8 P.M. Present were Trustees Cardinal, Jaworski and Marier. Also present were Attorney Locher and Engineer Gotwald. The first order of Mr. Cardinal nomin the Village on the is the Chairman of Mr. Cardinal, Yes; failed. business was to appoint a new Trustee to fill the vacancy. ated Mr. John McLean, making note of the fact that he has served Personnel Commission, the Building Committee, and at present the Planning and Zoning Board. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Vote: Mr. Jaworski, Yes, Mr. Marier, NO; Mr. Bohjanen, No. Motion Mr. Marier nominated Mr. Dick Zelinka, a preminent man in the community, as Trustee. s 6/12/72 Seconded by Mr. Bohjanen. Vote: Mr. Cardinal, No; Mr. Jaworski, No; Mr. Marier, Yes; Mr. Bohjanen, Yes. Mayor Bohjanen broke the tie vote, as allowed under the law, and appointed Dick Zelinka as Trustee. Mr. Zelinka then came forward and took the oath of office and was congratulated by all members. Mr. Jaworski moved to accept the minutes of the May 9th special meeting, noting that they should not be put in the big book as there was no quorum at that meeting. Seconded by Mr. Bohjanen. Carried. The corrections to the May 16th special meeting are as follows: Page 2, paragraph 6, line 2, "1972" instead of "1971" Page 2, paragraph 6, line 4, change $60.00 for it." to read "at $3,000.00 ". Mr. Marier moved to accept the minutes as corrected. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried with Mr. Cardinal abstaining. The following corrections were made to the May 19th special meetill g: Paragraph 1 should state that Mr. Marier was also present. Paragraph II, line 1, change "recommended" to "'stated". Mr. Marier moved to accept the minutes as corrected. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried. The following corrections were made to the May 22nd meeting: Page 3, paragraph 7, line 2, add "and Mr. Hill" after "Mr. Winiecki." Page 2, paragraph 7, line 5, delete "let "; replace with "taken ". Page 8, paragraph 4, line 4, insert "might" after "projects ". Page 8, paragraph 4, line 5, change "should" to "Could ". Mr. Marier moved to accept the minutes as corrected. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried with Mr. Jaworski abstaining. Mr. Hopkins was not present yet regarding his request to use the Hall. Jerry Rosengren was not present to report the progress on the house repairs. Mr. Bohjanen said he had called him about a week ago and he said that there was very little painting left on the rear overhang, and that the built on area had some siding left to go on. Hank Rosengren said the work on the house was completed today. He advised the Council to look into other areas in the Village where permits have not been obtained also. The Building Inspector saw it earlier and told Mr. Bohjanen progress was shown. Mr. Marier moved to have the Building Inspector go and look at the house, and then, if the work is complete, Jerry Rosengren can get his bond money back. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried. The Deputy Clerk reported that a letter, dated June 7, 1972, fro rrrhe Metro Council asked that different) municipalities' help in setting up a set of policies to guide the Metro Council. Mr. Bohjanen noted that they had all received copies of this. Deputy Clerk also reported we have received notice from our insurance company that the 1969 Ford Police car has been added to the automobile coverage. Deputy Clerk read a letter to Milner Carley & Associates, dated May 22nd, from MPCA; which stated that they could not approve the sewer plans for the Shenandoah project until the Village has a comprehensive sewer plan. 1 1 1 2 6/12/72 Glenn Rehbein said that the Village is caught between the Metro plan and our uncompleted comprehensive plan. Mr. Gotwald said the northwestern section of the comprehensive plan is complete. Metro wants a Village plan so they can see our land use plan and that we aren't designing with our particular subdivision in mind. Other- wise it isn't absolutely necessary. Mr. Jaworski noted that if we don't submit a Comprehensive Sewer Plan for the rest of the Village, how can they (Metro Sewer Board) do a feasibility study. Mr. Marier moved to table thtis until the first meeting in July inasmuch as we need the zoning map. Seconded by Mr. Zelinka. Carried. Clyde Rehbein noted that his request for a variance for overhead wiring has changed since the agenda was made out. They still would like to have underground wiring put in, and he is asking the Village to get in touch with NSP and request that they put underground in as stated in our ordinance. He said NSP's stand is they don't want to, but they haven't said they wouldn't. He said they are going to put in septic systems and water pumps. Mr. Marier moved to send a letter to NSP requesting that they follow our Village Ordinance No. 49 and put in underground wiring in the Shenandoah Addition. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried. Clyde Rehbein noted further that they are going to have trouble with natural gas too, and they would like Village support in seeing that they get natural gas rather than LP. The company has the perogative of serving either. Clyde said the company didn't want to guarantee service of natural because they are creating a shortage. Mr. Bohjanen moved to send a letter to North Central Public Service, asking what their intent is as to the Shenandoah Plat and their intent to serving the rest of the Village regarding natural gas. Seconded by Mr. Marier. Carried. Mr. Bohjanen noted that Mr. Hppkins still wasn't present, but that he had called requesting to use the Council Room for conducting gospel services two nights a week on any nonconflicting nights. The fact was discussed that the Chambers are used about three nights a week as it is now, and then any special meetings would put the Council out. Mr. Marier moved to send a letter telling Mr. Hopkins the request was denied. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried. Mr. Cardinal said he had a request from Steve Krube to use the Lino Lakes diamond at 6:30 P.M. on the evenings of June 12th and 19th, and July 3rd. He could see no problem there. Mr. Cardinal said that the boys in the area put up a back stop at Sunrise. No bids have been received as yet on Sunrise. Roy Backlin has a requisition in for crushed limestone which makes a good infield that the players really like. Snowfence was put up at the Lino Lakes Elementary diamond. The coach said the boys were able to hit balls quite far and this fence would keep them from running onto the street. • Mr. Cardinal said the Watershed group took a partial trip in canoes from Centerville. They saw much wild life and had quite a time. They will finish the trip if the water level stays high enough. They are working on rules and regulations and the Advisory Board is working on the overal plan. Counties were sent a resolution for regulating organization expenses. Mr. Marier said that Forest Lake District 831 had a meeting, at which there wasn't a quorum present, but that Lino had no representative present either. $5,000 is available for recreational pruposes and he felt we should get our share. Mr. Bohjanen said he would call Tuesday and see when the next meeting is scheduled. 9 6/12/72 Mr. Marier directed to Mr. Cardtnal that he should check on what park areas are in Chomonix and Shenv- andoah and see when they will develop or put the money away for future use. Mr. Cardinal said Cecil LaMotte was going to grade and seed his park area. Mr. Cardinal moved to send a letter to Mr. LaMotte reminding him to upgrade this park area. Seconded by Mr. Marier. Carried. Mr. Marier mentioned the Comprehensive proposed ordinance as it pertains to our input as to open spaces. This should be reviewed by the Park Board. Mr. Jaworski requested two 30 MPH signs to be put up on Peltier and 77th, east of County Rd. 23. He said he checked and Peltier is going to be rebuilt this summer. He also requested a "Slow Children at Play" sign for this same area. Mr. Jaworski moved to get and install these three above - mentioned signs. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried. Mr. Jaworski reported that the area behind the Hall should be leveled and graded. There were plans to use this for a little league field, and he said it wouldn't take much work to get it in shape. It certainly could be done in one working day. Mr. Jaworski moved to go ahead and have this area leveled and graded. Seconded by Mr. Marier. Carried. Mr. Jaworski reported that Mr. Locher had drawn up an agreement between St. Joseph's Church and the Village to remove trees along the Church's property on Sunrise Avenue. There is a real problem here in the winter as the snow piles up. Mr. Locher read the agreement. Mr. Jaworski said this work would mostly be cutting of trees. If there is any surplus it will be dumped on 2nd St. Mr. Jaworski moved to have the Mayor and Clerk sign this agreement. Seconded by Mr. Zelinka. Carried. A copy of this should be sent to Father Wirth. Two bids were received on gravel: Arsenal Sand and Gravel -- $2.85 /ton or $3.85/cu. yd. Richard F. Schuh -- $2.45/cu. yd. Mr. Jaworski moved to accept Schuh's bid. Seconded byMr. Cardinal. Carried. Two bids were received for seal coating roads: Bituminous Roadways -- $18,563 T. A. Schifsky & Sons, Inc. -- $17,040 Schifsky also included the price per gallon in their bid. This would be helpful for later fill -in work. The consensus was that buck shot ought to be used, and this would bring the low bid up to approximately $18,040. This is enough to take care of the Lakeview area, Bald Eagle Blvd. Linda & Laurene, Oak Lane, Rolling Hills Dr. and Ware Rd. It was noted that if the Village is billed directly from the oil company we can save about $125.00 on sales tax. Mr. Jaworski moved to accept the Schifsky bid using buck shot sand with the oil bill going directly to the Vi /lage (approximately $18.040 minus $125.00 sales tax). Seconded by Mr. Zelinka. Carried. Mr. Locher noted that the County Surveyor can't find the legal description regarding the easements on Peltier Dr. and Mrs. Wilhelmy's property. When he finds them then they can draft the agreement. This definitely will be done before too long. Mr. Jaworski said he would like to coordinate the work on Peltier with that on Sunrise. A couple of elm trees on Peltier must be disposed of in accordance with State laws and will cost a little more. Mr. Marier asked Mr. Jaworski what is being done to put chloride on 80th St. 28.1 6/12/72 Mr. Jaworski said he will get bids for the next meeting. Mr. Marier also asked about the easement for Holly Dr. with Grygelko, and one other land owner. Mr. Locher said there is no easement of record. It should be made passable and with two culverts. Mr. Gotwald said the record books show a 66 ft. easement but deeds weren't filed with the Register of Deeds. Mr. Marier asked if we have heard from the County about ditching on the east end of Birch St. Along property owned by Helen Ryke1. He moved we send them a letter and have them reply by letter by the next meeting. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried. Mr. Jaworski noted that nothing has been heard from the County concerning County Road 84 posting for 9 and 5 ton either. He felt the difference here was for the convenience of Acton Construction. Orange and Maple Streets will have been started by the next meeting. Mr. Marier moved to adopt the P &Z's recommended amendment in its entirety: Single Family Rambler - 1000 sq. ft. 12 Story & split level - 1000 sq. ft. split foyer - 960 sq. ft. 2 Story - 850 sq. ft. Duplex -R2 1000 sq. ft. per unit Apartments 4 bedroom 3 bedroom 2 bedroom 1 bedroom Efficiency Townhouses 4 bedroom 3 bedroom 2 bedroom Planned Unit Developments I bedroom & efficiency 2 bedroom 3 bedroom 4 bedroom 1160 sq. ft. 1040 sq. ft. 920 sq. ft. 800 sq. ft. 680 sq. ft. 1425 sq. ft. 1300 sq. ft. 1175 sq. ft. 700 sq. ft. 1175 sq. ft. 1300 sq. ft. 1425 sq. ft. Basementless Homes In regard to single family dwelling basementless homes, an additional minimum area of 100 sq. ft. be required to house utilities. I n regard to basementless duplexes, 100 sq. ft. additional be required for each living unit. Minimum ceiling heights Main Floor - 8 ft. Upper Floors - 7 ft. 6 in. Basements - exclusive of hallways, bathrooms and storage areas - 7 ft. 6 in. Mr. Marier said garages were not dealt with but he further recommends as part of the amendment: 100 sq. ft. minimum liveable rooms 82 6/12.72 Mr. Jack Dielentheis, U. S. Lakes Development Co., stated he thought action on minimum room sizes was going to be tabled. They have townhouses being built with 95 and 97 sq. ft. bedrooms and want to build more like them. Clyde Rehbein also wondered why Mr. Marier was including this. He said P & Z had given it much considerations and chose not to include it in their amendment, but to wait for the new State code. He said the State code would be adopted July 1st and it will state 90 sq. ft. He said Senator Augdahl wants to know of any Village violations, because they will not be tolerated. He said room size means nothing on the tax base. 90% of his plans include a bedroom of less than 100 sq. ft. Did we waste our time, he asked, going to the special P& Z meeting with builders? Mr. Locher advised that the State says we can control the square footage of buildings. The state might change them if: a) they are setup to keep low income housing out and b) they preempted the field. He said there are going to be lots of court cases, in his opinion. There are too many differences on draft for it to be accepted for the whole State. He did note the State intends now to enforce the 90 sq. ft. minimum. Mr. Gordy Howe, from the audience, said he had talked to Herb Meyer and that we should check pages 86 and 87 of the Uniform blue book. It has been passed by the Legistlature. Mrs. Swanson, from the audience, said that the P &Z gave lots of thought to this. If we get into 90 sq. ft. we get into low cost homes. Clyde and Glenn Rehbein noted that this is Mr. Marier's personal motion added on. not the P &Z's recommendation. Mr. Bohjanen seconded the motion. Vote: Mr. Cardinal, No; Mr. Jaworski, No; Mr. Marier, Yes; Mr. Zelinka, Yes; Mr. Bohjanen, Yes. Carried. Mr. Bohjanen added that if when the State code becomes effective and it states 90 sq. ft. then we can amend our ordiance. Mr. Locher reported that the insurance for the Civil Defense Auxiliary was in order, received June 9th. Notice has been received from Northwestern National Bank that $170,000 is paid and in order. He also has the application by Chomonix for an on sale liquor license, and bond received. Robert Brand has signed it and is a Lino Lakes resident. It comples with our ordinance. Their application was turned down initially. Mr. Jaworski moved to approve the Chomonix application for an on sale liquor license. Seconded by Mr. Marier. Carried. Mr. Locher said the Freeman liquor license application complies with our ordiance. He said this ordinance was adopted in 1963 and a committee should probably be appointed to look into it as it regards amounts of insurance coverage. Bond is sufficient. The 10 day cancellation clause was included. Mr. Cardinal moved to approve the Freeman application (off sale Liquor) and the Civil Defense application. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried. Mr. Locher said he hasn't heard anything yet about the burning ban. The Village does have an ordinance about burning: Ordinance No 24 adopted in 1959, Page 89 of the Ordinance book. Mr. Bohjanen said he had received a letter from a concerned citizen about a high school person working where liquor is being served. Mr. Locher read the Attorney General's 1972 opinion on this, and said we are not in violation in this case. 1 1 1 283 6/12/72 "Mr. Bohjanen read the test of a letter he had written to the Attorney as follows: "Please explain Appointment Process on Page 53. At the last council meeting the council was accused of not using the correct procedure when hiring police officers because we have not gone to the State Civil Service Commission for the help which they offer. I feel the council has ac ted correctly when they have acted on the recommendations of one of its committees, the Personnel Commission and even if they did not have such a commission they would be authorized to appoint a police officer without going through the Civil Service Commission. Appointments were made on the basis of written and oral examinations. Is this not correct? Is not the help from the Civil Service Commission optional? Mr. Locher said it was optional, but definitely not required, in his understanding of the law (to have civil service help). Mr. Gotwald submitted his estimate of the Holly Drive improvement by letter dated June 12, 1972. The estimated cost of improving the road in its present location is $2,750.00. This includes widening from an average width of 9 feet to 20 feet, installing culverts and applying 3" of gravel. Cost of relocating the road to its proper locationwould be $5,500.00. Mr. Gotwald stated that if we are going to take the responsibility of this as a public road it should be widened. Gravel amounts to about $1200.00. Grading and widening would be considerably less then. If gravel were not added now, it would have to be added and filled in later. Mr. Marier moved to accept Mr. Gotwald's recommendation and widen the road(Holly Dr.) to 20 ft., and add two culverts and grade it in its existing location. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried. Mr. Gotwald advised by letter of June 12th that our ordinance requires a bond to be furnished by a developer to cover the cost of improving the streets in a subdivision. He therefore recommended that we request a street improvement bond from the developer of Shenandoah Addition. H & S Asphalt supplied a bid to Glenn Rehbein in the amount of $27,319.00, and he had talked to Glenn about this. Glenn would have to furnish a bond in an amount of 1=z times the estimated or bid price, which would come to $40,978.00. Mr. Marier moved to have the Clerk notify the developer (Glenn Rehbein) to furnish a bond. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried. Mr. Gotwald reported that he had received a request from Northwestern Bell Telephone to bury telephone lines on Holly Drive in the shoulder. Mr. Cardinal moved to allow these lines to be buried. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried with Mr. Marier abstaining. Mr. Bohjanen advised that the Plumbing Inspector has asked that a letter be sent to any residence that is red tagged, stating that they are in violation. Mr. Boyd himself noted that sometimes these tags fly off or kids pull them down, and the people don't see them. He also stated that there is no time limit now set on these red tags, and he suggested 5 days from the time of tagging for them to get the work done. Mr. Bohjanen suggested that he notify the Clerk when issuing a tag. After some discussion, Mr. Cardinal moved that a letter should be sent at the issuance of the red tag, telling that work must stop and court action will be taken if the work is not done within 14 days from the date of the issuance. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried. It was decided that double fee means antoher fee of $10.00 rather than a $20.00 . fee the second time. Mr. Boyd stated that he felt a red tag was a serious violation. He tells people to fix it and then gives them a tag is they don't. 6/12/72 Clyde REhbein said inother villages progress stops until the red tag change is made. Mr. Boyd said he felt that was hard to do especially since, often times, people are already living in a home. There was general discussion about the percolation tests. Mr. Boyd said he had a meeting with Glenn REhbein and Ron Harless. Harless had suggested pulling tests around in various areas of the project (Shenandoah) rather doing one on each lot. Mr. Gotwald suggested that either the Village Building Inspector or Plumbing Inspector should request tests on low areas in average size lots in subdivisions. He also said that if ground water is within 6 feet of the surface they should tell them to not even bother witha percolation test as it will not pass. Mr. Cardinal moved that individual permits would require percolation tests before a building permit could be issued. In platted areas, necessary percolation tests would be determined by a quialified engineer. Commercial sites must be determined in the usual way. Seconded by Mr. Marier. Carried. Mr. Boyd further noted that the fellow or plumbing contractor who did the job should be responsible for the red tag, not the homeowner. Lino Plumbing contractors are not licensed, and their licensing would be the only way of controlling this. Outside contractors are being licensed. Frank Villella on 4th Ave. is assuming the responsibility himself because he took out the permit. The contractor should be responsible too. Mr. Bohjanen referred to a letter dated Mya 5th from the Minnesota Assn of Plumbing & Heating & Cooling Contractors, Inc., in which they advise that Lino Lakes has a bad situation inasmuch as plumbing inspections can only be made after 5 P.M. Mr. Boyd stated that his only problem is with Berghorst Plumbing & Heating. They have two red tags against them right now, so he felt-there would be no appeasing them. He said he usually makes inspections the same night they are requested. He has 24 hours from the time of notification. Mr. Bohjanen said that since Mr. Boyd is working as fast as he can on a part -time basis, that he will speak to the Attorney again. Mr. Bohjanen had a copy of the Coon Rapids ordinance concerning open spaces. Mr. Marier moved to table it until Mr. Zelinka could look at it. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried. Mr. Bohjanen said Steve Krube hasn't gotten back to him yet with names for the Recreation Committee. He still needs about 7 names. Mr. Marier moved to table any acotion onthe "Metropolitan Sewer Board Waste Regulation" until Mr. Zelinka can look at it. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried. Mr. Roberts, from the Roberts Hog Operation, was on the agenda, but the Deputy Clerk was unable to reach him by telephone. Mr. Hutchinson's letter was read, stating that he had been to the farm and spoken to the housekeeper. He saw no signs of presently feeding garbage. The housekeeper said Mr. Roberts was phasing out this operation. There have been no complaints from neighbors. The filling at Skyline Auto Body and the Blue Heron was discussed. The consensus was that Skyline's dumping could have affect to the people at the other side of the low area and that they probably shouldn't bring in any more fill. Mr. Marier moved to write the Skyline Auto Body and ask that they stop dumping. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried. Mr. Marier moved to accept the change in the Centerville Fire Contract. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried. 6/12/72 The requisitions were gone over. Mr. Marier suggested purchase of a stamp for approving requisitions and then they could just initial them. He also noted that there are four checks as of June 12th where no purchase orders were requested. There was question as to why the wide difference in advertisement charges. Mr. Cardinal pointed out that whenadvertising for Deputy Clerk the different papers ranged from as low as $6.00 to as high as $15.88 for the same ad. Mr. Rasmussen from the Forest Lake paper noted that for one thing, it is advertising space, and it would be a different rate than a legal ad and dependent on the amount of circulation. Mr. Jaworski moved to pay all bills #4516 through #4546. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried with Mr. Marier voting No. Mr. Marier moved to accept the requisitions, holding out No. 77 until we find what we have spent for tools. SEconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried. Mr. Marier moved to adjourn at 11:30 P. M. Seconded by Mr. Cardin - I. Aye. Minutes approved at the meeting of June 26, 197 % .r,, Clerk— Treasurer 285 The regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Village Council held on June 26, 1972, was called to order at 8 PM by Mayor Bohjanen. Trustees present were :Jaworski, Marier, and Zelinka; absent: Cardinal. Also present were Attorney Locher and Clerk— Treasurer Mrs. Emerton. Mr. Marier moved to approve the minutes of the special June 6th meeting as written. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried with Mr. Zelinka abstaining. The minutes of the regular June 12th meeting were corrected as follows: 1. Page 3, paragraph 4, line 1, after "check on ", change sentence to read, "what part areas are in ". 2. Page 3, paragraph 9, change 4th sentence to read, "If there is any surplus material it will be dumped on 2nd street ". 3. Page 4, paragraph 5, first line, "done" spelled incorrectly. 4. Page 6, paragraph 9, strike paragraph up to last sentence and insert the following : "Mr. Bohjanen read the test of a letter he had written to the Attorney, as follows: 'Please explain Appointment Process on Page 53, At the last council meeting the council was accused of not using the correct procedure when hiring police officers because we have not gone to the State Civil Service Commission for the help which they offer. I feel the council has acted correctly when they have acted on the recommendations of one of its committees, the Personnel Commission and even if they did not have such a commission they would be authorized to appoint a police officer without going through the Civil Service Commission. Appointments were made on the basis of written and oral examinations. Is this not correct? Is not the help from the Civil Service Commission optional? 5. Page 8, paragraph 9, last line, add at end "and dependent onthe amount of circulation ". Mr. Jaworski moved to approve the minutes of the June 12th meeting as corrected. Seconded by Mr. Zelinka. Carried.