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The regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Village Council held on March
8,1971 was called to order at 8:02 by Mayor L'Allier, with all membes
present except Mr. Rosengren who arrived late. A capacity crowd was
in attendance.
A letter from Commiasionew Burman congratulating us on our new Hall
was read. A letter from the Metro Sewer Board was left to be dis-
cussed under Mr. Gotwald's report.
Mr. Cardinal moved to release the bond for Marvin Rehbein Contracting
for a borrow pit on the Lloyd Erickson farm. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski.
Carried unanimously.
Mr. Jaworski moved to authorize the renewal of the following sign permits
providing they meet the approval of the Engineer and ,the Building Inspector:
Meyer Sign Service, No. A,B,&C; Naegele Outdoor Advertising, No. D,E,F,&G.
(these are all freway signs). Seconded by Mr. Bohjanen. Carried Unanimously.
Mr. Cardinal reported that the Council and the Personnel Commission had met
on the recommendations for a full -time man. He had received additional
information from 3 other villages and expected to receive more from 2 others.
Mr. L'Allier asked the other CoUncil members to contact other sources for
similar information. it was decided that the Council would discuss the
matter further at a meeting on Tuesday, March 16th at 8:00 P.M. The Clerk
was asked to run off copies of this material for the members prior to the
meeting. Mr. L'Allier noted that the Council had budgeted for a full -time
man this year, and that the Personnel Commission had recommended hiring one,
possibly, two full -time men.
Mr. Cardinal stated that the Personnel Commission had met following the
session with the Council and had requested that they be made inactive, as of
now subject to recall later if they were needed. This was agreeable; Mr.
L'Allier asked that letter of thanks be sent to the Personnel Commission
members for their services.
Mr. Jaworski had no report; W. Rosengren had not yet arrived; Mr. Bohjanen
had no report.
Mr. L'Allier read the police report for February as follows: 2,300.2 miles
drived, 207 business and home checks, 20 complaints (snowmobile), 10 assists
to/by other departments, 11 accidents including 1 snowmobile accident, 6
assists to motorist, 6,thefts amounting to $4,980, 3,esca_ees returned to
the Youth Center taking 1/2 hour. Mn.. L'Allier noted that the Clerk had
nearly finished the tabulation of the time spent by the Police Department
at the Youth Center in 1969 and 1970 and the compensation report on behalf
of the Council to the Legislature, through Rep. Vern Plaisance and Sen.
Stan Thorup. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried unanimously.
Mr. L'Allier moved that we pass a resolution that Lino Lakes go on record
favoring House File #965 which would tax all mobile homes as real property
as well as require a $3 annual registration not being completed until the taxes
were paid. Mr. Rosengren arrived. There was some discussion with Mr.
L'Allier noting that the bill was sponsered by the League. Seconded by
Mr. Jaworski. Carried unanimously.
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Mr. L'Allier offered a motion to pass a resolution favoring House File
'934 concerning split liquor, and which is endorsed by the County,Ass'n.
He noted that this didn't directly concern Lino Lakes, but that it would
permit private on -sale liquor licenses in a municipality having municipal
liquor would eliminate the mandatory phase -out of private on -sale
licenses, and would increase the number of private on -sale licenses.
Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried unanimously. Mr. L'Allier asked that
these resolutions be transmited to all County Legislators.
Mr. L'Allier stated that he had requested that the County Assn go on
record favoring the legislative bills and proposals which the Council had
favored at the previous meeting the Youth Center. He passed around a
booklet on the proposed Secure Treatment facility for juvenile boys which
has been recommended to be built at St. Cloud. Mr. L'Allier mentioned
that $60,000 had been allocated for the study of such a facility, this
booklet being the result of that study. Hopefully, some $4.7 million
will be appropriated to build it. The Association had favored this facility
and had also favored housing girls in the Red Wing facility. If this is
done, it will relieve some of the pressure in the co-ed Lino facility.
The Association had also favored House File. #377,concerning persons
breaking into such facilities. Another bill which the Association had
favored would provide community correctional center or half -way homes
for juveniles.
Mr. Gotwald mentioned the letter from the Metro Sewer Board, stating that
it was one of many exchanged concerning the cose allocations. This
letter definitely stated that a portion of the charges is for planning.
So far we have received no official notice that they have done any planning
for the Lino Lakes interceptor or that it is included in the Metro Council
budget. W. Gotwald has arranged to meet with the Fiscal Agent on financing
of the laterals and the interceptor, He didn't feel there should be any
charges for flow in 1971 even of Jandric has 1 or 2 houses to connect. Mr.
Cardinal moved, on Mr. Gotwald's recommendation, that this matter be tabled
until we receive officail notice of any planning or budget allocation for
the interceptor. Seconded by Mr. Rosengren. Carried unanimously.
A letter from the Walter Bulter Company requesting information on future
sewer service to the area of the Youth Center was read. Mr. Gotwald
recommended that we inform them that we have no immediate plan to construct
service to the Youth Cernter, that we have received no request from
residents in the area to construct sewers, and that we have no way to give
them the requested information. Mr. Gotwald noted that if we planned to run
service up there in two years that Butler would let the plant at the Youth
Center go as is until they could hook up. However, if we planned to run the
lines in 5 years, then they would up -grade the plant at the Youth Center.
Mr. Gotwald stated that if the people in that area wanted sewer, we could
go right ahead since we have capacity in the interceptor at the Blaine
hook -up. Mr. Rosengren moved to correspond with the Walter Butler Co.
as recommended by Mr. Gotwald. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried unanimously.
Mr. Rosengren had no report.
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Mr. Locher reported that he had called Mr. G. J. O'Brien of the North
Central Public Service Company and had received a letter from him dated
Feb. 18th, which he -read. Mr. O'Brien had stated that the company had
instituted a 4% increase effective Dec. of 1970, but that the supplier had
raised the gas rates so that the total increase was in excess of 4 %; The
company's 4% increase in the winter amounts to 5 -6 %, with less increase in
the summer, averaging 4% for the year. The gas bills in February reflect
the 4% increase, the rate adjustment and the extra amount for the overall 4%
yearly increase. W. Locher stated that the supplier's increase was some
1.7 %. Mr. Jaworski stated that he would like to argue that raise since he
felt there had been a 12% increase; also, he could supply proof to take to
the company. Mr. L'Allier suggested that Mr. Jaworski get togeather with
Mr. Blaylock to compare increases in North Central's rated with that of Circle
Pines Utilities.
Mr. Locher stated that he had talked with Larry Shaw at the P.C.A., and that
they have no objections at this point to our not having adopted a burning
ban since we are working on it. If there are less than 200 people per
section of land, that section can be excluded from the ban, Mr. Gotwald
stated that he hasn't had a chance to go over the aerial photos with the
Council yet. Mr. Locher had a set of 1965 aerials to leave; newer ones would
have to be purchased. Mr. L'Allier instructed the Building Inspector and the
Assessor to determine the number of houses (new)since the aerials were made.
The date of March 23rd was set to discuss the open spaces to be excluded.
Mr. L'Allier informed the audience that they could still burn garbage.
Mr. Locher commented that auto's, etc., could no longer be burned.
Mr. Locher stated that he had met with Mr. Gotwald and Mr. VanHousen on the
comprehensive zoning plan, but there was some work to do yet. He felt that
the industrial and commercial area should be gone into thoroughly, and
suggested that a joint meeting with the P&Z be held on this. He noted that
there were the questions on the Metro Airport and the. Metro Park, he could
not recommend passage of the plan, yet. Mr. L'Allier noted that the Planner
had indicated that he would attend the next Council meeting.
The clerk reported that both applicants for the Deputy Clerk's position
had asked to be removed from consideration since one would be receiving a
baby for adoption and the other had gone back to work at her old job. After
discussion, Mr. L'Allier moved that Mrs. Sarner, Assessor, be hired as the
Deputy Clerk until a Deputy is found, if she is able to handle this with
her other duties, and that we re- advertise in a few weeks; also that Mr.
Locher finds that there is no legal objection. Seconded by Mr. Bohjanen.
Carried unanimoulsy. Mr. Cardinal suggested that if Mrs. Sarner is to take
the next P&Z meeting, a letter of thanks be sent to Kay Olson.
Mr. Jaworski stated that the committee on municipal license fees would meet
tomorrow and would consider the licensing of rubbish haulers. Mr. Jaworski
moved that the matter of adopting the PCA ordinances on burning. etc., be
tabled. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried unanimously. The Clerk will
mail copies of the Lexington ordinances to Council Members.
No new business was proposed.
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Mr. L'Allier noted that many of the people present were here to find
out the status on the proposed Metro Park. He stated that we had known for
a year or longer that the Metro Park Board was interested in our area for
a park, that we didn't know exactly where it would be, but that we now
know where they want it. Mr. L'Allier stated that the Council had gone
on record opposing any Metro Park in Lino Lakes until the Legislature can
provide for compensation of tax revenue for the lands taken. He noted
that a bill had been drafted that would provide compensation for 10 years
depending on the County's Assessment of the lands involved each year.
Another bill, proposed by the Metro Council would reimburse municipalities
for up to 5 years.
Mr. L'Allier noted that the maps had been provided just before the Open
House, and were the result of studies by a private group. He stated that the
Metro Park Board doesn't yet have the power of eminent domain, but a
bill in the Legislature would give them power of condemnation. Mr. L'Allier
stated that the Council didn't feel the proposal should be turned down
completely, but neither did they wish to allow all of the land to go into
it. He mentioned that at the neeting in January when the Metro people
had presented the proposal, that they wished to work with us on this, rather
than force the proposal on us.
Mr. L'Allier stated that the Council feels that the high land on the east
side of the lakes should not be included in the park, nor that on the south
side; also, exclude the 4th corner of the intersection of I35W and Old Hwy 8;
the land along Highway 8 should be excluded since it is our best commercial
land. He stated that at the last council meeting we had requested the
Planner, the Chairman of the Park Board to meet with the County and the Metro
Council staff on the on the proposal further.
Mr. L'Allier stated that Lino Lakes does have some undevelopable area and that
we should lay out this area that could go into the park. This will discussed
before a decision is made. We should be assured of reasonable compensation
first and if there isn't reasonable compensation then we should oppose any
type of park.
Mr. L'Allier stated that the Council would answer questions from the audience,
preferably Lino Lakes citizens first.
Mr. John Popham asked *bather the Mayor meant that if there no compensation
there would be no parks in Lino Lakes. Mr. L'Allier stated, "NO ". Lino
Lakes is very concerned with park land. He showed various areas on the map
where there are Village parks, noting that the voters had turned down a park
on the east side of the Village at the last election.
Mr. Popham asked how they would compute the tax compensation. Mr. L'Allier
answered that it would be based on the taxes at the time the land was made
into a park, and if the bill passed this would be re- assessed every year for
10 years. Mr. Popham asked who would reimburse us. Mr. L'Allier stated that
the State would, however, there have been a lot of objections from out of
area legislators and from metroplitan legislators out of Anoka County who
feel that schools and hospitals should be compensated for likewise.
Don Marier noted that as of 2 P.M. today, they cannot agree how the taxes are
to be compensated for. There was some discussion on the proposed bills.
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Clarence Johnson of the U of M, an official of the Wildlife Dept. stated that
he had talked with Mr. VanHousen and the Conservation Dept., and that
he had received the impression that the area on the map was the only
area under condideration. Mr. L'Allier noted that if we decided we
wanted the perk on some of the lands in that area,wey would indicate hands
off certain portions of the area. W. Johnson noted that Mr. VanHousen
feels that by putting this area into parks we would raise the value of
surrounding land; also, he feels that VanHousen isn't aware of how the
Council feels about omitting some of the area. Mr. L'Allier stated that this
was not true, that he had talked with Mr. VanHousen, we held meetings with
him, also given him a charge to come up with details for presentation
to the Metro people.
Marcel Rivard inquired whether this park was only in Anoka County. Mr.
L'Allier stated, "Yes ", that the Metro Parks Board had a charge to come
up with several areas for parks, but this was only in Anoka County. Mr.
L'Allier also noted that we are conservation- minded, but birds don't pay
taxes.
Mr. Gotwald replied to a question that the 6700 acres being considered was
about 1/4 of the 23,000 acres in Lino Lakes. He stated that the area included
about 4500 acres total(including water) that was not developable. Also, of the
remaining land in the Village a considerable amount was owned by the State,
etc., and could not be developed. Someone asked how close to the West
side of Centerville Lake the park went and was told that it went right
up to the lake but this was one area we would want deleted.
Mr. Al Ross commented that the long -range plans included the whole Rice
Creek chain. Jerry Boyd inquired whether the Rondeau Lake area was included
and was told that 35W was the boundary.
A lady asked what happens to the homes in the area. Mr. Jaworski replied
that if the Park Board needed the property right away they would buy out
the owner. If not, they would allow the people to live in the home the
rest of their life. She asked if the State would give market value for the
homes. Mr. Locher explained how just compensation under eminent domain
was arrived at. Mr. Jaworski commented that they won't chase anyone out
right away. It may take 20 years to develop the park and will be done in
phases.
Mr. L'Allier noted that the very existence of the Metro Park Board's
legality was in question. He stated that of the 2 million dollars appropriated
for them out of the 1c/ gas tax, they only had 1/2 million left. He mentioned
the various bills again, and noted that if the park is allowed, we must de-
cide what the tax income from that property taken is worth.
There,were a few more comments and discussion. Mr. Rosengren inquired
whether other entities besides the Village, County and Metro had to meet
on this. W. L'Allier noted that the County seemed to be waiting for the
Metro to do something, and vice versa. We had received nothing definite
from the County only vague thoughts, but we want their input. It seems
that the County doesn't wish to spend any money on parks of the Metro is
.going to take it over. Mr. L'Allier noted that we can help keep the Metro
in control by taking action ourselves.
Jim Bernier asked when they would try to finalize the boundaries. Mr.
L'Allier stated that they hoped to in 30 days while the Legislature is
still in session. A man from Columbus asked what policing control there
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would be for neighboring_ villages. Mr. L'Allier stated that eve were told
they would contract; the park policing from either the neighboring municipalities
or the county.
The bills were audited, Mr. Bohjanen noted that a tex- exempt No. was needed
on the bills to Cy's Mens Wear. Mr. Bohjanen moved to pay the bills as
audited. Mr. Jaworski seconded. Carried unanimously.
Mr. Cardinal noted that he had been checking the bills for some time and had
come to the conclusion that we had spent too much time and money on the Ford
tractor and that this should cease. Mr. Rosengren stated that we should have
to replace it with something; he felt it was worth $1200. Mr. Jaworski felt
we should sell it. Discussion continued on this subject.
Mr, L'Allier moved to authorize Mr. Myhre to attend another advanced Care
Course at a cost of some $25.00. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried unanimously.
There was more discussion on purchase of a tractor, with both Mr. Jaworski
and Mr. Rosengren feeling that we,should get something with sufficient
power to handle a snowblower and a large mower.
Mr. Bohjanen moved to adjourn at 9:23 P.M. Seconde 1 Mr. Jawors•'. Aye
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The regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Village Council held on March 22, 1971 was
called to order at 8:04 P.M. by Mayor L'Allier with all members present.
The minutes of the special March 15th meeting on specifications for a full time
man were not considered since the meeting had been informal.
The Clerk reported that $1,250 had been received from exempt personal property tax.
She presented the renewal application for sign permit No. D1 from Brede, Inc.
noting that this was the sign which had been discussed at the last P&Z meeting.
Mr. Bratland of the company had indicated on the phone that they had received
permission from the State Highway Dept. to use a gate in the freeway fence in
order to erect the sign.
A letter from the County Auditor's office stated that the Board of Commissioners
had approved the sale of the four parcels of land which the Village had requested
prior to the tax sale last summer. The total charge would be $44.20 if all par-
cels were placed on one deed or $53.20 if they were placed on 4 separate deeds.
After discussion Mr. Bohjanen moved to proceed with the purchase of the following
parcels: Lots 8,9,&10 of Block 3, Nordin Manor, and Parcel #4650 of Section 15,
for park and playground purposes or as, per the Engineer's recommendation, a
ponding area, if necessary; with the four parcels to be placed on one deed.
Seconded by Mr. L'Allier. Carried unanimously.
Copies of a letter from Joseph Cook to the Metropolitan Sewer Board regarding
Lino Lakes' sewer assessment charges were passe&around.. Mr..LIA11ier noted that
Council had gone on record that we would not pay the assessment if there were no
flowage. Mr. Cook had asked the Sewer Board to drop the charges for Lino Lakes
in 1971 since there would be no flowage. He will let Mr. L'Allier know if we
need to testify at the hearing concerning this.