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CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION
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TIME STARTED
TIME ENDED
MEMBERS PRESENT
MEMBERS ABSENT
CITY OF LINO LAKES
MINUTES
SEPTEMBER 18, 2002
: September 18, 2002
. 5:37 p.m.
. 10:13 p.m.
: Councilmember Dahl, Carlson,
O'Donnell (5:53 p.m.) and Reinert
: Mayor Bergeson
Staff members present: City Administrator, Linda Waite Smith; .Community
Development Director, Michael Grochala; City Engineer, Jim Studenski (part); and Chief
of Police, Dave Pecchia (part)
MARTY BOECKMAN, HOLTE POND MATTERE, JIM STUDENSKI
Mr. Boeckman distributed a picture of the area in question taken when he first purchased
the property. He also distributed information fit& ie Rice Creek Watershed District
regarding the reason why the City should mitigate the pond. He noted nothing was
determined at the Rice Creek Watershed District's last meeting.
City Engineer Studenski advised the next meeting regarding this issue is Monday,
September 23 at 9:00 a.m.
Mr. Boeckman indicated the City may be exempt from the pond mitigation and that will
be determined at the next meetin
City Engineer Studenski stated that once a decision is made, staff has stressed that the
situation needs to be taken care of as soon as possible. Mitigation should not hold the
construction back. If it is determined that the pond does not have to be mitigated, work
will begin in approximately two weeks. The pond was pumped one foot below the
basement level this morning. The water level in the pond will continue to be monitored.
Acting Mayor Reinert asked where the City would mitigate the pond. City Engineer
Studenski advised the City has already been approved for mitigation in the Otter Lake
area.
Mr. Boeckman inquired about any delay from the contractor gaining access to the pond.
City Engineer Studenski stated the contractor has not indicated any problem with gaining
access to the area to complete the project.
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION SEPTEMBER 18, 2002
S. TRAPPER'S CROSSING DRAINAGE ISSUES, JIM STUDENSKI AND
MICHAEL GROCHALA
Community Development Director Grochala stated there are drainage issues specifically
in S. Trapper's Crossing as well as throughout the entire City. A letter has been sent to
all builders regarding erosion control measures being in place by Monday, September 23.
The City will withhold all permits until the erosion measures are put in place. The City
also sent out letters regarding non-compliance. Staff wants the erosion measures in place
before the clean up work is completed. Some builders are refusing to do the work, which
may cause legal action by the builder or City. Staff is still trying to get Mr. Hokenson out
on Durango Point. Staff can issue him an ultimatum if Council gives staff that direction.
Community Development Director Grochala reviewed the background of the drainage
issues on Durango Point noting Mr. Hokanson had previously agreed to re -grade the area.
However, several years ago, Mr. Hokanson did receive a letter from the engineering firm
that indicated all criteria on the project has been met and accepted by the City. He added
he does believe that drain tile and a top layer of sand and rock'," • ', resolve the drainage
problems.
Mr. Kurt Byron, 1150 Hudson Trail, came forward%and distributed copies of a petition
that is being passed around by the residents. Thepetitioll requested that either the City or
Mr. Hokanson remove the excessive sand from culverts. The damage has already been
done and the culverts have to be cleaned out a soon,as possible. Nothing has been done
on this issue in the last month and everyo*in S.Trapper's Crossing will sign the
petition.
City Engineer Studenski stated the
City indicating that once the cerci
responsible.
for Mr. Hokanson is preparing a letter for the
upancy was obtained Mr. Hokanson is not
Mr. Larry Farr, 6432 Cherokee 1, stated the residents have had standing water for
years and it seems that no one will do anything about it.
Councilmember O'Donnell asked staff if the City has a plan to take care of the drainage
issues.
Community Development Director Grochala stated the problem is that the City is not
aware of all the problems. Staff hears new complaints every week.
Councilmember O'Donnell stated the City needs to go through the entire development
and determine exactly what the drainage problems are.
Councilmember Dahl asked if the builders are required to clean up rock, dirt, etc. every
day. Community Development Director Grochala stated there is verbiage in the
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• developer's agreement regarding that issue. However, the requirements that were noted
in the recent letter sent to builders are only implied.
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Mr. Byron requested a copy of the developer's agreement.
Councilmember Dahl advised the houses in that area were supposed to be built as look
outs. The look out lots that were changed to walkouts may have caused the drainage
problems.
Community Development Director Grochala advised that sometimes homes are raised to
accommodate a walkout.
Councilmember Carlson read a letter from ARC regarding the water problems on the
McGuire property. The letter indicated the McGuire's are being advised to hire an
attorney to address the problem. She stated she does not understand why builders can
change plans midway through a project. She noted that she tried to look at the culvert on
Cripple Creek and it could not be seen.
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Community Development Director Grochala stated the Ci ' can not go back and right the
wrongs done in the past. The City does need to t , comprehensive view of where the
problems are and how they can be fixed. He suggeste . ving neighborhood meetings
and advised there will probably be a surface water Management project this year. The
question is who will pay for that project. The City intends to clean out on the culverts
this fall.
Councilmember Carlson stated the
developer's agreements to make
4s to look at the ordinances and the
y has recourse.
Mr. Byron advised he will obtain the rest of the signatures from residents and bring them
to City Hall on Monday.
City Engineer Studenski advised City funds will have to be used for this problem and
then later try to be reimbursed He added there are a lot of other areas within the City that
also have drainage problems.
Acting Mayor Reinert stated the City needs to have enough preparation time to conduct
the neighborhood meetings properly so this issue can be resolved.
Councilmember Dahl suggested the City Attorney draft a letter to send to the developers.
Community Development Director Grochala stated staff needs direction regarding the
letter to be sent to Mr. Hokanson regarding an ultimatum.
It was the consensus of Council to direct staff to draft a letter to send to Mr. Hokanson
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requesting that he comply within ten days.
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION SEPTEMBER 18, 2002
• SPIRIT HILLS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, MICHAEL GROCHALA
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Community Development Director Grochala stated this was discussed at the last work
session. The Council had questions regarding the striping of another lane at Birch and
Highway 49. The County has indicated they would not approve the striping of another
lane at that intersection.
Councilmember Carlson stated she would have a hard time putting commercial
development on that site and backing traffic up even more than it already is.
Community Development Director Grochala advised the traffic study indicated
commercial development on that site will not make the traffic situation worse than it
already is. There will be more congestion at peak hours. IHoted that he previously
distributed a copy of Anoka County's comments and requirements for the roadway if
development does occur. The Council has the option of turnig down all projects on that
site until Hodgson Road is reconstructed. If the CouncilApp es to''approve the
development the City will have to live with the traffic problems until reconstruction
occurs.
Councilmember Carlson asked if the County would allow the developer to put the turn
lane in.
Acting Mayor Reinert suggested the developers work together and discuss funding for the
roadway and the development in the entire area.
Councilmember Carlson expressed coneerntegarding two service stations in the area.
She stated she does not want topiece meal the project.
Councilmember Dahl stat he would also like to see the whole picture at once. It
makes sense that the developers ould fund the roadway improvements if they want to
develop the area.
Community Development Director Grochala stated there are roadway issues and
problems at the intersection. Dealing with several different property owners also causes
issues. He advised the City has to take action on Spirit Hills on Monday unless the
developer agrees to an extension.
Chief Pecchia advised that making a bad intersection worse will impact public safety and
more officers will be needed.
Councilmember Carlson asked for a written statement from the Police Department
regarding the public safety issue.
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Councilmember O'Donnell stated he does like the project but believes there should be
some kind of road improvements before development occurs.
Councilmember Dahl stated she is concerned about the traffic. The City does not have
the roads in place to support the development.
Ms. Margaret Marier, 6517 Hokah, stated she has talked to several residents in the
development area. They have indicated they are not very excited about having a
convenience store in the area.
Councilmember Dahl stated she is not happy with the gas station because it does not fit in
the area.
Councilmember Carlson stated she could not support the development without road
improvements.
Councilmember O'Donnell advised he would review the:tral& study again before a vote
is taken.
This item will appear on the regular Council agend:Monday, September 23, 2002, 6:30
pm
CSAH 49 (HODGSON ROAD) DISCUSSION MICHAEL GROCHALA
Community Development Director Gros ala advised the Council had asked at the last
meeting if the money is still available: for the project and if the County will build the
project if the City agrees to the County's plan. The County Engineer has indicated the
dollars for the project are being,identi fied fc other uses. The County Engineer will not
recommend to the County Board moving forward with the project even if the City
approves the plan with iii&butlined compromises. The bridge and intersection will be
constructed in 2005. The"(itywillbe receiving a formal letter regarding this issue from
the County.
Community Development Director Grochala stated the issue at this point is not the
availability of funds. The issue is if the City is committed to getting the project done.
Ms. Lynn Heaser, resident of Lino Lakes, stated she believes the County has until
December for the turn back funds.
Community Development Director Grochala stated there is a specific time limit in which
the County has to use the MnDOT turn back funds.
Ms. Heaser stated she is supportive of the resolution. She suggested including the details
of the project in the resolution.
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Mr. Bob Bening, resident of Lino Lakes, stated the development in the area is hinged on
the road improvements but the Council can not agree on the road improvements. It is
time to move forward.
City Administrator Waite Smith advised the Highway 49 resolution is not on the agenda
for Monday night. At the last meeting the resolution was tabled to the September 23
Council meeting. She asked if there is anything staff can do to the resolution so the full
Council will approve it. She suggested the resolution should not be put on the agenda
unless the full Council will approve it.
Councilmember Carlson stated she would like to get the letter from the County to know
where the City stands before the resolution is put on the Council agenda.
Councilmember O'Donnell stated there is nothing in the letter that will change his mind
about the resolution. He indicated he is supportive of the resolution. He also suggested
the letter that the City sent to the County in June be referenced in the resolution.
Councilmember Reinert stated he is not in favor of a four -lane divided highway down the
middle of Lino Lakes. He stated he does not like the design and will not give in.
It was the consensus of the Council to add the Highway 49 Resolution to the regular
Council agenda Monday, September 23, 2002‘6:30' .m.
ELM STREET/62ND AVENUE TRAF
MICHAEL GROCHALA
City Engineer Studenski advised
Street and 62nd Street on Monda
assessments and City policy reg
the report on Monday.
STUDIES, JIM STUDENSKI AND
be presenting the feasibility report for Elm
Sta; 'is working with the City Attorney on
g assessments. Those answers will be included in
City Engineer Studenski reviewed the details of both feasibility studies noting the next
step in the process will be to accept the study and hold a public hearing on the proposed
improvements.
Overall resident concerns are drainage issues. Most of the funding for the road will come
from State Aid Funds. The assessment amount for Elm Street is approximately $600,000
and $500,00 for 62nd Street. There will be a lot of right-of-way acquisition necessary for
the 62nd Street project. He noted that currently there is not MUSA available on the south
end of 62nd Street.
This item will appear on the regular Council agenda Monday, September 23, 2002, 6:30
p.m.
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION SEPTEMBER 18, 2002
• PETE NADEAU, 6651 20TH AVENUE, WATER HOOK-UP ASSESSMENT,
MICHAEL GROCHALA
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Community Development Director Grochala stated Mr. Nadeau previously moved a
house to another property within the City. The property does have a trunk water main so
Mr. Nadeau would like to hook up to City services. The cost of the hook up is $40,626.
With the Bisel Amendment the hook up costs would be $5,000 - $7,000. If the house had
been on the property when the utilities came through the cost would also be $5,000 -
$7,000. Mr. Nadeau has requested he pay the assessment amount according to the Bisel
Amendment.
City Administrator Waite Smith advised a special work session to review City policies
including the Bisel Amendment will be scheduled at some point in the future.
Council directed staff to continue to work with Mr. Nadeau o s issue but the City can
not exempt him from the current City policy.
CONSIDER JOINING 35E COALITION, LINDA V ITE SMITH
City Administrator Waite Smith advised the issue of a 35E coalition was raised at the
joint meeting in Hugo. This issue was placed on the agenda so the Council could discuss
it before a decision is made.
Councilmember O'Donnell clarified that f would participate in the coalition. He
indicated he is in favor of forming a co
City Administrator Waite Smith indicated she is unsure about the costs of the coalition.
The costs can not be determined until the number of participants is known.
It was the consensus of Co cil to participate in the 35E coalition.
SCHEDULE GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORK SESSION, LINDA WAITE
SMITH
City Administrator Waite Smith distributed calendars for September and October and
asked that a Growth Management work session be scheduled.
The Growth Management work session was scheduled for Wednesday, October 2, 2002,
6:00 p.m.
REGULAR AGENDA, SEPTEMBER 23, 2002
Item 7D, Consider Resolution No. 02 — 117, Approving Variance and a Minor
Subdivision, 855 Ash Street (Lindahl Property) — Council directed staff to include a copy
of the Planning and Zoning Board minutes regarding this issue in the Friday updates.
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There were no other changes to the regular Council agenda.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:13 p.m.
These minutes were considered, corrected and approved at the regular Council meeting held on
October 14, 2002.
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Ann Blair "City Clerk
Transcribed by:
Kim Points
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.
Berg on, Mayor
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