HomeMy WebLinkAbout01/03/2001 Council MinutesCITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION JANUARY 3, 2001
UPDATE 02/01/01
CITY OF LINO LAKES
MINUTES
DATE : January 3, 2001
TIME STARTED : 5:30 p.m.
TIME ENDED : 9:25 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT : Council Member Carlson, Dahl, O'Donnell,
Reinert, and Mayor Bergeson
MEMBERS ABSENT None
Staff members present: City Administrator, Linda Waite Smith; City Engineer, John
Powell; Economic Development Director, Brian Wessel (part); Economic Development
Assistant, Mary Divine (part); Public Services Director, Rick DeGardner (part); and City
Planner, Jeff Smyser
WEST SHADOW PONDS ROADWAY EXTENSION,
Staff advised notices were sent out to residents regar
discussed at the September 6, 2000, Council wo
indicating the West Shadow Ponds project. T
Shadow Ponds to the south. The issue i
trail has been relocated due to Counc
Staff continued stating that the
connected at some time
62nd Street. However, 6
concept that has b
the future when 62
advised the barricad
This issue was
eferred to a map
p - • sal will connect West
t to 62nd Street. Staff noted the
ow shown as a temporary cul-de-sac to be
. Staff recommends the roadway be connected to
et '' not handle the additional traffic at this time. The
d includes barricades at the extension until some point in
s upgraded. The barricades would then be removed. Staff
and cul-de-sac are a temporary compromise.
Council Member Carlson inquired about sewer and water when 62nd Street is
reconstructed. Staff advised City sewer and water would be installed when 62nd Street is
reconstructed.
Council Member Carlson asked how the sewer and water hook ups would work with the
City Charter. Staff advised there will be some adjustments for interest rates, similar to
what was done on Ware Road.
Council Member Carlson stated that the properties on the south side of the roadway are
very large. She asked if those homeowners would be required to hook up to the City
sewer if their septics fail. Staff advised residents must hook up to the City utilities if a
septic fails and if City utilities are available. Residents can utilize the modified Bisel
Amendment until the property is subdivided.
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Council Member Carlson inquired about future plans to extend 62nd Street to County
Road J. Staff advised an extension to County Road J would be a future extension that
would occur as development in the area occurs. Staff noted that the proposed roadway
connection would eliminate the long cul-de-sac within Colonial Woods.
Council Member Dahl asked if 62nd Street would become a top priority for
reconstruction. Staff advised it is possible that 62nd Street would become a top priority
and be reconstructed within the next two -(2) years. The roadway would be reconstructed
when West Shadow Ponds is connected. State Aid Funds would be used to reconstruct
62nd Street.
Mayor Bergeson asked if 62nd Street would require more than one year of State Aid
Funds. Staff advised the reconstruction of 62nd Street would probably use three (3) years
of State Aid Funding. The City can borrow ahead from the funds. Staff noted the City
has accumulated some funds coming into this year.
Mayor Bergeson inquired about the construction schedule.
Mr. Rick Carlson, developer for the project, came forw
90 more days to complete the wetland delineation.
out.
Ms. Rosemary Williams, 498 62n° Str
for the City to extend 62nd Street
traffic lights. More homes are
subdivision and stated tha
t'"will take at least
at least six (6) months
and stated it is very irresponsible
ig1 way 49 needs reconstruction and
th s area. She questioned the legality of the
ents have a petition on file against this issue.
Mayor Bergeson . ed ity is currently addressing issues related to Highway 49.
Ms. Williams stateoject is very premature for the area. She suggested the City
put the project on ho until Highway 49 is taken care of. She stated she thought the
extension was scheduled for 2010. The area is very congested and can't handle more
traffic. She stated the residents on Ware Road should have been notified about the
meeting also.
The City Planner stated the City Council has the right to rezone and subdivide property.
The project would require plat approval, allocation of MUSA and a rezone.
Council Member O'Donnell inquired about the timeline regarding those issues. The City
Planner advised the reason the City is focusing on the roadway at this time is because it is
the primary concern for the City and residents. The project can not move forward without
an agreement on the roadway.
Council Member Carlson stated the project had 15 lots when it went through the Planning
and Zoning Board. She asked if it will go before the Planning and Zoning Board again.
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The City Planner advised the project had 22 lots when the Planning and Zoning Board
approved the plat in 1998. The lot configuration has not changed.
Mr. Barry Rice, 660 Fox Road, came forward and stated that he believes Mr. Carlson is a
responsible developer. He stated he would like to have a responsible developer for the
project because development is going to occur eventually. He stated the County will not
put traffic lights on Highway 49 until more traffic is there. He stated he is in favor of the
roadway going through to 62nd Street. He stated the City can allocate MUSA for the
project. He stated he lives on the north side and was aware of potential development
when he moved there. He stated he believes it is time for the development and Mr.
Carlson has a good record with the City.
Council Member Reinert stated he wants to look at both sides of the issue. He stated the
plan calls for barricades at this time. The impact will not be immediate. The plan does
not have a trigger for the removal of the barricades. He suggested the trigger to remove
the barricades could be the reconstruction of Highway 49.
Mayor Bergeson stated that trigger does make some sense. Th i the one to
determine when the barricades come down. The criteria co here are
adequate roadways to handle additional traffic.
Mr. Tom Drow, 6317 Red Maple Lane, stated . e several meetings regarding
this issue. At an earlier meeting, an option w r disc ed that involved blocking the road
to the north. The 22 lots could empty = o ' nd '� eet. 62nd Street could be
resurfaced with sewer and water iso ution would allow development to
proceed and not involve the c nstruction. The main concern of residents
is the traffic from Birch S u as . possible short cut.
Mr. Marvin Emly, u ' 1 6 reet, came forward and inquired about other connections
such as 62nd Street oad J and 62nd Street east to Holly. He stated there are
other roads within t ' itr that need reconstruction before 62nd Street. He added that the
contractors of 62nd S et should be contacted about the way it was constructed.
Staff advised that the extension of 62nd Street to Holly is included in the transportation
plan of State Aid roads. The extension will happen at some point in the future.
Mr. Mike Pojar, 6255 Red Maple Lane, stated the City Planner had indicated the current
plan is the same as the plan in 1998. He asked if it is the same plan.
The City Planner advised the plan from 1998 is very similar to the current plan. The
location of the wetland boundaries may vary slightly.
Mr. Pojar inquired about the reason the project did not move forward in 1998. The City
Planner advised he would have to research the details but believes that the Council at that
time did not approve of the project so the developer withdrew it so it was not denied.
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Mr. Pojar asked if the project will then go forward depending on who is on the City
Council.
Mayor Bergeson advised that if the project goes forward, a number of approvals must be
obtained. It is the responsibility of the City Council to make those decision and
transportation decisions for the City.
Mr. Pojar requested reasons as to why the project now makes sense if the Council moves
to go ahead with it. He stated he would like to know why the project is worthy now but it
wasn't in 1998. Projects should move forward based on merit and should improve the
City.
Mayor Bergeson stated the majority of the Council will be happy to explain the reason for
their vote.
Ms. Suzy Guther, 642 Fox Road, came forward and stated her mai. - is traffic.
She stated it is impossible now to get to Birch Street. She stat cern she has
is the speed limit on West Shadow Lake Drive. Extendin r� a w�` make the
traffic go faster. There is also a lot of pedestrian traffic y. She asked that
the Council takes her concerns into consideration w in: -vision.
Staff advised a stoplight at Birch Street and • w Lake Drive can be discussed
with the County. Speeding is an issue ` �p�t is 30 mph but the roadway is
wider causing faster traffic. Traff F� as ow Lake Drive and Birch Street may
decrease because 62nd Street i o a fte
Mr. Bill Trudeau, 410
additional room f
school referendum.
comes in.
e forward and expressed concern regarding
t the school. He stated residents just had to vote on a
ted that more schools be built before more development
Ms. Julie Smith, 6398 West Shadow Lake Drive, came forward and expressed concern
regarding speed and traffic on West Shadow Lake Drive. She stated there are many
children who use the road to walk to school and it is not safe. Added traffic will cause
more problems. She stated she was told a traffic study could be conducted but it may
result in a higher speed limit. The current speed limit of 30 mph is too high.
Ms. Williams came forward and stated that everyone is concerned about traffic and
safety. She stated she almost got hit by a car getting her mail. The area can not tolerate
any more traffic. She added that when Highway 49 is reconstructed there will be more
traffic on Ware Road. She stated this is not a good project.
Mr. Rice stated he believes the project is a good project and he is in favor of it.
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Council Member Carlson stated the project does need a 4/5 vote from Council. She
stated she wants to see a compromise that benefits both residents and the developer. She
stated she is in favor of the road going through when the properties on the south side
develop. She stated she understands the impact on people, especially those with large
properties. She stated a compromise is needed and she believes it can be resolved.
Staff advised the original intent of the meeting is to give the developer direction. Staff
indicated the developer has the information he needs to proceed. Staff advised a
barricade is a good compromise. Connecting the roadway at this time is beneficial from
an engineering standpoint.
Mayor Bergeson called for a short recess at 6:25 p.m.
Mayor Bergeson reconvened the meeting at 6:40 p.m.
CSAH 49 RECONSTRUCTION, JOHN POWELL
Staff advised the latest action by the City was sending the lette ' ounty and
Anoka County regarding a joint meeting. Both counties ha = t 7 are
supportive of a meeting. A date for the meeting will be s c �' . y , ity
Administrator and City Engineer.
Mayor Bergeson stated he received a call fro ounty Commissioner Margaret
Langfeld asking for the City's support o reduce the speed limit on
Hodgson Road. If the request is s : ounty Engineer would be able to
construct the roadway on a dif t y i elines. Commissioner Langfeld is going
to pursue the request with, and e Board will draft a resolution.
TOWN CENTED'�' � 3 , MA Y ALICE DIVINE
Dellwood LLC U Wessel — Staff advised an update and new schedule will
be presented this e
Mr. Tom Palmquist, Ryan Companies, stated he will give a brief update since the last
meeting. Ryan Companies has been working on the EAW and ISP documentation.
Wetland issues have been looked at. Discussions have been held regarding the
preliminary traffic report. He indicated he feels that the traffic issues can be resolved to
move forward with the project. A neighborhood meeting was held on December 20,
2000. Thirty-six residents attended the meeting. Residents overall had a good feeling
about the project. The main concern is the traffic as well as buffering. The plans
presented to the residents included the aerial view, specific view, site and grading plan,
utility plan, and project schedule. He distributed a copy of the new schedule and
indicated a drawing of the exact building will be available tomorrow.
Mayor Bergeson stated that public hearings are sometimes continued to another meeting.
He suggested the Planning and Zoning Board be notified that a special meeting may need
to be scheduled to complete the public hearing.
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Council Member Carlson inquired about a discussion with the County regarding the
number of stoplights. The City Engineer advised the traffic study focused on the whole
area until 2015. It is conceivable that six (6) stoplights will be installed along that stretch
of roadway.
Council Member Carlson expressed concern regarding not having a stoplight at 77`''
Street. The City Engineer advised that neighborhood traffic will be an issue and will be
addressed as the project moves forward.
Mr. Bill Zanoni, a representative from Target, came forward and distributed a brochure
about the Target Superstore. He commented on the location of the store, the Community
Give Back Program, and store operations.
Mayor Bergeson asked for a description of the grocery store.
Mr. Zanoni stated the grocery store is comparable to a Byerly's. T
service bakery, meat and produce department. The store will b
square feet that will include a Starbucks. He noted that the
Wisconsin is the closest one to visit.
Mayor Bergeson inquired about the neighborh
Mr. Palmquist indicated the neighbor
stated he left the meeting feeling
would be more opposition. Tr
will be a full
ly 40,000
u Claire,
t well and he was surprised. He
project. He indicated he thought there
n concern of residents.
Council Member Carls • _ t eighbors on the north side want documentation
regarding the ease
on from the City that saved the trees.
Council Member Rated he likes the project. He asked where the problems are
with the project.
Mr. Palmquist stated he can not fully address the problems at this point. Traffic is an
issue as well as the contingency on the purchase agreement with Mr. Rehbein. Access
issues and how costs are shared between Mr. Baylor, Mr. Rehbein, Ryan Companies and
the City also need to be addressed.
Mayor Bergeson stated there are a lot of improvements that are needed on Lake Drive.
He asked if the City can work with the County for funding. The City Engineer indicated
the City can work with the County on Turn Back Funds for the improvements.
Council Member Carlson expressed concern regarding how much this will cost and how
much it will cost the City. She inquired about the money that was set aside for the traffic
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light at 35W and Lake Drive. The City Engineer advised the developer and his attorney
are responding to the stoplight issue.
Mayor Bergeson asked if the City can make road improvements in time to meet the
schedule. The City Engineer stated that trying to determine their expectations will
determine what they request for subsidy. Who pays for what is a key issue relating to the
project. The City can physically provide what Target needs to open their doors.
Council Member O'Donnell inquired about the timeline regarding other retailers on the
site.
Mr. Palmquist stated identifying other retailers is a marketing question. It is beneficial to
the Ryan Companies to develop the sites concurrently with Target. He stated retailers
such as bookstores, electronics, office supply, restaurants and service tenants are potential
retailers.
Mayor Bergeson suggested staff review the revised schedule and C tions in detail
at the next work session.
Livable Communities Grant, Mary Alice Divine — Sta d next meeting
regarding the Livable Communities Grant has not y et. f will discuss issues
regarding flexibility on use of the grant funds ee o move ahead with the
grant. Staff is meeting with the development 5 ' � orrow.
Council Member Carlson stated sli oposals include senior housing and/or
assisted living housing.
Economic Feasibility ` ri Wessel — Staff advised Al Rolek is putting together
a recommendatio omic feasibility study that he will present to the Council at
the next work sessr �,'.lek believes the City will have eligible funding from the
initial grant for the y. he study will be a 60 -day study that will cost approximately
$10,000 - $12,000be completed by the end of March 2001.
The City Administrator advised Mr. Rolek feels the cost of the study can come out of the
budget if funds from the original grant can not be used.
Design Standards, Mary Alice Divine — Staff advised it is time to review the standards
and have a discussion regarding what the Design Standards are and what they are
supposed to do. The standards will be reviewed in sections. Staff provided a slide
presentation relating to the intent and goals of the Design Standards. Staff advised a
review of the residential portion of the Design Standards will be given at the next work
session.
Mayor Bergeson stated a decision regarding the Design Standards needs to be made soon.
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Council Member Carlson expressed concern regarding the cost to the City and if
development will be feasible on the south side. She stated the feasibility study is very
important.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, LINDA WAITE SMITH
Staff verified that Council Members received information from Al Brixius dated
December 26, 2000.
Council Member Carlson noted Council Members did not receive information from M
Wyland.
Staff advised the next Comprehensive Plan work session is scheduled for January 10,
2001, 5:30 p.m. The Council will also conduct a performance appraisal of the City
Administrator.
BLACK DUCK DRIVE TRAIL, RICK DEGARDNER
Staff distributed a memo regarding the Black Duck Drive T
the memo noting that staff has reached a tentative agree
owners to obtain a 15' trail corridor at the end of Bl
Staff also reviewed the projected costs and rev
project.
f reviewed
ected property
or a public trail.
at are available for the
Council directed staff to proceed with m for the Black Duck Drive trail.
Council also directed staff to
to the Parks Board to use o ects
REGULAR AGE . AAR 8, 2001
Council Member C� oted the dates of approval need to be changed on the minutes.
The following was added to the Community Calendar:
Comprehensive Plan Council Work Session, Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 5:30
p.m.
Joint Meeting with City Council and Charter Commission, Thursday, January 11,
2001, 7:00 p.m.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:25 p.m.
These minutes were considered, corrected and approved at the regular Council meeting held on
February 12, 2001.
the release of the excess funds balance
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Ry- hel Gaustad, CMC City Clerk John Bergeson, Mayor
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