HomeMy WebLinkAboutPark Commission Minutes May 2015MINUTES
City of Lake Elmo Park Commission
May 18th, 2015
Members Present: Weis, Steele, Silvernale, Nelson, Frick, Zeno, Ames
Members Absent: Hartley, Hieptas
Others Present: Administrator Zuleger, Homestead HOA Representatives, Roger Knutson et
al (on Pickleball), Mayor Pearson, Rolf Larsen, Anthony Manzara, DPW Mike Bouthilet, Jaime
Colemer
The meeting was called to order by Chair Weis at 6:32 PM.
Approval of Agenda
M/S/P: Weis/Frick: To approve the agenda as printed.
Approval of April 20, 2015 Minutes
M/S/P: Frick/Steele: Approved as amended 6-0 with minor syntax changes with Ames
abstaining as he was not present at the April 20th meeting.
Presentations
Pickleball Presentation – At the request of Commissioner Nelson, a group of Lake Elmo
residents, led by Roger Knutson, made a presentation to the Park Commission on the growing
popularity of the sport of pickleball and the interest many Lake Elmo residents have in the
sport. The sport is a cross between tennis, badminton, and ping pong. The sport uses a hard
paddle and wiffle ball and is played on a 20’X44” court. The sport is noisy. Woodbury
converted some tennis courts and the sport has evolved where they have formalized clubs,
which have become revenue generators for some cities. The Stillwater School District and the
Stillwater Community Recreation teaches lessons.
Commissioner Frick asked if participation is limited by warmer than average temperature in the
summer. Knutson noted that it was not a limiting factor. Commissioner Steele asked if there
were currently any courts in the area. The group noted that there were several in the area
including North Hill Park in Stillwater, Walton Park in Oakdale, Oak Park Heights, Tartan Park,
and several sites in Woodbury.
Commissioner Ames asked where an ideal location might be in Lake Elmo. The group thought
that Tablyn Park could be a good location as the tennis courts are in bad shape and could be
converted. There was consensus that Tablyn should be considered. Lions Park was suggested
for its central location. It was noted that Wildflower / Gonyea would be including a pickle ball
courts in there new park. The area next to the tennis courts in Pebble were discussed as a
possibility. The costs of courts were discussed with pricing ranging from $11,000 to convert a
tennis court into 4 courts to $650,000 for a build new complex for a 12 court complex with
lights in Arizona. Commissioner Ames asked about maintenance. It was noted that it was similar
to a tennis court.
M/S/P Weis/ Zeno: Investigate with the Stillwater School District the possibility of
adding pickle ball to the tennis courts and for staff to assemble costs /
potential other park locations for installation.
Sunfish Fish Lake Nature Center - Mr. Anthony Manzara presented a concept (Via Power Point)
to the Parks Commission to construct an Interpretive Nature Center in Sunfish Lake Park as a
memorial to his wife, who loved Sunfish Lake Park. The Center would be built with private
funds through a foundation of some sort so that funds could be tax deductible, and that Mr.
Manzara would match up to $125,000 and then the facility would be turned over to the City.
The City would be responsible for utilities, maintenance and building security. Perhaps a
private, on-going fundraising endowment could be utilized to fund staff, signage, and other
educational matter Mr. Manzara noted that he had approached a local architect for pro bono
design work. The timeline for the project would be to obtain approvals from all governing
bodies in July 2015 (Park Commission, Planning Commission and City Council), break ground in
the Spring of 2016, and then open in August 2016. Commission Ames thanked Mr. Manzara for
his generosity and asked about the cost of operation. It was noted that an annual operating
budget would be approximately $100,000 with a ½ time naturalist and volunteers running the
facility. Commissioner Ames continued with a question about what the unmet need for this
facility. Mr. Manzara led a roundtable discussion that noted the building would be under local
control, it would be utilized by school groups and other naturalist groups, and it could be used
for special events like the Volksmarcht.
Commissioner Frick noted there was a substantial turnout for the Sunfish Lake Nature Event
and a nature center such as proposed would have been helpful and she saw a great opportunity
for school children use of a building. Commissioner Steele said that such a facility could
broaden the conceptions / use of Sunfish Lake Park. Planning Commissioner Larson asked how
long it would be before the City could hire a Parks Director. Administrator Zuleger noted that he
saw that as far off in the future. Commissioner Silvernale noted that he felt that the center
would be used by school children as he had traveled to the Warner Center (2X) per year for
school. Commissioner Frick wondered if there would be any available grants for a project of this
type. Commissioner Steele asked if there were any MN Land Trust implications. Commissioner
Frick noted that the Park Commission would have to consider if Area 2 was eligible for such a
facility.
M/S/P Frick/ Ames: Proceed looking into the development of the Nature Center and
to encourage Mr. Manzara to advance his project to the Planning Commission
and City Council.
Old Business– Homestead Park Plan Update
Homestead Pollinator Project – Administrator Zuleger wanted the Park Commission to know
that the city had planted over 300 trees in Area B that were mowed down by the developer.
Shelli Wilk from the Homestead HOA noted that only 2 of the original 18 homeowners now live
there and no one could recall trees being planted. Bouthilet noted that the trees were provided
by the MNDNR for free and labor was minimal. The work was done in accordance with the MN
Land Trust. The Commission agreed to move ahead with the previously approved plan to turn
Outlot B into a pollinator conservancy.
Sunfish Lake Forestry Plan – Contract Forester Steve Kunde gave an update on his activities
with respect to a management plan for Sunfish Lake. He has spoken with Ann Thies of the MN
Land Trust who is very cautious and wants to make sure things are done correctly. He has
spoken to Steven Handler who is a climate change specialist about “right” strategies as to not
affect the ecosystem. He has spoken with Lee Froelich of the University of Minnesota as well as
Wiley Buck from the Great River Greening Commission on buckthorn. He has also spoken with
Chad Gellner from Lake City who is experienced in tree harvesting in difficult situations. The
topography, the buckthorn, and disease control like Oak Wilt are all things that have to be
considered when managing this forest. Currently Kunde is looking for supplemental funding
for this fall/winter tree harvest. In addition, Kunde has been evaluating the present hazardous
tree situation.
Commissioner Frick asked if there was any funding available from grants Kunde noted that he
was trying to put a coalition together. Commissioner Frick, noting the time it has taken to get
this far, asked Kunde if he was 100% certain that harvest would happen this winter. Kunde
noted that most of the plan is drafted and he was hoping to break-even on the harvest.
Commissioner Frick noted that we have to strike a balance for the ecosystem. Kunde said that
that he is trying to accomplish this without major logging, but ultimately the Commission will
have to make a decision on balance after the plan is developed.
Mike Bouthilet noted that he has marked 723 trees and another 100 limbs that could be
considered hazardous. He has received two quotes to drop trees: One for $20,000 and the
other for $8,000. Commissioner Steele asked if there is any liability if trees are not removed.
Administrator Zuleger noted that he would check to see if this would be covered under any
recreational immunity clause. Kunde noted that the City should be working with firewood
contractors to remove the trees when they are taken down. Kunde also stressed that Oak trees
should not be taken down to mitigate the spreading of oak wilt. Kunde then when into detail on
what trees should be cut. Chairman Weis thought it would be best to get some quotes from
firewood contractors based on Kunde’s overall harvesting plan.
M/S/P Steele/Frick: To drop all hazardous non-oak trees for a quote of $8,000 and to
obtain a quote for the cost of moving fallen trees off of the trail. (6-1, Ames opposed).
Commissioner Ames asked for the process to be clarified as he understood it to be first drop hazardous
trees and then remove them off the trail and allow folks to come in for firewood. This was the
understanding of the Commission. He stressed that the Commission should spend time thoughtfully
considering what kind of environment they wanted within Sunfish Lake Park.
Sanctuary Park
Mike Bouthilet and Jaime Colemer reported that the tether ball and bench have been ordered
and they have the hardware to build the gaga ball pit. The gaga ball pit may be a little difficult
due to topography. They have also ordered six trees to screen the Sletten property from the
playground. Bouthilet will be working with engineering and others to make sure the grade for
the trail meets ADA requirements. Commissioner Steele noted that if the gag ball did not work
at Sanctuary Park, then it may work at Demontreville Park due to the openness.
New Business - Tablyn Park
The Parks Commission engaged in a planning effort to determine the modifications to Tablyn
Park as part of the 2015 Park Commission Plan of Work. The Commission decided to eliminate
the baseball field in Tablyn Park and move it to Pebble Park. DPW Bouthilet stated that Lake
Elmo Baseball supported this decision – the baseball area would be converted into a large open
area suitable for soccer. The Commission the reviewed its own survey to determine the
improvements it wished to make to the park. Commission discussion initially centered on
Tablyn Park becoming a winter destination park; by clearing more of the sledding hill and
adding a skating rink to the lower north level by the road. Two pickle ball courts are to be
added as well as a new playground feature called the “Unity Dome”. It was determined that the
existing basketball court be removed and the parking lot extended (with the existing lot seal
coated). From a security standpoint, The Commission was opposed to a security gate but was
open to a security camera if supported by the Washington County Sheriff’s Department. The
Commission wished to add more lights near the sledding area and near the tennis courts, but
wished them to be of the dark sky nature. The current stairs will be replaced (w/ wooden
stairs) and the current trail system will be made ADA compliant. If possible, a trail near the
creek to the east side of the park should be created. Staff was tasked with put together a cost
estimating sheet and presenting the overall cost when available.
Chairman Weiss noted that for the next meeting he wanted to start to look at Reid Park as it
was next up in the modification queue. Administrator Zuleger stated that he would get a map
out to the Commission for them to use for design purposes that would include new additions by
developers as part of their Parkland Dedication.
Staff Reports & Commission Updates
Administrator Zuleger noted that the Parkland Dedication Financial Summary was in the
Commission’s packet. He also noted that the Stillwater School District has solved some of their
site issues and has executed the JPA with the City.
Commissioner Frick reported on a successful Sunfish Lake Spring Family Event. She stated that
the event was well attended and thanked the volunteers that participated.
Meeting adjourned at 9:17 PM
Respectfully Submitted,
Dean A. Zuleger
City Administrator