HomeMy WebLinkAbout07/19/2000 Council Minutes (2)CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION JULY 19, 2000
CITY OF LINO LAKES
MINUTES
DATE : July 19, 2000
TIME STARTED : 5:10 p.m.
TIME ENDED : 9:20 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT : Council Member Carlson, Dahl, O'Donnell,
Reinert, and Mayor Bergeson
: None
MEMBERS ABSENT
Staff members present: Administration Director, Dan Tesch; City Engineer, John
Powell; City Planner, Jeff Smyser, Community Development Director, B •
Economic Development Assistant, Mary Divine (part); Planning Cor
Wyland (part); Finance Director, Al Roleck (part); and Fire Chie
TIF PRESENTATION FROM EHLERS & ASSOCI , ICE DIVINE
Mr. Mark Ruff, Ehlers & Associates, came forwa r
an overview of Tax Increment Financing and
in detail noting that TIF is the ability to ca
new development within a defined ge
types of TIF districts including re
ib d a handout regarding
t. He reviewed the overview
property tax revenues from
. Ruff reviewed the different
sing, and economic development.
Mr. Ruff advised the eli_i. e". nclude the following: land acquisition,
demolition and clearovements, utilities, relocation, interest on financing,
administration, s de E • `ng upon the district. Financing of TIF includes bonds,
pay-as-you-go, , _ me oans. Mr. Ruff reviewed the penalties for use of TIF in
detail includin > G • • CA loss and local match option.
Ms. Shelly Eldridge, Ehlers & Associates, came forward and reviewed each TIF district
within the City of Lino Lakes in detail. A map was distributed indicating the location of
each district.
Mr. Roleck came forward and distributed graphs regarding the use of TIF in Lino Lakes.
The graphs included information relating to the growth in tax base, % of tax base by type,
C/I tax capacity comparison, values as a % of C/I values, and Lino Lakes employment
data.
Ms. Divine came forward and reviewed the process used to determine if a business
qualifies for TIF.
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CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION
JULY 19, 2000
Mr. Ron Batty, Consultant, came forward and reviewed the following points relating to
tax abatement:
• recent alternative to TIF
• is actually a rebate
• can be used for almost any project
• commercial is a common use
• limited to 5% levy or $100,000 per year
• each jurisdiction has veto over its share
• new or existing taxes can be rebated
• maximum of 15 years (10 if all three in)
• schools are unlikely to participate
-loss of state aid means tax increase
• G.O. Abatement bonds can be utilized
Mr. Batty distributed a handout detailing information relating to tax a
ORDINANCE UPDATE, MILO BENNETT
Staff advised it has been many years since the Open
in Lino Lakes. The proposed ordinance replaces th
more detail and definition that the present ord.
or grass clippings are still prohibited under
in has been updated
ance and goes into
such as the burning of leaves
ce.
Staff advised there are some options i ay want to consider:
1. Setting a time
Centery
recreat
person can have a recreational fire.
me of day restriction and Circle Pines only allows
4:00 p.m. to 3:00 a.m.
2. ttin_ fee for Burning Permits. The Department writes about 100
p a year, with the majority of them written in Lino Lakes.
Centerville has a $30 fee and Circle Pines has a $50 fee. When these fees
were put into effect, the number of permits decreased. However, Circle
Pines does provide chipping once or twice a year for the residents.
Staff noted both Centerville and Circle Pines have adopted the ordinance that is being
proposed.
Council Member Dahl inquired about the cost involved with issuing permits. Staff
advised issuing permits involves about 15 minutes of staff time. If the Department goes
out to a residence, the cost is approximately $100.
Council Member Dahl asked if the Department has received complaints about fires in the
4:00 p.m. to 3:00 a.m. time frame. Staff advised that recreational fire complaints are
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION JULY 19, 2000
usually related to noise complaints. It seems reasonable that residents should not burn 24
hours a day. Most complaints come from residential areas.
Council Member O'Donnell advised he agrees with the 3:00 a.m. cut off, however, a start
time of 4:00 p.m. limits lunch hour fires. _
Council Member Reinert suggested 9:00 a.m. to 3:00 a.m. He stated the high fee would
stop the burning; a low fee would pay for clerical fees.
Staff advised some residents get a permit for an extended period of time. A small fee
would avoid having to reissue the permits.
Council Member Dahl suggested the time be 11:00 a.m. or noon to 3:00 a.m.
Mayor Bergeson suggested Council look at the snowmobile ordinance regarding stop
time.
It was the consensus of Council to set a time for recreational fir
a.m. and a $5.00 permit fee. Council directed staff to add t
schedule.
. to 3:00
City's fee
This item will appear on the regular Council ag d on , JuTy 24, 2000, 6:30 p.m.
ORDINANCE UPDATE, MILO BE
Staff advised every 3-4 years,
Code. When the state adopt
state.
By adopting thi
code when doi
fire losses and
communities.
e'sota adopts an updated Uniform Fire
ecomes the fire code to be used throughout the
Ives the local fire inspectors the authority to enforce the
ions. This has proven to be very beneficial in reducing the
ion of this code is a standards practice in a large number of
Mayor Bergeson inquired about the Board of appeal and why it is City specific. Staff
advised the Board of Appeal is set up in case someone does not think his interpretation of
the code is fair.
Mayor Bergeson advised the Department meets with a Board made up of all three (3)
cities. That should be the Board of Appeals. Staff advised that could be the Board of
Appeals. However, the ordinance has to be passed by all three (3) cities.
Council Member Carlson referred to the section regarding validity in the ordinance. She
stated it is confusing and the word "to" should be added. Staff advised they will look at
the addition of the word "to".
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CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION JULY 19, 2000
This item will appear on the regular Council agenda Monday, July 24, 2000, 6:30 p.m.
TOWN CENTER UPDATE, MARY ALICE DIVINE
The Community Development Director came forward and explained the Design
Standards being utilized through an ordinance as opposed to a guideline rout. He advised
the concern of EDAC is that the ordinance route is too restrictive. The process will be
discussed further at the August, 2000, EDAC meeting.
Council Member Reinert suggested incorporating both ordinances and guidelines into the
Design Standards.
The Economic Development Assistant came forward and gave a visual presentation of the
Town Center reminding the Council of the original vision of the project. It was noted
that many cities have failed at the concept of a Town Center because of the lack of
Design Standards.
Council Member Carlson asked if the developer that was at the as also
developing in Mendota Heights. Staff advised he is develo ' i n a eights.
They have a plan and are developing Design Standards.
Council Member O'Donnell stated he has hear
developments don't work in Minnesota. He,
that are successful.
be re that these types of
to see more and more here
Staff advised this is a concept t in Minnesota. As more cities do this
type of development, more d have to cooperate.
Council Member Carl a copy of the developers plan for the Village.
Council Mem. 'Rein: =d if the highway was seen as an asset when the site was
picked for the n ter. Staff advised that site was looked at as the most viable
location. The dra om the highway is needed.
Council Member Carlson noted that she read Lino Lakes is the 9th fastest growing City in
the area.
The City Planner noted that those figures are calculated as a percentage.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, BRIAN WESSEL
Staff advised they have received a series of requests from landowners regarding changes
in the land use plan relating to the Comprehensive Plan. Staff distributed a memo
regarding their requests and the process staff is pursuing in response to the requests. A
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CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION JULY 19, 2000
specific landowner will be present at the next work session to discuss his request. Staff is
requesting a special Council work session to specifically address the potential changes.
Mayor Bergeson stated discussions have been held regarding a special meeting and a
deadline on requests.
Council Member Carlson stated information from Al Brixius is needed before a meeting
can be scheduled.
Mayor Bergeson advised the meeting can be held to held details. No decision has to be
made at that meeting.
Council directed staff to schedule a Saturday meeting in August 2000, to discuss the
requested changes to the land use plan. Staff will publish the meeting and notify
residents.
WEST SHADOW PONDS BACKGROUND, JEFF SMYSER
Staff distributed a handout detailing an overview of West
explained the history of the project, project summary, ro
issues. Staff reviewed the information in detail not
forward to Council. Staff advised the develope
Council.
Mr. Rick Carlson, Developer for the
are in a hurry to move the proje
Zoning Board meeting and n
with residents relates to
Council to consider a
Mayor Berges
at this time.
"hhehandout
se, and other
ep is to bring the project
edback from the
i -wards and stated two (2) residents
issues that came up at the Planning and
eeting have been addressed. The main issue
ad connection to 62nd Street. He asked the
-de-sac until a later date.
e staff recommendation will be if it comes before Council
The City Engineer advised the staff recommendation will be to continue the road through
to 62nd Street and reconstruct 62nd Street. A temporary cul-de-sac could be utilized until
62nd Street is completed. The reconstruction of 62nd Street could occur as early as next
year. State Aid funds would be used for the project.
Council Member Carlson advised residents don't want the road to go through to 62nd
Street. The solution is to give the residents time in their rural area until that area
develops. She stated it is not significant to the developer on which end the cul-de-sac is
placed. She advised she wants to see what comes out of the neighborhood meeting
regarding 62nd Street.
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CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION JULY 19, 2000
The City Engineer advised the purpose of the meeting is to address concerns and answer
questions about road improvements on 62nd Street.
Council Member Reinert inquired if residents feel that West Shadow will eventually go
through to 62nd Street. He asked if delaying the continuation will make residents happy.
Staff advised residents don't' want the road to go through at all. They want no
development in the area. The road has been planned to go through to 62nd Street for quite
some time.
Council Member Reinert asked if the long-range plan includes West Shadow continuing
to Ash Street.
The City Engineer advised it is unlikely the road will continue to Ash Street due to
development constraints and wetlands.
Mayor Bergeson pointed out that if the City never makes north/sou
accelerate the need for a larger road on Hodgson. All the traffi
Hodgson and that causes the need for those roads to be lar
Council Member Carlson stated everyone should al
compromise. The City will eventually get the n
Council Member Reinert stated it make
as long as they can. The developer
temporary cul-de-sac.
Mayor Bergeson inquir
showing the location
temporary solutj
unsewered.
s, it will
h or
to the traffic.
r and offer a
nnection.
e residents live in a rural area for
with the project by utilizing a
ion of the cul-de-sac. Staff pointed to a map
cul-de-sac. Staff expressed concern regarding a
permanent one. Staff noted Colonial Woods is shown as
Mayor Bergeson a lot of traffic goes through this area on Hawthorne to Ware Road.
Council Member Dahl stated she thought the plan called for a lot less new homes. Staff
advised this is the 1998 plat that includes 22 single-family lots.
Mr. Carlson stated the plan originally had more lots. As the plat developed, he went with
larger lots on one side.
Council Member Dahl stated residents have expressed concern regarding the trail
placement. Staff referred to a map indicating the placement of the trail.
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CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION JULY 19, 2000
Mr. Carlson advised the trail placement was discussed at the Planning and Zoning Board
meeting and neighborhood meeting. All four (4) affected residents asked that the trail be
moved. He stated he offered to put in a buffer but moving the trail would be easier.
Mayor Bergeson suggested the trail and easement be combined.
Council Member Dahl advised she was in favor of this project with a cul-de-sac.
The City Engineer advised a cul-de-sac on the north would result in a 3/4 mile long cul-de-
sac. A cul-de-sac on the south end would result in confusion for drivers. A sign could be
put up indicating it is not a through street. Both placements are equally undesirable. He
stated he is concerned about another long cul-de-sac similar to the one in Colonial
Woods.
Mayor Bergeson stated the cul-de-sac should be put on the south end. The north end
should be constructed so the streets meet. The south end could then be when the
road continues through to 62nd Street.
Council Member Reinert inquired about a mechanism that in ale to continue
the road in the future.
The City Engineer advised he would ask for Co
factor. He added that residents who live on
continue through.
n regarding the determining
ill not want the road to
Council Member Carlson sugge a e chanism such as a time or certain number
of years.
Council Member Rei
be reconstructe
funds are avail
if the funds don't become available, 62nd Street can't
ineer advised 62nd Street is on a state aid system. The
Council Member ert stated he does not believe the residents will object to a time
frame based on future development.
Council Member Dahl requested the residents in Birchwood Acres be invited to the
neighborhood meeting.
HIGHWAY 49 PROJECT, JEFF REINERT
Council Member Reinert advised he believes the Council needs to determine what should
happen with the Highway 49 project. Once the Council makes a determination, a meeting
should be held with the two (2) involved Counties and officials from the City of
Shoreview.
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CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION JULY 19, 2000
• Mayor Bergeson suggested a letter should be sent to both Counties requesting they work
together on the project. The City of Shoreview should send a similar letter.
Mr. Jeff Heaser, resident of Lino Lakes, came forward and distributed a copy of Ramsey
County's plan for the highway. He also distributed a copy of the procedure Ramsey
County uses for this resident input regarding these types of issues. He stated the largest
part of the road is 62' from curb to curb. Turn back money is being used for the project.
Mayor Bergeson stated the plan is the same concept as County Road J.
Council Member Carlson stated a meeting with the City of Shoreview is a good idea. The
meeting should be open to the public.
The Council directed staff to contact the City officials from Shoreview to schedule a
Saturday meeting in August 2000. Staff will also schedule a time for Council to discuss
this issue before the joint meeting.
REGULAR AGENDA, JULY 24, 2000
Item 7A, PUBLIC HEARING, Resolution No. 00 — 64,
Acres 1st and 2nd Additions — An updated staff repo
update.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:20 p.m.
These minutes were considered,
August 14, 2000.
0
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de d in the Friday
roved at the regular Council meeting held on
Ry-Chel Gaust C City Clerk John Bergeson, Mayor
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CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION JULY 19, 2000
CITY OF LINO LAKES
MINUTES
DATE : July 19, 2000
TIME STARTED : 5:10 p.m.
TIME ENDED : 9:20 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT : Council Member Carlson, Dahl, O'Donnell,
Reinert, and Mayor Bergeson
: None
MEMBERS ABSENT
Staff members present: Administration Director, Dan Tesch; City Engineer, John
Powell; City Planner, Jeff Smyser, Community Development Director, B • _ essel;
Economic Development Assistant, Mary Divine (part); Planning Co • r•' .tor, r ary Kay
Wyland (part); Finance Director, Al Roleck (part); and Fire Chie (part)
TIF PRESENTATION FROM EHLERS & ASSOCI ICE DIVINE
Mr. Mark Ruff, Ehlers & Associates, came forwa r
an overview of Tax Increment Financing and
in detail noting that TIF is the ability to ca
new development within a defined ge
types of TIF districts including re
ib d a handout regarding
t. He reviewed the overview
e property tax revenues from
r. Ruff reviewed the different
sing, and economic development.
Mr. Ruff advised the elii nclude the following: land acquisition,
demolition and clear ovements, utilities, relocation, interest on financing,
administration, . • t L;„ s de d ng upon the district. Financing of TIF includes bonds,
pay-as-you-go,oans. Mr. Ruff reviewed the penalties for use of TIF in
detail includin _ G ' __ • CA loss and local match option.
Ms. Shelly Eldridge, Ehlers & Associates, came forward and reviewed each TIF district
within the City of Lino Lakes in detail. A map was distributed indicating the location of
each district.
Mr. Roleck came forward and distributed graphs regarding the use of TIF in Lino Lakes.
The graphs included information relating to the growth in tax base, % of tax base by type,
C/I tax capacity comparison, values as a % of C/I values, and Lino Lakes employment
data.
Ms. Divine came forward and reviewed the process used to determine if a business
qualifies for TIF.
1
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION JULY 19, 2000
• Mr. Ron Batty, Consultant, came forward and reviewed the following points relating to
tax abatement:
• recent alternative to TIF
• is actually a rebate -
• can be used for almost any project
• commercial is a common use
• limited to 5% levy or $100,000 per year
• each jurisdiction has veto over its share
• new or existing taxes can be rebated
• maximum of 15 years (10 if all three in)
• schools are unlikely to participate
-loss of state aid means tax increase
• G.O. Abatement bonds can be utilized
Mr. Batty distributed a handout detailing information relating to tax a
ORDINANCE UPDATE, MILO BENNETT
Staff advised it has been many years since the Open
in Lino Lakes. The proposed ordinance replaces th
more detail and definition that the present ord.
or grass clippings are still prohibited under
has been updated
ance and goes into
such as the burning of leaves
Staff advised there are some options i ay want to consider:
1. Setting a time a person can have a recreational fire.
Centery "` me of day restriction and Circle Pines only allows
recreat + . rs 4:00 p.m. to 3:00 a.m.
2. ttin: fee for Burning Permits. The Department writes about 100
p a year, with the majority of them written in Lino Lakes.
Centerville has a $30 fee and Circle Pines has a $50 fee. When these fees
were put into effect, the number of permits decreased. However, Circle
Pines does provide chipping once or twice a year for the residents.
Staff noted both Centerville and Circle Pines have adopted the ordinance that is being
proposed.
Council Member Dahl inquired about the cost involved with issuing permits. Staff
advised issuing permits involves about 15 minutes of staff time. If the Department goes
out to a residence, the cost is approximately $100.
Council Member Dahl asked if the Department has received complaints about fires in the
4:00 p.m. to 3:00 a.m. time frame. Staff advised that recreational fire complaints are
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION JULY 19, 2000
usually related to noise complaints. It seems reasonable that residents should not burn 24
hours a day. Most complaints come from residential areas.
Council Member O'Donnell advised he agrees with the 3:00 a.m. cut off, however, a start
tithe of 4:00 p.m. limits lunch hour fires.
Council Member Reinert suggested 9:00 a.m. to 3:00 a.m. He stated the high fee would
stop the burning; a low fee would pay for clerical fees.
Staff advised some residents get a permit for an extended period of time. A small fee
would avoid having to reissue the permits.
Council Member Dahl suggested the time be 11:00 a.m. or noon to 3:00 a.m.
Mayor Bergeson suggested Council look at the snowmobile ordinance regarding stop
time.
It was the consensus of Council to set a time for recreational fir
a.m. and a $5.00 permit fee. Council directed staff to add t
schedule.
n. to 3:00
City's fee
This item will appear on the regular Council ag- d on , Ju y 24, 2000, 6:30 p.m.
ORDINANCE UPDATE MILO BE
Staff advised every 3-4 years, t
Code. When the state adopt
state.
By adopting thi
code when doi
fire losses and
communities.
esota adopts an updated Uniform Fire
ecomes the fire code to be used throughout the
Ives the local fire inspectors the authority to enforce the
ions. This has proven to be very beneficial in reducing the
ion of this code is a standards practice in a large number of
Mayor Bergeson inquired about the Board of appeal and why it is City specific. Staff
advised the Board of Appeal is set up in case someone does not think his interpretation of
the code is fair.
Mayor Bergeson advised the Department meets with a Board made up of all three (3)
cities. That should be the Board of Appeals. Staff advised that could be the Board of
Appeals. However, the ordinance has to be passed by all three (3) cities.
Council Member Carlson referred to the section regarding validity in the ordinance. She
stated it is confusing and the word "to" should be added. Staff advised they will look at
the addition of the word "to".
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•
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION JULY 19, 2000
This item will appear on the regular Council agenda Monday, July 24, 2000, 6:30 p.m.
TOWN CENTER UPDATE, MARY ALICE DIVINE
The Community Development Director came forward and explained the Design
Standards being utilized through an ordinance as opposed to a guideline rout. He advised
the concern of EDAC is that the ordinance route is too restrictive. The process will be
discussed further at the August, 2000, EDAC meeting.
Council Member Reinert suggested incorporating both ordinances and guidelines into the
Design Standards.
The Economic Development Assistant came forward and gave a visual presentation of the
Town Center reminding the Council of the original vision of the project. It was noted
that many cities have failed at the concept of a Town Center because of the lack of
Design Standards.
Council Member Carlson asked if the developer that was at the was also
developing in Mendota Heights. Staff advised he is develo ' i n a eights.
They have a plan and are developing Design Standards.
Council Member O'Donnell stated he has hear
developments don't work in Minnesota. He
that are successful.
be re that these types of
to see more and more here
Staff advised this is a concept t n in Minnesota. As more cities do this
type of development, more d • •,. have to cooperate.
Council Member Carl :.•�,: s'� a copy of the developers plan for the Village.
Council Mem. ; ;' Rei .. " d if the highway was seen as an asset when the site was
picked for the t. n 'Ear, ter. Staff advised that site was looked at as the most viable
location. The draom the highway is needed.
Council Member Carlson noted that she read Lino Lakes is the 9`" fastest growing City in
the area.
The City Planner noted that those figures are calculated as a percentage.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, BRIAN WESSEL
Staff advised they have received a series of requests from landowners regarding changes
in the land use plan relating to the Comprehensive Plan. Staff distributed a memo
regarding their requests and the process staff is pursuing in response to the requests. A
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION JULY 19, 2000
specific landowner will be present at the next work session to discuss his request. Staff is
requesting a special Council work session to specifically address the potential changes.
Mayor Bergeson stated discussions have been held regarding a special meeting and a
deadline on requests.
Council Member Carlson stated information from Al Brixius is needed before a meeting
can be scheduled.
Mayor Bergeson advised the meeting can be held to held details. No decision has to be
made at that meeting.
Council directed staff to schedule a Saturday meeting in August 2000, to discuss the
requested changes to the land use plan. Staff will publish the meeting and notify
residents.
WEST SHADOW PONDS BACKGROUND, JEFF SMYSER
Staff distributed a handout detailing an overview of West S e handout
explained the history of the project, project summary, ro yes, se, and other
issues. Staff reviewed the information in detail noti ne ep is to bring the project
forward to Council. Staff advised the developers kin r f-edback from the
Council.
Mr. Rick Carlson, Developer for the c rwards and stated two (2) residents
are in a hurry to move the proje ��_� issues that came up at the Planning and
Zoning Board meeting and n •_ a • • , eeting have been addressed. The main issue
with residents relates to ,; ct>• ad connection to 62nd Street. He asked the
Council to consider a -de -sac until a later date.
Mayor Berges
at this time.
e staff recommendation will be if it comes before Council
The City Engineer advised the staff recommendation will be to continue the road through
to 62nd Street and reconstruct 62nd Street. A temporary cul-de-sac could be utilized until
62nd Street is completed. The reconstruction of 62nd Street could occur as early as next
year. State Aid funds would be used for the project.
Council Member Carlson advised residents don't want the road to go through to 62nd
Street. The solution is to give the residents time in their rural area until that area
develops. She stated it is not significant to the developer on which end the cul-de-sac is
placed. She advised she wants to see what comes out of the neighborhood meeting
regarding 62nd Street.
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CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION JULY 19, 2000
The City Engineer advised the purpose of the meeting is to address concerns and answer
questions about road improvements on 62nd Street.
Council Member Reinert inquired if residents feel that West Shadow will eventually go
through to 62nd Street. He asked if delaying the continuation will make residents happy.
Staff advised residents don't' want the road to go through at all. They want no
development in the area. The road has been planned to go through to 62nd Street for quite
some time.
Council Member Reinert asked if the long-range plan includes West Shadow continuing
to Ash Street.
The City Engineer advised it is unlikely the road will continue to Ash Street due to
development constraints and wetlands.
Mayor Bergeson pointed out that if the City never makes north/sou
accelerate the need for a larger road on Hodgson. All the traffi
Hodgson and that causes the need for those roads to be lar
Council Member Carlson stated everyone should al
compromise. The City will eventually get the n
Council Member Reinert stated it make
as long as they can. The developer
temporary cul-de-sac.
Mayor Bergeson inquir
showing the location
temporary solu
unsewered.
s, it will
h or
e the traffic.
r and offer a
nnection.
e residents live in a rural area for
with the project by utilizing a
:tion of the cul-de-sac. Staff pointed to a map
cul-de-sac. Staff expressed concern regarding a
permanent one. Staff noted Colonial Woods is shown as
Mayor Bergeson a lot of traffic goes through this area on Hawthorne to Ware Road.
Council Member Dahl stated she thought the plan called for a lot less new homes. Staff
advised this is the 1998 plat that includes 22 single-family lots.
Mr. Carlson stated the plan originally had more lots. As the plat developed, he went with
larger lots on one side.
Council Member Dahl stated residents have expressed concern regarding the trail
placement. Staff referred to a map indicating the placement of the trail.
6
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION JULY 19, 2000
Mr. Carlson advised the trail placement was discussed at the Planning and Zoning Board
meeting and neighborhood meeting. All four (4) affected residents asked that the trail be
moved. He stated he offered to put in a buffer but moving the trail would be easier.
Mayor Bergeson suggested the trail and easement be combined.
Council Member Dahl advised she was in favor of this project with a cul-de-sac.
The City Engineer advised a cul-de-sac on the north would result in a N mile long cul-de-
sac. A cul-de-sac on the south end would result in confusion for drivers. A sign could be
put up indicating it is not a through street. Both placements are equally undesirable. He
stated he is concerned about another long cul-de-sac similar to the one in Colonial
Woods.
Mayor Bergeson stated the cul-de-sac should be put on the south end. The north end
should be constructed so the streets meet. The south end could then be when the
road continues through to 62nd Street.
Council Member Reinert inquired about a mechanism that in awe to continue
the road in the future.
The City Engineer advised he would ask for Co
factor. He added that residents who live on
continue through.
n regarding the determining
ill not want the road to
Council Member Carlson sugge a e chanism such as a time or certain number
of years.
Council Member Rei
be reconstructe
funds are avail
if the funds don't become available, 62" Street can't
ineer advised 62°d Street is on a state aid system. The
Council Member ert stated he does not believe the residents will object to a time
frame based on future development.
Council Member Dahl requested the residents in Birchwood Acres be invited to the
neighborhood meeting.
HIGHWAY 49 PROJECT, JEFF REINERT
Council Member Reinert advised he believes the Council needs to determine what should
happen with the Highway 49 project. Once the Council makes a determination, a meeting
should be held with the two (2) involved Counties and officials from the City of
Shoreview.
7
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION JULY 19, 2000
• Mayor Bergeson suggested a letter should be sent to both Counties requesting they work
together on the project. The City of Shoreview should send a similar letter.
Mr. Jeff Heaser, resident of Lino Lakes, came forward and distributed a copy of Ramsey
County's plan for the highway. He also distributed_a copy of the procedure Ramsey
County uses for this resident input regarding these types of issues. He stated the largest
part of the road is 62' from curb to curb. Turn back money is being used for the project.
Mayor Bergeson stated the plan is the same concept as County Road J.
Council Member Carlson stated a meeting with the City of Shoreview is a good idea. The
meeting should be open to the public.
The Council directed staff to contact the City officials from Shoreview to schedule a
Saturday meeting in August 2000. Staff will also schedule a time for Council to discuss
this issue before the joint meeting.
REGULAR AGENDA, JULY 24, 2000
Item 7A, PUBLIC HEARING, Resolution No. 00 — 64,
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update.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:20 p.m.
These minutes were considered,
August 14, 2000.
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City Clerk John Bergeson, Mayor
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Kim Points
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