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Mr. Bohjanen moved to have Mr. Gotwald contact Lyle Krueger on the above items and to
have Mr. Krueger come for an interview at a special meeting on Wednesday, July 8,
at 8:00 p.m.; notices of the meeting to be waived. Also that the Attorney be contacted
to attend. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried unanimously.
The Building Committee gave the following approximate figures for addition items for
the building and area:
1. ,Well and sewer
2. Painting
3. Carpeting
4. Blacktopping
5. Sod and planting
6. Grading and filling hole
7. Air compressor,and welder
8. First interest payment
Total
$2000
750
1800
3000
:1000
1000
3000
6500
$19,050
This figure plus the bid would be nearly $100,000. It was felt that some items such
as the blacktop and shop equipment could be cut somewhat for this year and put on
the next budget. Mr. Gotwald felt that we bad gotten good bids.
The payment schedule was checked and it was found that the interest paymeht in 1971
was due on March 1st; after that semi- annual interest payments would be on March 1
and September 1, with the bond payment due on March 1st of each year. The Clerk was
asked to check on the net amount left of the $100,000 bond.
Samples of paneling, brick and building color will be a+itted after the contract was
awarded.
Mr. Cardinal moved to adjourn.at 9:37 p.m. Seconde Mr. Rosenggrren. All voted aye.
Minutes corrected at the meeting of July 13, 1970
Clerk- Treasurer
The special meeting of the Lino Lakes Village Council held on July 8, 1970, to meet
with Lyle Krueger, d/b /a Krueger Construction Co., concerning his bid on the new
municipal building was called to order at 8:08 p.m. by Mayor L'Allier with all
members present. Mr. Gotwald and Mr. Locher were also present.
Mr..Cardinal moved to waive notice of this meeting as time was so short. Seconded by
Mr. Bohjanen. ,Motion carried unanimously.
Mr. L'Allier stated that the Council had gone over the bids on July 6th and had voted
to return the deposits of all bidders except the two lowest which will be held for
30 days.
Mr. Gotwald stated that Mr. Krueger had had the lowest lump sum,bid amount and that
only one of the listed deductions was allowed, namely the $821 for the substitution
of 26 gauge metal for 24 gauge. Mr. Bob Coyle of Balco Building Systems, which
would supply the material for the Butter building, stated that the reason they
suggested 26 gauge was that the only color Butler had in 24 gauge was parchment.
He also stated that 99 -1/2% of their buildings are of 26 gauge material. The only
reason the other company can supply 24 gauge is that they use a wider span on
their beams, etc. Mr. Coyle felt that 26 gauge would be quite adequate for side
wall deflection and durability. Mr. Gotwald noted that the net bid price using
the one deduction would be $82,986.
Mdr. Locher confirmed the fact that no new deductions could be allowed than those
presented with the base bid based on our specifications. However, additions are
allowed since we would be requesting them and they would not lower the bid amount.
. Gotwald proceeded to.read the Krueger deductions which were not acceptable.
W. Coyle proposed that the canopies be changed to 6' all around so that the
extension beams needed for the wider canopies would not be necessary as they would
show, not being covered like the ones for 6' canopies. He stated that over $2,000
could be deducted if they changed to 6'; also they had originally deducted some
$4,000 for soft material because the Krueger people would do the work. W. L'Allier
noted that the Council had decided on Monday night to leavy the canopy widths as
originally planned rather than change the bidding specs.
Mr. Coyle questioned whether we would get our money's worth out of the lined ceiling
in the garage area. He stated that Butler's insulation had a hard aluminum finish
which can be washed. Also the liner gives bad echo effects. He felt that the 8"
insulation was cheaper material and gave some details on what Butler had in comparison.
There was discussion on the virtues of 8" versus 3" insulation.
W. Krueger was asked for his additional items. W. Ken Skoglund, representing
Mr. Krueger, stated that the sidewalks, aprons and grade beam addition would be $2,200.
W. Skoglund stated that they would install American Standard plumbing fixtures,
a Troid heating system, with 2 units in the garage and a 160,000 BTU unit for the
rest of the area. The air conditioning unit would use the same lines. A 4 -ton
unit would be installed for the whole non - garage area plus a 1 -1/2 ton unit in the
Council chambers.
Mr. Skoglund said that they would back all the panelling; would provide 200 amp
electric service, Formica counter tops in the Clerk's office, bathrooms, and coffee
bar would be provided. They would also put in all bathroom accessories, all doors
and necessary hardware, also the vanity, mirrors, etc.
They would put in everything called for in the coffee bar; the overhead garage doors
would be fibreglass, but the bottom panel in these doors probably would not be steel.
There will be a 75 gallon gas water heater; water closets, sinks, eta. as called for
will be provided. The restrooins will be finished to the sheetrock. They had put
in a deduct for vanity, etc. since,they didn't feel we would put in these items
until the ceramics were installed..
Mr. Skoglund mentioned that the plumbing would be done by Ron Grander of Hugo,
the heating.by McGrath of Forest Lake and the electric by Rivard of Centerville. The
duct work will be in the floor for both heating and air conditioning. ,
W. Coyle stated that a blanket of insulation would go around the building where
it meets the floating slab; also the bottom panel overlaps the slab. W. Krueger
stated that we could have any type of brick we want. The inside panelling would
be 250sq. ft. as called for in the specs. There would be insulation on the
division walls. W. Coyle showed pictures of the Butler,windows and panels, including
their monopanel.
Mr. Krueger stated that there would be no base trim until carpeting was installed;
the.interior doors could be of oak, mahogany, or birch to match the interior
paneling. The outside doors are plate glass, not insulated, having closers on
them.
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Mr. Gotwald emphasized that we still need a signed written set of complete plans
from Krueger. Mr. L'Allier asked if the bid included the painting and was told
"no ", that this would be an addition of $200 -$300. Mr. Krueger was told to put
the baseshoe molding in the bid; this could be installed after the carpeting.
Mr. Krueger stated that Rivard has an engineer who will put in all the requested
fixtures for the whole job.
There was more discussion on the liner in the garage as well as on the canopies
and gutters, which the Council felt were unnecessary. Mr. Coyle stated that they
would add $634 if they used the fibreglas insulating panel and would deduct
$2,160 for not using the liner, which would save about. Mr. Coyle also
showed the Council their various roof panels; the superior in colored or aluminum
would cost $1,208 more than the standard roof. A charge of 1- 1 /2fi /sq. ft. would
be charged for the 20 -year guarantee on the roof. However, they would only
guarantee the regular roof for 1 year, feeling that a leak would show up in that
time.
Mr. Krueger stated that Midwest Erectors would put up the building, not Balco.
Mr. Coyle stated that the contractor was then responsible for everything except
material. On questioning by Mr. Bohjanen, Mr. Krueger stated that he himself has
never put up a steel building. Mr. Gotwald felt it was not very attractive to be
involved with so many peiple, because of responsibility and guarantee for things like
roof leakage.
There was discussion on the air conditioning which the Council wanted on the ground,
using a double pipe system overhead. Mr. Gotwald pointed out that the Krueger bid
did not net the specs in this case. Mr. Skoglund was told to check with their
contractor to get the bid amount on the changes in air conditioning and report this
to the Clerk, since they must conform with the specs; otherwise the whole thing would
have to be rebid.
Mr. Locher stated that there was nothing wrong with filling in where something was
inadequate in the bid, but he questioned the guarantee between Midwest and Krueger.
There was more discussion on this. Mr. Coyle stated that in the 900 -1000 buildings
Balco has erected, they had had no structural failure yet. Mr. Gotwald countered
that the taxpayers expect this building to last for 50 years.
The Krueger lump sum bid of $83,807.00 minus the deduction of $821 for 26 gauge
plus the addition of $2,200 for sidewalks, etc. gives a net bid of $85,436.
Mr. Gotwald noted that the painting had not been included in the Mattson bid, so
the $250 was deducted from Krueger's leaving $85,186. The difference in the two
bids is $1,818 with Krueger higher than Mattson. However,' any addition for the
change in the air conditioning will increase the difference.
Mr. L'Allier wondered if Krueger would have to proceed with the extra work to
make the required written specs, but noted that the decision would not be made
tonight but at Monday's meeting when it is on the agenda. There was more discussion
on the guarantee; Mr. Coyle stated that Butler will match any other company's
guarantee. Mr. L'Allier commented that there was really no difference in this
then, although there was in the contractor's guarantee.
Mr. L'Allier stated that one other thing had come up; namely, that the bond funds
invested in 'Treasury bills had matured and should be reinvested. After discussion
on how to pay the contractor, Mr. Bohjanen moved to reinvest the funds having the
first third of the bid amount come to maturity on the last day of August, the
second third on the last day of September and the balance of the bunds on the last
day of October. Also, it should be arranged so that the bank notifies the Clerk
immediately when the funds mature; if they are not needed at that date, then
they should be put into a daily interest fund until required by the contractor.
Seconded by W. Jaworski. Carried unanimously.
Mr. Coyle again brought up the subject of the ceiling liner; W. Gotwald stated
that originally the Building Committee had wanted 8" material but had changed the
specs to 3" to make the bidding equal. He felt that if the contractors wanted
to hire mechanical engineers to fight out the advantages of the types of insulation,
they could. Mr. Gotwald had talked to independent insulation companies for
information and had found that the 8" was quite satisfactory. W. Jaworski
mentioned that Krueger had put no alternatives on the insulation in their bid.
W. Locher noted that any substitutions had to be equal to or better than those
required in the specs; we can't just go by the dollar value.
There was Some further discussion on vapor barriers and the insulation. Mr. Gotwald
felt this was not a big item; besides there would still be a difference of some
$300 even if Krueger;s deductions were made. Mr. Krueger was told to have the
information on the changes in air conditioning into the office by Monday.
W. Jaworski moved to adjourn at 10:02 p.m. Secondecy by Mr. CCardinal. Aye.
Minutes approved at the meeting of July 13, 197Q
Clerk— Treasurer
The regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Village Council held on July 13, 1970, was called
to order by Mayor L'Allier at 8:05 p.m. with all members present.
Mr. Bohjanen moved to accept the minutes of the Board of Review hearing on June 18th
as written. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried unanimously.
W. Cardinal moved to accept the minutes of the regular June 22nd meeting as
corrected. Seconded by W. Bohjanen. Carried unanimously.
W. Jaworski moved to accept the minutes of the special meeting held on July 6th as
written. Seconded by W. Rosengren. Carried unanimously.
W. Jaworski moved to accept the minutes of the special July 8th meeting as
written. Seconded by Mi. Bohjanen. Carried unanimously.
The Clerk stated that the affidavit of publication for the Smith hearing (Ord. 6U)
had been received as well as the June settlement from the County in the amount of
$28,475.88. Also, the money from the bond sale had been reinvested to conform
with the Council's wishes. A letter written to W. Blaylock from North Central
Public Service Co. stated that gas lines would be run in Baldwin Lake Road this
month. Literature on office furniture for the new Council chambers, etc. had been
received from General Office Products of Minneapolis.
W. Cardinal reported that he had talked with W. William Waldoch who had received
the bill for the taxes on the 30 acre parcel and which we were liable for. Also,
when the 2 acre piece was staked out for the new bidding, the piece had excluded
the road easements, so it should have been about 2 -1/2 acres total. Mr. Waldoch
felt he should have more money than agreed on previously. Mr. Cardinal suggested
that we authorize the payment of the approximately $157 in taxes and authorize
the purchase of 1 additional acre of land from W. Waldoch at $550. W. Bohjanen
moved to authorize the same. Seconded by W. Rosengren. Carried unanimously.
Mr. Cardinal stated that he bad the bill for 84 yards of black dirt delivered by
Marvin Rehbein to the parks, and that there was no charge. He felt that a letter
thanking Mr. Rehbein would be in order; the Clerk was instructed to write same.
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