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Lake Elmo Planning Commission
MEETING NOTICE
Monday, February 14, 2005, 7:00 p.m.
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In Council Chambers
Lake Elmo City Hall
3800 Laverne Avenue N.
Lake Elmo, MN 55042
AGENDA
1. Pledge of Allegiance
2. Agenda
3. Minutes: January 24, 2005 (Will be handed out.)
4. Minor Subdivision and Section 520 Site Plan; Mike Lynsky
(Brookman/Raleigh —Land Owners); North Side of 39th Street North, West of
State Highway 5
5. Comprehensive Plan Modifications
6. City Council Update
7. Adjourn
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APPROVED: 2/28/05
City of Lake Elmo
Planning Commission
February 14, 2005
Chairman Helwig called to order the meeting of the Lake Elmo Planning Commission at 7:00
p.m. COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Deziel, Ptacek, Armstrong, Sessing, Sedro, Schneider,
and Roth. STAFF PRESENT: Planner Dillerud, Recording Secretary Schaffel, and
Administrator Rafferty.
Agenda
M/S/P Sedro/Armstrong, To accept the agenda as presented. VOTE: 8:0.
Minutes
M/S/P Ptacek/Sedro, To accept the minutes of January 24, 2005 as presented. VOTE: 8:0.
Minor Subdivision and Section 520 Site Plan — Lynskey
The Planner introduced the application by Mike Lynskey and Lake Elmo Business Park Co. to
subdivide a parcel within BROOKMAN 3an ADDITION. The applicant proposes to take a
portion of Lot 1, Block 3 and a portion of Lot 2, Block 3 to create a new parcel, and then to
construct a 10,000 square feet office building. The applicant wishes to share a driveway with the
remaining portion of Lot 2. This will result in fewer curb cuts on the city street.
The Planner said an unusual feature of this application is the absence of a wastewater treatment
plan. The applicant is considering a holding tank until sewer arrives in the Old Village. An
office facility is a relatively light user of water. The parking lot lighting plan appears to be
noncompliant with the code. If the poles are reduced in height, that could correct the problem.
The building surface materials appear not to meet architectural standards of the code.
The City Engineer's report arrived on Friday and was distributed to the commissioners.
Tim Freeman, Folz, Freeman, Erickson
Mr. Freeman explained that the vacation of the drainage and utility easements on the former lot
lines would be traded for easements on the outside lines of the newly created lot. There are only
two bathrooms in the building. The applicant desires to use a holding tank and pump it until
sewer becomes available. The cost to pump is expected to be less than the cost of a drainfield
that would soon be abandoned. He said that Brookman Pond drainage calculations were based
on general business development in the Old Village. The concern of the watershed district
should be alleviated now. The driveway is located for sight distances and safety.
The Planner said he did not address stormwater in his report. If impervious surfacing is kept at
or below standards, it should not present a stormwater concern.
Commissioner Deziel said there is no policy on mandatory sewer. The Planner agreed.
Mike Diem, Archnet
Mr. Diem explained that while the building will be faced with brick, those walls will not be load
bearing. However, the bricks are a full four -inches thick. Stone accents will be for planters.
Siding will be horizontal cedar lap. They would like to use asphalt timberline -style shingles on
the roof. They would be interested in pursuing a variance if necessary, if there are any changes
recommended to the appearance of the building.
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Chairman Helwig asked the applicant whether they wanted to continue. Mr. Freeman said they
did want to continue.
Commissioner Armstrong said he is concerned about the use of a holding tank. It is not good
environmental or procedural policy based on assumptions for sewer to approve a substandard
wastewater system. He said it is a great office building but there are procedural and code issues.
Commissioner Sedro said if the commission wants to allow the GB Code to allow asphalt
shingles, she would not object. As long as they are not permitted she will not vote to approve
them.
Commissioner Ptacek said he is torn on the holding tank issue; it is not good policy. As for the
shingles, the commission set the standard high for the look and feel they wanted. He said he
could bend but not until the commission is directed by Council to review it.
M/S/P Armstrong/Sedro To recommend denial of the minor subdivision and Section 520 Site
Plan based upon procedural and code compliance issues. VOTE: 6:2. Roth -Could move
forward subject to requirements to not allow a holding tank and asphalt shingles only with a
variance. Deziel-Thinks it could be worked out.
Comp Plan Modifications
The Planner said we have approximately six weeks to meet number eight of the Memorandum of
Understanding (MOU). Therefore, a meeting schedule has to be established. The Commission
must have a public hearing for the Planning Policy and Land Use Plan with City Council
approval by April 15, 2005, and distribution to our neighboring cities. That will be the heart of
the Comprehensive Plan modifications. After Council approval, then the map work can begin.
He said the Land Use Plan will deal principally with the area of the city south of 10th Street.
Nothing will be left to chance. That will not be completed by April 15.
A discussion regarding calendar meetings ensued. The Planner will prepare alternative draft
options of Policy and Land Use for the Commission to review. Adjustments can be made on
numbers north and south of 10th Street to meet the density requirements. Timing of growth can
be determined by the city. Sewered units expected in the region in the new Water Resources
Policy Plan are minimums.
The Planner said there are several ways to approach the staging. We can set a geographic line on
a map, and the line can keep moving as areas become sewered. We can create sewer sub -
districts and our Capital Improvement Program can be set up the same way. We can approve
plats based upon numbers of building permits to be issued per year but that is a more difficult
way to manage it.
The Planner said that whatever is planned south of 10th Street must be planned in consideration
of what will be done north of 10th Street. Policy statement alternatives will have to deal with
existing developments south of 10`h to prevent negative impact to those developments. The
planner said he will structure these items with options. The Policy Statement is basically intact,
and little will have to be changed.
The Administrator said one consideration that came up in a work session with the City Council is
recognizing there is a limited amount of time to accomplish this task. The Council is holding a
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workshop on February 15 to help formulate policy. They will turn it into a document for the
Planning Commission to consider as the new policy is drafted.
The Planner said that implementation will not be dealt with until the Comprehensive Plan is
submitted. Then zoning will be the issue.
The Planner said there is one component important to the Comprehensive Plan and that is fiscal
impact. Existing factors such as the miles of streets, acres of parks, population, service levels of
police, fire, etc., all increase the figures. Cities that did not plan for this type of fiscal impact are
in the top ten of municipal tax rates because they allowed more development than they could
afford. If we do not want existing Lake Elmo residents subsidize new Lake Elmo residents then
we should perform a fiscal analysis to prove the policy we establish.
Commissioner Deziel asked if our analysis projects an increased cost to existing residents, how
can that be mitigated.
The Planner said by reducing services and increasing revenue through tax base adjustments.
Commercial/Industrial has a higher tax rate than Residential. A city gains with C/I because
services rendered are fewer.
City Council Update
The Planner reported that Eagle Pointe Business Park and City and County Credit Union were
tabled for Council Committee where they will discuss square footage and asphalt shingles, they
will finish tomorrow night. He said the draft Trails Master Plan Open House is set for February
16, 2005. The Trails Plan will be applicable to our new Comprehensive Plan.
The Administrator said that a Planning and Parks Commission Appointment Process Ordinance
has been created by recommendation of Council Committee. He said the major change is that
commission appointments will follow the individual. Two three year terms are allowed, and an
additional term will be considered in conjunction with the applicant pool. Three sixty day
appointments are still on hold. The Council will address the appointments process after the
ordinance is passed. The process for appointments will be establishing a time and date for
interviews conducted by the City Council.
Chairman Helwig said we need those three commissioners as soon as possible. He urged that it
be considered a top priority.
The Planner announced the resignation of Commissioner Pelletier.
Commissioner Sedro said her understanding of state statutes is that planning commissioners are
not to be political appointments. She asked for the criteria. The Council used to take applicants
in the order they applied.
The Administrator said the plan now is to interview all applicants. Policy has changed from time
to time. With the new ordinance, level of experience will be a consideration. If we lose more
than 50% of experience in a given year, the City Council can adjust the terms. There are no term
limits, just a consideration after two terms, allowing more community involvement.
Mayor Johnston said the intention was no term limits. After two terms, a commissioner will just
pool with the rest of the candidates. The first two terms are essentially automatic.
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Commissioner Armstrong said this is not a radical departure from the past. Commissioners serve
at the pleasure of the Council.
Commissioner Deziel said he would hope they will keep current commissioners at this crucial
time.
Commissioner Ptacek asked if the three commissioners whose appointments are pending are to
be interviewed again.
The Administrator said that one will be appointed to his three-year term, two will be put back in
the pool with other applicants because they have served longer than six years.
Chairman Helwig asked the Planner what happened to the commission's request for a Public
Hearing to add Home Occupations in the Rural Residential Zoning District for a public hearing
to add it as a use into Rural Residential.
The Planner said he will pick it up again; it was overlooked.
Adjourn 8:42 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kimberly Schaffel
Recording Secretary
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