The URL can be used to link to this page

Home My WebLink AboutItem 13 - Municipal Consent for Phase II Downtown ProjectLake Elmo Avenue (CSAH 17) Corridor Management and Safety Improvement Project Project Location & Phasing Map Lake Elmo Ave N (Co Rd 17)30th St NLaverne Ave NHwy 5 Roadway Reconstruction & Utility Improvements Sanitary/Storm Sewer Construction Phase 1 (2015 Project) Phase 2 (2016 Project) Lake Elmo Avenue (CSAH 17)Corridor Management and Safety Improvement ProjectProject Schedule & Key MilestonesMunicipal Consent on 2/5Valley Branch Board Mtg 5/28City Council Approves One Cooperative Agreement for both 2015 and 2016 ProjectsCity Council Authorizes Feasibility Report on 2/28, Adopts Assessment Policy on 5/5Municipal Consent & County Board Layout Approval for 2016 Project8 Week Final Design for 2015 Project16 Week Final Design for 2016 ProjectRight of Way Acquisition (12 months shown)1 Week ReviewState Aid ReviewAdvertise Starts 5/1 (21 days)AdvertiseCounty Board Awards ProjectOpen Bids 5/21County Board Awards Project in JuneAssessment Public Hearing on 6/2Construct 2015 Project (16 Weeks) Oct 1 Substantial Completion to Base CourseConstruct 2016 Project2015 Project Clean Up & Pave Wear Final Completion July 11SFFJJMMAAMMJJJJAAONDS20152016C2016 Project2oMMCCMContinued Preliminary DesignContinued Preliminary Design - 2 months if neededO2/10/2015 50 SCALE IN FEET 5 5’ WALK 5’ BLVD 12’ WALK 5EAST AND WEST - PROJECT AREA ’A’ PREFERRED - 7’ WALK BEHIND CURB CONSTRUCTION LIMITS CSAH 17 PROJECT AREA ’A’ BEHIND CURB EAST AND WEST PREFERRED OPTION - 7’ WALK CSAH 17- 36TH TO TH 5 50 SCALE IN FEET 5’ WALK 5’ BLVD 12’ WALK 11’ THRU LANE 10’ PARKING 7’ WALK CSAH 17 36TH ST12’ RIGHT TURN LANE 10’ LEFT TURN LANE 7’ WALK 12’ RIGHT TURN LANE 7’ WALK 10’ LEFT TURN LANE 11’ THRU LANE 7’ WALK 6’ SHLD LEGEND PROPOSED WATERMAIN PROPOSED SANITARY SEWER PROPOSED STORM SEWER CONSTRUCTION LIMIT RIGHT OF WAY IN PLACE PROPERTY LINE 4/16/20153:28:21 PMS:\UZ\W\Washc\126774\4-preliminary-design\51-cadd\Misc_exhibits\Washc126774_CSAH17South_TreeRemovalExhibit - PREFERRED.dgnOF Plan View 3 - 5FILE NO. WASHC126774 ST. PAUL, MN 55110 3535 VADNAIS CENTER DR. PHONE: (651)490-2000 #11144 AUTO DEALER FURY MOTORS #3610 LOHMANN JAMES E #11127 GAS STATION LAKE ELMO OIL #11179 AUTO REPAIR LAKE ELMO REPAIR#3625 SCHUMACHER & APRIL C CURTIS R #3603 ALBRECHT ANDREA #3582 LOHMANN EVELETH I #3549 CHURCH PARKING LOT CHRIST LUTHERAN LEASE FOR BUILDING #3647 ELLIS & KATHLEEN BARRY E WEEKS LAKE ELMO AVE N 36TH ST NSTORM SEWER CATCH BASIN/MANHOLE PROPOSED SEWER SERVICE PROPOSED WATER SERVICE ANTICIPATED TREE REMOVAL 12045 50 SCALE IN FEET 4 5CSAH 17 PARKING BOTH SIDES - PROJECT AREA ’B’ OPTION #3 (PREFERRED) - WALK AND LAKE ELMO, OLD VILLAGE 2016 CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AREA ’B’ WALK AND PARKING BOTH SIDES OPTION #3 (PREFERRED) CSAH 17 33RD TO 35TH #3524 HJELMGREN & JOAN S WILLIAM C LEASE FOR BUILDING #3511CLINICCHIROPRACTICLAKE ELMO#3504 LAKE ELMO INN #3476ARTS BUILDINGPROFESSIONALLAKE ELMO#3466 LAKE ELMO INN #3442 LAKE ELMO INN#3 50 4LAKE ELMO I NN#111 2 3GRAI N ON MAI N#1 1 17 8& VI CKY REHAKJ OHN LENZMEI ER# 346 9US POS T OFFI CE#3 45 9FLY SHOPBOB MI TCHELL’S#3 4 59 I NSURANCENATI ONALAMERI CAN#3479ARCHITECTUREFINELINE#11104 INN LAKE ELMO #34 17MARGARET BUI LFOYLEJ OHN W BAI LLI E &#3514 INN LAKE ELMO #3546 & FLAG FLAGPOLE AMERICAN #11079 WICKER & CECILIA G WILLIAM H VILLAGE HAIR CARE #3517HAIR SALON #3515LAKE ELMO BARBER #3251RDWAGS #3479#3537 LIBRARY PUBLIC LAKE ELMO#3511WINE COMPANYLAKE ELMO34 TH ST N33 RD ST NUPPER 33 RD ST N35TH ST NUNI ON PACI FI C RAI LROADTREE SAVED FROM OPTION 11 STORM SEWER CATCH BASIN/MANHOLE PROPOSED SEWER SERVICE PROPOSED WATER SERVICE ANTICIPATED TREE REMOVAL 5535 40 11’ THRU LANE 11’ THRU LANE 10’ PARKING 10’ PARKING 12’ WALK 12’ WALK CSAH 17 33RD STLEGEND PROPOSED WATERMAIN PROPOSED SANITARY SEWER PROPOSED STORM SEWER CONSTRUCTION LIMIT RIGHT OF WAY IN PLACE PROPERTY LINE 4/16/20153:36:32 PMS:\UZ\W\Washc\126774\4-preliminary-design\51-cadd\Misc_exhibits\Washc126774_CSAH17South_TreeRemovalExhibit - PREFERRED.dgnOF Plan View 3 - 4FILE NO. WASHC126774 ST. PAUL, MN 55110 3535 VADNAIS CENTER DR. PHONE: (651)490-2000 50 SCALE IN FEET 3 5CSAH 17 WEST SIDE PARKING - PROJECT AREA ’C’ OPTION #3 (PREFERRED) - EAST SIDE WALK AND LAKE ELMO, OLD VILLAGE 2016 CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AREA ’C’ WALK AND WEST SIDE PARKING OPTION #3 (PREFERRED) - EAST SIDE CSAH 17 SOUTH OF RR TRACKS S T CROI X COUNSELI NGCRAFTY CHI CKSCHI ROPRACTORLAKE ELMO AUTO SALESPSYCHOLOGISTKLM ENGI NEERI NG# 3 394 J OSHUA L TAYLOR BLDG#33 80MARGI E FOXS COTT J AMES &#3360VICKI GRACZYK MICHAEL EDWARD & #3405 SUSAN C LANG #3385 HARTMEISTER KATHLEEN T #3351 SILBYK NEUMANN MARTIN J & #3303 DONALD J BAKER #3287 CATHERINE HELMS #3263 CAROL W STUDE ROBERT H & #3326 PATRICIA SCHNEIDER MYRON L & JOSEPH D ROGERS TRS #3373 ANDERSON & PATRICI RUSSELL W #3258 ENGSTROM BRUCE R #3296 ENGDAHL STEVEN J ANNE T & #3308 KUBITSCHEK RICHARD #3348 SWAN & CHLOE J MICHAEL D #3337 DEGREE THOMAS M32ND ST NTREE SAVED FROM OPTION 11 STORM SEWER CATCH BASIN/MANHOLE PROPOSED SEWER SERVICE PROPOSED WATER SERVICE ANTICIPATED TREE REMOVAL 25 30 5’ WALK 6’ SHOULDER 11’ THRU LANE 11’ THRU LANE 10’ PARKING CSAH 17 7’ WALK 5’ BLVD 6’ SHOULDER11’ THRU LANE11’ THRU LANE6’ SHOULDER LEGEND PROPOSED WATERMAIN PROPOSED SANITARY SEWER PROPOSED STORM SEWER CONSTRUCTION LIMIT RIGHT OF WAY IN PLACE PROPERTY LINE 4/16/20152:52:06 PMS:\UZ\W\Washc\126774\4-preliminary-design\51-cadd\Misc_exhibits\Washc126774_CSAH17South_TreeRemovalExhibit - PREFERRED.dgnOF Plan View 3 - 3FILE NO. WASHC126774 ST. PAUL, MN 55110 3535 VADNAIS CENTER DR. PHONE: (651)490-2000 1 1 50 SCALE IN FEET 2 5CSAH 17 WEST SIDE PARKING - PROJECT AREA ’C’ OPTION #3 (PREFERRED) - EAST SIDE WALK AND LAKE ELMO, OLD VILLAGE 2016 CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AREA ’C’ WALK AND WEST SIDE PARKING OPTION #3 (PREFERRED)- EAST SIDE CSAH 17 SOUTH OF RR TRACKS #11240 SUSAN L PROKOSCH #3240 SCHMIDT WARREN ROBERT#3200 CONSTANCE K SMITH #11200 SCHRADE ROGER A #11212 SACHS & DEBORAH J RICHARD J #11230 TERRELL SARA A #11225 ANDERSON CLAUDIA J JEFFREY A & #3151 MCCUNE & ROCHELLE M LUC M DUPIUS #3131 MCCUNE ROCHELLE M #3124 GEVING NANCY E #3100 CAROL BANISTER FREDERICK J & #3160 ELLEN KOHN THEODORE M & #3203 SACHS JR RICHARD J #3217 HAWTHORNE & AMANDA L TRENTON J #3235 BEERS TRS & EDNA T JAMES G BEERS #3109 LUC DUPUIS MCCUNE & ROCHELLE M SMITH HORTTOR CAROLYN M 32ND ST NLAKE ELMO AVE N 31ST ST N32ND ST NTREE SAVED FROM OPTION 11 STORM SEWER CATCH BASIN/MANHOLE PROPOSED SEWER SERVICE PROPOSED WATER SERVICE ANTICIPATED TREE REMOVAL 20 5’ WALK 6’ SHOULDER 11’ THRU LANE 11’ THRU LANE 10’ PARKING CSAH 17 CSAH 17 5’ BLVD LEGEND PROPOSED WATERMAIN PROPOSED SANITARY SEWER PROPOSED STORM SEWER CONSTRUCTION LIMIT RIGHT OF WAY IN PLACE PROPERTY LINE 4/16/20152:51:13 PMS:\UZ\W\Washc\126774\4-preliminary-design\51-cadd\Misc_exhibits\Washc126774_CSAH17South_TreeRemovalExhibit - PREFERRED.dgnOF Plan View 3 - 2FILE NO. WASHC126774 ST. PAUL, MN 55110 3535 VADNAIS CENTER DR. PHONE: (651)490-2000 11 1 1 11 1 1 1 50 SCALE IN FEET 1 5CSAH 17 WEST SIDE PARKING - PROJECT AREA ’C’ OPTION #3 (PREFERRED) - EAST SIDE WALK AND LAKE ELMO, OLD VILLAGE 2016 CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AREA ’C’ WALK AND WEST SIDE PARKING OPTION #3 (PREFERRED) - EAST SIDE CSAH 17 SOUTH OF RR TRACKS #2976 BUTENHOFF BONNIE J #2989 JOLLYMORE GARY M #2986 GUNDERSON MARLON O #3095 WESLEY S MCCUNE #3025 WILLIAMS MARJORIE F TODD R & #3012 AMANDA SUE FLOERKE JAMES LEONARD &#3060 PATRICIA HAGBERG WILLIAM C & #3100 CAROL BANISTER FREDERICK J & #3025 WILLIAMS MARJORIE F TODD R & #3063 SCHMIDT BRUCE C#11205ASHLEYJULIA M30TH ST NTREE SAVED FROM OPTION 11 STORM SEWER CATCH BASIN/MANHOLE PROPOSED SEWER SERVICE PROPOSED WATER SERVICE ANTICIPATED TREE REMOVAL 901 0 15 5’ WALK 6’ SHOULDER 11’ THRU LANE 11’ THRU LANE 10’ PARKING CSAH 17 30TH ST5’ BLVD LEGEND PROPOSED WATERMAIN PROPOSED SANITARY SEWER PROPOSED STORM SEWER CONSTRUCTION LIMIT RIGHT OF WAY IN PLACE PROPERTY LINE4/16/20152:50:13 PMS:\UZ\W\Washc\126774\4-preliminary-design\51-cadd\Misc_exhibits\Washc126774_CSAH17South_TreeRemovalExhibit - PREFERRED.dgnOF Plan View 3 - 1FILE NO. WASHC126774 ST. PAUL, MN 55110 3535 VADNAIS CENTER DR. PHONE: (651)490-2000 1 1 1 1 50 SCALE IN FEET 1 330TH ST N PROJECT AREA ’D’ PREFERRED - 5’ BLVD AND 5’ WALK LAKE ELMO, OLD VILLAGE 2016 CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AREA ’D’ 5’ BLVD AND 5’ WALK 30TH ST N - OPTION #3 (PREFERRED) 11’ THRU LANE14’ THRU LANE 14’ THRU LANE 5’ BLVD 5’ WALK 30TH ST N 30TH ST N #2965JOHNSONSTEPHEN D#2989JOLLYMOREGARY M#3025WILLIAMSMARJORIE FTODD R &#3025WILLIAMSMARJORIE FTODD R &#11205 ASHLEY JULIA M 11217 KRESSIN VIRGINIA JEROME & 11227 JOHNSON SUSAN LACHLER- #11259 MAZZARA MICHAEL J #11291 WEHKING TERRY J & ROY #11307 DIETHERT NANCY J JACK R & #11326 RYBERG CANDACE Q PAUL A & #11316 SWANSON BARBARA J RONALD V & #11280 ARNT RICHARD W #11256 ANDREW J PERTZ 30TH ST N 30TH ST N STORM SEWER CATCH BASIN/MANHOLE PROPOSED SEWER SERVICE PROPOSED WATER SERVICE ANTICIPATED TREE REMOVAL 90 95 LEGEND PROPOSED WATERMAIN PROPOSED SANITARY SEWER PROPOSED STORM SEWER CONSTRUCTION LIMIT RIGHT OF WAY IN PLACE PROPERTY LINE 4/16/20153:12:50 PMS:\UZ\W\Washc\126774\4-preliminary-design\51-cadd\Misc_exhibits\Washc126774_30th_PlanViewOptions.dgnOF Preferred 1FILE NO. WASHC126774 ST. PAUL, MN 55110 3535 VADNAIS CENTER DR. PHONE: (651)490-2000 50 SCALE IN FEET 2 330TH ST N PROJECT AREA ’D’ PREFERRED - 5’ BLVD AND 5’ WALK LAKE ELMO, OLD VILLAGE 2016 CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AREA ’D’ 5’ BLVD AND 5’ WALK 30TH ST N - OPTION #3 (PREFERRED) 14’ THRU LANE 14’ THRU LANE 5’ WALK 5’ BLVD 30TH ST N #11333 METCALF HEATHER R MARK G &#11357 DANIELSON DIANA M TIMOTHY J & #11377 JAHNKE SHIRLEY A ROLAND J & #11397 DAVID E HARPER JOHN K LECY & #11443 KAREN U KNOWLAN #2988 GARNER JERILYN M DONALD J & #11356 GLANZER JANE JARVIS & #11326 RYBERG CANDACE Q PAUL A & STORM SEWER CATCH BASIN/MANHOLE PROPOSED SEWER SERVICE PROPOSED WATER SERVICE ANTICIPATED TREE REMOVAL 100 105 895 895 895896 896 896 897 897 89 8 898 LEGEND PROPOSED WATERMAIN PROPOSED SANITARY SEWER PROPOSED STORM SEWER CONSTRUCTION LIMIT RIGHT OF WAY IN PLACE PROPERTY LINE 4/16/20153:13:58 PMS:\UZ\W\Washc\126774\4-preliminary-design\51-cadd\Misc_exhibits\Washc126774_30th_PlanViewOptions.dgnOF Preferred 2FILE NO. WASHC126774 ST. PAUL, MN 55110 3535 VADNAIS CENTER DR. PHONE: (651)490-2000 50 SCALE IN FEET 3 330TH ST N PROJECT AREA ’D’ PREFERRED - 5’ BLVD AND 5’ WALK LAKE ELMO, OLD VILLAGE 2016 CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AREA ’D’ 5’ BLVD AND 5’ WALK 30TH ST N - OPTION #3 (PREFERRED) 14’ THRU LANE 14’ THRU LANE 5’ WALK 5’ BLVD 30TH ST N #2955 SUSAN D CORCORAN ASSOCIATION HOMEOWNER HERITAGE FARMS CO GAS NATURAL NORTHERN ASSOCIATION HOMEOWNER HERITAGE FARMS #11520 DICKENSON AMY B KEVIN T & ASSOCIATION TOWNHOUSE ELMO VIEW 30TH ST N LEGION AVE NLISBON AVE NSTORM SEWER CATCH BASIN/MANHOLE PROPOSED SEWER SERVICE PROPOSED WATER SERVICE ANTICIPATED TREE REMOVAL LEGEND PROPOSED WATERMAIN PROPOSED SANITARY SEWER PROPOSED STORM SEWER CONSTRUCTION LIMIT RIGHT OF WAY IN PLACE PROPERTY LINE 4/16/20153:14:54 PMS:\UZ\W\Washc\126774\4-preliminary-design\51-cadd\Misc_exhibits\Washc126774_30th_PlanViewOptions.dgnOF Preferred 3FILE NO. WASHC126774 ST. PAUL, MN 55110 3535 VADNAIS CENTER DR. PHONE: (651)490-2000 Lake Elmo Avenue Corridor & Utility Improvements March 5th Neighborhood Focus Groups Meeting Summary Updated April 13, 2015 Meeting Description The neighborhood focus groups were held on 3/5/15 at Christ Lutheran Church. Three groups met for 60 minutes each starting at 5:00 pm, 6:15 pm, and 7:30 pm. A total of 91 invitations were sent out to properties along Lake Elmo Ave N and 30th St N, the Mayor, and a representative of Legion Ave. Each focus group session began with a brief introductory presentation and then either broke out into one-on-one sessions or had a group Q&A. Presentation materials were assembled into packets for each property owner that included layout alternatives and cross sections. Comments Cards and FAQ sheets on Right-of-Way and Compensation, Tree Impacts, and Pedestrian Facilities were also included in each packet. Packets remaining at the end of the meeting were mailed to the property owners. Attendance ~ 50 People were present at the 3/5/15 Neighborhood Focus Groups: • 39 Property Owners signed in • 7 Staff were present • 3 Councilmembers, the Mayor, the County Engineer, and the County Commissioner attended Comments & Community Feedback All of the recorded comments and feedback include: • Written comments submitted at meeting (7) • Emailed comments (6) • Staff notes on community feedback (1) The common themes we heard from the community feedback are below: • Mix of support and critique for pedestrian improvements • Questions or concerns about the cost of assessments • Specific property details for utility placements Comment Cards Received (Verbatim) A total of (6) written comments were submitted at the Neighborhood Focus Groups. • Comment Card 1: (Dale Quast) What is the financial responsibility for the County, also City responsibility and business or resident obligation? There is a limited amount of landscaping available. You have to address the parking problem especially in December when the Elmo Inn has their Xmas parties. Do not get me wrong, I think it’s great John has such a great business, and I don’t think it’s all his problem to create more parking. But it’s still a problem! • Comment Card 2 (Don and Lynn Gerner) We strongly oppose sidewalks. We don’t like a sidewalk going across our back yard. • Comment Card 3 (Kit Kubitschek) If we are going to do new street down Lake Elmo Ave, now would be the time to construct necessary requirements needed for Quiet Zone with the trains. It will only increase taxpayer cost to do this post project. • Comment Card 4 (Andrew Pertz) I am in favor of putting a pedestrian path on 30th. It will be needed for future growth. • Comment Card 5 (April Schumacher) Lake Elmo has always been special because of the old “vintage” feel. The mature trees have a direct effect on this little downtown. When we first moved to our house in ’91 the downtown had many wonderful businesses. Over the last 20 years I have watched the city council chase almost all of them way. Making the downtown pretty won’t keep businesses. I believe the sidewalk was not well thought out. And I have a feeling that no matter what the homeowner want the city will do as it pleases. • Comment Card 6 (Karen Knowlan) If we have a sidewalk, I would prefer bituminous. I would want to be paid for my property and would like the city to do snow removal. • Comment Card 7 (Beth Ashley) I previously opposed sidewalk due to removal of my trees, however, it appears they will be removed either way. I would like to see option 3. I would also like to recommend poop bag stations as I do not want the sidewalk full of dog poop. Also, I really think the Council needs to realize that snow removal will be difficult for the elderly citizens on 30th, not to mention unsafe. Snow removal on sidewalks should not be expected, I think if owner responsibility is removed from plan, more of 30th would be on board. Emailed Comments A total of (6) email comments were submitted. • Email Comment 6 – Received 3/23/15 (Shelly McCune & Pete Dupuis) Hi – we are out of town and have not been able to attend the meetings for the LE Ave right-of-way. Thank you for mailing the information. It appears that there are options on the table to have no parking on Lake Elmo Ave N. We would like to voice our concerns for this. We just don’t know why there we even be a consideration of this sort. The no parking from 2am-6am is bad enough but to have zero parking would be an extreme hardship for those living on LE Ave. Please Please Please – DO NOT consider this option. Our opinion is to develop the most cost effective option with parking along one side or another. Thank you for considering our input. • Email Comment 5 – Received 3/16/15 (Roy, Lynn, and Terry Wehking) On 30th St N These are our concerns: - Where do we park? We have 3 people going to work each day and can barely get out now. - Security. If we have people walking close to the house, that is a problem. Very few people walk on this road, but we have concerns. Lake Elmo Ave Corridor & Utility Improvements – Neighborhood Focus Groups 2 - Meeting Summary 2 - A wider road means cars traveling faster. We could understand more if some slight curves were put in the road. The worst offender is Stillwater School District buses. I have brought this up before. Green Lake Elmo dump truck is next in line of speeders. - What was the point of the photos of the street? We don’t see and relevante to anything. - Also we don’t see that the city has a legal right-of-way. Last time this road was expanded we lost 7 trees and for what? - We heard from the neighbors, there were a lot of nonsense ideas about accidents and parking. So much words about a nonexistent problem. - We have 2 septic systems. We have a concern about the costs. - Lastly, seems strange this is all being done by those who don’t live on this street and have too much time on their minds to even think of suck foolishnesh. We have previously expressed our thoughts but to no avail. It’s nice we are being told about it, but it’s nothing more than a few people telling us what they will do. We have no word. A small town? No, a small town who tells us how it will be. Very sad. The young and inexperienced determine the fate of the tried and true. I’ll give you a call. • Email Comment 4 – Received 3/9/15 (Jerry Kromschroeder from Village Hair Care) The final design from Lake Elmo Ave from Hwy 5 south to the Railroad tracks should include the following: 1) Designated handicapped parking from 36th Street South to the RR tracks 2) Curb cut-outs for wheelchair access from street to sidewalk: one between library and Village Hair Care, one around 3511 and one at the Post Office. The curb cut-out should be as shown: (sketch showing a curb cut located adjacent to a mid-block handicapped stall) 3) Trees, landscaping etc. NOT required on sidewalks. Trees = obstacle from car to business. Trees = difficult to plow snow off sidewalks. This area of town is not a place where people congregate. It is a place where they park their car, do their business, and then leave. They do not shop, no places to shop. What the benches will do is provide neighborhood kids a place to hang out, skate board, etc. and obstruct access to business. If the need for fancy sidewalks and boulevards is thought to be for the people to park on the street and the wander around town for an extended period an dhang out on a bench to watch traffic drive by it is a bad plan. The few parking spaces are needed for the business patrons, which park, get the services they need for the businesses and then leave. 1 hour max parked time is usually long enough to stay. I have seen many different types of businesses come and go over the 35 years we have owned on Main Street. 80% have failed. None would have a better chance of success if Lake Elmo Avenue was over done with landscaping, trees etc. on the sidewalks. 4) If the “quaint” Old Village look is to be retained, the existing structures must be retained. The total construction, water, sewer, underground electric and new road costs (assessments) will most probably put many of the existing businesses out of business. You will see more “for sale” or “for rent” signs around Main Street. $15,000 to $25,000 in assessments for our building 3517 LEA (around $90,000 assessed value) is not sustainable. We cannot stay in business. NO value added to the value of our building. 5) Stillwater and Woodbury will Always be the destination for locals to go to shop. • Email Comment 3 –Received 3/12/15 (Don Baker, DBA ARCHITECTS) Hello Frank, My preference in order for the CASH 17 Typical Sections are: 1. Option 1 2. Option 3 3. Option 4 4. Option 2 With regards to hookups for sewer and water: Lake Elmo Ave Corridor & Utility Improvements – Neighborhood Focus Groups 2 - Meeting Summary 3 Water: The location shown for the water service DOES WORK. The water presently comes in about where shown. My water meter is on the north side of my house in the northwest corner of the basement. Sewer: The location shown for the sewer service DOES NOT WORK. The sewer presently comes out of my basement on the south side of the house about two thirds of the way back from the front. • Email Comment 2 –Received 3/11/15 (John Whitcomb, AginCourt, LLC) 1) The water and sewer connection for this property should come out on the Lake Elmo Ave side of the building—not upper 33rd. 2) I would like to have a surmountable curb on my south line to allow head in parking like we have now vs. parallel we lose 4-5 spots with the proposed arrangement. 3) We have a huge amount of sidewalk in front of my building. Once complete, who is responsible for all of this sidewalk maintenance? 25’ of sidewalk seems excessive. 4) Email Comment 3 –Received 3/11/15 (John Whitcomb, AginCourt, LLC) • Email Comment 1 –Received 2/27/15 (Todd & Marjorie Williams) We will not be able to attend the “Neighborhood Focus Group Meeting” on Mar 5, 2015. Therefore, on Feb. 25, 2015 we spent time with Mr. Ticknor to go over the various options to be presented at that Mar 5 meeting. Below are our thoughts about this project as of the current time. First, we do not feel that any design of the road (Lake Elmo Ave from the railroad tracks to 30th St.) is necessary. In the 42 years we have lived at our current address, we have not been aware of any traffic problems caused by the current design. In fact, we have driven, walked and biked along this road for many years and feel quite comfortable doing so. The shoulder is wide enough on both sides that we feel comfortable walking with our 2 and 3 year old grandsons. Second, if in the infinite wisdom of the City and County, the road must be redesigned, we favor a modification of Option #3, which calls for a sidewalk on the east side and parking lane on the west side. The modification we favor uses a minimum width sidewalk (which we understand to be no more than 7 feet) and no boulevard. We have had very little success maintaining decent grass in the present boulevard, which is 8-12 feet wide, primarily because of salt from the road. We predict there would be even less success with a narrower boulevard. Thus, no boulevard should be installed. Note that this modified option will give a total paved width of 45 feet, whereas the current paved width is 44 feet. Thus, this option results in the smallest increase in paved surface of all the options. There is no need for a dedicated bike trail, because it will not connect to any other dedicated trail, and anyone biking through will use the regular road anyway. Families with small children on bikes can use the sidewalk or parking lane. We do not agree that a boulevard will provide for snow storage and allow the sidewalk to be cleared of snow in the winter. The snowplows currently throw snow well beyond an imaginary 5 foot boulevard. Also, it is not realistic to expect homeowners along this road to shovel and keep clear any sidewalk. It simply will not happen. Remember, the lots are significantly wider than typical “urban” lots, and the houses are set back further, diminishing the need to connect house and sidewalk. If people want to walk or bike along there in the winter, they can do so in the shoulder or parking lane, which is where they do it now. Third, we strongly feel that redesign of 30th St from Lake Elmo Ave to Lisbon Ave should be done. In contrast to traversing Lake Elmo Ave, we do NOT feel safe walking on 30th St with or without our grandsons. There is not enough room. Therefore, we agree that a sidewalk should be provided. For similar reasons as expressed above, we favor a 7 foot sidewalk with no boulevard as the least disruptive option. In summary, we favor no redesign of Lake Elmo Ave from the railroad tracks to 30th St. If the City and County decide that redesign is needed, then Option #3 with no boulevard and a seven foot sidewalk is the preferred Lake Elmo Ave Corridor & Utility Improvements – Neighborhood Focus Groups 2 - Meeting Summary 4 option. Finally, while not specifically a subject for the Mar 5 meeting, 30th St does need a new design, with a seven foot sidewalk and no boulevard being preferred. Sincerely, Todd and Marjorie Williams Staff Notes The following section includes staff notes recapping the discussions and comments heard from the community. • Nick Johnson Notes Kevin Peterson and I just completed a productive meeting with Pastor Julie Rogness and Board President Scott Glewwe of Christ Lutheran Church. I wanted to send out a meeting recap while all of the details and points of emphasis are fresh in my head. During the meeting, there was discussion on the following: 1. Sidewalk Design. The Church confirmed that they prefer the sidewalk to be directly behind the curb on both the east and south sides of the church property. They also did not have any concern about a boulevard on the south side of 36th Street. They did want to make sure that their parking lot be restored as close to its current configuration as possible. 2. Trunk Sewer Stub Along North Property Line. We discussed the proposed sewer stub that may be necessary along the northern portion of the church property to serve the residential parcels on Lake Elmo Avenue. Kevin and I shared that this service stub is likely not necessary, as these properties can be served from Lake Elmo Avenue. They were pleased with the possibility that the service does not need to run through their parking lot. I told them that we would keep them up-to-date as possible on this aspect of the design. 3. Sewer Service Stubs. Pastor Julie identified the general locations of the present sewer service lines that serve the church. Kevin notified them that Jeff Thene would likely contact them to complete a site visit to coordinate utility hookups. 4. Accessibility During Construction. Pastor Julie noted that the summer is a good time of construction for the church, as there are less activities. However, she emphasized that Sundays and Wednesday evening are busier times for the church, attracting more traffic. Wednesday evening are not as critical during the summer, but are important in the fall. We told them that this type of information is valuable for the contractor in trying to accommodate property owners as best as possible. Pastor Julie noted that there is a large wedding planned on October 3rd as well. For other unexpected events (i.e. funerals), Julie will coordinate these types of activities with the construction manager once selected. 5. Alley Improvements. The Church again inquired about the possibility of improvements to the alley south of 36th Street. The alley serves two residential properties and the church-owned commercial site and parking lot before connecting to the City library. The alley is presently in bad shape. I will inquire with the Administrator and Council if improving the alley should be considered as part of this project. Although I know there is a definite sensitivity to adding cost at this time. I would assume the alley improvements could be completed in 2015 or 2016 if the Council chose to include them in the project. 6. Church Signage. The latest construction limits for the project would impact the Church’s monument sign at the northeast corner of 36th Street and Lake Elmo Avenue. The church wanted to know if we would move the sign as part of construction and restore it. Or would they be compensated through the temporary easement process. This is a question most likely for Mindy. The Church also asked me about additional allowances for signage on their parking lot property and other sites. I will follow up with them on the City’s sign ordinance and what is allowed. Lake Elmo Ave Corridor & Utility Improvements – Neighborhood Focus Groups 2 - Meeting Summary 5 Overall, it was a positive and productive meeting. Pastor Julie is great to work with. Let Kevin or I know if there are any questions. Thanks, Nick M. Johnson | City Planner Lake Elmo Ave Corridor & Utility Improvements – Neighborhood Focus Groups 2 - Meeting Summary 6 2014 Resident Survey: 30th Street Sidewalk Date: 10/15/14 The City conducted a survey to gain insight into public opinion regarding a sidewalk being installed on the south side of 30th Street near Lake Elmo Ave. The survey asked two question and provided a section for residents to write comments or concerns. In total, 57 residents responded with the majority in favor of the sidewalk. The results of the survey are as follows: Question 1: Would you be in favor of the City installing a sidewalk on the south side of 30th Street? Results: 67% (38 of 57 answered “Yes” 28% (16 of 57) answered “No” 6% (3 of 57) answered “Undecided” Question 2: Would you be willing to sell/provide a minimal amount (approx. 10-15 feet) of additional right-of-way on the south side of 30th Street for the City to complete the improvements? Results: 21% (12 of 57) answered “Yes” 17.5% (10 of 57) answered “No” 60% (34 of 57) answered “Not Applicable” 1.5% (1 of 57) answered “Undecided” Of the property owners directly affected by the installation of the proposed sidewalk, the results are as follows: Question 1: Would you be in favor of the City installing a sidewalk on the south side of 30th Street? Results: 30% (3 of 10 answered “Yes” 60% (6 of 10) answered “No” 10% (1 of 10) answered “Undecided” Question 2: Would you be willing to sell/provide a minimal amount (approx. 10-15 feet) of additional right-of-way on the south side of 30th Street for the City to complete the improvements? Results: 40% (4 of 10) answered “Yes” 60% (6 of 10) answered “No” Results Comments The survey provided space for residents to write their comments and concerns and a wide range of comments were received. 70% were in support of the sidewalk (28 of 39) with 30% (12 of 27) stating that 30th Street is currently unsafe for pedestrians and the sidewalk is a necessity. The comments were categorized and the results are as follows: Comment Category Number of Comments In Favor: General 2 Safety Increases with Sidewalk 12 Connection to Village Area 3 Promote Pedestrian Activity 1 Develop Healthy Communities 1 Support with Contingency: Replace Trees 3 Include Crosswalk to Reid Park 1 Use the North Side of 30th 2 Sidewalk on South Side Only 1 Use HOA Land 1 Put Sidewalk Through Reid Park 1 Opposed: Property Value Concerns 2 Snow Removal Maintenance 6 Cost of Project Too High 1 General: Expand Shoulder Instead 2 Neighbor is Opposed 1 Total 39 A wide range of comments were received, but the issues of safety, connection, property value and snow removal maintenance received the most comments. Safety: We would love to have a safe connection from Heritage Farms neighborhood to the downtown area. The road near 30th Street and Lisbon is narrow for walking, running, and biking especially for the safety of children. A sidewalk along 30th Street would greatly improve the safety of both bikes and pet walkers. This would make 30th a more safe walking/biking road. I walk my dog every day on 30th (for 15 years). I have almost been hit many times! We live on Lisbon Ave N and run/walk on 30th all year long. Sidewalks are needed!!! The road is too narrow and vehicles don’t always yield to pedestrians. Should have been done 17 years ago! It is needed for safety and to be connected to the village . We now rent our property in Lake Elmo so I don’t feel our input is very applicable. Also, the property we own is on the north side of 30th and away from the road. However, as a runner, and a mother, it felt dangerous to go down that street. Needed attention, very hard to walk in this area. Almost been hit by cars when walking. Snow Removal Maintenance: If the sidewalk is installed, will the property owners be required to keep clean (snow removal in winter?) Shovel and plow in winter! Sidewalks mean snow removal. We work retail and can’t always make it happen in a timely manner. Use the street north of 30th and wind it through the park and out. I don’t want to do the maintenance on the sidewalk in winter. I think it is just fine the way it is. I enjoy the country living without a sidewalk. The north side may be viable, if the sidewalk is located where the existing curb is and the road is shifted to the south while potentially viable, the cost would likely be prohibitive. A sidewalk would be nice, but who will maintain it, shovel it, etc. What about adding 4 to 6 feet to the road width? This would allow a wider bike/walking lane on each side of the street. The project would take out valued trees, cause a liability for shoveling the sidewalk and add cost of taxes where the expensive sewer. Put it on the north side of 30th. Property Value: Would there be a cost to homeowners on 30th Street-an assessment? Would the sidewalk affect property values? Not in favor of increased costs for the residents since it will serve the whole city. It would not be good for our property value to have a sidewalk in our backyard. Stormwater drain in 15ft area “works good” and power pole cable supports to south in 15ft area. Comments We were told when we built our home that there would be a path from Lisbon Ave N to Lake Elmo Ave on 30th Street. However, when they redid the road, they did not put in the path. Lake Elmo needs sidewalks and paths so our children and adults can walk safely in our community. At present, it is dangerous to walk 30th Street. Sidewalk or a wide shoulder on the south side would be a great improvement. We need a safe walking “path” on 30th Street! So many people of all ages walk along 30th...which is too narrow for strollers etc. Please... for everyone’s safety...designate a sidewalk, right-of-way, etc. Thank you! When 30th was upgraded, pedestrians lost adequate shoulders on this street. We don’t really need a sidewalk, we need wider shoulders on the sides of 30th. Come up with some street design that would FORCE drivers to drive the posted speed of 30mph! When driving lanes were widened, driving speeds increased. Connection: I love the idea of walking and biking trails cross-cutting through the village. Leave the car at home! Walk more! It is needed for safety and to be connected to the village. We would love to have a safe connection from Heritage Farms neighborhood to the downtown area. More trails, sidewalks, and paths would be greatly appreciated. Other Comments: Our HOA may have property on 30th, if so, I’d be in favor of providing the right of way for this purpose. I am in favor of this as long as nothing happens to the north side of the road. Use the north side where the hills across from us consist of dead grass hills which are unusable, and there is the park. Take that land. Last time 30th changed, we lost land and 5 trees with no compensation. What we have now is more traffic and speeding school buses. We have limited parking space trying to stay away from the pine sap. Few walkers use 30th St. Sidewalks mean snow removal. We work retail and can’t always make it happen in a timely manner. Use the street north of 30th and wind it through the park and out. Extend path from Lisbon into Reid Park on north side of 30th. Improve trails in Reid Park. Do this ASAP- Clear out trees and brush in front of park so park is in full view. Place crosswalk paint from sidewalk to park. Park not used because dark, dreary, possibly dangerous for children. If the price is right, I’d be willing to sell 10-15 ft. There is already a sidewalk in place and our property is part of the MN Land Trust. Talked to neighbors and they definitely do not want it. Sidewalk is unnecessary. The project would be a waste of time and money. PS thank you for fixing the grade from Lake Elmo Ave to 30th St. Should be in favor of sidewalks if trees are replaced on the boulevard if taken down to make room for sidewalks. Either side. I would consider 10 ft from the curb going south. So glad Lake Elmo is becoming more pedestrian/bike friendly. Really helps build a healthy community! Yes, love the idea! Would be great. We love out city! Comments 30th Street 30th Street 30th Street Surveys Surveys Surveys Surveys Surveys Surveys Surveys Surveys Surveys Surveys Surveys Surveys Surveys Surveys