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HomeMy WebLinkAbout11/21/2001 Council MinutesCITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION DATE TIME STARTED TIME ENDED MEMBERS PRESENT MEMBERS ABSENT NOVEMBER 21, 2001 CITY OF LINO LAKES MINUTES : November 21, 2001 . 5:30 p.m. . 9:05 p.m. : Councilmember Car Dahl, O'Donnell : Reinert and Mayor Staff members present: Administration Director, Dan Tesc Chief of Police, Dave Pecchia (part); Community Develo City Clerk, Arm Blair (part); Public Services Director, Ri Jeff Smyser r, John Powell; ctor, Mike Grochala; er; and City Planner, DISCUSS POSSIBLE SPRING, 2002 REFE CK DEGARDNER Public Services Director DeGardner distrib referendum that included the Park Board referendum scenario. He indicated tha thinks it would be difficult to pursue a Council direction on whether or n tion regarding a possible 2002 ovember 5, 2001 and a possible ossible referendum scenario, he ndum for less than $8 million. He asked for with the referendum. Councilmember Carlson asked much ding would be needed to get all the parks caught up. Public Services ' r o dner stated approximately another $2 million would be needed. The ch. enge he , ° ' pact on residential development is fairly high. As additional com . ial am residential development occurs, taxes should go down. Part of - ferend ` •' s will pay back the Area and Trunk Fund for the cost of the land. Councilmember C. +n indicated she is supportive of pursuing a spring referendum. Councilmember O'Do ell indicated he is also supportive of a spring referendum. Mr. George Lindy, Chair of the Park Board, stated the Park Board does not feel like they have to sell the referendum. Residents need to decide whether or not they want to support it. Council directed staff to move forward with a spring referendum for the athletic complex and neighborhood parks. CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION NOVEMBER 21, 2001 Administration Director Tesch asked Public Service Director DeGardner to contact Councilmember Reinert and Mayor Bergeson regarding their opinion on a spring referendum. SSR & W MINOR SUBDIVISION REQUEST, JEFF SMYSER City Planner Smyser advised that Mr. Willard Morton's firm, SSR & W Development, LLC, owns property in Lino Lakes. The SSR & W property includes 80+ acres in Section 9. The application is to split off 11 acres from an existing 40 -acre parcel, and combine the new 11 -acre piece with a one -acre strip that connects to Main Street. SSR & W would then sell the new lot to allow for a new home site. Staff tands that Mr. Brad Racutt wants to buy the property and build a new home. The application raises numerous important issues regarding impl ntati. `of the long- range plan for the City, as represented in the 2001 Compre ; ` ity Planner Smyser reviewed the staff analysis noting the Planning oard considered the application on November 14. The staff report at that a de s e recommendation that the minor subdivision be approved only if a road e.,e me ,+edicated to the City that includes the one -acre piece and the eastern 66 : eet o e larger 11 -acre parcel. The Planning and Zoning Board agreed that and Zoning Board thought the full 66 feet s include the one -acre strip. However, the to reduce the right-of-way dedication of the full 66 feet. The other 33 feet is t develops. This would distribute Staff does support this minor c approval were amended to indica is appropriate. The Planning icated on the north, which would oning Board recommendation is portion of the site to 33 feet instead acquired when and if property to the east pplying land for the future right-of-way. ecommendation and the conditions of City Planner Smyser adv' application as submitted is to forego an opportunity for implemen n of e City's long-range plan. If the City is to implement its long-range .` • e.rese'"`$in the 2001 Comprehensive Plan, it must recognize opportunities to Q t to: i vidual pieces. The 2001 Comprehensive Plan, the Transportation P1ch is a key element, and the 1999 Access Management Plan all point to providing future road connection. This would provide safe access and circulation for existin- roperties and for future development, if it occurs. The subdivision ordinance supports this by prohibiting the creation of flag lots. Access to the new lot will be from Main Street. As long as this is the access intended by both the City and the applicant, it is reasonable to make the access a public right-of-way that accomplishes a number of public purposes. In addition, it provides continued access to the adjacent property. Councilmember Carlson expressed concern because the City has already compromised this plan as far as the road to the south. There is also a median on 77th that loses the CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION NOVEMBER 21, 2001 connection to Apollo. She stated the City is building a road that no longer has a connection. She asked how the road would line up when asking for the 66 feet. Mr. Tim Kytona, Surveyor, suggested the City grant access where the access is in lieu of placing easements in place for roads. The flag lot would be an existing flag lot. Councilmember Carlson asked about all the pine trees if the road was developed. A resident adjacent to the property stated the roadway might be too close to his house. City Planner Smyser stated staff is not proposing pavement, just '' t of way. The City needs to get the right-of-way to implement the future -connecting Councilmember O'Donnell suggested taking 33 feet down the w City Planner Smyser asked what would then happen to the it aligns. e strip. The resident stated he thought there would be a road t chased the house. It was all one piece of property and each part wants the o way. He suggested the two property owners split the 66 -foot strip of 1 x • d so ch property owner has their own driveway. Councilmember O'Donnell noted the City h to lim ^ he number of accesses on Main Street. Councilmember Carlson stated she wou ® ther see some type of a resolution between the two parties related to that lane Y e a oot easement to the east. City Planner Smyser noted the tress ou of be endangered at 33 feet of 66 feet. Mr. Brad Racutt stated h compromise before the Councilmember negotiate and the to . the application for more time to reach a ews it. 'art of the problem is between the property owners to sue is a City concern. Councilmember O'Dell noted the City has to acquire some right-of-way. This item was removed from the regular Council agenda Monday, November 26, 2001. CSAH 49 RECONSTRUCTION UPDATE, MICHAEL GROCHALA/JOHN POWELL City Engineer Powell distributed a memo from Dick Thompson summarizing the neighborhood meeting held on November 12. He reviewed the memo noting an CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION NOVEMBER 21, 2001 addendum was added to the October 29 meeting summary relating to the resident's concerns and unhappiness with the road plan. City Engineer Powell stated the plan is to bring a road design to the Council work session on December 5, 2001. He stated he believes the County has compromised on some issues and the speed study that was done did indicate the speed limit should be raised. A context sensitive design is the tool to use to get the speed limit lowered to 45 mph. Another neighborhood meeting will be held Monday, November 26, 2001. Community Development Director Grochala advised he was present at the meeting. Some of the citizens that are involved are unhappy and don't fee r concerns are being heard. Residents seem to be more interested in a temporary fix fo K«:: ad. If the City does nothing the roadway will still have a 50 -mph speed limit. . temp fix is done the speed limit will be 50 mph and the City will have to acquire e ri_ of --way. The plan at this point has not achieved any of the features that e M ` context sensitive design roadway that will get the speed limit to 4 p noted what issues would be discussed and reviewed at the next meeting. Acting Mayor Dahl inquired about the County solution r ting to property owners that would lose a lot of their property and the idea of g-. s in the roadway. Community Development Director Grochal have a surveyor out there to determine th already has gentle curves in it and it w hard to have more curves down the roa of the road. County has made arrangements to perty owners. Highway 49 e more at the bridge. It will be because there is development on both sides Councilmember O'Donnell aske north of Birch Street. City Birch Street is not feasib limit will still be 50 mph. MnDOT may no at the ty is open to the context sensitive design ell stated the context sensitive design north of treetscaping and landscaping but the speed of the roadway will be consistent. The concern is in two pieces like the City does. Councilmember when it is presente stated the plan woul ell as ed i the plan would show the alignment as well as design the City Council. Community Development Director Grochala ow the alignment as well as roadway design. Mr. Arnie Entzel, resident of Lino Lakes, stated it is rather disturbing because it sounds like the plan is cut and dried. It sounds like there was nothing brought to the meeting by residents that made a difference. Residents were willing to make changes. The problem is the four -lane highway and that is what the residents thought the meeting was about. He passed out a copy of what residents want for the roadway. He stated it is ridiculous for people to lose their land for a four -lane highway that goes nowhere. The majority of residents who attended the meetings are opposed to a four -lane highway and the meeting 4 CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION NOVEMBER 21, 2001 summaries are not indicating that. The residents were led to believe that they would have input to the road design. The only input residents have had is where to put the bushes. Mr. John Hudgens, resident of Lino Lakes, stated he finds it hard to believe that Ramsey County can do things that Anoka County cannot. Shoreview lowered the speed limit on that roadway and it seems that they are still getting the turn -back funds. He stated he feels that Anoka County can do the same things, but they don't want to. Residents were told that the old design was out and the plan would start over. The road is still a four -(4) lane road. The County did change the speed limit to 45 mph but did not change the amount of right of way or the amount of lanes. He expressed concern regarding the construction easement and noted residents do not want to lose th ees. The southbound roadway at two (2) spots is the only problem with the urn lanes would eliminate the two -(2) problem areas. Ms. Connie Grundhofer, resident of Lino Lakes, stated tha the County indicated it was a clean slate and the process Residents at that time asked about limitations and wer to fourth meeting residents found out there are limitation noted Mr. Thompson did not get back to her regar Councilmember Carlson stated she is conce residents' concerns that have been discusse increasing the speed limit was not stated attended some of the meetings and she the residents the road requirements at th how the current plan differs from know what the County has co (2) meetings ver again. e none. At the are frustrated. She equired road width. he Council is not hearing the tings. She noted the possibility of of MnDOT. She stated she has em is that the County did not give t meeting. She stated she does not know ans presented. She stated she needs to Councilmember Carlson co to a stalemate and a corn Ramsey County does not concerned that ! . ess approved. she is concerned that the City is going to come und. She also expressed concern that d the same type of roadway. She stated she is ing down and the City will not have a road that will be Community Development Director Grochala reviewed the history of the roadway project noting there are reasons why the two counties have different criteria for roads. He reviewed the policy relating to temporary easements. City Engineer Powell indicated he will request a written statement from Ramsey County regarding this issue. He will also ask the County if they can have 86 feet of right of way if the City purchases the additional right of way. He noted -the City does have the need for utility extensions down to County Road J. Councilmember O'Donnell stated he is very concerned that if the City doesn't work this out while it has a voice the County will do the project without City approval. CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION NOVEMBER 21, 2001 City Engineer Powell stated that after the meeting Monday night, he will ask the County to develop the most narrow road plan that is acceptable and then the Council can vote on it. DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL AND ED VAUGHN Mr. Ed Vaughn came forward and stated he needs to be included in the MUSA on an island he owns. He asked what the process is to obtain the MUSA. City Planner Smyser advised Mr. Vaughn has submitted an appl island. Staff has been reviewing that application. Letters have bee indicating the application is incomplete. Mr. Vaughn does not a application should continue to be processed. When the applicati processed. He noted the City has approximately 15 acres of needs approximately 3 Y2 acres. on to plat lots on the t to Mr. Vaughn is the Ited it will be T. Vaughn Mr. Vaughn stated it would cost approximately $50,00 o specifications on the bridge. City Engineer Powell advised the City has no for lig°specs on the bridge. The City does not have enough information to review a app . tion. City Planner Smyser stated the City docs iot n a `specifications on the bridge, but more information is needed. At this pointe City has a drawing on a piece of paper. City Engineer Powell distributed regarding the outstanding info stated he would like a writt information. Mr. Vaughn sta City immediate he etter sent to Mr. Vaughn's attorney s necessary to process the application. He m Mr. Vaughn's engineer regarding the was sent out yesterday and a copy -will be faxed to the SHIRLEY KAYE IGHTING, JEFF SMYSER City Planner Smyser a ised when the Shirley Kaye's project was reviewed there were no lights proposed in the parking lot. There was a discussion of lighting in relation to the lake. The Police Department has since expressed concern regarding safety in the parking lot. Staff would like to contact Shirley Kaye's to discuss the lighting issue. Staff would prefer that they do not have to do the whole site plan review for just the lighting. The Environmental Board and Planning and Zoning Board are agreeable to that as long as the lighting meets the City ordinance. The City does not typically review lighting plans apart from the original site plan review. Council directed staff to work directly with Shirley Kay's regarding the lighting issue. CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION NOVEMBER 21, 2001 DRAFT INTERIM ORDINANCE PROHIBITING RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS, JEFF SMYSER/MICHAEL GROCHALA City Planner Smyser distributed a memo regarding the adoption of an interim ordinance. He referred to the draft ordinance noting the purpose of the moratorium is to allow time for the City to amend its ordinances to implement the Comprehensive Plan. He reviewed the draft ordinance noting what the moratorium will and will not include. Councilmember O'Donnell referred to the cover sheet that states "an interim ordinance that will prohibit new residential ..." and stated the word "prohibit" indicates something that is not in the spirit intended by the ordinance. He requested s change the wording. City Planner Smyser reviewed the schedule for the interim ordin a ce no 't would be effective 30 days after it is published. He also distributed and re ed a; ntative schedule for Amending Official Controls. He noted it will s ction to extend the moratorium. Community Development Director Grochala advised o velopment Assistant Divine is working on a press release to give info tion out the moratorium. MAR DON ACRES SUBDIVISION REO T .'DATE, JEFF SMYSER City Planner Smyser advised a neighbor issue. There are some residents in the issues surrounding the subdivision were subdividing. A cost estimate base Staff did not advise the residen together. The meeting went well the City know what they w was held last night regarding this that to subdivide their property. The ewed along with the process involved in assumptions was provided at the meeting. choose to subdivide they should pursue it idents will have further discussions and let REGULAR AGENDA, ®;. ; OBER 22, 2001 Item 7A, Consid aho Res l ° n 01-185, Approving Minor Subdivision, SSR & W Development, LL m removed from the agenda. The meeting was adjoiied at 9:05 p.m. These minutes were considered, corrected and approved at the regular Council meeting held on December 17, 2001. CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION NOVEMBER 21, 2001 Ann Bl , City Clerk Transcribed by: Kim Points TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc. ergeso', Mayor 8