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JOINT WORKSHOP BETWEEN THE CITY OF LAKE ELMO AND OAKDALE DECEMBER 17, 1991 5:30 p.m. LAKE ELMO CITY HALL PRESENT FROM LAKE ELMO: Mayor Johnson, Councilman Dick Johnson, Mottaz, Williams, Administrator Kueffner. Absent: Hunt PRESENT FROM OAKDALE: Mayor Bearth and City Council PRESENT FROM WASHINGTON COUNTY: Dick Herold, Don Wisnewski, DISCUSSION ON IMPROVEMENTS ON COUNTY ROAD 10: Don Wisnewski: Based on input from Lake Elmo, we have moved the alignment about 221to 25' north so that would skirt the wetland area. The Lake Elmo Planning Commission suggested a bridge. We have a cost estimate of 3 million dollars for the bridge itself. We are estimating this entire project to be about a million dollars. We do not feel this is a feasible alternative. Dick Herold: We moved the alignment to the north so we don't lose any wetland on the southside of the road. We have contacted the county landscape architect regarding kinds of trees and shrubs and would come before the council with a planting schedule for your approval. There would be bigger trees on the north side with shrubs on the southside. We do not have anything firmed up on replacement of wetlands. Permanent loss of acreage is about 3.3 acres. With the no net loss passed by the legislature, this would mean 6.6 acres of replacement wetlands and would be worked out with the DNR and Core of Engineers. Todd Williams: Are you planning on transporting water by a pipe under the road? Herold: Definitely, but decision hasn't been made if the pipe would be 30" or 36". We will do a study and look at the storage and do an engineering design when we size the pipe. Wisnewski: We are preparing an EAW and the County would be the RGU. We finished preliminary design from discussions of the two councils. Oakdale: Let's lower the speed limit and make a decent looking parkway and don't see any reasons why we can't put trees in the median. As far as putting trees and shrubs along this is a waste of money. There were individuals here that were not in favor of a 4-lane, but compromised, favor of a four lane if we could have a parkway type design. Let's be different and use our imagination. Dick Johnson: I don't see any imagination here at all from the standpoint of a parkway, but just plant a few trees to passify the councils.