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HomeMy WebLinkAbout11/22/2000 Council MinutesCITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION CITY OF LINO LAKES MINUTES NOVEMBER 22, 2000 DATE : November 22, 2000 TIME STARTED : 5:30 p.m. TIME ENDED : 8:40 p.m. MEMBERS PRESENT : Council Member Carlson, Dahl, O'Donnell, Reinert, and Mayor Bergeson : None MEMBERS ABSENT Staff members present: Administration Director, Dan Tesch; City Engineer, John Powell; Economic Development Director, Brian Wessel; Econo elopment Assistant, Mary Divine (part); Environmental Specialist, M(part); Chief of Police, Dave Pecchia (part); and City Planner, Jeff Smyse �k �►.< ``dner, Director of Public Services DELLWOOD LLC PRESENTATION, BRIA EL Staff advised they have been working with Rehbein property. Staff advised they can n would like to build in Lino Lakes. St timeline for the project. Target wo Mr. Tom Palmquist, Ryan Co broad overview of the pro with City staff. Target wou would be a Super Tar ith for several months to develop the y confuun that Target Corporations a Permitting Process regarding the ak ground in May, 2001. e forward and stated he would like to give a r questions. He stated he has enjoyed working the lead retailer on the property. He stated the Target 1 service grocery. Mr. Palmquist played a eotape that showed the look of a Super Target. He noted they do not yet have formal a ecutive committee approval. He stated the following are the key issues relating to the project: 1. Secondary curb cut on Lake Drive 2. The three (3) parcels to the north are not part of the project 3. Mitigation of wetlands 4. Screening needs 5. New Urbanism concepts 6. Continued work with staff on funding sources Mr. Bill Whitrock, RSP Architects, came forward and referred to a drawing of the site as it currently is laid out. He noted the smaller users have not yet been identified. He advised that the blue on the drawing indicates a pedestrian walkway. He displayed 1 CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION NOVEMBER 22, 2000 another drawing pointing out the enhanced green space, parking areas, and pedestrian pathway. He reviewed the proposed architectural design of the Target store noting how it relates to the proposed design standards. Mr. John Payton, Engineer for the project, came forward and reviewed an aerial map of the site noting that because of the soils, three -(3) storm water pond site will be created. He also reviewed the grading plan noting the sanitary sewer locations. He stated it is very important to Target that they have two (2) accesses to the site. Staff advised that a neighborhood meeting should be scheduled as soon as possible because the border of 77th Street is critical. The neighborhood meeting is tentatively scheduled for next month. Council Member Carlson stated it appears that staff and the developer are working on the issues related to the project. She stated she is anxious to hear the Environmental Plan. She stated that this plan is different from before. She asked if the developer is willing to agree to not the site. Mr. Palmquist advised the idea of a service station current proposal does not include a service statio not putting in a service station. from the ouncil has seen ce station on ssed with staff. The he is willing to agree on Council Member Carlson inquired abo h==veloper is looking for funding. Mr. Palmquist advised he would + e working with staff to see if there are funding sources to offset the c • • . no ` r aditional type development. He stated they have not yet determined an c- def funding. Council Member Car businesses that the Cit can visit. d concern regarding tax incentives for the same type of as. She asked for examples of development the Council Mr. Whitrock stated he developed the Stillwater Target and Apple Valley Greatland. He stated he also worked on the Midway Wards and Arden Hills ROTC Center. Mr. Palmquist stated there are similar Targets under construction in Rochester, Minnetonka and Chaska. The Shoreview Target will be expanding to a Super Target. Council Member O'Donnell asked for comments on the traffic study. The City Engineer stated the traffic study will look at the whole corridor down to the Town Center. The study will address Target's request for another access. The Village area will also be included in the study. CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION NOVEMBER 22, 2000 Council Member Dahl asked how Anoka County feels about the traffic study. The City Engineer advised the City initiated the study. The County has been contacted regarding information and will receive a copy of the study. When a request for a right in access for the McDonald's was received, the County indicated they were against that. The City has had on going conversations with the County regarding this issue. If the study shows that another access is functional, the County may allow it. Council Member Reinert confirmed there will be a buffer and power lines on the north end of Target. He recommended that the City pays attention to that and hopefully can bury the power lines. He asked what will happen if a second access is not found. Mr. Palmquist stated that he believes the City will not have a project if a second access is not found. He stated two (2) entrances to the site are critical to the success of the project. Council Member Reinert asked who is conducting the study. Staf TKDA are conducting the traffic study. The developers are co Mayor Bergeson stated the City is in the process of devel stated that he knows Target has a commitment to qualj important to the City. He stated that he believes th2 Cit TOWN CENTER UPDATE, MARY ALI IN ised the City and to the cost. tandards. He n Center is very get can work together. Staff advised that at the last Council w • ;se • " proposed development and the Town Center plan were discussed ed or direction regarding those issues. The City has always felt that the Tow i i ould be a pedestrian and car friendly area, that the two were not mutually,, ve. e design standards do not apply to the Target development. However, T e ' s willing to upgrade from its prototype and cooperate with the City. Council Member Rein .� Tie believes Target is paying attention to the standards. He stated he would like : m ve forward with the development. Mayor Bergeson suggested the possibility of adapting the design standards to a different concept. He stated the City does need some design standards in place for the site. Council directed staff to move forward with the project and continue to negotiate with Target. Staff advised the City the Livable Communities committee has recommended that the City of Lino Lakes should receive $450,000 for implementation, rather than the $1.5 million the city requested. Staff will look at what opportunities this funding will provide for the City. Staff is meeting with Ms. Carolyn Krall next week regarding options to move forward. The recommendation now will go to the committee at the Metropolitan Council. Staff will continue to market this project. CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION NOVEMBER 22, 2000 Council Member Carlson brought up the question of economic feasibility. She stated she is interested in how the City will scale the project back. She stated that even if the City received the $1.5 million, she isn't sure if the City could afford the project. She referred to the design standards and noted developers are not buying the Tagg property. She stated the Council needs to know the economic feasibility and what the City is agreeing to with the $450,000, the Metropolitan Council and the Tagg's. Mr. and Mrs. Tagg need to know what will happen with their property. She stated that she believes the City does need some design standards. However, if the design standards are taken off the north site they have to be taken off the southern property also. Staff advised they will be discussing what will be required with the funding with the Metropolitan Council. Council Member Carlson stated the City has struggled not to raise a copy of the City budget in the newspaper. She stated she is c Staff advised the Metropolitan Council will not disburse Council approves the Comprehensive Plan. The City not the funds are accepted once it understands the for use of the funds. 800 MHZ BOARD, DAVID PECCHIA s. She referred to about the dollars. 1 the Metropolitan etermine whether or ouncil's requirements Staff advised Council Members prey J received a copy of the 800 MHz Study. The study included a report on Public obile Radio System Planning in Anoka County and Integration of Pub ` y a puter Based Systems in Anoka County. The study indicates the City sho • • 800 -megahertz system. The cost of the system is $12 million dollars with ', • lio o upgrade the fire service. Staff is talking to the County about fundin _;, o • tion. include creating a separate taxing district, state funding and Metro Radio Bo Staff advised that as the ove forward with the County Board the Council will be updated. The City has to make a commitment to the new system by 2003. The City is also looking for legislative relief to offset the costs. Mayor Bergeson asked if the current dispatch arrangement will change if the County changes to the new system. Staff advised the current arrangement will not change. Staff is meeting with the County Board again on November 29, 2000. Council Member Reinert inquired about the current system, why it is inadequate, and the benefits of the new system. Staff advised all those issues are included in the study. He stated the current system was designed 20 years ago and there is not a 911 -center backup. New radios and equipment will be needed for the current system. Currently, radios are being used that they don't make parts for. The current system would require old VHF 4 CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION NOVEMBER 22, 2000 channels. There are only two (2) towers that have backup generators. Staff reviewed the benefits of the new system noting it will give the City one emergency center. Council Member O'Donnell stated that he learned through the meetings that the new system is the only viable alternative for the County. The new system will impact the citizens of Lino Lakes. ANOKA COUNTY JOINT LAW ENFORCEMENT JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT, DAVID PECCHIA Staff advised Council Members previously received copies of the agreement. Staff stated the agreement is a clean up issue. Staff commented on the benefits and changes in the current agreement. The agreement has served the citizens of Lino Lakes very well. This item will appear on the regular Council agenda Monday, November 27, 2000, 6:30 p.m. CSAH 49 RECONSTRUCTION, JOHN POWELL Staff advised that at the November 8, 2000, Council w. stated that action on the CSAH 49 project would b . tak Council meeting. The type and scope of action h direction such that any necessary reports may ouncil Members ovember 27, 2000, n c arified. Staff requested d submitted to the Council. Council Member Carlson stated that at 1. ` + g, she offered the following options: 1. That the Lino L 2000, at the ncil vote on option A-E on November 27, cheduled Council meeting. 2. That - Cities ino Lakes and Shoreview and the Counties of Anoka and R and work together to come to a compromise. Council Member Carlso ° u stributed a copy of Resolution No. 00 —121 from the City of Shoreview. She read the resolution that encourages a cooperative effort to work together on this project. She suggested that the City of Lino Lakes use the same format and vote on it Monday. She read the resolution as it was presented. She noted the City of Shoreview did pass the resolution. Council Member O'Donnell advised he is in support of the resolution. He expressed concern regarding someone spearheading the initiative in the resolution. Mayor Bergeson stated that the resolution should be forward to the County if it is approved. The City should also ask for a response. 5 CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION NOVEMBER 22, 2000 Council Member Reinert asked where the action is in the resolution. He stated all four (4) agencies should sign on with a schedule of meetings. Ramsey County should be approached first. He stated the goal of having all four (4) agencies sign should be added to the resolution. Council Member Carlson stated that may invalidate the resolution if Anoka County won't sign it. She asked for support to vote on the resolution as is except to change the name of the City and add "to meet and" after the word encourage in paragraph 4 of the resolution. The City Engineer advised MnDOT and the Metropolitan Council need to be a part of this. Council Member Carlson stated MnDOT and the Metropolitan Council can be involved. The City can send them a copy of the resolution. She stated she would prefer that the other two -(2) agencies were not tied into the resolution. The Court embers were elected to represent the citizens. Staff stated the City could designate someone from the C Counties have to be at the meetings. The State and th ultimately say what will happen with the project. S. aff good direction for the City to take. However, thi d meetings. The Council can joint meetings are a y the process. Council directed staff to add Council Memb 's proposal to the regular agenda on Monday night. Council Member Carlson express.. garding her proposal on voting on the County's options for the proje stag°their proposal has not changed much. She stated that appears as if the �' .<x - s with the plan. She stated her main concern is the amount of right-of-way. auntyplan lan is for the road to be a reliever for the : freeways. She stated e City e. s to let the County know it does not agree with the options. Mayor Bergeson stated t re may be a procedural difficulty relating to a vote on the options. The Council needs to vote on an actionable item. He indicated he is not sure than the City has a specific proposal to put on the agenda. Staff advised the resolution can say that the Council has reviewed the options and do not believe they meet the citizens needs. The City can request that more options are presented that addresses all concerns. Council Member O'Donnell expressed concern regarding voting on the options and the impact that may have on the first resolution. A formal action on the options is not necessary. He stated the four -(4) agencies should get together and develop a compromise. CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION NOVEMBER 22, 2000 Council Member Carlson stated she does not agree. The County is not listening to the City. Council Member O'Donnell stated he still needs more information on the impacts of the project to homes and businesses. Council Member Reinert stated that he agrees that sometimes silence is acceptance. The resolution is a formal action. The Council should pass the resolution and see how far it goes with the four -(4) agencies working together. If the four -(4) agencies don't work together, a vote could be taken on the County's options. Mayor Bergeson expressed concern regarding telling the County that nothing they have presented is acceptable. There are concepts within the options that the City needs to consider. Council Member Carlson proposed that the City indicate to the reviewed the options and there concerns that we have dete approve options of that size. at they have City can not Council Member Reinert stated that at the last Cou cil eeti a did support a vote on the options. However, there are new items that h .resented that include the resolution and having the four -(4) agencies w -` ethers. The City needs to make every effort to work things out. The resolution is :ood ion. The City needs to attempt to get everyone involved together before a touthe .options is taken. Council Member Carlson stated td to be voted on because a commitment was made to the citizens. Council Member O' Don . ' ed a 'dote on the options may show more division than there really is. Council Member Carls no ed the County has had two (2) weeks to obtain the requested information on the impata She stated that if the City has a good faith comment from the County she will delay the vote on the options for two (2) weeks. Council Member O'Donnell stated he would like Anoka County to commit to the resolution and work with everyone to come up with an acceptable plan. Council Member Carlson stated the City needs to tell the County the options are not acceptable. Council Member Dahl stated she is in favor of the resolution. She stated the resolution tells everyone involved that the City wants to work together. Voting on the options tells the Council the City does not like the options. The options seem to indicate that the 7 CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION NOVEMBER 22, 2000 County has a different plan. The options are too large for this community. She stated the language used can correctly convey the City's position. Council Member O'Donnell suggested language be added to the resolution that indicates the City is not in favor of the proposed options but the City does want to work together. Council Member Carlson stated that if the correct language is added, she will hold off on the vote. She stated a short statement should also be added. Council directed staff to come up with language to include in the resolution that indicates the Council does not agree with the options shown up to this point. Council Member Carlson stated her key concern is that it is clear that the current options are not acceptable. Council Member Reinert suggested the City get on the Public 'ttee agenda to discuss this issue. This item will be on the regular Council agenda Mon BLUEBILL PONDS ASSESSMENTS, JOHN Staff advised this public hearing was contin meeting. The feasibility report for this responsible for all street constructio Mar Don Acres lots. The develo approach. City staff needs addi Mar Don property owners. r 27, 2000, 6:30 p.m. the November 13, 2000, Council ed Bluebill Ponds would be u sing those for the roadway abutting the evelopment, has objected to this identify assessment options and contact the Staff recommended t 's itemcsntinued to the December 11, 2000, Council meeting. Council Member Carls •`re �" ested copies of the correspondence to the developer. She expressed concern regarc g the process outlined in the City Charter and how the developer has treated the citizens of Lino Lakes. She referred to the feasibility report and commented on the assessments and how they were calculated. She stated she is concerned about the legality of any other assessment options. REGULAR AGENDA, NOVEMBER 27, 2000 There were no changes to the regular agenda. The meeting was adjourned at 8:40 p.m. 8 CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION NOVEMBER 22, 2000 These minutes were considered, corrected and approved at the regular Council meeting held on December 11, 2000. Ry-Chel Gaustad, City Clerk Transcribed by: Kim Points TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc. Jo ergeson, Mayor 9