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Cul-de-sac and if the City Engineer had comments about that. Wensman stated that
they are not in favor as they are harder to maintain and snow plow.
Lundquist asked about a round about to slow traffic. Erickson stated that round abouts
are typically used at a 4 way intersection, but they could look into that.
Larson stated that there a number of options to use to slow traffic like treads and bump
outs.
Williams is suggesting an additional condition to read "to reach and file an agreement
with the City the required agreement with the Hecker family for a driveway from the
new road and the buffer encroachments".
Williams is also concerned about the configuration of the open space. There are a lot of
long thin outlots that he does not feel meets the spirit of the ordinance. Haggard had
the same concern and adding the ghost lots, will take some of the open feeling away.
Kreimer is ok with it as shown as these are larger lots which makes it harder to
accommodate the open space.
There is concern about the driveway for lot 40 from an access management standpoint.
The Heckers are being required to remove their driveway and this lot might be creating
the same sort of situation.
M/S/P: Williams/Haggard recommend approval of the Legends concept plan dated
1/25/16, based on the findings of fact as earlier discussed, and with the conditions as
listed in the staff report, with the additional one regarding the agreement with the
Heckers, Vote 6-1, motion carried. Dunn voted no as she would like to see the street
connection as a cul-de-sac.
M/S/P: Williams/Lundquist, move to amend the motion to include the trail shown in the
northwest corner on the concept plan dated 2/22/16 as part of the concept plan, Vote
7-0, motion carried unanimously.
Business item - Final Plat—Savona 4th
Wensman started his presentation regarding Savona 4th which is the final phase of the
Lennar development. This phase is for 78 single family lots over 20.4 acres. This phase
will complete 51h street from Keats to Boulder Ponds. This phase is LDR. The issues to
discuss are setbacks, lot fit, landscaping and agreements. The setback issue is that LDR
setback is principal building 10 feet and garage 5 feet. If there is living space behind the
garage, what do you do? Preliminary Plat report talks about averaging. How should we
move forward? Lot fit is that they lost some lots due to ponding and other issues and
they are adding back 2 lots in this phase. They seem to still meet the requirements and
staff feels it is acceptable. They would like to use the boulders from their development
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for landscaping. The City engineer wants to review to ensure there is no problem
getting to storm ponds. There are a number of agreements that need to be resolved.
Paul Tabone, Lennar, explained the phasing of the trail. He spoke about the lot fit and
the setback issue. Lennar would like to continue with the setbacks that they used in 11t,
2"d and 3rd addition in 4t' addition. He touched on adding 2 lots which conforms to the
Preliminary Plat. They are working on finalizing the landscape plan. Tabone stated that
they are meeting with staff next week to discuss the agreements. He explained some of
the issues they are trying to work through.
Kreimer is concerned about the street names. They are not in a good sequence. It was
in the Fire Chiefs comments. He would like the street names to be reviewed.
Williams would like 2 minor changes to the draft findings. On the 41h bullet point, he
would like to add after requested by the City Landscape Architect the words "letter
dated 2/10/16." On the last bullet after requested by the City Engineer the words
"letter dated 2/15/16."
M/S/P: Williams/Larson, move to recommend approval of the Final Plat for Savona 41h
addition with draft findings and conditions of approval included in staff report and as
amended, Vote 6-0, motion carried unanimously. (Haggard left meeting early).
M/S/F: Williams/Larson, move that the Planning Commission endorse using aerially
spaced boulders in erosion control structures pursuant to the landscape architect
approval, Vote 1-5, motion fails.
M/S/P: Kreimer/Dunn, move that the Planning Commission endorse using boulders in
erosion control structures pursuant to the landscape architect approval, Vote 6-0,
motion carried unanimously.
M/S/P: Williams/Kreimer, move that the Planning Commission endorse the 7.5 foot
average setback for Savona 4th addition and that in no case should living space be closer
than 7.5 feet and also that the code be changed to increase the lot width and change
the setbacks for future developments, Vote 6-0, motion carried unanimously.
Council Updates—February 16, 2016 Meeting
1. Commercial Wedding Ceremony Ordinance— Passed.
2. Commercial Weding IUP— Passed.
3. ZTA Senior Living—Passed.
4. Arbor Glen— Rezoning & Conditional Use Permit— Passed.
5. Appointment of Kristina Lundquist as 2"d Alternate.
Staff Updates
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