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HomeMy WebLinkAbout10/02/1969 Council Minutes1 1 1 it was necessary to have a known signature on the issue if we wanted to market it. Springsted will also prepare press releases and we will send them out. The date of November 10th was set to adopt a resolution calling for the sale of bonds if the issue is successful at the polls. Mr. Ricklefs and Mr. Strand stated that the section of the Congressional bill which would tax municipal bonds had been shot down since there was so much opposition. They mentioned that 2700 people had asked to testify against this; 60 people; including Mr. 0smon Springsted, had been picked to do so. The meeting ended at 9:22 p.m. The September 29, 1969 minutes were approved at the meeting?of October 27, 1969. Clerk - `Treasurer A special informal meeting with Mr. Tom Van Housen of Progressive Design Associates was held on October 2, 1969. All Council members except Mr. Rosengren were present as were Mr. McLean, Mr. Karth and Mr. Stanley of the Planning and Zoning Commission and Mr. Tresler of the Park Board. Mr. Van Housen stated that he had pulled some data together and now must see what direction the Village wished to take. He had taken aerial slides which clearly showed the fine potential of the handsome chain of lakes. He also stated that the Village Council would be damned if they do or don't plan for the future. Mr. Van Housen said that he had talked with Mr. Gotwald and decided not to bother with a 701 plan or to use a lot of words. The slides were then viewed with Mr. Van Housen making comments on problems. He mentioned the Metro Council park system, the 35E interchange on our south boundary current problems on Reshanau Lake, (this was not to be considered bad), the sea- plane base which was not detrimental. Mr. Van Housen stated that at present single- family dwellings must be worth at least $35,000 to pay the Village taxes; therefore multi- family units are desireable. Also, that Metro Council wants open space to be available. He mentioned that the Baldwin Lake Trailer Court was too crowded, that it was an unfortunate thing. Trailer courts can be good if they are done properly. Some- thing must be done about the shallow lakes. Unfortunately, the whole area has a high water table and lousy subsoil. Mr. Van Housen mentioned his discussion at the previous P&Z meeting. He passed out his proposal for planning and zoning procedures. He stated that we should have no blanket zoning; he favors multi-family units. Lino Lakes should plan so that they will not be restrictive to the developer, but should offer him sane incentive. There was discussion on the Uniform Building Code, which Mr. Van Housen feels is too low in standards so that municipalities are always amending it. He stated No. 5 on the proposal was necessary so that the Village has some assurance that the plans have been adhered to. 5 6 Mr. Van Housen stated that Lino Lakes must now give him its goals for planning, whether to remain single - dwelling, or to add multi - dwelling or industrial or a blend of these. He mentioned the problems of waiting for a Ham Lake site de- cision- -that the airport had helped Bloomington to get into a good tax situation. Mr. Bohjanen asked whether, in single and multi - family dwellings, if certain places can be set aside for a certain price- range. This is not usually done, but certain areas seem to develop on their own, since these things seem to dictate themselves. He felt that the contractor or builder would control this themselves. However, he felt that a planned unit development of a compatable arrangement of various multi - family dwellings were well -liked by bankers and financiers. How- ever, before we can plan anything along this line we must have sewer and water. As for parks, Mr. Van Housen felt that the Metro Council parks plan was good since we should leave something for our children. One acre of park area should be left for each 100 people. He felt that Metro Council should pay for this land; it should not be a gift. The fiscal disparities of compensation for the loss in tax base was brought up by Mr. L'Allier. Mr. Van Housen felt that this loss could be made up by having multi - family zoning. He felt that the Village should be left for now in the current usage and that a proposed future usage plan should be drawn up. The strip zoning should be policed. He felt that the freeways should help this as the commercial will move toward them. Mr. Bohjanen asked what type of light industry Mr. Van Housen meant. This would be such as Control Data or Univac, assembly line variety with no air pollution. Mr. Van Housen thought that the area between the intersection of 35E and 35W might be zoned industrial. Any plan would have to be available to change and not rigid. He stated that this was the most virgin area that he had had to work with and it was to our advantage. Mr. L'Allier agreed that we have little choice but to come up with a balanced mix- ture of single -, multi - and industrial zonings. Mr. Van Housen stated that it will not be easy to sit on the Council as the planning develops. He felt that our amended trailer park ordinance 39A was all right, but that other places have developers put in ball fields and leave parks to the Village's responsibility. If the Metro Council develops parks here the local population will use them the most. Financers won't grant funds for projects not including pools and recreational areas. Mr. Van Housen mentioned that the Village can grant one or two more units to de- velopers who provide recreational or extra facilities in a multi - family unit development. The plan should provide something for anyone who wants to live in Lino Lakes, Mr. Van Housen stressed that L.L. is responsible for all problems on the 35E interchange. Mr..Karth asked what happens on townhouses when they start to deteriorate. This would depend on whether the units are rented or owned. A homeowner's association sees that the buildings are kept up if the renter or owner won't do it himself. The Village can do something along this line by planning so that masonry is used instead of wood for containing fires, for example. Mr. Van Housen mentioned hi -rise buildings, that we should see that they are properly done, that sprinkler systems are used on each floor, and more open -space is used in connection with them. Six to eight stories for these is average. III The slides were viewed again. Mr. Van Housen mentioned that a satellite city might form between the freeways. It is not right that the worst land should be left for industry. He felt that some landscaping should be done to enhance the Rehbein bus barn on Hodgson Road. 1 1 Mr. Van Housen stressed once again that the Village should give consideration to bringing in sewer and water. However, developers must pay their share. He then suggested thtthe Council get some ideas to give to the P&Z regarding goals, population, etc. There was further discussion of the Uniform Building Code. Mr. Van Housen suggested =rather that we look into the St. Paul Building Codes as they are quite strict. Even ours is preferable to parts of the Uniform Code. He again suggested that we take a good look at his proposals, that they would be something for the Attorney to hang his hat on. Mr. McLean commented that often prior notice of hearings, etc., were read in the paper. He felt they should have time to study these things before the meeting. The Clerk was instructed to send copies of the proposals to the P&Z members. They were placed on the agenda for Oct. 27th. Mr. Van Housen especially wished that items one and two be considered. Mr. McLean stated that the P&Z would study the Uniform Building Code next time and asked that Mr. Van Housen be present. He will try. The Clerk was instructed to get about 10:00 p.m. Minutes approved at the meeting copies of the St. Paul Code. The meeting ended of October 13, 1969 ,��t zrti i,r� /Clerk Treasurer The regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Village Council held on October 13, 1969 was called to order at 8:13 p.m. by Acting Mayor Bohjanen. Also present were Mr. Jaworski and Mr. Cardinal; absent were Mr. L'Allier and Mr. Rosengren, both out of state. The minutes of the September 22 meeting were amended by adding "Mr. Cardinal moved to adopt Ordinance No. 50 dealing with the raising of the penalties on the ordinances. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried." Corrections to the September 22nd minutes were made and Mr. Jaworski moved to accept these minutes as corrected and amended. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried. Mr. Cardinal moved to accept the minutes of the September 25th budget meeting as written. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried. Mr. Jaworski moved to table the minutes of the special September 29th meeting with Springsted Inc. on Mr. Bohjanen's suggestion (since he had not been present at same). Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried. A report on plastic pipe made by Mr. West, Plumbing Inspector, was read as follows: The 1969 State Plumbing Code approved of the use of plastic pipe with the fol- lowing restrictions: 1) the maximum length (either horizontal or vertical) is 30',