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City of Lake Elmo
Planning Commission Meeting
Minutes of March 9, 2020
Commissioner Cadenhead called to order the meeting of the Lake Elmo Planning
Commission at 7:00 p.m.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Cadenhead, Graen, Holtz, Risner and Weeks
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Steil
STAFF PRESENT: Planning Director Roberts
Approve Agenda:
M/S/P: Weeks/Risner move to approve the amended agenda, Vote: 6-0, motion carried
unanimously.
Public Hearings
Final Plat and Easement Vacation – Legacy at North Star Third Addition
Roberts presented that the property owner is requesting a final plat for the third phase
of a 266 single family residential development known as Legacy at North Star. The City
approved the PUD Concept Plan on June 6, 2017 and approved the Preliminary Plat and
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PUD Plans on February 20, 2018. On August 8, 2018, the City Council approved the 1
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addition of the Development and they approved the 2 addition on April 16, 2019.
The third phase will consist of 66 single family lots. Staff recommends that the Planning
Commission recommend approval of the Legacy at North Star Third Addition Final Plat
and PUD Plans.
M/S/P: Graen/Holtz move to approve the Legacy at North Star Third Addition Final Plat
and PUD Plans with recommended findings and conditions of approval, Vote: 6-0,
motion carried unanimously.
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission recommend approval of the proposed
vacation of the drainage and utility easements on Outlot B of Legacy at North Star First
Addition as shown on the easement vacation Exhibit dated January 8, 2020.
M/S/P: Weeks/Holtz move to approve the request for the vacation of the drainage and
utility easements on Outlot B of Legacy North Star First Addition for the purposes of
platting third addition. Vote: 6-0, motion carried unanimously.
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New Business
Land Use and Concept Plan Review – City-owned 180 acres
Roberts presented the Land Use and 3 Concept Plans that the City had prepared for the
City-owned 180 acres near County Road 14 and Ideal Avenue. The City Council reviewed
the three concept plans on February 11, 2020. They received feedback that the area
south of County 14 should be planned for business and warehouse uses and the area
north of County 14 should have a variety of land uses. Concept A was selected by the
City Council as the best choice of the 3 concepts.
Mueller mentioned that a park created on the edge of Lake Elmo will be primarily used
by residents of Oakdale, especially considering the new development that was just
approved for high density housing across Ideal from the proposed park. He also asked if
there is a way to include the Lake Elmo Farmers Market.
Roberts explained that the reason the ball fields are specifically on this site is in
replacement for the ball fields lost in the Royal Golf development. Roberts also
explained that sanitary sewer would need to be available in order for any of the
developments shown.
Holtz asked if there has been any discussion around the ability to fill the 78-80 acres of
commercial and industrial uses. What other opportunities are there in the metro area
for this size of City driven development?
It was noted that St. Paul has the Hillcrest Golf course and the Ford Plant as
redevelopment sites and Cottage Grove is looking to develop near Walmart and
incorporate a Community Center.
Graen asked how this fits into the 2040 Comprehensive Plan. Roberts explained that
any of the concepts plans would need an amendment to the Comprehensive Plan since
it is currently designated rural.
Weeks explained that Royal Golf is a good example of changing the Comprehensive Plan
and adding utilities. The former Tartan Park property was owned by 3M and came up
for sale. The City allowed the changes to the Comprehensive Plan when a developer
came forward to purchase the land to convert it into the Royal Golf development.
Cadenhead opened the public hearing at 7:38 pm
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Scott Smith, realtor, 4057 35 Street, asked them to look at the concept more due to
size and elevation of the development and the impact on neighbors. He mentioned that
the business warehouse market is over saturated or will be in the near future with all
the projects that are coming to the area.
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Dan Van Ampting, 8367 39 St., stated that the commercial industrial park is oddly
placed, feels more residential uses and a Community Center would be better.
Penny Dempko, 3929 Innsdale Ave., does not believe industrial north of County 14 fits
with the park and character of existing area. She also discussed the settlement money,
water and street project proposed by the City, and run off concerns in area.
Lynn Lambert, 3889 Innsdale Ave, suggested the plan has too much industrial and there
is a need for pollinators and maintaining eco systems.
Laney Balen, 3563 Iris Ave, stated that commercial and industrial will add to the lights
and traffic and reduce safety in the area.
Laura Sempf, 3850 Ironwood Avenue, stated that he is concerned about traffic from the
development if a through street is put it, increasing traffic and reducing safety for
children in a neighborhood with no sidewalks.
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Donna Wulfing, 8196 38 Street, stated that she is not thrilled with the ballfields and
the noise and lights that will come from them until 10 pm at night. Roberts mentioned
that one of the Parks Commissioners suggested shifting the ball fields south away from
the homes.
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Debbie Anderson, 8229 38 Street, expressed noise concerns from the development.
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Geraldine Breheim, 8415 38 Street, wants to know if there will be funds available or if
there can be water run to the area with this project. Roberts explained if a
development of this sort were to occur it would be with City water and sewer.
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Brad Heil, 4068 35 Street, stated that he would like to see no warehouse and no street
connection to the neighborhood to the east.
Lori Caspers, 3829 Ironwood Trail, noted concerns about commercial spaces and about
drainage issues.
John Schwingler, 3923 Ironwood Trail, is concerned about the height of warehouses and
the asthetics.
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Dan Gerding, 3693 37 Street, the Wildflower Shores association president, expressed
concerns about a possible road connection to the existing neighborhood. He said he
would prefer a pedestrian path instead of a road connection and that the look and feel
of the neighborhood would change with this type of development.
Mike Karcher, 3655 Iris Ave, suggested moving the location of ponding to be near the
existing pond and provide separation from the existing homes.
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Roberts noted that the City had received two e-mails from nearby residents that echoed
many of the same concerns mentioned during the meeting this evening.
Cadenhead closed the public hearing at 8:14 pm.
Holtz explained that $25 million of 3M settlement money is available to get safe public
water to areas in need in an expedited process due to pollution.
M/S/P: Graen/Holtz made a motion to recommend to complete an economic survey on
the feasibility and necessity for commercial or industrial parks within the 180 acres of
3M settlement area in order to know the market saturation and determine other
potential uses for the area. Vote: 5-1, motion carried.
Staff and Commission Updates
Roberts reported that at the February 4, 2020 City Council meeting, Applewood Pointe
of Lake Elmo has been tabled until April, first by council then by developer. Both sides
want to ensure all five council members are present at the meeting when it is
considered by the Council.
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Roberts also reported that at the March 4, 2020 City Council meeting, the Northport 3
Addition Preliminary Plat and the Ordinance Amendment regarding 20,000 square foot
requirement for septic systems were approved.
Roberts mentioned that the City is hiring a Building Official.
Roberts reminded the Commission of the upcoming PC Meetings on March 23, 2020 and
April 13, 2020.
Roberts also mentioned that the Springs development has started the tree cutting and
grading.
Meeting adjourned at 9:10 pm
Respectfully submitted,
Tanya Nuss
Permit Technician
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