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CITY COUNCIL MEETING, MARCH 2, 1982 -7- 9. MSA PROJECT - CONTINUED: --Herb Crocker Keats Avenue - Commented on the need and cost per vehicle use on the road. Traffic count indicates 200 cars per day, or 73,000 cars per year - with the $304,000 construction cost this would mean each car is paying the equivalent of 20fi toll per car per trip. On a gravel road this amount would be 1.3@, including maintenance costs. This project is an extravagance we cannot afford. Agrees with Mr. Slawson that this is the kind of thing we should not be talking about. Is going to lose his garden, and there is little area elsewhere on the property to relocate it. Forcing development in an agriculture area. Trying to keep green acres. --Ed Stevens. - everyone assumes no matter what the location of the road it has to be straight. Over the years have determined it is better to put curves in highway, developments have curved roads. Engineer's drawing for ah..alternative alignment of 45th Street had a substantial curve. If the road has to be built - agrees there is no need to upgrade Keats -, why not do at the minimum cost level and put a few gentle bends in it. The road could then slightly avoid the areas where there is a steep drop thdt requires alot of fill and avoid areas with high rises that require extensive excavation. Costs could be reduced and objections might be reduced. Times have changed and should considers" doing things with "the minimum amount of expenditure and minimum amount of expenditure of energy. --Bohrer - this design is based on minimum cost. No problem putting curves in as long as it is done properly and based on sound engineering principles. To avoid one area have to gradually move the road over and this may encroach on another area that presently the road is not meandered upon. Brought up interesting point that gasoline and fuel is often an overlooked cost in construction. This road has excess excavation on it - there will be a surplus of material when completed. This can either be disposed of on site and thereby reduce the costs or can be completely hauled off the site, this is considerably larger expense. All these factors were taken into account - firmly believe this design, with the guidelines we must work under, is the most cost effective design. In this case,the general statement is not made that a straight road is cheaper than a curved road. In this case, a straight road is the most cost effective. --Ed Stevens - Personally-doubts.this fact. --Mrs. Crocker - concerned about their garden. Assuming the road goes through, how far will it come into the garden and at what degree. --Bohrer - the stakes that were placed were based upon the road following the section line. This is the worst case and approximate limit of the slope. --Mrs. Crocker - if the road is built here, it will be at such an angle that only a very small area of the garden can be used. This will deprive them of a garden they have had for many years. There is no other place in the.yard to put the garden. Compensation would not cover the loss.'- --Eder - suggested using surplus material to raise the garden and / change the slope, --Bohrer - this could be done. Would be very happy to have someone take additional fill. This design was based, per Council instruction, on keeping the road as narrow as possible. Would be agreeable to do something in an individual case.