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BILLS: June 9, 1969
2448 State Treasurer, PERA
2448 State Treasurer, PERA
2449 Centennial State Bank
2450 First State Bank of N. Brighton
2451 James M. Ray Insurance
2452 Bruce Fleming
2453 St. Paul Book & Stationery
2454 Anoka County Union & Shopper
2455 Babcock, Locher, Neilson, etc.
2456 City of Blaine
2457 Northern States Power Company
2458 North Central
2459 Jellison's Auto Wrecking
2460 Barbara Peters
2461 Tom Hagen
2462 Mark Dzieweczynski
2463 James Cardinal
2464 Greg Cardinal
2465 Mrs. Stanley Bergerson
2466 Elmer LaMotte
Employee deductions $ 71.84
Village contributions 114.41
Federal deductions for May 160.20
Interest coupons #4K -6K 52.50
Comprehensive policy, typewriter
734.83
117.00
38.05
62.70
226.93
9.25
114.09
5.63
32.00
5.50
1.25
10.00
5.50
6.75
23.00
19.00
Animal control for May
Council supplies
Printing
Legal services
National Building Code
Hall, streets, parks
Gas for Lino Park
Parts for CD float
Gopher bounty
Gopher bounty
Gopher bounty
Gopher bounty
Gopher bounty
Gopher bounty
Gopher bounty
Minutes approved at the meeting of June 23, 1969
Clikrk- Treasurer
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The special meeting of the Lino Lakes Village Council held on June 12, 1969 was
called to order at 8:18 p.m. by Mayor L'Allier with all Council members present
except Mr. Rosengren. Also in attendance were several of the Planning and Zoning
Commission as well as Mr. Gotwald, Engineer, and Mr. Donald Carley of Carley. Engrg.
Mr. Cardinal made a motion to waive the requirements of prior written notice for
the special meeting. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried.
The meeting was called for the purpose of hearing Supplement No. 2, Sanitary Sewer
Report for Lino Lakes, dated 1969, which conerns the trunk line to be run to
Centerville.
Mr. Don Carley presented the Supplement along with a large map showing in colors
the sewer lines which are proposed for the Village. This supplement deals mainly
with the line shown in green on the map, but estimates are also given for the blue
line coming from Lexington Ave. and County Rd. J. He stated that the 1963 report
had shown the general layout of sewerage area to be served. The 1967 Supplement
No. 1 had dealt with the lines shown in red and blue. The line now shown in green,
to run from Baldwin Lake (east side) to Centerville, is a main interceptor and
would pass the Jandric project. The Supplement No. 2 did not deal with financing
as this was covered in Number 1.
Mr. Carley read the conlcusions and recommendations listed in Supplement No. 2:
1) A Metropolitan Council has been formed which has the power of approval
over all such projects as described in this report.
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2) A Metropolitan Sanitary' sewer bill has been passed by the Legislature
setting up a sewer board that will take ownership of all inter - community sewers.
3) A development corporation has purchased approximately 1000 acres sur-
rounding Reshanau Lake and have begun construction on about 600 homes. These
homes and other buildings will definitely need Municipal sewer in the near future.
4) We would recommend, therefore, that the Village of Lino Lakes begin now
to plan for construction of this interceptor and to investigate all possible sources
of Federal Aid to assist in financing the project.
Die also mentioned that the interest rate has recently gone up as well as construc-
tion rates, which have risen 35 -40% in the last year.
The last page of the supplement gave the following estimated costs:
Main Interceptor (from Supplement No. 1)
(Revised)
East side Interceptor to Birch St. East of
Reshanau Lake
East side Interceptor from East of Reshanau Lake
to Centerville
$ 702,598.00
383,358.00
465,317.00
Contingency - 10%
Engineering - Plans &
Spec. - 5%
Staking & "'.Inspection 5%
Legal - 2%
Administrative - 1%
TOTAL COST
DEDUCT CENTERVILLE
$1,551,273.00
155,000.00
85,000.00
85,000.00
34,000.00
17,000.00
$1,927,000.98
571,000.00
$1,356,000.00
The old cost of the Main to run from Lexington to Baldwin Lake Road (5500 feet)
had originally been estimated to cost $215,633; this cost was now estimated at
$290,000 for this stretch.
Mr. Carley stated that no one knows much about the new law (Metro Bill), but
that by Jan. 1, 1971, the Metro Sewer Board would take over all the existing sewer
districts. All sewer agreements would end then. The cost of the take -over will
be calculated for each -community and assessed to them.
Mr. L'Allier asked whether, if we had joined NSSSD, would we now have to pay twice
for hook -up charges. Mr. Carley stated that credit for existing lines would be
traded in on the assessment.
Mr. Jaworski asked if the Metro Sewer Board has to hook up if they are asked by
a community. It would seem so; perhaps a special assessment would be worked out.
The Metro Sewer Board would only be responsible for the main trunk lines. Communi-
ties further out from the core cities won't have to pay more than any of the
others.
Mr. Kelling asked whether the whole community would pay for the interceptor first
and this later be assessed to the individual. Mr. Carley replied that the Board
would add up the total seven - county system cost and divide this between all the
communities served depending on the amount of flow for each. The bill could be
placed on individual assessemnt or on taxes.
Mr. Jaworski asked whether this means that even those who don't hook up have to
pay. Mr. L'Allier replied that the individual only pays when he ib'oks up.
Mr. Carley mentioned that there will be relatively few deferred payments, as the
other communities have to pick up the tab.
Mr. Bohjanen asked when we could anticipate the titling on the assessment.
Mr. Carley replied that it takes effect Jan. 1, 1971. The bill does provide that
after Jan. 1, 1970, the Board assume ownership cf the interceptors and treatment
works, but that they have lots of homework and arithmetic to do before that time.
He estimated that it would be closer to 4 - -5 years before the Board would do any
building of lines. When the plan for cost - sharing is developed, then a hearing
will be called. It is likely that not all will agree and that time will be spent
in court.
Mr. Carley stated that acquirement of unused capacity in the line could be deferred
repayable as the Board shall specify at the municipal bond interest rate outstanding
at the time of the purchase. At such time that a deferred payment is paid up, then
the cost to all other communities will drop.
Mr. Bohjanen asked whether there would be payments for sewer before the sewer came
in - -that is enough to amount to anything. There would be some for laterals.
Mr. L'Allier questioned the legality of assessing those communities composed mainly
of raw land for the sewers when they would receive no direct benefit or eaten indirect
benefits. Mr. Bohjanen stated that it had been estimated that it would be the
year 2000 before there would be sewer in Washington County. The use of 2 1/2 and
5 -acre lot developments makes it hard to assess since the amounts will be so high
per owner.
Mr. Gotwald mentioned that the change in the blue line on the map (cross- county)
had been changed to a green line running along Birch Street. After studying the
profile, this route seemed more feasible since the depth was not too great and there
would be no easements to obtain. At Seventh Avenue the line would be five feet
higher than the low point of Jandric's development, so that at least one lift
station would be necessary.
Mr. Kelling commented that the trunk lines would benefit the whole Village and would
raise the valuation of Lino Lakes.
In discussion it was pointed out that it would not be practical to drain the Jandric
project into the line which will run from White Bear to Forest Lake; besides that,
Metro Council has decided that we shall use the NSSSD interceptor. The capacity
which has been allowed for Forest Lake in the line from White Bear is only good
for 30 years- -the line hadn't been designed for their use and the capacity is
"borrowed ". Mr. Carley stated that Metro Council has given the go -ahead for the
line to be built from White Bear to Forest Lake and that these communities involved
will be reimbursed for their costs when the take -over occurs. Oneka is interested
in sewers now. The line is running out of capacity so that line could not join
it - -it is possible that the property east of the freeway could drain into it.
Mr. Gotwald stated that both Hugo and Forest Lake have definitely joined for line
capacity.
Mr. Husnik asked why there were two lines running north going under the freeway.
This will be simpler than constructing a much larger interceptor and having to
tunnel. The areas enclosed in the black lines were areas which would have to be
pumped since they are so low. The Youth Center will have to pay its share in the
lines too.
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The figures listed in the supplement No. 2 are strictly raw figures for construction
and show no grants, etc. Centerville would have to eventually pay for the oversized
line necessary to carry their effluent. The cost of Centerville's share hasn't
been figured.
Mr. Bohjanen asked if a Federal grant would be a joint venture between the two
villages and was told that only one village doing construction could get a grant.
The Federal grants have been for approximately 30% of the total cost.
By running the line along Birch Street they would have to go no deeper than 20'
and any easements which might be needed could be gotton for nominal sum from the
St. Paul Water Dept. aside from necessary working road easement. The line thru
White Bear Lake will have to be 75' deep in spots.
Mr. Carley stated that it cost as much to operate one lift station as for 10 miles
of gravity line. Also, there is no maintenance on a gravity line, but a lift
station must be checked daily.
There was a question on hooking up with the line on North Road. This would be a
temporary measure only to serve the Lakeview area and north past the Youth Center.
When the line went on Highway 8, then the area would hook up to that. This will
probably occur about the time of ultimate development.
The average life of a lift station is estimated at 15 years. Some go much longer
but the pumps need to be replaced after 15 years.
There was some discussion on ways to tax Jandric for its share of the main line.
Mr. Bohjanen asked if the Village couldn't be divided up into districts, each
taxed separately for the main lines. This is feasible.
If NSSSD should bring the main line from Lexington and J up to Highway 49, then
we can knock off $290,000 of the costs.
There was discussion of the assessments of the whole east area of the Village if
the line were to be brought as far as Jandric. Mr. L'Allier wondered, if we put
in municipal sewer, how long would it be until Jandric would hook up. Mr. Car-
ley estimated that with bonding, construction, etc. it would be 2 to 2 1/2 years
before Jandric could hook up. It would be better to allow 2 winters for construc-
tion -- prices would be some better in the winter too.
Mr. L'Allier asked Mr. Carley's opinion on the possible contamination of the lakes;
if Jandric were allowed to put in private sewers and well. Mr. Carley thought that
it would be noticeable immediately, and that contamination would be definite in 5
years. Mr. L'Allier then asked about Jandric putting in his own central system.
Mr. Carley didn't think that the Pollution Commission would even grant Jandric
permission to build a plant after the way they had turned down Forest Lake. They
are insisting on 100% pure effluent or none at all. Forest Lake had promised this,
but were still turned down. Because of seepage they would have had to build a
new plant in 15 years.
Mr. McLean asked if it wouldn't be cheaper if Jandric contributed the amount of
the cost of consturction of the plant toward the main line and charge this back
to the house - buyers. Mr. Bohjanen thought that it could be stated in their deeds
that they would have to pay for the trunk line.
The Council asked whether the assessment cost per lot or acre had been worked
out. No.
Mr. Carley mentioned that the Metro - Council has more pressing areas west of the
cities than us to worry about. They do have the power to make Centerville hook
up if we put in the line.
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Mr. Carley gave three formulas for assessment: 100% assessment for all interceptors;
some assessed for the main in an area plus assessment for those abutting a lateral
and the rest on general taxes; or with 30% in Federal grants, the balance assessed
to area served (as above). He suggested placing some of the assessment on general
taxes and putting the payment on a 30 year bond with the larger payments at the
end of that time so that a larger population would keep the individual cost down.
He suggested a low mill rate of perhaps 10 mills.
The Village actually has to pay for the line first since no money comes from the
taxpayers until they are hooked up. The estimated cost of the Jandric plant for a
minimum size would be $150,000. Mr. Gotwald stated that the cost of Supplement
No. 2 would be $1000, $700 for Lino Lakes and $300 for Centerville. They would pay
their share when the Supplement is presented to them. Centerville would not have to
pay immediately for the line to be run that far, but would later.
Mr. Cardinal moved to authorize the Engineer to proceed with a cost estimate for
different segments of the Village to be finished within three weeks and not to
cost more than $100. Seconded by Mr. Jaworski. Carried. The Clerk will send a
letter confirming this.
Mr. Jaworski moved to adjourn at 9:50 p.m. Seconded by Mr. Cardinal. Carried.
Minutes approved at the meeting of June 23, 1965
Ci rk- Treasurer
The special meeting of the Lino Lakes Village Council held on June 17, 1969 was
called to order at 8:12 p.m. by Mayor L'Allier with all Council members present.
Also in attendance were five members of the Planning Board, Mr. Gotwald, Mr. Locher
representatives from U. S. Lakes Development Company and many concerned landowners
surrounding Reshanau Lake.
Mr. L'Allier asked each of the Councilmen if they had received notification of this
special meeting which was called to consider the franchise request of U.S. Lakes
Development Company (hereafter called Company or Developer), All answered in the
affirmative.
Mr. L'Allier urged everyone present to be sure to register to vote before the fall
elections.
Mr. L'Allier gave background information on the development for the benefit of the
audience. He stated that Company had purchased several hundred acres of land on
Reshanau Lake and the first part of the year the Council had given preliminary ap-
proval to a plat containing about 30 acres. They had also given approval for four
model homes and one townhouse to be erected. Now the question of sewer and water
installation must be decided so the developer can proceed with plans. Mayor L'Allier
pointed out the three alternatives in sewer installation:
1) Private wells and septic tanks. This is not conceivable because of the
pollution problem of the lakes and the low land problem.
2) The Village provides them with a municipal system. The nearest main where
we could connect is located one mile West of 49 and County Road J. We are not in
a position to run a main interceptor up to the development at a cost of approximately
$1,366,000. (Some aid could come from the Federal Government for the main pipe and
about $250,000 from NSSSD.) He felt the majority of the Council was in agreement in
that they did not wish to burden the villagers who have large parcels of land with as
assessment in this amount.