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LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MEETINC, OCTOBER 219 1980 _10_ Larry Bohrer noted, like a 100/ chance. That concrete pipe cannot be put in that fast. That is wly 1981 is listed in the report. The only way to get the water out of Sunfish Lake now is to pump it someplace. Mary Leslie « Before previous City Council I have stated that it is visably, apparent l when it rains that the majority of the water comes from Cimarron (that side of the road). You can see the different levels in Sunfish Lake. You can see it higher on Cimarron's side and lower on the side by the house, and see it as it transfers under the driveway to the north side. I would say that the run—off volume is greater from Cimarron than the rest of the watershed. It would appear, from the big storms, that there are different levels in the lake. Also, can the City Council guarantee that the main — stem plan will be adopted or they have some other plan to relieve the con— ditions for the people in West Lakeland and those that are concerned with Tartan Park? Armstrong said this is iap to the Watershed District. Now, we are trying •to explore possibilitj!es to solve the problem. Once we solve the problem, we have to follow that water downstream and see that there is a minimum problem there. kbone is going to come out 100%, A balancing of the interests is necessary, If it means 500 homes have to be closed, this is a very big interest that may outweigh potential flooding of a few ,yards downstream, where those people will not be forced out of their homes. The effect downstream will have to be determined. Mary Leslie asked is the Cimarron plant was a public or private concern. If private is it to be maintained by the private corporation? Armstrong replied that we are not dealing with Cimarron so much as we are dealing with 'the lake level. A lake level, the rise of which has to be taken eaxe of, is not Cimarron's problem alone. The point is not who is going to pay for this. One, there is a problem. We can go back ten years and say this should have been done differently. We have to live with what people have ( done in the past. We have to decide what is best for the future and where we are not. Cranted, maybe 10 ,years ago something could have been done to solve this. None of us expected the water level to rise; but, we have to ask what steps can. be taken to solve the problem. If this means the water has to rise up in Horseshoe for awhile or that more has to go down— stream, then we have to discuss that with the Watershed and see what can be done along those lines. If there is another viable alternative which is going to affect on one downstream, this is the best. Right now this does not appear feasible. Regardless, whether Cimarron is profit makeing or not, when it comes to assessing out the cost, the City is going to have to look at it and decide who bonefitted and who will pay. The time factor right now is important, too. Mary Leslie said, I am not concerned about the cost of pumping Cimarron into Horseshoe Lake. I am concerned about putting suspect water into a City lake. We have to consider all the agencies involved with such action. Jim Palmquist, 3M attorney, We have a water problem. Two weeks ago you realized the difficulty of putting this water. into Horseshoe and downstream. Valley Branch has confirmed the problems of going that route; so the other viable alternative is 'looking to see if there is someplace on the Cimarron property to store the water. Larry Boh.ere addressed this on the surface. I think that before Valley Branch or the City consider any other alternative that the real look ought to be what has to be constructed and what the cost would be to put it on Cimarron's property. This is the first thing. Until that is fully evaluated all the rest sould not be considered. It is only if it is impossible to pump it and store it on their land that we start : looking at other alternatives.