HomeMy WebLinkAbout10/17/2001 Council MinutesCITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION
DATE
TIME STARTED
TIME ENDED
MEMBERS PRESENT
MEMBERS ABSENT
CITY OF LINO LAKES
MINUTES
OCTOBER 17 2001
: October 17, 2001
. 5:05 p.m.
9:45 p.m.
: Councilmember Carlson, Dahl (part),
O'Donnell, Reinert and Mayor Bergeson
: None
Staff members present: City Administrator, Linda Waite Smith; City Engineer, John
Powell; Chief of Police, Dave Pecchia; Community Development Director, Mike
Grochala; City Clerk, Ann Blair; Environmental Specialist, Marty . art); Public
Services Director, Rick DeGardner (part); and City Planner, Jef
RAMSAY POOL MATTER — NEIGHBOR BOB RACERN'S.
MICHAEL GROCHALA
Community Development Director Grochala
relocating the pool on site. Staff will v. • h
the pool can be located. He indicat
discuss their concerns with the
Mr. Ranallo stated the
Zoning Board recommen
than 10 feet back.
discuss the location
to move the pool to
is moving forward with
tline the perimeters as to where
. and Mrs. Ranallo, are present to
adjacent to his front yard. The Planning and
the p 1 be moved and the pool needs to be moved further
'ef history of the situation noting Mr. Ramsay did not
ool with him. He stated he understands the City's obligation
et the setbacks but just meeting the setbacks is not enough.
Councilmember O'Donnell stated he understood that after the closed meeting staff was
going to spend the dollars allocated to move the pool to the west side of the property.
Community Development Director Grochala advised staff would look at the entire site.
The best -case scenario is moving the pool to the southwest corner of the lot. He noted the
Ramsays do have the right to use part of their yard for a pool.
Councilmember O'Donnell advised he supported spending City dollars to move the pool
to the west side of the yard. He does not support spending City dollars just to move the
pool 10 feet.
Community Development Director Grochala stated the intent of staff is to let the
Ramsays know what the setbacks area.
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Mayor Bergeson stated the Council needs to know what agreement was made on the
City's behalf between the City Attorney and the Ramsays.
Councilmember O'Donnell requested the proposed resolution be brought back before
Council for review.
Councilmember Carlson indicated she agrees with Councilmember O'Donnell. She
stated she is concerned about spending City dollars without having an agreeable solution
to both parties.
Mayor Bergeson stated staff needs to visit the site and determine where the Ramsays
intend on locating the pool. The City can then go from there. Staff will notify the
Ranallos when the site visit will take place and hopefully they will be able to participate.
MAR DON ACRES, SUBDIVISION REQUEST/DISCUSS PETITION AND
UPCOMING NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, JEFF SMYSER
City Planner Smyser distributed a map and memo regarding ',. s ated the City
has received a request from four (4) residents in the Mar D • � ` , c s d subdivide
their property. The subdivision should be feasible, ho r i o a number of
larger issues, and so it will necessarily be a multi-st ay require some time
and phasing.
City Planner Smyser reviewed a preli °E • ager issues within the memo
emphasizing that the City will wantected lots as a group. Also, a re -plat
is necessary to further subdivi • of# • e City will also need an entire lot
accessible to sewer and w ` it is bdivided. Staff is looking for direction
.
regarding whether or n�5 • e° 'ghborhood meeting relating to this issue.
Councilmember C
is already sewer do
advised that would
if it is possible to subdivide the lots in half because there
Street. Community Development Director Grochala
ate non -conforming lots.
Councilmember Carlson stated the residents had been told they could subdivide off the
back of their lots. Subdividing off the front end could be quite expensive.
It was the consensus of Council to direct staff to hold a neighborhood meeting to discuss
the issues involved with subdividing the property.
MOLIN CONCRETE, AMENDED CUP, AMENDED IUP, AND SITE PLAN
REVIEW, JEFF SMYSER
City Planner Smyser advised Molin Concrete Products Company has submitted
application for amendments to the existing conditional use permit (CUP), amendments to
the existing interim use permit, and for a site plan review. The requested amendments
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would change several of the conditions that were adopted with previous approvals. The
site plan review application is for a new manufacturing building on the site. The new
building also is an amendment to the conditional use permit.
The Council has conducted numerous discussions of the issues relevant to the Molin site.
The City approved a rezoning in December 1968 and issued a special use permit to Molin
in January 1969 to construct a concrete plant. The Sherwood Green residential plat was
approved in 1978. Conflicts exist between the two land uses.
City Planner Smyser advised that after the Planning and Zoning meeting, the issues
relating to this item include conflicting land uses, question of what is appropriate in the
neighborhood, and noise and screening.
City Planner Smyser advised the City is having sound tests done and hopefully the results
will be received by Monday's meeting.
City Planner Smyser advised the Planning and Zoning Board did a' 'o application
based on added conditions. He reviewed the added conditions ti o hours of
operation and the required plantings. He advised staff does o � ' _ including the
condition relating to hours of operation because it is too bi - p u • can't be
enforced. Molin has requested that the condition re s be deleted because
it is a variation of the original 1997 conditions
Councilmember O'Donnell stated he
in the open will be eliminated when
stated there is a lot of activity
continue. However, if the
indoors to eliminate th
t' a sue of the equipment running out
ity is built. City Planner Smyser
ading the trucks. That activity will
ved a lot of the operations will be moved
A resident indicate
were upset because
of 5:00 a.m. is too e
nts present at the Planning and Zoning Board meeting
not get to comment on the hours of operation. The start time
y and there has been no compromise for the residents.
A representative from Molin Concrete stated it is not Molin's intent to run a 24-hour
operation. General hours are from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Extraordinary circumstances
may happen that can cause extra hours of operation, but that will be infrequent. The
beeper noise has been eliminated from 8:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m.
City Planner Smyser requested the Council read the conditions of approval in the report
and the final resolution, especially the conditions 13a, b, c, d, as well and the landscaping
conditions. He reviewed the staff condition relating to the tree plantings noting that 5-6
foot trees should be included in condition 14b.
A representative from Molin Concrete stated there is already a very thick grove of trees
on the edge of the property.
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Councilmember Carlson requested estimates of costs relating to the Planning and Zoning
Board recommendation compared to the staff recommendation from the City's
Environmental Specialist.
A representative from Molin Concrete stated they received an estimate of approximately
$35,000-40,000 for the additional trees.
Councilmember Dahl stated she also wants estimates from the City's Environmental
Specialist. She stated she is concerned about the hours of operation expanding due to the
additional facility. ,
This item will appear on the regular Council agenda Monday, October 22, 2001, 6:30
p.m.
Councilmember Dahl excused herself from the meeting at 6:35 p.m.
CLEARWATER CREEK, 5TH ADDITION, GRADING MATT
POSSIBLE ALLOCATION OF MUSA. JEFF SMYSER
City Planner Smyser pointed out the Clearwater Creek 5
is outside of the MUSA. A preliminary plat was ap
phasing plan. The City does not have any MU
developer is asking to do the grading in the
Staff is not opposed to the grading taki
Mayor Bergeson asked if the
opposed to waiting on the
rights the developer h
now that has to do with
e map noting it
at included a
to this project. The
it can't be developed now.
ut them in a different position legally as
ity "gineer Powell advised the City conveyed any
was approved. There is a good reason to grade
age i ues.
Councilmember Re uired about the possibility of erosion on the site. City
Engineer Powell ad ed the developer would re -vegetate after the grading.
City Planner Smyser advised he will confer with the City Attorney for clarification
regarding any additional rights to the developer if the grading takes place now.
Councilmember O'Donnell stated he wants to understand what development is in the
pipeline relating to the Comprehensive Plan and the number of houses that can be built
within the next few years. City Planner Smyser advised staff is currently working on that
data.
It was the consensus of Council to direct staff to allow the developer to proceed with the
grading depending upon the clarification from the City Attorney.
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CSAH 49 RECONSTRUCTION UPDATE, JOHN POWELL
City Engineer Powell distributed and reviewed a memo from Dick Thompson regarding
the Highway 49 meeting that was held on Monday. The memo outlined what took place
at the meeting and included a list of people in attendance.
TOWN CENTER UPDATE, MICHAEL GROCHALA
Community Development Director Grochala advised a lot of grading is being done on the
Marketplace site. The final plat will be reviewed at the Council meeting on Monday.
Staff will be in front of the Livable Communities Grant Committee on Friday for a
question and answer session relating to the City's application.
ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES
Trade -a -Tree Program, Michael Grochala — Community Developm ' Director
Grochala advised because of problems with trees and power lines, • o_s has been put
together with Xcel Energy and the Tree Trust that calls for Cit o e. $. The
program will include the provision of two (2) trees for eve a tie removed due
to power lines. Xcel will put the trees in. The City sh, #ill ° lu a stump grinding and
chemical control. The City does have dollars in the e costs.
Councilmember Reinert asked why the City
having the problems. Community Dev
Xcel would just come in and cut th
involved for a cooperative effo
in the cost when Xcel is the one
tor Grochala advised that typically
no replacement. The Tree Trust got
NEMO (Non -point Ed nicipal Officials), Michael Grochala —
Community Deve ..menti , recto Grochala advised NEMO is a surface water
management pro: R . . funded by the Metropolitan Council. The program will
include NEMO rep 0 ves coming to the City to meet with the various Boards to
address surface watt anagement issues and how to deal with those issues. This
program is free to the City and is a great educational opportunity.
REVIEW PROPOSED RESOLUTION REGARDING PARTICIPATION IN
LIVABLE COMMUNITIES ACT/LOCAL HOUSING INCENTIVES PROGRAM,
JEFF SMYSER
City Planner Smyser advised the City has to adopt a resolution that states Lino Lakes
elects to continue to participate in the Livable Communities Program. The City must
participate to be eligible for Town Center funding, including the $1.5 million grant the
City just applied for.
This item will appear on the regular Council agenda Monday, October 22, 2001, 6:30
p.m.
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PROPOSED ORDINANCE RELATING TO METH LABS, DAVE PECCHIA
Chief Pecchia advised if there are no questions regarding the draft ordinance relating to
meth labs that was distributed at the last Council work session, the ordinance will be on
the regular agenda Monday evening.
This item will appear on the regular Council agenda Monday, October 22, 2001, 6:30
p.m.
DISCUSSION SURVEY OF PENALTIES FOR VIOLATION OF LIQUOR
LICENSES, DAVE PECCHIA
Chief Pecchia advised if the Council is supportive of the matrix that was distributed at the
last Council work session, staff will do more research and bring it before the Council for
approval.
Councilmember O'Donnell stated his only concern is a license d •ulg ail four (4)
times per year. Chief Pecchia advised the system is for a _ (ye, od and the
Police Department will do two (2) compliance checks •er, e. "`les icense holder
fails. More compliance checks will be done if a lic
Chief Pecchia noted the Police Department ails about suspicious mail. Staff
has done a brief training on how to dex r e c s.
Councilmember Carlson requQ `� t `' a future work session regarding how the
County and City are prep rron threats.
Mayor Bergeson a used fro" the meeting and recessed the Council work session
for a joint meeting he vironmental Board at 7:10 p.m.
Mayor Bergeson recvened the Council work session at 9:30 p.m.
DISCUSS PARK BOARD RECOMMENDATION REGARDING BIRCH PARK
TRAIL, RICK DEGARDNER
Public Services Director DeGardner advised the Park Board has recommended the
Council direct the City Attorney to begin condemnation proceedings for the two (2) acre
parcel of property necessary to provide a trail access from the Trappers Crossing
development to Birch Park. He briefly reviewed the background of this issue noting the
reasons that staff concurs with the Park Board's recommendation.
Mayor Bergeson suggested the possibility of an agreement to buy the parcel in the future
with the use of an easement in the interim. Public Services Director DeGardner stated the
Park Board has looked at all options and determined condemnation is the only option.
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Mayor Bergeson suggested an agreement be laid out by the City to not pursue
condemnation with the use of an easement and the understanding that the City will buy
the parcel in the future.
Public Services Director DeGardner stated he would need to confer with the City
Attorney regarding the legality of that type of agreement.
Council directed staff to confer with the City Attorney regarding the legality of an
agreement not to pursue condemnation with the use of an easement and the understanding
that the City will purchase the two -acre parcel in the future.
This item was removed from the regular Council agenda for further investigation.
REGULAR AGENDA, OCTOBER 22, 2001
Council directed staff to determine if a closed meeting is necess e regular
Council meeting to discuss litigation with the City Attorney.
Item 6A, Consideration of Resolution No. 01-172, A
Trapper's Crossing Trail — This item was removed
The meeting was adjourned at 9:45 p.m.
=nation for
These minutes were considered, co = a roved at the regular Council meeting held on
November 13, 2001.
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