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VOTE: 1:7 Failed. M/S/P, Ptacek/Roth to limit No. 4 in the standards that attendance at events should be no more than 20 persons per acre, limited to a ten acre minimum, with a maximum of 500 persons, including event staff. VOTE: 8:0. Commissioner Fliflet a wedding of 500 will need microphones M/S/P, Roth/Fliflet to limit sound to comply with the City Noise Ordinance. The Planner said no sound should be discernible beyond the property line. He read from the noise ordinance. Commissioner Van Zandt said if you can't measure it and don't know the decibel level but nobody is complaining, what difference does it make? VOTE: 7:1 Ptacek-The intention was for no amplified sound. M/S/P, Fliflet/Deziel to remove Number 6 because there is no reason to limit the hours. 7:1 Nay —Schneider -Can picture this being a hassle. M/S/P, Ptacek/Fliflet to move forward with the text amendment subject to Conditions 1-9, eliminating number six and to include the other amendments already made. VOTE: 8:0. Public Hearing: Consider Code Amendment — Drive -up Service Window Adjacent to a Restaurant in the GB Zoning District The Planner provided three separate text amendments. The first could make it a conditional use permit, second would be a permitted use, and third would be an accessory use which is not much different from a permitted use. THE CHAIRMAN OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:25 P.M. Ed Gorman Mr. Gorman said he would like to be clear of the differences between restaurants and cafes. Some of those differences are: utensils and plates that are washed, table service versus counter service, menus versus menu board, in fast food there are no tips, in restaurants you tip the server. His requested outdoor menu board would be a marketing tool with less than 10% of his food items on the board. He solicited support from 100's of customers, many of them local, and from fellow businesses on Main Street on a petition. He presented the petition where the signers supported the drive -up service window with intercom and menu board. There is a health and safety issue with the window ordering option. Mr. Gorman said that Minnesota food code says that all openings to the outside be closed as much as possible to keep out insects, etc. Flies are an issue in summer. Without the intercom system and menu board, he cannot envision doing this completely and safely for his customers. Lake Elmo Bank has five speakers. The City could add the provisions, for a limited menu board limited to ice creams and coffees. Commissioner Deziel asked when does the sit down become secondary to the drive -up window? If you sell the restaurant, that future owner may have a different idea. Mr. Gorman said a CUP could make the difference. This window does not make it fast food. He Lake Elmo Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of March 13, 2006