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CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION APRIL 22,1998
CITY OF LINO LAKES
MINUTES
DATE April 22, 1998
TIME STARTED 5:30 P.M.
TIME ENDED 9:30 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT Bergeson, Dahl, Lyden, Neal, Sullivan
MEMBERS ABSENT None
City staff members present: City Engineer, Dave Ahrens; Parks and Recreation
Director, Rick DeGardner; Planning Coordinator, Mary Kay Wyland; Community
Development Coordinator, Mary Alice Divine; Assistant to the City Administrator,
Dan Tesch and City Clerk -Treasurer Marilyn Anderson.
DISCUSSION OF WENZEL FARMS TOWNHOMES PRIVATE STREET AND
TRAIL EASEMENTS, RICK DEGARDNER
Rick presented a memorandum dated April 20, 1998. The memorandum references a
meeting that he and Dave Ahrens held with Shirley Patterson on April 16, 1998. Ms.
Patterson is president of the Wenzel Farms Homeowners Association. At this meeting all
issues regarding the trail easements were discussed. A solution to the concerns of both the
Homeowners Association and the City was drafted. Ms. Patterson will take the
memorandum to the April 27th Homeowners Association and ask for their approval.
Chris asked that a policy be adopted that specifically states that the City will not approve
any more private streets. Dave Ahrens noted that in this case the private street is just as
much of a liability for the City as a public street because the trail easements cover the
entire street. However, because the right-of-way does not meet City street standards, he
strongly recommended that this street remain a private street. He also noted that if the
City did made the street a public street, a precedence would be set. Ms. Patterson noted
that snowplowing is the issue. At this time, the Homeowners Association does have
regulations regarding snowplowing. If the street were to become a public street, the City
would do the snowplowing and could not adhere to the Homeowners Association
snowplowing regulations.
Rick asked that the City Council approve the provisions detailed in his memorandum.
Chris said that he would be in favor of the proposed solution, however, he asked that
when Lake Drive is reconstructed, the trail be moved to the Lake Drive right-of-way. He
asked the City Engineer to make Anoka County Highway Department aware of this
concern.
IIIMs. Patterson asked that a sign be placed where pedestrians leave the trail and enter the
private street so they know that the street is private.
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If the Homeowners Association approve the items outlined in the April 20th
memorandum, the easements will be brought to the City Council for their approval. If the
Homeowners Association does not approve the resolution, the City will not pursue
additional trail easements.
DISCUSSION WITH SCOTT GOYER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF ST. PAUL
YMCA, TOWN CENTER YMCA, MARY ALICE DIVINE
Mary Alice introduced Mr. Goyer. He explained that the YMCA (the Y) was founded in
St. Paul in 1856. He gave a brief history of the Y and also briefly explained their purpose
and programs.
Mr. Goyer explained that the Y has been looking at the northern suburbs and has
discussed just how far into the suburbs the Y should go. There appeared to be an interest
in a Y for this area so a feasibility study was completed and a market study was
commissioned. The next step will be an investigation to determine how much funding can
be generated in this community, from the City, the school district and possibly Fairview
Hospital. Mr. Goyer also noted that both the St. Paul and Minneapolis Y are working
together to make this branch work. This has never been done before.
Kim noted that a survey was completed with the 20/20 project and the citizens indicated
that they wanted a community center, the full cost going to the citizens. The quality of
life survey also indicated that citizens would approve some level of funding for this type
of facility. It appears that a gathering place is needed sometime in the future.
There was discussion regarding what programs would be offered in the Y and the fee
structure for these programs. Chris said he felt a Y would be a terrific place but the
Council had many obligations. He asked that a more creative way to pay for the facility
be investigated. Chris also noted the water park in St. Louis Park and asked that Mary
Alice, Brian Wessel and Mr. Goyer visit this facility. He felt that this facility was a real
money maker and challenged Mr. Goyer to make space for such a facility.
Chris noted some other obligations the Council has to address and asked what would
happen if it took the City three (3) years to raise money for the City portion of the costs.
Mr. Goyer noted that it took the City of Burnsville nine (9) years to get its funding. Kim
felt that this City could not wait that long. This facility is needed to encourage
commercial development in the Town Center. Mary Alice also said that the City cannot
just say here are 75 acres, developers come and get it. The City has to offer some
amenities to encourage development.
Rick asked Mr. Goyer what would happen if the City offered just land and infrastructure.
Mr. Goyer said that the Y would look for alternate sites and then do another market study.
John noted that a capital campaign cannot go on forever. After the initial "big splash", not
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much happens. Mr. Goyer noted that the "me generation" expects to have what they want
immediately.
Kim summarized stating that if the City wishes to go forward with the Y, funding will
have to be available within the next 18 to 24 months. Without significant funding from
the City, the interest in a partnership will not continue. Mr. Goyer said that the Y will be
more certain of the funding within the next 30 days.
John expressed concern because the Y fee structure makes it a bit of an exclusive club
and some people would not be able to use the facility. Mr. Goyer noted that there are
programs available and some sliding fees are also available to these people.
Caroline said she had mixed feelings about the Y. She noted that a new Y was just
constructed in Brooklyn Center. Mr. Goyer explained that the Y received a very large gift
for construction of the facility.
Kim noted that this matter is not "under the gun" now. She felt it was important to let the
Y know that the Council supports the Y and the citizens support the Y and the City is
looking at additional bonding in 1999. The City will ask for consideration for investment,
such as the inclusion of a senior facility.
III Chris said he wanted to see the Y in the Town Center. He asked for a commitment for a
senior center. Mary Alice said that the senior center could be phased in.
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Kim asked how the Y would impact the current park programs. Rick said that the
building will offer a place for more programs. The City cannot maintain a community
center and the Y would offer a place to do something cooperatively or in partnership for
more programming.
Mr. Goyer said he felt this project would be very exciting. The partnership between the
St. Paul Y and the Minneapolis Y would be breaking new ground.
DISCUSSION OF MUSA FOR MOLIN CONCRETE, MARY KAY WYLAND
Mary Kay explained that Molin Concrete has petitioned for sewer service for their
facility. This property is not in the MUSA and cannot be connected until MUSA is made
available to them. Chris said he could support MUSA for this property.
DISCUSSION OF MUSA FOR THE DOUGLAS PROPERTY ON LILAC
STREET, MARY KAY WYLAND
Mary Kay explained that the septic system at the Douglas home has failed. Since sanitary
sewer service is available, the Douglas' have petitioned for connection to the system. The
Douglas property is not in the MUSA. Council approval is necessary to include the
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property in the MUSA. Chris said that he could support this request since a current
resident is asking for the service.
Kim asked staff to be very clear to take care of residents currently located along these
new utility services. If an assessment search is requested, let the title search company
know that although the services may be in the area, the property cannot be connected
since it is not located in the MUSA.
DISCUSSION OF LINO AIR PARK NORTH BUILDING PERMITS, DAVE
AHRENS
Dave explained that this matter is continued from the April 8, 1998 work session agenda.
Since April 8th, Mr. Kolstad and the Lino Air Park Association have met and have come
to an agreement to allow three (3) of the four (4) building permits to be issued. Dave
noted that Mr. Kolstad's letter of credit expires July 1,1998 and he will be monitoring the
situation and if it appears that Mr. Kolstad has not substantially completed all the work
that he has agreed to do, he will start the process of taking the letter of credit and having
the work completed. Mr. Schmelzer, a member of the Lino Air Park Association and Mr.
Kolstad were present and explained that they have tried to come to some agreement so
that they will not have to come back before Council again. Mr. Schmelzer noted that it is
in the best interest of the Lino Air Park to allow some building permits to be issued so
that Mr. Kolstad will have money to complete his work. Dave and the Lino Air Park
Association will monitor Mr. Kolstad's work. Kim said that because of the City's
responsibility with the use of escrow funds, no extension will be allowed related to
completion of the work by the contractor.
Kim asked about the provision in the agreement regarding the City providing fill dirt for
Mr. Kolstad's project. Dave explained that there may be surplus dirt off of the Ware Road
project and that fill could be used by Mr. Kolstad. There is no accountability or
responsibility for the City related to the use of the surplus dirt.
DISCUSSION OF EXCESS FUND BALANCE, DAN TESCH
Dan explained that Mary Vaske had prepared a memorandum to the City Council
regarding the excess General Fund balance. The department heads met and discussed
options for use of the excess fund balance. The consensus of the group was to fund the
following four (4) options:
1. Finance software and hardware replacement.
2. Purchase playground equipment for parks that are in dire need.
3. Transfer the dollars to the Street Reconstruction Fund.
4. Civic Center complex costs.
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Dan noted that excess fund balance is more than $300,000. Rick explained that there are
five (5) parks which need funding at about $40,000 each. He also noted that if equipment
for all four (4) parks was ordered at the same time, there would be a reduction from the
supplier and residents would be asked to help erect the equipment.
Kim noted that the computer equipment was already approved by the City Council. She
also felt that some funding for park equipment was warranted. She also felt starting a road
reconstruction fund was a good idea. This shows that the City has made a commitment
and it is a good faith issue. However, she did not feel kindly to more civic complex
funding. Kim also noted that there is funding needed for the Randy Schumacher issue.
Rick said that if the Council only funds park benches and a place for residents to go, this
would show that the Council is concerned about parks.
John suggested that the Council agree to a percentage allocation. He agreed that the
computer is a done deal, felt the street reconstruction issue was too large of an issue to
consider at this time, and wanted to be sure that there was no other financial issue that the
Council was not aware of. He said that the consensus of the Council seemed to be that
they did not want to put anymore dollars into the civic complex.
Andy said he was in favor of "sweat equity" for the parks. He noted that half of the
benches in the City parks were made and donated by the Lions Club. They can still make
and donate more benches. He felt the Council should not let go of the excess funds all at
once.
Caroline asked Rick to look at the playground constructed at a Moundsview Elementary
School. The equipment was funded and constructed by the neighborhood.
Kim said she did not think residents would be overjoyed to spend all of the fund balance
on parks. She would like to see some going to a contingency fund because the City does
not know what tax compression will do to taxes. John agreed to a contingency option.
Chris said the Lino Lakes parks are shameful. He supported 60% going to parks, $70,000
for computers and the balance into a road reconstruction fund.
The following percentages were approved:
30% computers
50% parks
10% road reconstruction
10% contingency fund
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SAC CHARGES REFUND UPDATE, DAVE AHRENS
Dave explained that Pete Kluegel is working with Lynn Francis in Finance to compile a
list of property owners who have paid SAC. The work will be completed this week. A
letter will be mailed to the residents with Kim's signature.
UPDATE, ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT SECRETARY/DEPUTY CLERK
WAGE, DAN TESCH
Dan explained that Dave Pecchia has received a request and has responded to the request
for reconsideration of salary for the Administration Department Secretary/Deputy Clerk.
This matter will be revisited after the Hay Study is completed. Council will be discussing
the Hay Study the first week in May.
DISCUSSION OF POLICY FOR CONSTRUCTION CHANGE ORDERS, DAVE
AHRENS
Dave handed out a proposed Change Order Policy. Andy said he was not in favor of any
change orders. Kim suggested that maybe someone is not careful enough. John said that
the proposed policy identifies situations where exact figures are not available until the
work is actually completed. He suggested that Dave come to Council only when the
Change Order is a major change. Kim asked that Change Orders be charted to see if there
is a problem with a consultant. Maybe enough care has not been taken when making
estimates. John noted that there have been instances when a small project is added to
another project. This should not reflect badly on the engineer. He also asked that the
consulting engineers be monitored.
DISCUSSION OF SHOREVIEW JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT, DAVE
AHRENS
Dave explained that the City approved a joint powers agreement with the City of
Shoreview in 1987 which allowed homes in Lino Lakes to be connected to the Shoreview
water and sewer facilities. A formula for funding the connections was outlined in the joint
powers agreement. Lino Lakes has not paid the connections fees and it is estimated that
the City owes Shoreview more than $250,000 in fees and more than $270,000 in
penalties. Mary Vaske has recommended that these fees be paid to Shoreview in
increments.
There was discussion regarding why these fees were not paid and penalties allowed to
accumulate. Marilyn explained that this matter was brought to the attention of the City
Administrator by herself, previous consulting engineers and Mary Vaske. The previous
City Administrator advised all staff to withhold payment until Shoreview billed the City.
John asked why this liability was not included in the City audit. Marilyn explained that
the City Administrator advised that it was not to be included in the audit. John felt that
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this was inappropriate and asked for more information on the matter. John and Andy
stated that whoever withheld this information from the Council should be reprimanded.
Dave Pecchia and Dave Ahrens will meet with the City of Shoreview on Friday and
finalize the dollar amount to be paid to Shoreview.
21ST AVENUE UPDATE, DAVE AHRENS
Dave met with Mr. Rehbein and Ms. Tschida and outlined the schedule for the
reconstruction of 21st Avenue south of Main Street to serve the new restaurant and fuel
station. They were satisfied with the time schedule. The construction will include sewer
and water service and a gravel road. Dave has prepared a joint powers agreement to be
executed by the City of Centerville and the City of Lino Lakes for the reconstruction. He
reviewed the provisions of the agreement. He noted that he will ask the City Attorney to
review the agreement before submitting it to Centerville.
Dave referred to the request from the City of Centerville to construct 21st Avenue north
of Main Street. The request would require that Lino Lakes obtain right-of-way from
Richard Schreier. Dave has not talked to Mr. Schreier yet. Centerville has suggested that
both the north and south segments of 21st Avenue be constructed at the same time.
There was discussion regarding the manner in which the City of Centerville addressed the
request from the City of Lino Lakes for a joint powers agreement for the reconstruction
of 21st Avenue south of Main Street. Kim noted that she had talked with the mayor of
Centerville and was told that they were uncomfortable about the way in which it was
presented. Dave explained that he had made the first presentation to the City of
Centerville and when it appeared that there would be some delay, Brian visited with their
Council. Kim asked that the next time the issue is discussed with the Centerville Council,
a Lino Lakes Council Member will be there.
Kim asked that Dave Pecchia contact the Centerville City Administrator and determine
exactly what is happening.
REGULAR AGENDA
Mary Alice explained Item No. 3 on the regular agenda. The City has already approved
the issuance of the bonds and the City has no obligation or liability for these bonds.
Dan asked why there is a Series A and a Series B bond. Mary Alice explained that Molin
Concrete could not get the entire funding from the State. Mary Kay explained that the
funds will pay for the expansion of facilities at Molin.
Mary Kay addressed Item No. 4C noting that a garage will be moved onto the property.
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Mary Kay addressed item No. 4D noting that nine (9) billboard signs have been requested
to be posted along 35E. The request meets all requirements of the Sign Ordinance and
they were approved by the Planning and Zoning Board. However, the approval of the
Minnesota Department of Transportation is also required and it appears that they may get
that approval.
Dan addressed 5A and 5B. Kim asked that Maurine Davidson be at the Council meeting.
Dan addressed 7A and 7B. Kim asked if Community Service Awards will be considered
this year. She asked that staff research this issue. She also asked staff and Council to
make recommendations regarding deserving citizens.
Dave addressed 6A. Bids have been received for Ware Road and he is ready to
recommend awarding the construction contract. He has met with the contractor and all
easements are in place.
Dave addressed 6B. Bids have been received for Lakes Addition Street Reconstruction.
The matter of relocating the lift station has been "set on the back burner" for now. He will
revisit this matter in the fall. All piping required for the new lift station will be placed
during the street reconstruction.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:30 p.m.
These minutes were considered, corrected and approved at a re ' ular meeting of the City
Council on May 11, 1998.
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Marilyn G. Anderson, Clerk -Treasurer
Ki er A. llivan, Mayor
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