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CITY COUNCIL MEETING, MARCH 2, 1982 m: 8Y CIMARRON CUP r CONTINUED; Mottaz - recommended contacting Ramsey County to find out how they handled a similar problem on Goodrich Golf Course. Motion carried 5-0. 9. MSA PROJECT: A. Assessments - The Council reviewed the Engineer's memo of February 25, 1982, "MSA Assessment Alternatives", outlining cost comparisons for separate projects, combined projects and the effect of Ag Preserves on the project(s). --Mottaz - his position - with interest rates what they are,the City should build what it has money for. If have money in the MSA fund to do Keats now, then, do Keats, acid wait until the. necessary funds are built up to do 45th,, Julep and '47th.' --Morgan - combined project, with interest, is out as is the combined project without interest, as the City cannot pay for it. Favors the Engineer's -recommendation to do Keats as a single'project. --Novak - Agrees �o� do only what there is money available for. --Fraser - sees Keats alone as the best choice. Addressed the question of doing Keats alone vs doing nothing - the question of need, as raised by residents along Keats. Number of cars low and expected to remain so for some time. Previous cost figures raised the question of whether the need matched the dollar ex- penditures..,with new cost figures for a single project, at a driveway cost of approximately $783, the need is in better balance with the dollar need. This weighed against the need for having ,appropriate roads makes sense. Concurs with the other Councillors position. --Eder - agrees if going to do anything it should be done on the individual project basis. Disputes the design standards and the strict adherence the City must follow in order to get MSA money. Audience Comments: --Steve Raleigh 5055 Keats - does the Council understand where the road will be placed - do you intend to accept the Engineer's drawings, as presented, or have him redraw them to place the center of the new road on the center of the old road. --Eder- raised a similar question - sufficent research was done for the Engineer to say,no,that costs would not be less, possibly greater. Also,several property descptions would allow the City to place the road on the section line. -S. Raleigh- questioned these conclusions. Areas west of Keats in his area, would be impacted far less than the east side of the road if the road was kept on the center line. Terrain is less steep on the west side. --Engineer Bohrer - drew the road in both location, estimated the amount of earth that would need to be moved and: amount of easements that would have to be purchased. Cost is directly related to the amount of excavation that has to be done. City is bound by maximum slopes, ditch widths and back slopes out of the ditches which would amount to more excavation, more cost, if the road were placed on the center line of the existing road. Second factor is impact on property - approx.imately the same amount of property on each side of the road has to be obtained in the form of easements or r-o-w if the road is placed on the section - this is looking at the road as a whole.