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COUNCIL WORK SESSION DECEMBER 8, 1994
FACILITIES STUDY
CITY OF LINO LAKES
COUNCIL MINUTES
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MEMBERS PRESENT:
MEMBERSiABSENT
December 8, 1994
5:10 P.M.
6:20 P.M.
Reinert, 'Mettler, Elliott, B
Neal
ergeson.
Staff members present: Community Development Director, Brian
Wessel; Planning Coordinator, Mary Kay Wyland; Community
Development Secretary, Mary LaForest; City Administrator, Randy
Schumacher and Clerk -Treasurer Marilyn Anderson.
The purpose of the meeting was to discuss the Facilities Study
and present a proposal for a Town Center.
Council Member Bergeson explained that Mr. Wessel and Ms.
LaForest will be presenting a concept for a Town Center. The
presentation is only to provide information for the City Council
to think about.
A map of the City of Lino Lakes was displayed showing several
sites that have been proposed for a new City facility. The map
also indicates how many acres are available at each site. The
acreage for each site varies and final acreage requirements will
depend on how many acres are needed for the new facility.
Mr. Wessel explained that Ms. LaForest had prepared a notebook
outlining the concept for a Town Center. Ms. LaForest developed
the notebook as a presentation for a class that she is taking for
her Masters Degree in Economic Development. Mr. Wessel read
paragraph four (4) of the Introduction. "This Town Center
proposal incorporates 'Neo -traditional' planning, the return to a
more traditional Midwest design with shop front retail, lower
building profiles and a town square. This concept is one
alternative to the standard suburban strip mall that has come to
signify uncontrolled sprawl, lack of community identity and
unimaginative design. A well planned Town Center can enhance the
City's special qualities the community seeks to preserve and
provide an appealing place to visit". Mr. Wessel noted that this
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is a 1990's neighborhood concept.
Mr. Wessel referred to page three (3) of the notebook, Needs
Assessment. He noted that the proposed city hall will require
about 24,000 square feet of space and the Police Department will
require about 14,000 square feet. Mr. Wessel also noted that the
Centennial School District is looking for about 10,000 square
feet to rent/lease. Several proposals have already been
submitted to the District. Mr. Wessel explained that a growing
city like Lino Lakes will be requiring retail services and this
concept could provide these services as well as provide the best
use of land and a broad housing profile.
Mr. Wessel requested that the City Council review the information
provided in the notebook, discuss the advantages and
disadvantages of a Town Center concept and determine if a
definitive program should be prepared. He explained that he
envisioned that the program would be phased -in starting with the
construction of the City facilities. These facilities would be
the anchor for the development.
Ms. LaForest referred to the Summary on page 15 noting that Town
Center concepts have been gathering momentum in recent years as
marketing concepts and as design ideas. These projects are
usually located in suburbs and are designed to become focal
points in their communities. Some of these projects revolve
around the concept of an open air gathering place reminiscent of
the Main Street of a small town, and include street front retail,
town squares, city facilities, offices and residential uses.
They are meant to act as new downtowns for suburban ares that
evolved without such traditional cores. Ms. LaForest briefly
mentioned a Town Center concept for Buffalo Grove, Illinois,
Tualitin, Oregon and Orlando, Florida.
Ms. LaForest further explained that a Town Center plan calls for
extensive public interaction, community input and review, the use
of consultants, developers and contractors. A city interested in
using the impetus of public development to stimulate private
development should first come to a consensus on its needs and
objectives.
Although the concept is complicated to complete, strategic public
investment and concentrated marketing efforts can have a dramatic
effect on encouraging private investment.
Mayor Reinert had several questions including what would the tax
base be and how much square footage would be designated for the
public buildings. Ms. LaForest explained that this has not been
determined since only the concept is being introduced this
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evening.
Mr. Schumacher explained that he and the Financial Director. did
put figures together for a new city hall. He noted that Elk
River recently completed a new city hall at the cost of
$2,300,000.00. Space requirements for Lino Lakes would cost
approximately $4,000,000.00. This would not include the cost of
land or furnishings. Council Member Bergeson said that would
provide a building that is needed 10 years from now. The need at
this time is for approximately 34,000 square feet not including
Public Works. Total costs would be approximately $5,000,000.00.
Mayor Reinert asked how such a project would be financed. Mr.
Schumacher outlined several areas from which to pull financing
including TIF, MWCC SAC refund, and a lease/purchase situation
similar to what was used to finance the new fire station.
Mayor Reinert asked if a Town Center is a realistic project. Mr.
Schumacher said yes. A financing plan covering a 20 to 25 year
period with only interest being paid for the first several years
would not require a significant tax increase. Mayor Reinert
asked that the financing plan be outlined, and then go to the
community and sell the plan, possibly through the 20/20 project.
He felt the idea of the Town Center must grow out of the need of
the community.
Mr. Wessel also noted that the plan would need strong public
support. He felt there is a need to focus on location and
obtaining the property soon. He felt that the need for a City
facility and a Town Center could be combined and the project
completed in stages with the government facilities constructed
first.
Council Member Kuether said she liked the philosophy of a Town
Center but felt the City Council needed to take the initiative
and make it happen. She felt that many businesses would like to
be located near city hall.
Council Member Bergeson felt that the City could build another
city hall in a different location but it would only be a city
hall that would not be much different that what the City already
has.
Mr. Wessel explained that the EDAAB has been trying to put
together a plan to "kick off" commercial development and a Town
Center appears to be workable. Ms. LaForest said that the City
could use government facilities to attract businesses. This
concept would be a good marketing tool.
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Council Member Kuether asked that a scenario of the project and
the financing be completed. Further discussion involved the need
to develop a program and the need to hire consultants such as a
planner, and a real estate market consultant. Public input would
also be needed.
Council Member Bergeson reminded the City Council that a market
study was completed for the two (2) freeway intersections several
years ago. Council Member Kuether felt that the study
concentrated on what should be located at the intersections and
would not relate to this concept.
Mr. Schumacher noted that former City Planner, John Miller also
prepared a study. Mayor Reinert suggested that a survey to
determine where competition is located should also be prepared.
Council Member Bergeson felt that the City should not be involved
with commercial development and should let the private sector
take the risk.
Council Member Kuether felt a community center would draw private
development. Mr. Wessel noted the need to include "people
activity" centers.
Mayor Reinert said that much of what government does is planned
in a vacuum and felt the need to get the public involved to give
them "ownership" in the project. He suggested that groups of
proponents who see something in the concept be formed to "carry
the ball". The concept must include something that citizens
want. Ms. LaForest felt that residents would rather see the Town
Center than another K -Mart or Walmart.
Mr. Schumacher expressed concern regarding the timing explaining
that he wanted a new city hall before the Centennial School
District approaches the public with a new referendum.
Council Member Bergeson said he did not feel the need for a new
city hall in the next two (2) years but did feel the need to get
a commitment on a piece of property. Mr. Wessel said he did not
want to complicate the issue but felt the need to bring this
concept to the City Council for consideration.
Mayor Reinert asked Mr. Schumacher how soon a new city hall was
needed. Mr. Schumacher said he felt the need within the next two
(2) years. Mayor Reinert felt that the Town Center would take
more than two (2) years. Council Member Bergeson felt that both
projects could be done if the right piece of property were
secured. Mr. Wessel said he could see construction starting
within the next two (2) to three (3) years.
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Mayor Reinert suggested that a model of the Town Center be
constructed and placed in the entry of city hall so that
residents and visitors could give their opinions.
Further discussion continued around the issue of the location for
a Town Center. Council Member Kuether suggested that it be
placed north of I35W so that it would not be in direct
competition with the businesses in Circle Pines and Lexington.
Mayor Reinert suggested that a professional be hired to research
the location.
Mr. Wessel said he would formalize a program for a Town Center
and include square footage for the development. Mr. Schumacher
asked the City Council to think about the presentation this
evening. Another facilities study meeting will be scheduled
after the first of the year. Council Member Bergeson noted that
it is a "pain" to hold all of these meetings, however this issue
warrants meetings and more meetings.
The meeting was adjourned at 6:20 P.M.
These minutes were considered, corrected and approved at a
regular Council meeting held on December 19,1994.
Marilyh G. Anderson,
Vernon F. Reinert,
Clerk -Treasurer Mayor
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