HomeMy WebLinkAbout07/13/1970 Council Minutesthey should be put into a daily interest fund until required by the contractor.
Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried unanimously.
W. Coyle again brought up the subject of the ceiling liner; Mr. Gotwald stated
that originally the Building Committee had wanted 8" material but had changed the
specs to 3" to make the bidding equal. He felt that if the contractors wanted
to hire mechanical engineers to fight out the advantages of the types of insulation,
they could. Mr. Gotwald had talked to independent insulation companies for
information and had found that the 8" was quite satisfactory. Mr. Jaworski
mentioned that Krueger had put no alternatives on the insulation in their bid.
Mr. Locher noted that any substitutions had to be equal to or better than those
required in the specs; we can't just go by the dollar value.
There was Some further discussion on vapor barriers and the insulation. Mr. Gotwald
felt this was not a big item; besides there would still be a difference of some
$300 even if Krueger;s deductions were made. Mr. Krueger was told to have the
information on the changes in air conditioning into the office by Monday.
Mr. Jaworski moved to adjourn at 10:02 p.m. Seconde by W. Carrdinal. Aye.
Minutes approved at the meeting of July 13, 1970
Clerk- Treasurer
The regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Village Council held on July 13, 1970, was called
to order by-11610r L'Allier at 8:05 p.m. with all members present.
Mr. Bohjanen moved to accept the minutes of the Board of Review hearing on June 18th
as written. Seconded by-Mi. Jaworski. Carried unanimously.
Mr. Cardinal moved to accept the minutes of the regular June 22nd meeting as
corrected. Seconded by W. Bohjanen. Carried unanimously.
W. Jaworski moved to accept the minutes of the special meeting held on July 6th as
written. Seconded by Mr. Rosengren. Carried unanimously.
Mr. Jaworski moved to accept the minutes of the special July 8th meeting as
written. Seconded by Mi. Bohjanen. Carried unanimously.
The Clerk stated that the affidavit of publication for the Smith hearing (Ord. 6U)
had been received as well as the June settlement from the County in the amount of
$28,475.88. Also, the money from the bond sale had been reinvested to conform '
with the Council's wishes. A letter written to Mr. Blaylock from North Central
Public Service Co. stated that gas lines would be run in Baldwin Lake Road this
month. Literature on office furniture for the new Council chambers, etc. had been
received from General Office Products of Minneapolis;
Mr. Cardinal reported that he had talked with Mr. William Waldoch who had received
the bill for the taxes on the 30 acre parcel and which we were liable for. Also,
when the 2 acre piece was staked out for the new bidding, the piece had excluded
the road easements, so it should have been about 2 -1/2 acres total. Mr. Waldoch
felt he should have more money than agreed on previously. Mr. Cardinal suggested
that we authorize the payment of the approximately $157 in taxes and authorize
the purchase of 1 additional acre of land from Mr. Waldoch at $550. Mr. Bohjanen
moved to authorize the same. Seconded by Mr. Rosengren. Carried unanimously.
W. Cardinal stated that he had the bill for 84 yards of black dirt delivered by
Marvin Rehbein to the parks, and that there was no charge. He felt that a letter
thanking Mr. Rehbein would be in order; the Clerk was instructed to write same.
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W. Jaworski reported that he and W. Bohjanen had attended the meeting at Spring
Lake Park on tax disparities in regard to trailer homes. The meeting had been
well attended with representatives from all of the villages in Anoka County as
well as some from Ramsey County. A representative of the Minn. Assn. of Mobile
Homes had spoken, stating that the Assn. realizes that mobile homes do not con-
tribute enough taxes but that most trailer owners are more than willing to pay
their fair share, and that new legislation is needed. A study board is being set
up to determine what sort of legislation is necessary. This board wants to know
the feelings of the communities towards the taxes received from trailer homes,
whether the amount is adequate or not.
Mr. L'Allier wished to go on record, advising this committee, based on statements .
recently received from Centennial School District#12 in conjunction with recommend-
ations by the League of Minnesota Municipalities, that we are in favor of and willing
to help promote legislation which would help solve the tax disparities problem with
mobile homes and that we would like to be in close contact with this group. W.
Jaworski moved to send a letter to this study group stating the above and to include
a copy of the draft on proposed legislation from the League. Carbon copies will be
sent to our legislators and the superintendents of the three school districts in
Lino Lakes. Motion seconded by Mr. Bohjanen. Carried unanimously. It was mentioned
that this meeting had been called by our legislators.
Mr. Rosengren stated that the work on Bald Eagle Blvd. which could not be finished
last fall because of rain had been redone; they are ready to start work on the
other roads. W. Rosengren asked about having the weeds cut. After discussion
Mr. Bohjanen moved to publish an ad for the weed cutting with bids to be in by the
first meeting in August and the work to be done in August. Seconded by W. Rosengren.
Carried unanimously.
W. Rosengren mentioned that he hadn't been able to get in contact with the salesman
on the new truck; he thought a trade using one of our vehicles might be worked out.
W. Rosengren stated that North Central had already installed the line on Baldwin
Lake Road --in fact, residents had complained about the sand left in place of gravel.
A letter will be written to North Central reminding them of our Ordinance No. 49
and requesting drawings of the lines so that the summer roadwork can commence.
Mr. Rosengren asked how the vote had gone in Lino on the hospital bond election; the
Clerk replied that of 88 ballots cast, 68 were against and 20 were for the bond.
W. Rosengren asked W. Locher whether liquor could have been sold during the hours
of the hospital election; although it is now past, we should have clarification
for the future. W. Locher will check.
W. Rosengren noted that the road department was ready to begin work on the summer
program. •Mr. Gotwald read from the plan which had been accepted earlier; the
estimated cost for the 3.6 miles of work was $12,115. W. Rosengren noted that,
with the exclusion of the bills presented this evening, he had approximately
$22,900 in the fund to work with. They will start with the dust control on Baldwin
Lake Road and Linda and Lauren first.
There was discussion on some short pieces of roads not accepted by the Village.
After W. Gotwald comes up with the length of road and cost of work, the Village
will set a date after which any road must be brought up to specifications before
it is accepted.
Mr. Rosengren moved to authorize the survey of,the 30 -acre parcel purchased from
the Waldoeh's. Seconded by.Mr. Cardinal. Carried unanimously.
Mr. Bohjanen asked whether the Clerk had received the required forms from Clyde
Rehbein and was told no. (The deadline set in the letter was July 13, 1970, at
8 p.m.). Mr. Locher explained what should be done in this case. Mr. Jaworski
moved to start legal proceedings against Clyde Rehbein for not securing a septic
system license or sewer permits for the duplexes on Lake Drive; namely that the
Plumbing Inspector be instructed to draft a complaint for the issuance of a ticket
for violation of Ord. No. 48. Seconded by Mr. Bohjanen. Carried unanimously.
Mr. Bohjanen stated that he had talked with Rep. Vern Plaisance who had gotten
the criteria for speed zoning from the State Hwy Dept., but was waiting for a
letter of clarification. Mr. Plaisance was expected to attend the meeting later
on this evening.
W. Bohjanen also stated that the date for the open house and celebration would
be set for a later time,than September.
Mr. L'Allier moved to send a letter to Sheriff Talbot (like last year) requesting
that he submit a bid on policing Lino Lakes prior to budget time, asking that he
inform us if their department will enforce all our local ordinances, what their
function will be, the dollar amount of the cost to us, assuming that we have no
constables enforcing local ordinances, that they will act only as constables perse,
giving us the date that they will take over any additional area in the surrounding
communities, the number of personnel they will assign whether they police Lino
Lakes only or additional communities, the number of cars involved in full time and
back -up vehicles, respectfully requesting that they return the bid prior to
September 1, which is prior to our first budget meeting. Carbon copies of the
letter are to be directed to Bernie Steffen, County Administrator, Bob Johnson,
County Attorney and the County Commissioners. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried
unanimously.
Mr. L'Allier stated that he had received a letter requesting him as representative
of the Village to appear on July 14 before an informal Grand Jury inquiry on
possible legislation regarding part -time police forces. As the law now stands it
is mandatory that we either go to full -time force, County policing, or join with
neighboring forces to create full -time police. Mr. L'Allier reiterated the circum-
stances of the meetings and requests in trying to combine with Lexington and
Circle Pines forces, which hasn't worked out with higher officials. They haven't
completely abandoned the idea of the three- community force, however.
Mr. L'Allier added that he had discussed the matter of compulsory training of
part -time personnel with the Minnesota Peace Officers Training Board and had been
told that while they were not pushing this compulsory training, they were strongly
recommending it. The training consists of 6 weeks of full -time schooling. New
legislation to appropriate money to train part -time officers on a part -time basis
will be introduced in the next session.
Mr. Locher had not yet had the chance to compare the North Central ordinance with
Ord. No. 41, and was asked to do so by the next meeting and to have his secretary
type.out the differences.
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Mr. L'Allier requested the Clerk to place proposed Ordinance No. 54 on inflammable
liquids on the agenda for July 27th. He asked Mr. Bohjanen if anything new had
come up on the watershed meetings. Mr. Bohjanen stated that neither watershed
group had had any meetings; at least he had not been advised of any.
Mr. Gotwald had no special report.
Mr. Locher stated that he had received a letter from the State Attorney General
which actually sidestepped the matter of restricting the number of school -age
children in a trailer court or restricting the trailers to only new ones, but had
stated that it was a matter for local determination. The enforceability of such
restrictions is questionable; if a trailer owner with other children should go to
court we might be obliged to defend the case. Mr. Locher had subsequently received
a letter from Joseph Summers, Atty. for Menkveld, who wishes the matter to be put
on the agenda. Mr. Rosengren moved to continue the Menkveld hearing on July 27th
at 9:30 p.m. and to authorize the sending of the notices again. Seconded by
Mr. Cardinal. Carried unanimously.
Mr. L'Allier commented that the reason we had asked an opinion of the Attorney
General was because of the question of legality of enforcing the restrictions.
He felt that it was a sham we couldn't get an.answer because it was a political
year—chances are that we'll have to go to court because of this and have to waste
the taxpayers money because of the politicians.
Mr. L'Allier acknowledged the presence of Vern Plaisance who stated that he was
trying to get the previously mentioned letter from the Hwy Department but hadn't
yet received it, Mr. Plaisance stated that the criteria contained a formula
called the 85th percentile which goes on the statistical assumption that 85% of
the motorists will obey the posted limit while 15% will go faster than they
should. He mentioned that some states use the 90th percentile which gives a
higher limit. Although this doesn't seem realistic, national statistics bear
the law out. Mr. Plaisance stated that the County had informed him that they
have asked for a new study on the Main Street speed limit.
Mr. Art Hagen of Mattson Building & Supply, Inc. was present to answer questions
on his company's bid. Mr. Hagen gave statistics on the 8" insulation which has a
U factor of .034 compared with a U factor of .09 for the 1 -12" or 3" insulation.
Stran -Steel uses 8" insulation almost exclusively and have therefore gotten the
method of applying it down so well that they can offer a deduction for its use
because of a saving in the labor factor.
Mr. Hagen stated we could talk with many satisfied customers as far as insulation
or other matters. He stated that we could get all of their colors in either gauge.
The guarantee on leakage would have to come from the general contractor as the
panels come without holes from the factory. Mattson would give a one -year guarantee
on leakage and all workmanship, but would still take care of problems after that
period of time. Stran -Steel has a five -year guarantee against defective materials.
Mattson is a franchised general contractor for Stran - Steel. They do the bulk of
the work except for the plumbing, heating and electrical which is sub - contracted
out on a bid basis. On questioning by Mr. Bohjanen, Mr. Hagen stated that a local
man might be hired if needed on their permanent crews.
Mr. Hagen stated that the air conditioning and heating would be as shown in their
plan; namely that both would go overhead. If we wished to have the ducts in the
cement they will do so, but it would•be an alternate to their bid. Heating and air
conditioning will be Lennox. There was further discussion on the insulation and
on the definition of a commercial door which, according to Mr. Gotwald, would not
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involve a steel panel on the bottom. W. Hagen showed a sample of their insulation
and roofing panel, stating that the density of the 8" insulation was 2 -1 /4 #.
The Mattson net.bid would be $83,368 after deductions.
The Krueger representatives were asked about the air conditioning change, the
extra cement, etc. Ken Skoglund stated that the overhead air conditioning and
cement work would make for no additional costs but would be included in the base.
bid. The Krueger bid with the one deduction for 26 gauge metal would net at
$82,986. The differences in the two bids was thus $382.
Mr. Gotwald was asked for his opinion but had none at this time. W. Hagen asked
if the present Krueger bid had been submitted after the bid letting and was told
"yes ", but that there was no change in the base bid amount. W. L'Allier asked
W. Hagen when construction would start and was told immediately, as soon as the
contract is signed, with working time to be 135 running days. Ken Skoglund stated
that Krueger would start immediately with the estimated time of 180 days probably
shaved to 135 -145 days. W. Gotwald noted that these times would begin after the
contract is signed which would be done after the written blueprints are accepted.
W. Locher asked W. Hagen about the amount for painting which was not included
in the bid but added as an alternate. W. Gotwald noted that the painting needs
to be done after the interior decoration is finished. W. Hagen stated that their
plans for the electrical, heating, and plumbing work are already laid out.
W. Locher stated that the difference was now $382 but that it would be greater if
we went to 24 gauge metal. Mr. Gotwald noted that only one color could be obtained
from Krueger in 24 gauge. However, W. Skoglund noted that all colors could be
obtained but there would be a wait for the factory to produce it. There was
further discussion on the insulation, with Mr. Gotwald noting that the Building
Committee had originally asked for 8" insulation. W. Locher noted that the,small
bid difference might be a wise investment if the 8" insulation is better. W.
Gotwald asked about the guarantee. Ken stated that Baleo would meet any guaranty.
W. Hagen noted that the heating costs had been worked out with the utility company
and that the difference in bid cost could be picked up in heating savings in less
than 2 years.
Ken..asked what the difference in bids was if both systems met the specs, namely,
that the Mattson bid on heating went by the specs. W. Gotwald stated that an
addition of $3260 was included in the Mattson bid for heating ducts in the
cement, for a net bid amount of $86,628. W. L'Allier noted that the Krueger bid
thus meets the building specs, but the Mattson bid did not without an add -on.
W. Hagen noted that he had contacted George prior to the bid opening and asked
if their heating plan was satisfactory and was told "yes ". W. Gotwald felt they
should have put in an alternate for their plan rather than for our specified plan.
W. L'Allier asked W. Skoglund if they would put in 8" insulation and was told
"no ". W. Gotwald asked W. Locher if it made any difference in the,additions
and deductions when Krueger had originally given us a verbal statement that no
sidewalks and-16" footings were included in the bid and an add -on would be
necessary for this work, only to have him include these in the base bid later.
W. Locher stated "no" since he came in now with them in writing to include it
in the base bid.
W. L'Allier went over the figures, noting that the difference in the bids was
now $3642 if we held Mattson to the specs. Mr. Jaworski talked about the over-
head heating system, stating that Krueger had no alternate for this system in his
bid.
Mr. Gotwald recommended that since the Building Committee had met and came up
with the basic design that the matter should be referred back to them for study
and research since there was a substantial difference in the bids; also that the
bidders should get written plans to conform with the specs, etc.
W. L'Allier stated that the'basic thing at issue was the insulation and that
sending the whole thing back to the Building Committee for just this item would
make some delay in getting into the new building. Since Mattson is unwilling to
put in the 3" insulation and Krueger is unable to put in the 8 ", we have our
choice of either; if the 8" is better, is it $3642 better"
'There was considerable discussion on having the two types of insulation tested
and by whom. Mr. Bohjanen moved that both contractors (Mattson and Krueger)
'submit their insulation samples to both Northern States Power and Twin City_
'Testing for two separate reports on both products and that the results of these
'tests be submitted to the Council at a special meeting on Thursday (July 16th)
'at 8 p.m. It is understood that these tests would be done at no cost to the
°Village. Seconded by W. L'Allier. Carried unanimously.
'Mr. Cardinal moved to reset the awarding of the bids to Thursday night at 8 p.m.
Seconded by Mr. Rosengren. Carried unanimously.
The Clerk read the police report as follows: 2,562 miles driven, 227 business
and home checks, 21 complaints, 12 junk warnings - result 22 junk cars removed,
'7 assists to/by other departments, 7 escapees (2 returned) 4 hours involved,
-4 petty thefts totaling $387.95, 2 stolen autos - total worth $1,200.00, 4 stolen
'items recovered - total worth $2,475.00, 3 accidents, 2 domestics, 2 assaults,
2 legal papers served, 2 medicals, 1 emergency message delivered, 1 burglar alarm
'answered (false), 1 runaway juvenile (returned), 1 aid given to stranged motorist.
W. McShannock was in the audience. W. L'Ailier noted his presence and inquired
about the status of the junk car situation. Marvin Myhre stated that 7 of 9
vehicles had been either removed or cut up for removal and that he had issued no
ticket since some progress had been made.
Mr. Bohjanen moved to pay the bills as audited. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal.
Carried unanimously.
Mr. Cardinal moved to adjourn at 10 :21 p.m. Seconded by Mr. Bohjanen. Carried
unanimously.
BILLS: July 13, 1970
3098 Stanley E. Thayer
3099 Centennial State Bank of Lex.
3100 Commissioner of Taxation
3101 Babcock, Locher, Neilson
& Mannella
3102 Construction Bulletin
3103 Forest Lake Times
3104 VOID (Replaced by #3110)
3105 Public Employees Retirement
3106 Bruce Fleming
3107 Fridley Office Supply Co.
3108 Petty Cash Fund
3109 Robert E. Raymond
3110 R. V. Ellingsen
3111 Hugo Feed Mill & Elevator Co.
3112 Mitch Nygren
3113 Mike Wenzel
(continued)
Refund of overpayment on cigarette license
U.S. payroll deductions for June
State payroll deductions for June
Legal services for June
Advertising of munic. bldg. bids
,Legal publishing of bldg. bids & Ord. 6T
Interest on late payments made earlier this
Animal control for June
Clerk's office supplies
2 rolls stamps, certified mail to Dahl.
Reimbursement for 4 -1/2 hrs. spent in court
Weed inspector's salary plus mileage
General weed control supplies
Bounty on 25 pairs gopher feet
Bounty on 25 pairs gopher feet
$ 6.00
300.90
63.90
81.10
26.00
33.30
yr. 7.59
120.00
5.10
13.01
22.50
19.08
43.62
6.25
6.25
BILIS CONTINUED: July 13, 1970
3114 Daniel Neff
3115 Village of Circle Pines
3116 New Brighton Hardware
3117 Gopher Stamp & Die Co.
3118 Canadian Black Dirt Co.
3119 Columbus Township
3120 Mobil Oil Corp.
3121 M. & I. Auto Supply Co.
3122 T. A. Schifsky & Sons, Inc.
3123 VOID (Replaced by #3134)
3124 Minnesota Fire Ins.
3125 Display Sales Co.
3126 Vaughn's
(3127) Northern States Power Co.
(3127)
(3127)
(3128) North Star Oil Corp.
(3128)
(3128)
(3129) Northway Hdwe & Auto
(3129)
(3129)
(3129)
(3130) Gordon's Corner Inc.
(3130)
(3130)
(3131) Inter -State Lumber Co.
(3131)
11 "
" 11
8 11
11 11
" 11
11 "
11 11
8 11
3132 State Treasurer, PERA account
11 11
3133 The New Miner Ford, Inc.
3134 Anderson's Gulf
Bounty on 21 pairs gopher feet
Gas for Sunrise Park
Parts for shop repair
General supplies- -signs
Black dirt & rental of dirt packer
Blading: May-408.00; June-492.00
Motor fuels for roads
Parts for shop repair
Gravel for roads & Mix
Recharge of fire extinguisher
Supplies for float
Supplies for float
Village Hall service
Parks service
Street lights R&B
Motor fuels for police
Motor fuels for parks
Motor fuels ' for roads
Janitor's supplies
Parks supplies
Shop supplies R&B
Tires & clamp for Fire
Parks general supplies
Shop general supplies R&B
Float supplies CD
Lumber and posts for roads
Float supplies CD
June payroll deductions
June Village contributions
Parts for shop repair
Repair'of tires -nd motor fuels
OPP
Minutes approved at the meeting of July 27, 1970
AOr
Clerk- Treasurer
$ 5.25
$21.30
9.33
142.50
32.00
900.00
21.05
30.58
225.32
9.50
238.83
7.25
32.47
9.88
131.70
49.00
27.34
41.28
.79
5.54
6.61
48.30
1.47
.45
6.0
35.20
13.82
III
117.70
181.66
10.61
13.80
The special meeting of the Lino Lakes Village Council held on July 21, 1970, was
called to order at 8:26 p.m. by Mayor L'Allier with members Jaworski, Rosengren and
Bohjanen present, Cardinal absent. Also present were the following members of the
Building Committee: John McLean, Glenn Rehbein, Roy Backlin and Ken Miller, as
well as Art Hagen of Mattson Building & Supply Co.
Mr. Bohjanen moved to waive the notices of this meeting. Seconded by Mr. Rosengren.
Carried unanimously.
Mr. L'Allier stated that the purpose of the meeting was to go over the exceptions
and variations to the original building specifications. He mentioned the matter
of the insulation which has been gone into extensively already. W. L'Allier then
broached the subject of the ceiling liner. Mr. Hagen stated that he had not
gotten the breakdown of putting in 3" insulation without the liner since he felt
sure that we would go with the 8 ". He stated that the 8" insulation was of
2 -1/4# density and that no facing would hold this weight in place which is why
they use the ceiling liner to lay it on. Those present felt that the facing on
the 3" insulation could be easily punctured thus losing the vapor barrier.
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