HomeMy WebLinkAbout02/07/2001 Council MinutesCITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION FEBRUARY 7, 2001
CITY OF LINO LAKES
MINUTES
DATE : February 7, 2001
TIME STARTED : 5:30 p.m.
TIME ENDED : 9:15 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT : Council Member Carlson, Dahl, O'Donnell,
and Mayor Bergeson
: Reinert
MEMBERS ABSENT
Staff members present: Administration Director, Dan Tesch; City Engineer, John
Powell; Economic Development Director, Brian Wessel (part); Finance Director, Al
Rolek (part); and City Planner, Jeff Smyser
WEST SHADOW LAKE DRIVE, JOHN POWELL
Powell advised a continuation of the public commen ro h 3, 2001, Council
work session will be held this evening. Powell - .; _� a ointing out the West
Shadow Ponds subdivision and neighboring s o =ns. a key issue is the
continuation of the roadway to 62nd Stre _ roadway will be connected. Staff
distributed a letter from Tom and Jan ?3 indicated they are in favor of West
Shadow Lake Drive being exten' , ni et being improved.
Mayor Bergeson noted ± ber Reinert is absent this evening. Council Member
Reinert will view the vi an. ear all public comments.
Mr. Jim Kohl, 520 a Road, came forward and stated he has been asked by the
neighbors on Hawth a Road to speak. He stated the group he represents is not here to
oppose the development, but to oppose the barricade that will prohibit traffic going
through to 62nd Street. He stated Hawthorne Road is a local road and the traffic flow
currently goes down Hawthorne creating too many traffic and safety issues. He stated the
group supports the connection to 62nd Street to alleviate the traffic on Hawthorne. He
stated there are 54 homes and 107 children on Hawthorne. He stated the group does not
think it makes sense to put a cul-de-sac in. Residents are afraid that if a connection is not
made, the traffic will increase. He entered into the record a petition signed by 107
residents who are in favor of the connection. He stated he knows there are dollars to
upgrade 62nd Street. There are also other reasons to make the connection including access
for safety vehicles and avoiding a very long cul-de-sac. He stated there is equal if not
greater support to connect the roadway to 62nd Street.
Mr. Barry Rice, 662 Fox Road, came forward and stated he sent a letter to the City
Council indicating his full support for the connection of the roadway due to traffic
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concerns. He stated the City would face another problem with the 22 homes in the area
when the proposed cul-de-sac is removed. He stated he knew the road was going to go in
and the developer is a good developer. He stated he sees no reason why the City should
not connect the roadway.
Mr. Marvin Emly, 590 62nd Street, came forward and asked if the project is buildable. He
stated he does not want to see a bunch of holding ponds that become stagnant cesspools
that the City has to clean up. He stated the City should not be talking about this project if
the West Shadow Ponds land is not buildable.
Powell advised the subdivision would have to meet all requirements including storm
water, ponding and septic issues. He referred to Miller's South Glen as a similar
example. Staff advised the developer could meet all the City standards for the
subdivision.
Mr. Emly stated the ponds in Miller's South Glen are already bad. The City needs to find
a way to make the water move.
Mr. Tom Drow, 6317 Red Maple Lane, came forward and d h e to many of
these meetings since the beginning of the project. One o e is cerns of the
project was the extension of the roadway. West Sh ad nsidered to be a
concept extension and does not mean that it is . He reminded the Council
that approval for a project was given at 690 6 ' There is now a house there,
which causes a problem connecting to �3� ��� •w Another concept was to connect to
Holly Drive. The City Engineer h i ere are environmental challenges with
that connection. Without the o er is no plan to extend the road. He stated
there has been no conside+ . ffic " anagement to other subdivisions in the area.
The road could have behen Miller's South Glen was developed. It has
been stated that 6 °' tre �'ould take three (3) years worth of funding. It does not make
sense to use three `' e o rth of funding for one street. He stated there has been
much discussion reopen spaces and greenways within the City. He wondered if
the City has set asidome land for that. He stated he believes the developer is a good
developer and it is a good project. However, it does not make good sense relating to
traffic management.
Powell advised they did consider the extension with the recent subdivsion. A house was
moved back to meet all setbacks in case the roadway was developed. This connection has
been shown and indicated it would be done as development occurs. Typically, the City
does accumulate funds for larger projects.
Mr. Tom Brickner, 550 Hawthorne Road, came forward and stated he thought the
connection would be made at some point. He stated Hawthorne Road is a very narrow
road and safety is an issue. He stated it makes sense to construct the road to be
connected. Hawthorne Road was not designed for a major connection.
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Powell advised Hawthorne Road is 32 feet wide. West Shadow Lake Drive is wider than
Hawthorne is.
Mr. Tom Drow, 6317 Red Maple Lane, came forward and asked what the trigger will be
to move the cul-de-sac if the development is allowed to be built. He stated that he does
not believe the City can legally stop the development. He also asked if 62nd Street would
be constructed first if no cul-de-sac were developed.
Mayor Bergeson advised the Council has discussed some options for a trigger that include
removing the barricades when 62nd Street is completed, when 62nd Street and Hodgson
road are completed, and a specific amount of time. Council has not yet determined what
the trigger will be.
Mr. Kohl stated his group supports the extension going through as soon as possible. He
asked for a show of hands of those present who support the connection. He noted most
residents present are in favor of the connection.
A resident came forward and stated he owns one of the propert
build on. He stated he heard 62nd Street would be fixed. H
something done.
per wants to
d like to see
The City Planner advised the developer is wai to tell him to submit the
final plan. The project has not yet been a
Mayor Bergeson advised residents en- name and phone number to be
notified about future meetings
The City Planner advis • -r 'ling could be sent out about future meetings.
Mayor Bergeson cort recess at 6:05 p.m.
Mayor Bergeson rec vened the meeting at 6:20 p.m.
APITZ AREA/SPIRIT HILLS, JOHN POWELL
Staff advised Mr. Goertz has asked to address the Council about his intentions for his
property. Staff referred to a map indicating the area. Mr. Goertz has requested a
subdivision and submitted a very rough concept plan.
Mr. Goertz stated he is looking for direction from the Council. The property is zoned R-1
and is within the MUSA. He stated he would like to go with a PDO for more open space.
The plan includes single-family homes, twin and triple homes. He indicated he would
like to keep the area around the townhomes as common area owned by the association.
He asked for direction regarding the PDO.
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Council Member Dahl asked if the plan on display is the PDO. She also asked if Mr.
Goertz has a plan for the single-family development.
Mr. Goertz advised the plan is the PDO. He indicated he does have a very rough plan for
the single-family development. The PDO includes 31 single-family units and 48
multiples. The single-family plan includes 60 single-family homes. He stated he would
like to plat an outlot for future commercial development. The single-family development
would have a different density and not have as much open space.
Mayor Bergeson inquired about the intentions for the outlot. Mr. Goertz stated it is
intended that the current business stays in place. A design plan will be presented when
the Comprehensive Plan is completed. The design will depend on the type of zoning.
Mayor Bergeson inquired about the street to the east of the property. Mr. Goertz pointed
out the street and stated he has met with the County. The street would match up to Ware
Road. The exit to Highway 49 would be right in right out only.
Powell advised the City would want the roadway to line up wit
Mayor Bergeson inquired about a new road to Highway s ° a• d a right in right
out only is consistent with the County's plan.
Council Member Carlson asked if there woul
the County had indicated it is possible
want the road to be aligned even if a
accesses on Birch Street may b,
Mr. Goertz noted the lo
ligat Ware Road. Staff advised
d be constructed. The City would
constructed. Staff noted the two -(2)
nding on the development.
Council Member to : he does not like PDO's. She stated there is already too
much traffic on Bir . PDO's have been discussed in the past for more flexibility.
She stated she belie 60 homes can be constructed and still have open space. She
stated the plan is premature because the Comprehensive Plan is not completed.
Mayor Bergeson stated the City does have some density issues related to the
Comprehensive Plan. There are going to be some multi -family homes somewhere within
the City. He stated he sees no problem with mixing up single, twins and triple homes.
He noted the City has that on the north side.
Council Member Carlson asked how the City owned property will affect the plan noting
the City may sell it to the County. Mr. Goertz stated he has discussed the possibility of a
land swap with the County.
Council Member Carlson advised Mr. Goertz to request a change to the land use map
before the Comprehensive Plan is completed.
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Council Member O'Donnell asked about the density in the plan. Mr. Goertz stated the
density with the townhomes is 2.1 units per acre.
TOWN CENTER UPDATE, BRIAN WESSEL
Livable Community Grant, Carolyn Krull — Staff advised an update will be given
regarding the meeting with the Livable Communities Grant Committee held on January
25, 2001. Staff requested funding from the original grant be used for the Economic
Feasibility Study. The Committee indicated funds from the original grant can be used for
the study. Staff also requested the condition that had to do with land acquisition for
rental units be removed. The Committee removed the condition and gave the City the
latitude to work with infrastructure and potential land write down relating to a mixed-use
plan. Staff noted the Committee was advised that the Council plans to complete the
Comprehensive Plan by the end of March 2001.
Ms. Carolyn Krall came forward and advised the Council the devel
to make an offer to the Tagg's for their property for potential d
noted that the problem with the plan is there are not enoug
complete the access to the YMCA. Staff will request m
Council next year. She added that the Metropolitan
current plan.
Ms. Krall presented the plan that was
Committee. She compared the differ
commercial and housing units.
team is going
She also
adways to
the Metropolitan
ressed with the
ivable Communities Grant
previous plan relating to retail,
Staff advised the plan a flexibility for extra acres for the YMCA.
MOLIN CONCR # HBOR, JEFF SMYSER
Staff advised a pac was distributed to Council from Mr. Douglas Miller. Mr. Miller
came forward and read his letter to the Council that requested help from them to resolve
the problem of Molin Concrete. He stated the problems include early morning beepers
and the conditions of their permit. He reviewed the background of the project,
complaints from neighbors, promises made by the company and issues raised in previous
meetings. He pointed out that the zoning change to allow the company was a big
compromise for the residents. The letter also indicated that noise is a huge problem in the
neighborhood. He stated the problem can be eliminated and the requirements of OSHA
still met. He stated he wants to resolve the problem and suggested the company start their
work 2'/z hours later.
Council Member Carlson suggested a higher berm be placed in the neighborhood. Mr.
Miller stated it has been determined that a berm will not help eliminate the noise.
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION FEBRUARY 7, 2001
Council Member Carlson stated the company has indicated they must start their work at
4:00 a.m. to get their trucks out. She added that the City needs a copy of the latest OSHA
regulations.
Mr. Miller stated the equipment the neighbors are most concerned with does not relate to
loading and getting their trucks out on time.
Mayor Bergeson stated the Council needs time to review the packet from Mr. Miller and
give staff time to research the conditions of approval for their permit. A report will be
made to the Council. He urged the residents to attend the Planning and Zoning Board
meeting and make comments before a decision is made on the CUP.
Mr. Gordon Cable advised the Council he has called Molin approximately 35 times.
Molin will not return his calls. The problems have been going on for 2'h years.
CHRIS LYDEN VARIANCE, JEFF SMYSER
Mr. Chris Lyden, 6275 Holly Drive, came forward and referre s „ ce request for
a pole barn structure. He stated the variance was denied at i` Zoning
Board meeting on a 3-3 split with one abstaining. He as ` o i to consider that
Mr. Corson voted nay because the product EIFS wa . He distributed a
copy of information regarding EIFS and stated red flags relating to this
product. He stated he knows the Council is c with maintaining the spirit of the
ordinance and being fair. He stated Trgot a variance and there are other
neighborhoods that have not been ere is also a pole barn at the end of
Holly Court. He stated it wou rant his variance. He invited Council
Members to come and vie the roposed structure.
Mayor Bergeson i .3 red ut a time restriction for the variance request. Staff advised
a decision does no <r . made until March 13, 2001, to meet the deadline.
Council Member 0' nnell stated he visited the site and looked at the surrounding area.
There are only two (2) homes that would have visibility to the structure. Both those
neighbors have indicated they have no objections to the structure. He stated he can see
the risk of constructing a standard structure building on this property. He advised that he
believes the building would be a good fit and he will support the variance request.
Council Member Carlson asked how the proposed structure compares with the pole barn
on Holly Court. Mr. Lyden advised the structure on Holly is a Mortan building with the
highest quality materials. He stated the proposed Walter building has the same specs as
Mortan building.
Council Member Carlson requested information regarding the variance request for the
structure on Holly Court.
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION FEBRUARY 7, 2001
This item will be on the regular Council agenda Monday, February 12, 2001, 6:30 p.m.
VICTOR GARDENS/HUGO, JOHN POWELL
Staff distributed a handout regarding information on Victor Gardens, a subdivision in
Hugo. Staff noted there have been some changes in the plat since the name was changed
from Wenzel farms to Victor Gardens. The biggest change is the developer is trying to
develop more of a traditional neighborhood type development similar to liberty on the
lake in Stillwater. With the original request for a vacation of Elmcrest Avenue, use of the
vacated area was for a trail and berm. The new proposal shows a driveway access area
will be used in the vacated area because garages are in the back of the homes in certain
areas.
Powell added that two (2) readings of the ordinance vacating Elmcrest were held but the
ordinance was not published because the developer had indicated the plan would change.
Powell reviewed the terms contained in his February 2, 01 memo to the City Council on
this mater.
Council Member Carlson asked what will happen to Elmcr e sed the gravel
road will be taken out and the area will be re -graded.
Powell clarified that the Police Chief and Fire i ew the plan relating to
emergency access.
Mr. Pratt, developer for the plan, c
of the street in place of a trail.
There will also be provisi
Council Member
problem in Clearw
problem. That issu
Improvement Feasib
aii stated sidewalks will be on both sides
1 `'` smaller parks within the development.
e trails within Lino Lakes.
sked if this issue has any impact on the water pressure
Staff advised there is no impact on the water pressure
e g dealt with separately as part of the Cedar Street
ty Study.
This item will appear on the regular Council agenda Monday, February 26, 2001, 6:30
p.m.
UTILITY RATE STUDY AND UTILITY OPERATING BUDGET, JOHN
POWELL/AL ROLEK
Staff distributed a copy of the City of Lino Lakes 2001 Utility Rate Study. Staff reviewed
the proposed changes for the year 2001— 2003 relating to sewer and water. Staff noted
the proposed rates do include full depreciation. Staff reviewed an example of what the
new rates would mean for a typical resident and a low user resident.
Council directed staff to publish the proposed rates.
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The Finance Director stated the problem with the old rates is they did not factor in
depreciation. He reviewed the expenses and revenues over or under expenditures for
2001— 2003 relating to the utilities. Staff advised the Council must decide if the rates
should be increased immediately or phased in.
DISCUSS AFSCME CONTRACT, DAN TESCH
Staff advised negotiations of a proposed 2001 labor contract with the AFSCME
bargaining unit has been completed. The union membership voted to ratify the proposed
contract last week. The City Council needs to ratify it before it can be adopted.
Staff advised there are no language changes in the contract. Changes from the previous
contract include:
1. A three percent cost of living adjustment, retroactive to January 1, 2001.
2. Inclusion of two (2) additional positions: Office M blic Services
and Accounting Clerk -Utility Billing/PC Techn.
3. Uniform allowance for the two (2) Buildin ne
Environmental Specialist ($355 annually, 49 contract)
4. Market adjustments to three (3) posi re' s 2%; Senior
Coordinator, 4%; Community
This item will appear on the regular Conday, February 12, 2001, 6:30
p.m.
CONSIDER EDAC VA .._ N SCH
Staff advised the ; C cy was re -advertised as a one-year term. The vacancy is a
two (2) year term. `��-.lications were received by applicants that have been
previously intervie 4 aff asked if the Council would like to re -advertise the vacancy
again noting it is a t . (2) year term.
Council directed staff to re -advertise the EDAC vacancy noting it is for a two (2) year
term.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, DAN TESCH
Staff advised the next Comprehensive Plan work session is schedule for Friday, February
16, 2001, 7:00 a.m. Al Brixius and the City Planner will be present.
SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING WITH TARGET, DAN TESCH
Staff advised the only times in February to meet with Target for a special meeting is on a
Saturday.
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Council directed staff to call each Council Member directly to schedule a special meeting
with Target.
REGULAR AGENDA, FEBRUARY 12, 2001
Item 7D, First Readings, Ordinance 01 — 01 and 02 — 02, Rezone and Comprehensive
Plan Amendment to Allocate 2.55 Acres of MUSA Reserve, and Resolution 01— 06
approving Preliminary Plat for Behm's Farm Park Addition, Century Farms Development
— Staff will confer with the City Attorney regarding legal issues relating to his project.
Council Member Dahl stated the Council has not put together goals for the City
Administrator. She asked that check points be added along with the goals and also a way
to include feedback and updates.
Council directed staff to speak to the City Administrator about how to roceed with goals
for the City Administrator.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
These minutes were considered, corrected and appy a e ar Council meeting held on
February 26, 2001.
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Ry hel Gaustad, City Cl ®' John Bergeson, Mayor
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