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APPROVED
1 CITY OF LINO LAKES
2 MINUTES
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5 DATE : October 13, 2003
6 TIME STARTED : 6:38 P.M.
7 TIME ENDED : 10:10 P.M.
8 MEMBERS PRESENT : Councilmembers Carlson, Dahl, O'Donnell, Reinert
9 and Mayor Bergeson
10 MEMBERS ABSENT : None
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12 Staff members present: Acting City Administrator / Director of Administration, Dan Tesch;
13 Community Development Director, Michael Grochala; City Engineer, Jim Studenski; City Planner,
14 Jeff Smyser; Chief of Police, Dave Pecchia; City Clerk, Ann Blair; and City Attorney, Bill Hawkins.
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16 SETTING THE AGENDA
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18 The agenda was approved as presented.
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20 CONSENT AGENDA
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22 Councilmember Carlson moved to approve the Consent Agenda, as submitted. Councilmember Dahl
23 seconded the motion.
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25 Motion carried unanimously.
26
27 ITEM ACTION
28
29 A. CONSIDERATION OF EXPENDITURES:
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31 i) October 13, 2003 (Check No. 69229 —
32 69384, $474,676.31) Approved
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34 ii) Centennial Fire District (Check No. 13961 —
35 13982, $40,682.56) Approved
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37 B. CONSIDER APPROVING APPLICATION
38 FOR EXEMPT PERMIT FROM LAWFUL
39 GAMBLING, ST. JOSEPH CATHOLIC CHURCH Approved
40
41 C. CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION NO. 03-171
42 AUTHORIZING THE CLOSING OF 1996
43 CONSTRUCTION CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND Approved
44
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•47 A. Community Service Award Presentation — Mr. Edward Hemauer and Mr. Roger Jensen
48 (Posthumous)
49
50 Mayor Bergeson indicated they had two Community Service Awards to present. He stated the first
51 was Ed Hemauer, from Ivy Ridge Lane. He indicated for several years Mr. Hemauer has walked
52 several miles a day picking up trash. He is out there almost every day, and has been for the last seven
53 years. He stated Mr. Hemauer was nominated by the residents of Winsell Farms Townhouse
54 Community for the Good Citizenship Award.
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56 Mayor Bergeson indicated that the second award is for Mr. Roger Jensen, who recently passed away.
57 He stated two family members are here to accept his award. Mr. Jensen is being honored for his
58 many years of volunteer service to the City, including participation on several boards and
59 commissions.
60
61 B. Proclamation Declaring October "Crime Prevention Month" 2003, Police Chief Dave
62 Pecchia.
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64 Police Chief Dave Pecchia noted the agenda was long and he would not read the proclamation, but
65 thanked the citizens and City Council for making Lino Lakes one of the safest cities to live in.
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67 FINANCE DEPARTMENT REPORT, AL ROLEK
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•69 There was no report.
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71 ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT REPORT, DAN TESCH
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73 A. Consider Reappointment of Andy Cardinal to the Rice Creek Watershed District
74 (RCWD)
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76 Police Chief Pecchia summarized the Staff report, indicating Mr. Cardinal seeks reappointment to a
77 three-year term with the RCWD.
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79 Councilmember Carlson moved to approve the reappointment of Andy Cardinal to the Rice Creek
80 Watershed District. Councilmember Dahl seconded the motion.
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82 Motion carried unanimously.
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84 PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT REPORT, DAVE PECCHIA
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86 A. Consider Resolution No. 03-172, Accepting Donation from Vietnam Veterans of America
87 Chapter 470 — Anoka Co.
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89 Police Chief Pecchia presented the Staff report, noting the donation would go to defer the cost to
90 purchase a Taser for use by the Public Safety Department.
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•92 Councilmember O'Donnell moved to adopt Resolution No. 03-172 accepting a donation from
93 Vietnam Veterans of America Chapter 470 — Anoka County for a taser. Councilmember Reinert
94 seconded the motion.
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96 Motion carried unanimously.
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98 Resolution No. 03-172 can be found in the City Clerk's office.
99
100 B. Consider Contract with Centennial Schools for Youth Resource Officer
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102 Police Chief Pecchia explained that the Lino Lakes Police Department has enjoyed a relationship
103 with the Centennial School District by providing them with a Youth Resource Officer. They are
104 requesting that the City Council approve renewal of the agreement for the 2003 / 2004 school year.
105
106 Councilmember Reinert moved to approve the contract for a Youth Resource Officer for the
107 Centennial School District for the 2003 / 2004 school year.
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109 Motion carried unanimously.
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111 PUBLIC SERVICES DEPARTMENT REPORT, RICK DEGARDNER
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113 There was no report.
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115 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT REPORT, MIKE GROCHALA
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117 A. Miller's Crossroads, Bruggeman Development, Jeff Smyser
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119 City Planner Smyser summarized the Staff report, indicating there were two ordinances needed for
120 this rezoning.
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122 i. Second Reading, Ordinance No. 19-03 Rezoning from R-3 to LB, Miller's
123 Crossroads, Bruggeman Properties
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125 Councilmember O'Donnell moved to approve the SECOND READING of Ordinance No. 19-03
126 amending the Zoning Ordinance of the City of Lino Lakes by rezoning certain real estate from R-3,
127 Medium Density Residential to LB, Limited Business for the Miller's Crossroads Development.
128 Councilmember Carlson seconded the motion.
129
130 Councilmember Dahl asked the developer to verify the roof color for the commercial building. Greg
131 Schenk, 3564 Rolling Green Drive indicated the colors have been submitted to staff. He stated they
132 were using natural colors, such as brown or gray.
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134 Councilmember O'Donnell voted yea. Councilmember Carlson voted yea. Councilmember Dahl
135 voted yea. Councilmember Reinert voted nay. Mayor Bergeson voted yea. Motion carried.
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137 Ordinance No. 19-03 can be found in the City Clerk's office.
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• 138
139 Councilmember Carlson asked by how much this development exceeds the greenspace requirements.
140 City Planner Smyser stated the minimum is 50%, and this is 61 or 63%.
141
142 Councilmember Carlson asked how much the dwelling size exceeds the requirements. The applicant
143 indicated the smallest unit is 500 feet larger than the minimum requirement.
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145 Councilmember Carlson noted the garage is smaller, but only by 100 feet, which is offset by the size
146 of the units. In addition,the owners do not have outside maintenance as you would with a normal
147 two -car garage, thereby less yard maintenance equipment would be needed.
148
149 Councilmember Dahl asked what the acreage was that the greenspace exceeded, rather than the
150 percentage. The applicant indicated about 2 3/4 acres. Councilmember Dahl indicated on a 33 -acre
151 site that means more to her than the percentage.
152
153 ii. Second Reading, Ordinance 20-03 Rezoning from R-1 and R-3 to R-3 PUD,
154 Miller's Crossroads, Bruggeman Properties
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156 Councilmember Carlson moved to approve the SECOND READING of Ordinance No. 20-03
157 amending the Zoning Ordinance of the City of Lino Lakes by rezoning certain real estate from R-1,
158 Single Family Residential and R-3, Medium Density Residential to R-3 Urban residential Planned
159 Unit Development (PUD) for the Miller's Crossroads Development. Councilmember O'Donnell
016o seconded the motion.
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162 Councilmember Carlson voted yea. Councilmember O'Donnell voted yea. Councilmember Dahl
163 voted yea. Councilmember Reinert voted nay. Mayor Bergeson voted yea. Motion carried.
164
165 Ordinance No. 20-03 can be found in the City Clerk's office.
166
167 iii. Consider Resolution No. 03-173, Approving Development Contract (Site Grading
168 Only), Jim Studenski
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170 City Engineer Studenski summarized the staff report, indicating it follows the standard format and
171 requirements of the City. He indicated Attachment A is a summary of the dollar amounts provided
172 by the developer to determine the 150% and Attachment B shows the City fees for escrow to be paid
173 by the developer.
174
175 Councilmember Carlson noted a correction is needed to the report, as the number of units changed
176 from 152 to 151 due to the change from 13 townhouses to 12 twinhomes. City Engineer Studenski
177 indicated that was correct.
178
179 Councilmember Dahl moved to adopt Resolution No. 03-173 approving Development Contract for
180 Site Grading, Miller's Crossroads. Councilmember O'Donnell seconded the motion.
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•82 Motion carried unanimously.
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S184 Resolution No. 03-173 can be found in the City Clerk's office.
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186 B. 21st Avenue Street and Storm Sewer Improvements, Jim Studenski
187
188 i. Public Hearing, Consideration of Resolution No. 03-174, Adopting Proposed
189 Assessments
190
191 City Engineer Studenski summarized the Staff report, indicating the costs are proposed to be 100%
192 assessed to the property owners. He demonstrated the project area, noting the project would
193 reconstruct the street to Main Street. He stated the street will be widened and portions will receive
194 curb and gutter, with the northern portion remaining rural. He indicated it is anticipated that the
195 northern portion will be improved as part of the Anoka County project being studied for
196 consideration in the next few years. He noted the project has been downsized, with some ponding re -
197 routed to tie into existing ponds in Centerville. He indicated Centerville had a public hearing on the
198 project last week and approved it.
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200 City Engineer Studenski indicated that as of today Staff has heard more concern about how the
201 assessments would be handled and the scope of the project than about the assessment amounts
202 themselves. He reiterated they have downsized the project to address the concerns, and noted there
203 are time constraints on awarding the bid. It is Staff's recommendation that the Council open the
204 public hearing.
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41) 206 Mayor Bergeson indicated they did receive written objections to the assessment. City Attorney
207 Hawkins offered that for tonight's hearing the written objections have no impact. He explained that
208 Section 429 says that if a citizen wants to appeal after the hearing they must state those intentions
209 before the hearing, so the written objections received are only protecting those rights.
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211 Mayor Bergeson opened the public hearing.
212
213 Brian Bourassa, representing Gerald Rehbein asked for two clarifications. He stated in the original
214 development agreement it was Mr. Rehbein's understanding the street was being constructed to City
215 standards for the base, and the City would come back and put on the fmal layer. He indicated the
216 reason Mr. Rehbein thought that is due to the Developer's Agreement Item #6. He indicated it is Mr.
217 Rehbein's understanding he did construct the road to City standards, and is questioning if any of that
218 work can be salvaged.
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220 City Engineer Studenski indicated some could be salvaged. He stated when they put the final plans
221 together they will try to salvage what they can, however some parts are degraded, so they put in
222 contingencies in case they find something they did not anticipate. He indicated the City has the
223 ability to reduce the costs if work is not needed.
224
225 Mr. Bourassa asked what took so long before the project was considered after the feasibility report.
226 He noted originally this project was to take place in October of 2001. He asked if part of the
227 deterioration was because of the delays.
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•229 City Engineer Studenski indicated the delays have been two -fold. Because this street goes down the
230 boundary of Centerville and Lino Lakes they had to work through boundary issues. He indicated the
231 costs have been high, and they ended up going back to redesign the project, at which time they had to
232 re -submit to both cities and hold additional hearings. He stated they had to set up a Joint Powers
233 agreement as well. He noted it took them until last fall to get that far, then they had to get approvals
234 from the Rice Creek Watershed District. He indicated Staff does not feel the degradation was just
235 from the delay of the last few years. He stated the City has tried to take corrective measures with the
236 street but they have not held up so there are many corrective measures to take now.
237
238 Mr. Bourassa indicated they would like the opportunity to review the inspection documents to see
239 what was built up. Mayor Bergeson stated those would be public records so there is no problem with
240 making them available for review.
241
242 Mr. Bourassa stated the second clarification is on the assessment calculation. He indicated he
243 understands the assessment was calculated on Outlot A also, and questioned if they are being
244 assessed, why the roadway is not constructed to the end of the property. City Engineer Studenski
245 stated that again, it is one of the cost-saving measures. He indicated the road is benefitting Outlot A
246 but as a cost saving measure they pulled the road back. He stated they could review that again. Mr.
247 Bourassa stated their position would be that if they are being assessed for that lot they would like a
248 roadway.
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250 Tom Rudy, Mr. Rehbein's attorney stated he could speak to the issue of the sewer line that was put
•251 in. He indicated it was oversized at the request of the City. He indicated when Dairy Queen went in,
252 it was approximately a $670,000 job. The sewer line was put in under Main Street, and constructed
253 to City standards and under City inspection.
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255 Joan Tschida, Clearwater Creek Convenience Center, indicated she objects to the project, and feels
256 $81,000 for her parcel of land is horrendous. She does not see how it adds $81,000 of value to the
257 property, and she has reserved her right to litigate. She was promised a road in 1998, and met with
258 both City Councils at that time. She stated if the road had been done then it would not cost this much
259 now.
260
261 A representative of the owners of the Dairy Queen property spoke, and indicated the businesscame in
262 during 2000, at which time they had a blacktop road. He stated one time last spring there was a foot
263 and a half of water on the road, and his customers were going elsewhere. He believes the City
264 received good bids. He stated the road has been allowed to deteriorate and cannot go further. He
265 stated he believes that saying his business does not suffer is ludicrous. He stated the Council can say
266 it is a Centerville road, but Lino Lakes collects his property taxes and it is time to vote and get this
267 road done.
268
269 James Kozar stated he is across the street. He indicated his understanding is they will elevate the
270 road, and asked for further explanation. City Engineer Studenski stated regarding Main Street there
271 are no specific plans to elevate, but Anoka County is starting their process. He indicated Anoka
272 County is proposing the road be pushed north to mitigate impact, but the amount they will raise the
073 road is unknown.
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.275 Mr. Kozar stated as for the assessment, his started at $24,000, went up to $30,000, then dropped to
276 $14,000. He noted across the street it seems quite high. He indicated if they were to elevate the road,
277 his customers will not have access to his business or to the other businesses that were objecting. He
278 asked where they could get information on what Anoka County is doing. Community Development
279 Director Grochala noted that Anoka County will be doing their Main Street project, slated for 2005 or
280 2006. They are in the process of evaluating now, and regardless of what height the road becomes,
281 they will still have to provide access to the businesses along Main Street. He indicated the question
282 is only the grade and how the road will be laid out. He stated it will probably be a year or more
283 before they know what the bridge impact will be.
284
285 Mr. Kozar asked if they would get information ahead of time. Community Development Director
286 Grochala stated the owners will be notified and will go through a similar process as this one.
287
288 Mr. Kozar commented he watched Mr. Rehbein do the road and verified that he already cut down two
289 feet.
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291 There was no one else present who wished to speak. Councilmember Dahl moved to close the public
292 hearing. Councilmember Carlson seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
293
294 Mayor Bergeson indicated they have had several objections, and have two options. They can adopt
295 the assessment roll and let the various parties follow the process to pursue legal action or they can
296 delay action this evening.
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298 City Attorney Hawkins indicated the Mayor outlined the options clearly. He stated it is incumbent on
299 the City Council to determine if the assessments add enough value to the property. He indicated the
300 assessments must increase the value by at least as much as the assessment, and the City Council
301 heard statements that it does not. He stated Staff is not in a position to verify that tonight one way or
302 another, so the Council may want to send it back for Staff to review.
303
304 Community Development Director Grochala indicated the only timeline concern is on awarding the
305 contract. He felt there was time to review. He noted the issue with this project since 1996 has been
306 cost, and they have gone through many iterations. He stated it is apparent the property owners still
307 find the costs too high. Staff can go back and see what options they have and present the information
308 at a work session, but they have to award the contract by October 27, 2003 or deny the bids.
309
310 City Engineer Studenski indicated they will also have to go back to the contractor on the timeline for
311 the season, and see if it is too late and some of the project will have to be done in the spring. Mayor
312 Bergeson asked if this was scheduled to still be completed this fall. City Engineer Studenski
313 indicated that was correct.
314
315 Councilmember Reinert stated they have to get this project done; it has already been put off too long.
316 However, he indicated they have heard opposition. He stated Staff has said there may be some
317 options. He asked if they could move forward with this while examining other options. Community
318 Development Director Grochala stated he would want to determine options before they move
•19 forward. Mayor Bergeson added he would prefer to review it at a work session and bring it back for
320 action at the next meeting.
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322 Community Development Director Grochala stated in terms of ramifications, if the City Council were
323 to start the process tonight it would start the appeal process, but would not lock the City in for
324 awarding the contract. City Attorney Hawkins verified that was correct.
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326 Community Development Director Grochala asked if adopting the roll would limit the City Council's
327 right to make modifications to the plan. City Attorney Hawkins stated it would not; they could do an
328 amendment at a later date through a similar process as this.
329
330 Councilmember Reinert indicated this was what he was referencing. He asked what other options
331 there may be. Community Development Director Grochala stated there are not many, other than
332 looking for other funding sources. Mayor Bergeson asked if not building the road was an option.
333 Community Development Director Grochala stated it was a consideration.
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335 Councilmember Carlson asked if they could get the minutes from the Centerville meeting, since
336 Centerville was in the same situation and had approved it. Community Development Director
337 Grochala explained they did approve it, but would be contributing money to the project, which Lino
338 Lakes may have to consider.
339
340 Mayor Bergeson moved to table action on the 20 Avenue Street and Storm Sewer Improvements to
341 the next work session and October 27, 2003 City Council meeting. Councilmember Reinert seconded
342 the motion.
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344 Councilmember Dahl asked if they were not back where they started except the estimate is going to
345 be higher. She asked if that was a strong or remote possibility, given that the contractor wanted to
346 start this fall. City Engineer Studenski indicated it is a possibility. Staff will have to contact the
347 contractor and it opens up the bid for evaluation of how the delay affects the contract. He indicated
348 the contractor did want to start as soon as possible. Councilmember Dahl verified it is a possibility
349 the cost could go up. City Engineer Studenski stated it is a possibility, but the assessment could not
350 go higher than what has been proposed without going through the whole process again.
351
352 Motion carried unanimously.
353
354 C. 2004-2005 Street Improvement Project, Jim Studenski
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356 Mayor Bergeson noted Councilmember Reinert, as acting mayor, would be conducting the public
357 hearing on this item, as he (Mayor Bergeson) is an affected property owner.
358
359 City Engineer Studenski presented the Staff report and introduced Scott Brink of TKDA.
360
361 Mr. Brink explained the technical details if the project moves forward. He stated starting with the
362 Shenandoah area, it currently meets City standards for width, however the pavement condition is
363 showing signs of deterioration. He indicated the road was built in 1976, with quite a bit of patching,
364 sealcoating and crack repair over the years. He noted most roads, with proper maintenance, last 25
065 years, so they have reached the road's life expectancy. He added drainage also plays a factor in the
66 life of a road. He advised they would be taking out the street, putting in new curb and gutter and
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•367 improving the drainage. He indicated the area has sewer, but not water, and the project does not
368 include adding water. He stated if the City wanted to expand the project to do that, they could. He
369 explained the road layers used in reconstruction, indicating they will be replacing with new
370 pavement, curb, and gutter to the existing width.
371
372 Mr. Brink advised in the West Shadow Lake area, it is a little different. He indicated the road goes
373 many different ways and is many sizes. He stated some places have ditches, but there are no curb and
374 gutters, and the width varies, sometimes as narrow as 22 feet. He indicated they would be expanding
375 the width to 28 feet back-to-back, noting with the close proximity to the lake they will have to be
376 flexible in the placement of the road to meet the Watershed District's stringent guidelines. He
377 indicated the watershed will have to be well thought out to meet the requirements as well. He stated
378 that again, there are no utilities in this area and they would not be adding them unless the City
379 requested them. He advised Shenandoah is scheduled for 2004 and West Shadow Lake for 2005. He
380 indicated if approved, they would be considering plans and specification in late November, with bids
381 in December and construction starting in early 2004.
382
383 Councilmember Carlson asked if Staff has looked any further at considering sewer and water on West
384 Shadow Lake from the north or the south. Mr. Brink stated they have not looked at it in detail. He
385 indicated he is aware there are facilities on Birch Street, or they could come around the north side of
386 the lake. He indicated with sewer they would be looking at a lift station.
387
388 Councilmember Carlson asked how many homes the lift station could serve, wondering if there is a
•389 possibility of serving other homes besides the West Shadow Lake residents. She questioned if there
390 were any areas of homes coming in by the school. Community Development Director Grochala
391 stated most of the West Shadow area is developed. There may be some lots large enough to split, and
392 if they did bring sewer and water to that area, there is one 10 -acre parcel that could subdivide;
393 otherwise it is a lot of City and Park land.
394
395 Councilmember Carlson asked if a lift station would be feasible for this number of homes.
396 Community Development Director Grochala indicated they do not know yet. City Engineer
397 Studenski stated when they did the feasibility study they held a neighborhood meeting, and are now
398 holding the public hearing. He advised if they move forward with this there will be a lot more
399 meetings to get more input from the residents. He indicated for sewer and water considerations they
400 will again hold meetings so the neighbors can give their input. He noted his recommendation would
401 be to hold the hearings separately for Shenandoah and the West Shadow Lake area.
402
403 i. Public Hearing, Shenandoah Area Improvements
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405 Acting Mayor Reinert opened the public hearing at 7:55 p.m.
406
407 Tony Bitner stated he was curious about the cost per resident, and how long the assessment could be
408 financed. City Engineer Studenski advised the assessment amount is $3,150 per lot, distrubuted
409 evenly, which is about 11% of the overall cost of the project. He stated that amount could be paid off
410 or could be added to a person's property taxes for 15 years at 7% interest.
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•412 Acting Mayor Reinert asked what the annual figure was that would be added to a person's property
413 taxes. City Engineer Studenski indicated he does not have the exact figure, but the amount paid is
414 typically doubled when financed, so it would be approximately $400 per year for fifteen years.
415
416 Jeff Carlson, 407 Arrowhead Drive stated on the assessments, he thinks it is fine to combine the
417 projects for the referendum, but they are three separate projects. He does not think the cost should be
418 divided equally between all three areas. He believes there will be a lot more reconstruction for
419 Shadow Lake that should not affect his assessment. He stated Staff could probably tell them what the
420 cost is per foot, but he would think West Shadow Lake will be more.
421
422 City Engineer Studenski advised that regarding the assessment, they followed the previous practice of
423 assessing a set amount of $3,000, and used a cost index to move it forward to $3,150. He agreed the
424 costs do vary by project, but there is not one project being benefitted more than another. He stated
425 the costs are different per project, but the proposal for assessment is only 11% of the costs; the
426 majority of the costs are paid through the levy.
427
428 Councilmember Reinert verified that the method they have chosen for how people will be assessed
429 was how it was previously done, not how much the road costs. City Engineer Studenski indicated
430 that was correct. He stated the $3,150 assessment does not begin to cover the costs of the projects.
431
432 Jeff Carlson stated if the City always assesses $3,000 then it is fair. He thinks the referendum is the
433 way to go, and if the referendum does not pass, he does not think the road should go in. He stated
•434 now that some roads have been done that way, all the roads should be done that way.
435
436 Councilmember Reinert indicated he agrees West Shadow is in rough shape, which is why it is on the
437 project list.
438
439 Greg Burke, 6489 Totem Trail indicated he understands the West Shadow Lake area will cost twice
440 as much as Shenandoah. Mr. Brink indicated the Shenandoah project is $1,239,300 and the West
441 Shadow Lake project is $2,375,700. He noted the cost per foot, however, is about equal. He stated
442 they know in the West Shadow Lake area there is likely to be soil issues, and with Shenandoah they
443 have curb and gutter and a wider road. He indicated until they do all the studies they will not know
444 the final costs for sure. Mr. Burke indicated he believes the project should go ahead; the streets are
445 pretty bad.
446
447 Rick Christiansen indicated it is listed on the agenda as two separate items, and asked if it would be
448 handled as two separate items, with Shenandoah in 2004 and West Shadow Lake in 2005. City
449 Engineer Studenski indicated it would be handled separately, and with two separate referendums.
450 Mr. Christiansen stated he is for it. He believes the City should get it done.
451
452 There was no one else present who wished to speak. Councilmember O'Donnell moved to close the
453 public hearing at 8:10 p.m. Councilmember Dahl seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
454
455 Councilmember Reinert stated he is wondering about the comments on separate projects. He
056 clarified that if the project was going to be just Shenandoah or just West Shadow Lake, it would still
457 be $3,150 per lot. City Engineer Studenski indicated that was correct. Community Development
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•458 Director Grochala added that is the amount that would be assessed for any road project next year; it is
459 not project -specific.
460
461 ii. Public Hearing, West Shadow Lake Drive Area Improvements
462
463 Curt Kinghorn, West Shadow Lake Drive, stated he has a lot of confusion. He asked if it is the City's
464 position that no matter how big your lot, the assessment will always be $3,150. City Engineer
465 Studenski indicated that was correct. He stated at the public meetings they talked about different
466 ways road projects get assessed, either per lot or per foot. He indicated they advised during that
467 meeting the costs could be between $3,000 to $5,000, so they are staying consistent.
468
469 Mr. Kinghorn indicated West Shadow Lake is a lot more rural with rural -sized lots. He asked how
470 they can be charged the same. He stated the City web page says if the referendum passes the City
471 will raise taxes, so owners here will be paying more taxes and the assessment. Community
472 Development Director Grochala agreed. Mr. Kinghorn asked how his lot could be considered the
473 same as rural lots. Community Development Director Grochala stated the City looks at it per lot.
474 Mr. Kinghorn asked if it is, then, he believes it is an artificial assessment, not based on cost.
475 Community Development Director Grochala indicated it is not artificial, it is based on precedent.
476
477 Mr. Kinghorn went through the timeline that has taken place, and asked when resident input would
478 take place. He stated that in talking with the neighbors they would like to consider sidewalks. He
479 asked when they would be able to give that input. Community Development Director Grochala
•480 advised that once they get over the 60 -day comment period and then if the referendum passes they
481 can do the plan design. He indicated what they have done with other streets is during the design
482 phase they meet with residents and get ideas of what the neighborhood may want. Mr. Kinghorn
483 indicated the plan they vote on in November will not have those items included. Community
484 Development Director Grochala stated what taxpayers are voting on in November is to allow the City
485 to levy up to $3.6 million for road improvements. Mr. Kinghorn stated they would not know the
486 scope of the project they are giving the City $3.6 million to do. Community Development Director
487 Grochala agreed, indicating they would know the general scope.
488
489 Mr. Kinghorn stated the report says unknown circumstances could take significant time and money.
490 He asked how comfortable Staff is with the $3.6 million cost. City Engineer Studenski indicated
491 when they say the plans will be ready next spring, they are talking about the 2004 plans for
492 Shenandoah. He indicated they have until spring of 2005 for the West Shadow Lake issues. Mr.
493 Kinghorn asked again how confident Staff is in the $2.375 million estimated cost for West Shadow
494 Lake.
495
496 City Engineer Studenski advised that as with any feasibility study they use their professional
497 knowledge to determine costs, and add contingencies for unknowns. He indicated the feasibility
498 study is the engineer's estimate, and he feels very confident with that estimate barring any unforeseen
499 costs. Mr. Kinghorn indicated when they say `significant additional time and cost' there really is
500 none because those factors have already been figured in. City Engineer Studenski indicated they had.
501
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•503 Mr. Kinghorn stated if the bids exceed the estimate by 10% they cannot proceed. He asked if the
504 City would have to go out for another referendum. City Attorney Hawkins indicated if the bid
505 exceeds the estimate by 10% they cannot award the bid and if they cannot fund it, they would have to
506 go back for a referendum. Mr. Kinghorn stated he believes that what they are saying, in essence, is
507 that if the plan (which he feels he has had no input on) goes over the estimate, he cannot have trails.
508 City Attorney Hawkins indicated what they are saying is everyone gets a road in front of their house.
509 He stated if a neighborhood wants more, they have to pay 100% of those costs. Mr. Kinghorn asked
510 how the Elm Creek neighborhood got sidewalks. Community Development Director Grochala
511 explained the City has a park and trail plan that included the Elm Creek neighborhood.
512
513 Mr. Kinghorn indicated if they are going to put a street in they should consider not putting it in
514 without City sewer and water. He also asked what they would do about access during the
515 construction. City Engineer Studenski advised they are here discussing the street construction. He
516 stated they have been in contact with the golf course on access from the north end, and as they get
517 into the plan they will have more specifics. He indicated as for the utilities they know it will be
518 difficult with the long cul-de-sac, and Staff will have to look at depths and the logistics of bringing
519 utilities in.
520
521 Mr. Kinghorn stated regarding drainage, the report says land may have to be acquired to do that. He
522 asked if Staff knew whose property would be acquired. City Engineer Studenski stated they did not
523 know at this time. They will have to work through the drainage as part of the development plan, but
524 there are no specific lots that have been targeted. Mr. Kinghorn indicated he wants to make sure the
•525 homeowners are part of the planning process and have a voice in determining what happens on their
526 street.
527
528 Jason LaPlante, 6889 West Shadow Lake Drive stated he is not completely opposed to the project,
529 but from an engineering standpoint, he believes it is a million dollar solution to a thousand dollar
530 problem. He stated they will have a 28 -foot road when a one -lane dead-end has been fine. He
531 indicated he has lived there a long time and has never had a problem with the 23 -foot road. He asked
532 why they could not put a 24 -foot concrete overlay onto the road that is there.
533
534 City Engineer Studenski stated as far as the street width, the City standard for residential roads is 32
535 feet. They have already looked at making an adjustment for the character of the area so they have
536 reduced that to 28 feet. He stated they have emergency vehicle issues and parking issues. He is glad
537 to hear there are no problems with the narrow road, but Staff also gets calls asking why the City
538 allows a sub -standard road. He indicated as to putting some kind of covering over what is there, the
539 street is not to any standard now. He stated they will have varying design criteria of what is needed
540 and differences in sub -grade, all of which has not been fully determined.
541
542 Mr. LaPlante indicated he would still contend a concrete road would be acceptable. He stated the
543 road has not suffered any severe deterioration since he has lived there. He indicated the report says it
544 would be a 10 -year road because there is no curb and gutter, but he has been there 30 years with little
545 deterioration. He indicated concrete would work, and he would like to discuss it further with staff.
546 He stated he is also curious about drainage, as his property serves as a pond now, and he is curious
.47 where the added land will come from. He assumes it will have to be the golf course side.
548
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549 Mike Trehus, 675 Shadow Court indicated the City Charter says the resolution will state the scope
550 and number of benefitted property owners. He asked when that information will be available.
551 Community Development Director Grochala indicated there are 136 owners for both projects. Mr.
552 Trehus asked if the projects were being treated together so one neighborhood could kill the other.
553 Community Development Director Grochala stated he would recommend they be handled separately.
554 They would need to determine the exact number for each project, and 50% or more are needed to
555 petition against the project. Mr. Trehus stated the number was not part of the information sent to
556 homeowners. City Attorney Hawkins stated Staff could get the numbers for him. City Engineer
557 Studenski indicated there are 65 on Shenandoah and 71 on West Shadow Lake. Community
558 Development Director Grochala advised one property on West Shadow Lake has 17 owners, so the
559 number for that project would be 70 plus 17.
560
561 Mr. LaPlante stated there are 17 owners that co-own one lot. He asked if they would each be
562 assessed $3150. Community Development Director Grochala indicated they would be assessed 1/17th
563 of $3150.
564
565 Mr. Trehus stated he is scared by the project. He indicated in reading the feasibility study that was
566 circulated by his neighbor, he realizes how in the dark he is. He stated it says `needs additional
567 review'; `considerable extra time'; `assess during construction'; 'a more detailed geotechnical report
568 is recommended'; `easements may be needed for storm swater and drainage design'. He indicated
569 there are a lot of undetermined things in this feasibility study. Councilmember Reinert indicated to
570 take a project like this and answer every question residents would like to see is not prudent for the
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571 City. It takes a lot of money for plans detailed to that degree and to spend that money and have it fail
572 in the voting booth would not be prudent. Mr. Trehus stated he understands, but as of now he does
573 not know if he will have a pond across the street or what will happen. He does not know if easements
574 will be taken from his property.
575
576 Councilmember Reinert indicated what they are asking in November is for all the residents of Lino
577 Lakes to vote to improve a portion of the 99 miles of roadway. Mr. Trehus commented that they do
578 not know how it will affect them. He indicated that to go ahead with the street without sewer and
579 water would lock them out for another 20 years. He believes the City is going about this the wrong
580 way. He believes the process should take place as laid out in the City Charter. He stated if residents
581 vote and then the project does not go through, the residents will wonder what the City is doing. He
582 stated in their area, it makes sense to have a rural road, but the point is those questions would be
583 better worked out first. He indicated discussions with the residents would be a good idea.
584
585 Joey Skaswald indicated he owns 800 feet of low land and the lot he lives on. He stated the City
586 Council should table this and have the engineers come up with a preliminary plan. He stated the
587 question is on utilities. Sewer is only a few years away, and it seems silly to put the street in and
588 come back and put sewer in later. Community Development Director Grochala stated it would be
589 their intention not to do that. He indicated with sewer and water they would prefer to do it now, but
590 if the referendum passes it would be up to the residents to determine if sewer and water goes in.
591
592 Mr. Skaswald stated the road has not been sealed in 25 years. Community Development Director
093 Grochala indicated it was sealed in 2002. Mr. Skaswald disagreed, indicating it was patched only.
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.594 He thinks the City should authorize the engineers to come up with some detailed plans. He stated
595 there has only been two hearings on this road in the 25 years he has lived there.
596
597 Councilmember Reinert stated that concerning the conversation about sewer and water, without the
598 money for the road project there would be no sewer and water project. He indicated the thought is to
599 get the funding in place for the road before they move on to the next topic. Mr. Skaswald asked if
600 they would hold up the streets until sewer and water went in. Councilmember Reinert stated they
601 would start discussions about sewer and water after the referendum hearing. Community
602 Development Director Grochala indicated the thought would be that on November 5th when Staff
603 knows if the referendum passes, they would be approaching the City Council about starting the
604 feasibility study on sewer and water, providing the residents have not petitioned against the street
605 improvements. He indicated it is always the City's desire to put utilities in at the time of street
606 improvement, but they cannot unless the residents want them.
607
608 Tim Adams, 656 Shadow Court stated he feels like he is being forced to agree to the road to find out
609 the cost of utilities. He indicated he would like to know the total costs, because that will tell him how
610 to vote on the street. He stated they are being forced to vote on a new road just to see what sewer and
611 water will cost.
612
613 Councilmember Reinert reiterated the referendum is for a maximum dollar amount to be spent. He
614 stated if the road is not done, the money will not be spent. He indicated it would not be prudent to do
615 feasibility studies around the city just to get information. Community Development Director
•616 Grochala advised that sewer and water would follow a similar process. If the road is approved they
617 would not just do the utility study and say 'here is the assessment'. Mr. Adams indicated he
618 understood that, but reiterated it would have been nice to see how much the sewer and water would
619 be. It could be up to $40,000. He stated it would be nice to know, because it may be so cost
620 prohibitive that he says "no" to the road.
621
622 Councilmember O'Donnell asked if the option exists, that if the road passes, the City would do a
623 feasibility study on sewer and water with another petition period when the residents could petition
624 , out. Community Development Director Grochala stated they could petition out of the utilities if
625 sewer and water is too expensive for people to pay. He noted that the cost is not going to go down, it
626 will only go up, and sooner or later they will have to build the road. Mr. Adams reiterated it would
627 have been nice to know before now what that cost might be.
628
629 Councilmember Reinert stated Mr. Adams can vote against the project and get the entire
630 neighborhood to vote against the project, but there are another 18,000 residents voting on the street
631 referendum also. He indicated when it came to water, it will be entirely up to the neighborhood to
632 decide.
633
634 Councilmember Carlson stated as a point of order, they just did the Elm Street project where sewer
635 and water was part of the feasibility study. Community Development Director Grochala explained
636 the difference with Elm Street was that they had Minnesota State Aid to do the street, so since there
637 was not a need for a referendum, and they kmew they had the money for the road, they could evaluate
•38 sewer and water. Councilmember O'Donnell asked to confirm that any assessment cannot exceed the
639 improved value. City Attorney Hawkins confirmed this, stating that the assessment must be equal to
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640 or less than the market value increase realized to the property. Councilmember O'Donnell indicated
641 that he believes with this large project it would come back to the City Council to decide if they can
642 find a way to help fund this because they will not be able to assess for the full amount of the costs.
643
644 Joe Meyer stated he is in support of what the City is trying to do. He indicated the road is very bad.
645 He has been there 17 years and it is very bad. He agrees with getting it on the referendum and having
646 the people of Lino Lakes help pay the cost, then looking at sewer and water.
647
648 Jason LaPlante asked why 16,000 other Lino Lakes residents care about this neighborhood, and why
649 they would want to help pay for the road. He indicated when they talk about the cost benefit of sewer
650 and water, for him, being high on the golf course, it would have little benefit. Community
651 Development Director Grochala indicated each of the owners would be assessed, but they would not
652 be forced to hookup. He stated it is difficult because the situation is different on either side of the
653 street. The lots on the lake side are smaller and have fewer septic system options. He stated as to
654 why 16,000 residents would want to help pay for the road, it is because their turn will come.
655
656 Sherry Stern indicated she seconds what Mr. Meyer said. She has been there 17 years, and has seen
657 the road deteriorate. She stated you cannot go around a car without brushing trees on the side. She
658 indicated whether or not they have utilities she thinks $3,150 for a road is a great deal and they would
659 be foolish to turn it down.
660
661 Councilmember O'Donnell moved to close the public hearing at 9:09 p.m. Councilmember Dahl
.662 seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
663
664 Councilmember O'Donnell asked if they were following the City Charter process for street
665 improvements. City Attorney Hawkins indicated in his opinion they were.
666
667 Councilmember O'Donnell stated it seems like a confusing process. He asked how they could get this
668 on the agenda of the Charter Commission because if they are following the City Charter's process it
669 is confusing. Community Development Director Grochala stated they are following two processes.
670 He indicated the Section 429 process is the City Charter process, which says residents have 60 days
671 to petition, and if they do, the City cannot assess against them and would have to find other funds.
672 He stated the other part says if a City is using tax dollars they have to have it on the ballot in 120
673 days, so they are doing both processes jointly. He indicated it is not really different than 1998,
674 although the question on the ballot is more detailed than it was in 1998. Councilmember O'Donnell
675 commented they should try to improve the process.
676
677 Councilmember Carlson stated timing is part of the issue here. She indicated in 1997, they had the
678 feasibility study in June and July and did discuss details, down to street lights. She stated the lesson
679 they need to learn is to get going earlier in the year so they can work out some of the details before
680 they vote to put it on the ballot. She believes this is a good project and the price to the residents is
681 reasonable and they should move ahead.
682
683 Councilmember Dahl stated she has been sitting here listening for three hours, and since she is on the
084 Charter Commission she guarantees it will be on the next agenda. She indicated the problem is that
685 in some people's minds, the process was not followed the same as it was on Black Duck Drive. She
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•686 indicated the price is the same, which is good news, but the process was not followed. She stated
687 because it was not followed exactly they need to learn from this. She noted Councilmember Carlson
688 had mentioned a few meetings ago that the public hearing was not done.
689
690 Councilmember Dahl stated that some residents have indicated to her that because of the unknown
691 sewer and water, it may affect their vote. She agrees that if it was her road, she would want to know
692 details of how it would affect her property before she voted, because when she spends her money she
693 makes sure the end justifies the means. She stated she knows the road needs to be done, but the
694 reason she likes the Charter process is because it gives people the right to vote. She indicated it has
695 come to vote before and passed overwhelmingly, with two-thirds of the voters in favor. She stated
696 either way it does not mean the City Charter is broken, it just means they went to the people and this
697 is what they chose. She thinks they need to bring it up at the Charter Commission meeting to make it
698 clearer for the City Council or future City Council to follow. She encourages all residents to vote, no
699 matter which way they intend to vote.
700
701 Acting Mayor Reinert called a short recess at 9:17 p.m.
702
703 Mayor Bergeson reconvened the meeting at 9:24 p.m.
704
705 D. Consideration of Resolution No. 03-175, Approving Development Contract (Site
706 Grading Only), Ravens Hollow, Jim Studenski
707
.708 City Engineer Studenski summarized the Staff report, indicating Staff recommends approval of the
709 resolution.
710
711 Councilmember O'Donnell moved to adopt Resolution No. 03-175 approving the development
712 agreement for grading, Ravens Hollow. Councilmember Dahl seconded the motion.
713
714 Motion carried unanimously.
715
716 Resolution No. 03-175 can be found in the City Clerk's office.
717
718 E. Consideration of Resolution No. 03-177, Approving Conditional Use Permit, Automobile
719 and Truck Repair Facility, Dick Thompson
720
721 Community Development Director Grochala summarized the Staff report, reviewing the site plan.
722 He explained the design elements Staff is requesting, noting the colors would be earthtone. He
723 reviewed the lighting plan, noting three fixtures exceeded the candlefoot requirements and a new plan
724 will be submitted. He indicated there is perimeter landscaping going in. He stated Staff met with the
725 developers on September 23rd to modify the plans, which resulted in revisions to trees. He indicated
726 Staff is requesting a revised site plan and details on what those trees will be. He stated utilities are
727 provided to the site. He noted the Environmental Board reviewed the plans on July 30 and
728 recommended approval, and their comments have been incorporated into the plans. He stated
729 Planning and Zoning recommended approval on August 13, and their comments have been
•30 incorporated into Staff comments. He noted part of their comments were concerning color, as there
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•731 was a lot of yellow that seemed out of place. He indicated Staff recommends approval with the
732 conditions outlined in the resolution.
733
734 Jim Faulkner, architect and contractor, thanked Staff for the review. He indicated they will meet all
735 Staff's requirements, and they have copies of the civil engineering, drainage, landscape and floor
736 plans available. He indicated that they had always intended to use full brick veneer, and it was never
737 intended the brick would be stick -on. He stated the cornice would continue on the entire building,
738 and noted that after the Planning and Zoning meeting they were able to talk with Precision Tune and
739 eliminate the Precision Tune band. He thinks they have come up with a pleasant facade, with general
740 earth tones and blue canopies over the windows. He indicated the trash enclosure will be six feet tall
741 and brick veneer. He stated they have had discussions with Precision Tune about cars parked outside,
742 and they have a history with this Precision Tune owner. He indicated the owner also operates a
743 Precision Tune in Brooklyn Park and has had no problems with abandoned cars.
744
745 Mr. Faulkner reviewed that the planters will be landscaped with prairie grass and perennials. He
746 indicated they would like some flexibility with landscaping, and will submit their plans to staff.
747
748 Mayor Bergeson asked if they have any tenants yet besides Precision Tune, and asked what types of
749 businesses the space was being geared towards. David McCullom stated they have a leasing agent
750 pursuing other tenants, such as a book store, jewelry store and pizza place.
751
752 Councilmember Carlson stated the face veneer brick should be replaced with full brick. Mr. Faulkner
•753 stated it will be full, real brick, not a synthetic material.
754
755 Councilmember Reinert moved to adopt Resolution No. 03-177 approving a conditional use permit
756 for an Automobile and Truck Repair Facility, Apollo Center. Councilmember O'Donnell seconded
757 the motion.
758
759 Motion carried unanimously.
760
761 Resolution No. 03-177 can be found in the City Clerk's office.
762
763 i. Consideration of Resolution No. 03-178, Approving Site Performance Agreement,
764 Michael Grochala
765
766 Community Development Director Grochala summarized the Staff report, indicating Staff
767 recommends approval.
768
769 Councilmember O'Donnell moved to adopt Resolution No. 03-178 approving Apollo Center Site
770 Improvement Performance Agreement. Councilmember Dahl seconded the motion.
771
772 Motion carried unanimously.
773
774 Resolution No. 03-178 can be found in the City Clerk's office.
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S776 F. Consideration of Resolution No. 03-179, Approving Final Plat, Marshan Lake Industrial
777 Park, Michael Grochala
778
779 Community Development Director Grochala presented the Staff report, noting that included as a
780 condition is that they have final review and approval of title information by the City Attorney.
781
782 Councilmember Carlson commented that she believes they all received a letter about the road.
783 Community Development Director Grochala stated that Ms. Weinhoff owns the tax service, which is
784 the property east of the proposed industrial park. He indicated that when going through the public
785 hearing, Ms. Weinhoff expressed concern with the turn lane. He advised it is needed due to the
786 amount of traffic. He further advised that an issue brought up at Planning and Zoning is that Ms.
787 Weinhoff's property has two existing driveways, and the turn lane, as proposed, started to conflict
788 with one of the driveways. He indicated Staff had discussions with Anoka County and they have no
789 concerns with moving the turn lane south of Ms. Weinhoff's driveway. He noted the turn lane is
790 being constructed in front of her property but in the County right-of-way, and is the only option to
791 move traffic. He noted the location of this street was in the center of the road section, and it is the
792 County's requirement to maximize spacing to at least a quarter of a mile. He noted it does go in front
793 of the tax service parcel, but is not a unique situation, as they often see right turn lanes start in front
794 of someone's property, and again, it is in the County right-of-way.
795
796 Community Development Director Grochala noted another concern was with Mr. Buckle's property
797to the north. When the surveyor stakes went up, they encroached on where he thought his property
.798 line ended. They are working with the developer to save the oak trees along the property line that
799 Mr. Buckle had believed were on his property, but are not.
800
801 Councilmember O'Donnell moved to adopt Resolution No. 03-179, approving the Final Plat for
802 Marshan Lake Industrial Park. Councilmember Reinert seconded the motion.
803
804 Motion carried unanimously.
805
806 Resolution No. 03-179 can be found in the City Clerk's office.
807
808 G. Consideration of SECOND READING of Ordinance No. 21-03, Amending the Lino
809 Lakes Zoning Ordinance Relating to Personal Services in the GB District, Jeff Smyser
810
811 City Planner Smyser reviewed the Staff report, noting with approval of the second reading the
812 ordinance will be published on October 21, 2003 and go into effect 30 days later.
813
814 Councilmember Reinert moved to approve the SECOND READING of Ordinance No. 21-03
815 amending the Lino Lakes Zoning Ordinance relating to personal services in the GB District.
816 Councilmember Carlson seconded the motion.
817
818 Councilmember Reinert voted yea. Councilmember Carlson voted yea. Councilmember Dahl voted
819 yea. Councilmember O'Donnell voted yea. Mayor Bergeson voted yea.
020
821 Ordinance No. 21-03 can be found in the City Clerk's office.
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• 822
823 H. Consideration of Resolution No. 03-176, Accepting Bids and Awarding Contract,
824 Century Trail Lift Station, Jim Studenski
825
826 City Engineer Studenski presented the Staff report, indicating Staff recommends approval of the
827 resolution.
828
829 Councilmember Carlson moved to adopt Resolution No. 03-176 accepting bids and awarding a
830 construction contract for Century Trail Lift Station project. Councilmember Dahl seconded the
831 motion.
832
833 Motion carried unanimously.
834
835 Resolution No. 03-176 can be found in the City Clerk's office.
836
837 I. Consideration of Resolution No. 03-181, Authorizing Engineering and Architectural
838 Services for Woods Edge (the Village) Development, Michael Grochala
839
840 Community Development Director Grochala summarized the Staff report, indicating Hartford Group
841 has agreed to pay 80% of the cost based on a pro -rated portion of land that they control. He indicated
842 the City's portion of the costs, $19,923, will be paid through the remaining Livable Communities
843 money available from the 1997 grant and 2003 economic development funds budgeted for this
41) 844 project.
845
846 Councilmember Reinert asked how many units are in this development. Community Development
847 Director Grochala indicated there were 450, which is about 13 units per acre. He stated the allowable
848 number of units per acre in this area of the Village is 12 to 24.
849
850 Councilmember Reinert asked when they would see a plan. Community Development Director
851 Grochala stated hopefully in December. They are anticipating starting the review process in
852 November and will bring it to a work session.
853
854 Councilmember Reinert asked why they would want to spend $20,000 before they see something
855 from the developer. Community Development Director Grochala stated Staff is seeing a lot. The
856 $20,000 is being used for the regulating plan; taking the master plan and tying it into the survey to
857 define public boundaries, etc. He stated whether or not the Hartford project goes through this will be
858 valuable information, and they should have done it a year and a half ago.
859
860 Councilmember Reinert stated that convinces him, since they will have to do something there even if
861 it is not the Hartford project. He asked what the shelf life of the information would be. Community
862 Development Director Grochala indicated it would be indefinitely valuable.
863
864 Councilmember Carlson stated when they did the EAW for Marsh End Industrial Park they had a
865 letter from Mn/Dot asking for a study of the area. She asked if this would fulfill that request.
1166 Community Development Director Grochala stated it was tying it together. The study paid for by the
867 Industrial Park and Hartford should be done in a few weeks, and they are trying to tie everything
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•868 together. Councilmember Carlson asked if the results will satisfy Mn/Dot. Community Development
869 Director Grochala stated it would.
870
871 Mayor Bergeson asked if there was further information on the YMCA, as at the work session Staff
872 had ideas for an improved location for the YMCA. Community Development Director Grochala
873 stated they have had some preliminary discussions and will meet with the YMCA this week.
874
875 Councilmember O'Donnell moved to adopt Resolution No. 03-181 authorizing engineering and
876 architectural services for Woods Edge (Village) Development. Councilmember Reinert seconded the
877 motion.
878
879 Motion carried unanimously.
880
881 Resolution No. 03-181 can be found in the City Clerk's office.
882
883 UNFINISHED BUSINESS
884
885 A. Approval of the August 11, 2003 City Council Minutes
886 B. Approval of the September 8, 2003 City Council Minutes
887
888 Councilmember Dahl stated for the August 11, 2003 minutes, she watched the tape and felt they
889 could go into more detail. She indicated on lines 548 and 549 it says `Councilmember Dahl noted the
•890 City Administrator was also of the impression they had accepted the offer'; she would like it to stop
891 there.
892
893 Councilmember Carlson moved to approve the August 11, 2003 and September 8, 2003 City Council
894 minutes. Councilmember Reinert seconded the motion.
895
896 Motion carried unanimously.
897
898 NEW BUSINESS
899
900 A. Approval of the September 17, 2003 Council Work Session Minutes
901 B. Approval of the September 18, 2003 Council Work Session Minutes
902 C. Approval of the September 22, 2003 City Council Minutes
903
904 Councilmember Carlson moved to approve the minutes shown above. Councilmember Dahl
905 seconded the motion.
906
907 Motion carried unanimously.
908
909 COMMUNITY CALENDAR October 14, 2003 THROUGH October 27, 2003:
910
911 A) Wednesday, October 15, 2003, 5:30 p.m., Special Council Work Session
912 B) Tuesday, October 21,2003,Afternoon,CityAdministrator Candidate Interviews
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4111) 913 C) Wednesday, October 22, 2003, 5:30 pm., Council Work Session
914 D) Monday, October 27, 2003, 6:30 p.m., City Council Meeting
915 Mayor Bergeson indicated the proposed date for City Administrator interviews is Wednesday,
916 October 29, 2003. He asked that the Councilmembers check their calendars and communicate with
917 Director of Administration Tesch.
918
919 ADJOURN
920
921 There being no further business, Councilmember Reinert moved to adjourn at 10:10 p.m.
922 Councilmember O'Donnell seconded the motion.
923
924 Motion carried unanimously.
925
926 These minutes were considered and approved at the regular Council Meeting, November 10, 2003.
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