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CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION MAY 21, 2003
APPROVED
CITY OF LINO LAKES
MINUTES
DATE : May 21, 2003
TIME STARTED : 5:34 p.m.
TIME ENDED : 8:43 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT : Councilmember Dahl (part), Carlson,
O'Donnell, Reinert and Mayor Bergeson
MEMBERS ABSENT : None
Staff members present: City Administrator, Linda Waite Smith; Community
Development Director, Michael Grochala; City Engineer, Jim Studenski; Chief of Police,
Dave Pecchia (part); City Planner, Jeff Smyser; and City Clerk, Ann Blair
POSTING OF SIGNS IN CITY HALL, CHIEF PECCHIA
Chief Pecchia requested Council direction regarding the posting of signs prohibiting
firearms in the City Hall Complex. He stated the school district will be posting signs in
the Early Childhood Center. Due to changes in the firearm laws, the Council may want
to consider posting the signs at all doors within the Civic Complex.
Council determined the posting of signs would be discussed at a future Council work
session.
SIGN ORDINANCE, FOLLOW-UP TO DISCUSSION REGARDING BANNERS
AT 4/28/03 COUNCIL MEETING OPEN MIKE, MICHAEL GROCHALA
Community Development Director Grochala advised there has been some issues in regard
to banners within the City. The City does have a sign ordinance that limits the use of
banners unless used with a portable sign permit. The City does allow use of banners four
times a year for a time period of fifteen days each time. Letters were sent to violators of
the sign ordinance to remove their banners. The current ordinance was adopted in 1997.
He reviewed the specifications of the City's sign ordinance noting what is and is not
permitted.
Mayor Bergeson stated he believes the City does need to review its regulations on
temporary signs. The question is the frequency and the number of signs that are
appropriate. He stated the City does, however, need some limits.
Community Development Director Grochala advised staff could evaluate the restrictions
within the ordinance. In some aspects the current ordinance is very permissive.
Mr. Chad Wagner, Miller's on Main, stated Miller's usually has two banners outside the
establishment that are changed every month. Banners are the best way to advertise to the
community. The current ordinance is of no benefit to small business owners.
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION MAY 21, 2003
APPROVED
• Mayor Bergeson inquired about size restrictions for banners. Community Development
Director Grochala advised the ordinance has no restrictions on the size of the banners.
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Mayor Bergeson stated he believes the City can make some effort to expand what the
City permits. The ordinance should be referred to staff for review and brought forward
with options and recommendations.
Council determined the sign ordinance will be reviewed after staff presents the Council
with more information and options.
RAVENS HOLLOW RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION,_ ROCKY GOERTZ, JEFF
SMYSER
City Planner Smyser referred to a map pointing out the project area noting part of the area
calls for low density and part of it calls for medium density. The project will require
rezoning of the property. Staff combined the two areas to calculate density. The sketch
plan includes 57 units.
City Planner Smyser reviewed the sketch plan noting it does allow for the connections of
neighborhoods. However, there are some transportation problems due to that particular
area within the City. The plan will need MUSA allocation, but not a Comprehensive Plan
amendment.
City Planner Smyser advised the developer would like some feedback on the sketch plan.
The sketch plan was a discussion item at the last Planning and Zoning Board meeting.
All but one of the Board Members agreed with the plan.
Councilmember O'Donnell asked what the plan would do to the City's growth ordinance.
City Planner Smyser advised the plan would not be developed in 2003. The plan would
have to be platted in 2004.
Mr. Rocky Goertz, developer, distributed pictures of zero lot townhomes that he
previously developed. He reviewed the specifics of the units, noting the setbacks. The
plan calls for a homeowners association for the townhomes. He stated he has met with
the neighbors and there is not any strong opposition. The townhomes would sell for
$250,000 and up.
Mayor Bergeson stated the issue is whether the plan meets the Comprehensive Plan and
the number of allowable units that can be built per year.
Councilmember Carlson referred to the 700 townhomes that are proposed to be built in
the City.She has an issue with using the 2.1 figure for low density. She stated she
believes the City needs a mix of housing but it seems the City will build low numbers of
single family units.
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CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION MAY 21, 2003
APPROVED
Community Development Director Grochala stated the City has to look at the
Comprehensive Plan and overall density for the next ten years. Down the line, more
single family units will be built.
Mayor Bergeson advised he does not have an issue with the sketch plan. It does
conceptually meet the Comprehensive Plan. He stated he does have an issue on where
the City is in terms of numbers of housing units being built.
Councilmember Dahl stated she has heard from neighbors regarding this plan. They were
very upset until they heard there would not be any single-family homes.
Mr. Goertz stated he has had another neighborhood meeting. He indicated he did show
the neighbors the location of the townhomes and it appeared there was not much
opposition to that location. He stated he would have more neighborhood meetings. He
stated he is all for a single family project, but needs Council direction. The only issue
with the single-family project is that it does not meet the Comprehensive Plan.
City Planner Smyser advised he does not believe the Metropolitan Council will approve a
Comprehensive Plan amendment for a single-family project.
Councilmember O'Donnell stated he believes the plan fits into the Comprehensive Plan.
He stated following the Comprehensive Plan and land use map is important.
Councilmember Dahl excused herself from the meeting at 6:45 p.m.
Councilmember Reinert stated he does not necessarily like high density projects but
believes the City should adhere to the Comprehensive Plan.
Mr. Goertz advised he would start work on the preliminary plat and bring it back for
Council review.
BRUGGEMAN HOMES, JEFF SMYSER
City Planner Smyser advised the site in question was discussed at a previous Council
work session. The City has received a revised site plan that does not include a gas
station. He reviewed the site plan noting access points and road improvements are the
same as what was outlined on the previous site plan. Staff does not know the exact
density at this time. The site is already within the MUSA. The plan will need a rezoning
to mixed use development. There is no Comprehensive Plan amendment necessary. The
phasing plan has yet to be determined. He indicated the developer would like feedback
on the revised site plan.
Mr. Paul Bruggeman, Bruggeman Homes, stated he would still like to pursue the site plan
with the additional commercial sites and gas station. However, that plan does not fit into
the Comprehensive Plan and it is time to move the plan forward.
Councilmember Reinert stated the site plan looks like there are approximately six units
per acre.
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION MAY 21, 2003
APPROVED
• Mr. Bruggeman stated the density is just under six units per acre. The density level needs
to be that high to provide diversity in the pricing of the units.
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Mayor Bergeson stated he does not have an issue with the commercial development on
the revised plan.
City Planner Smyser stated staff has advised Mr. Bruggeman to pull the previous
application completely and submit a new application. A PDO may be the best way to
develop the site. Staff needs to investigate further and work out more details.
Councilmember Reinert stated that staying with medium density on Ware Road would
probably satisfy the neighbors. He indicated he would like the density to be closer to
three units per acres. He also stated a park area needs to be developed within the plan.
Councilmember O'Donnell stated he is not as concerned about the density as the
transition from single family to commercial. He stated he does not have a problem with
single level duplexes on Ware Road for transition to the higher density. He suggested
that also be done where the eight-plex units are on the south end of the project.
Councilmember Carlson stated she would like to see single-family units along Ware
Road although detached townhomes may be an option. She stated screening also needs to
be included in the plan and asked if the screening between the commercial to be built and
existing residential on 49 would need to be changed because it is on the County right-of-
way.
I -35E CORRIDOR COALITION, MICHAEL GROCHALA
Community Development Director Grochala advised the I -35E Corridor Coalition held a
meeting last week in the City of Hugo. Issues were identified and many of those issues
are similar between the involved cities and counties. The City of Hugo is putting
together a draft joint powers agreement to conduct a corridor study. Staff will receive the
draft agreement for review prior to the next joint meeting.
Community Development Director Grochala advised a bus tour of the area in question
will be included at the August meeting of the Tri -City group. Staff is recommending the
City move forward with the corridor study and review of the joint powers agreement.
Councilmember Carlson stated she is concerned because it seems that the County is not
participating much with the interchanges.
Community Development Director Grochala stated he sees this as a huge opportunity for
the City to share the costs for a study the City has to do anyway. He reviewed other
issues that staff has been addressing with the County noting that the County is being very
supportive of the City.
REGULAR AGENDA, MAY 27, 2003
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CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION MAY 21, 2003
APPROVED
There were no changes to the regular agenda.
City Clerk Blair advised the City just discovered SuperTarget has been selling fireworks.
SuperTarget was apparently not aware of the permit requirement and will be submitting
an application right away, for action at the next Council meeting.
Council did discuss the possibility of beginning the June 9, 2003, City Council meeting at
a later time to accommodate the YMCA golf tournament. The Council did not make a
decision regarding this matter.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:43 p.m.
These minutes were considered, corrected and approved at the regular Council meeting held on
June 9, 2003.
Ann Blair, City Clerk John Bergeson, Mayor
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