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LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MINUTES June 04, 2013 Page 4 of 7 Minimum control measures: #1/#2 - public education , outreach , involvement & participation; #3- illicit discharge detection and elimination; construction site storm water controls; #5 – post-construction storm water management for development and redevelopment; #6 – pollution prevention/good housekeeping for municipal operations. City Engineer Griffin gave update of the MS4 general permit status. It has been passed by MPCA, so City has 150 days to rewrite the 5 year SWPPP. It is due December 29, 1013. New SWPPP will have additional conditions. Mr. Griffin explained the new mandates from the state. Council Member Bloyer asked about which taxes pay for this program. Mr. Griffin said that it is state mandated without any funding. The league has been fighting to lessen the burden on cities. Water capturing was also discussed. Dave Moore, 8680 Stillwater Blvd., asked about situation of runoff from adjoining communities and its impact, such as Oakdale. Mr. Moore complained about Target and McDonalds contribution to the local runoff. Mr. Griffin stated that the volume should be the same and that Oakdale and Valley Branch Watershed would have reviewed the impact. Mr. Moore’s issue is the quality of the water not the volume. Mayor Pearson asked what the cost would be of not doing the permit. Mr. Griffin said the cost would be whatever fight the City would end up in and the possible inability to develop. He said he would look into Mr. Moore’s concerns. MOTION: Mayor Pearson moved TO ACCEPT THE MUNICIPAL SEPARATE STORM SEWER SYSTEM (MS4) ANNUAL REPORT FOR 2012, AND AUTHORIZE STAFF TO SUBMIT THIS REPORT TO THE MPCA BY JUNE 30, 2013. Council Member Nelson seconded the motion. MOTION PASSED 4-0. ITEM 11: ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT – SIGN ORDINANCE UPDATE; ORDINANCE 08-082, RESOLUTION 2013-47 Planning Director Klatt explained the proposed amendment. New code language consists of mostly restructuring the subject matter. Major clean up of current code. Planning Commission has approved the code. Easier to administer by staff. New ordinance is actually more permissive. It is more practical and not arbitrary. Model was based on Middleton, WI sign code. Mr. Klatt noted Mr. Bergmann’s letter regarding his concerns. Two-sided signs only apply if more than a foot (12 inches) thick. Council Member Bloyer asked about political signs and real estate advertising. First amendment issues and whether this proposal has been vetted for constitutionality were discussed. Council Member Smith asked if there should be various sign districts. Her belief is that I94 should be different than the Village. The differing areas and flexibility was discussed. Adding a Village district language could be added later. The planning commission suggested that being added. Mr. Bloyer asked about requirement of written consent of the owner for sign permits. It has been the typical practice of the city.