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City of Lake Elmo
Planning Commission Meeting
Minutes of Monday July 13, 2020
Commissioner Holtz called to order the meeting of the Lake Elmo Planning Commission at
7:00 p.m.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Risner, Graen, Holtz, Mueller and Steil
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Cadenhead, Weeks
STAFF PRESENT: Planning Director Roberts, City Planner Prchal
Approve Agenda:
M/S/P: Graen/Mueller moved to approve the agenda, Vote: 5-0, motion carried
unanimously.
Approval of Minutes:
M/S/P: Steil/Graen moved to approve the Planning Commission minutes of April 13, 2020,
May 11, 2020, May 27, 2020 and June 8, 2020. Vote: 5-0, motion carried.
Public Hearings
a. Zoning Code Text Amendment – Local Transit and School Bus Terminals in BP Zoning
District
Note: Staff removed this item from consideration for the Planning Commission meeting
and there was no public hearing.
b. Zoning Code Text Amendment – Fence Ordinance Update
Planner Prchal presented the staff report outlining several proposed changes to the City’s Fence
Ordinance.
He noted that Planning Staff has noticed there are issues and sometimes difficulties with the
existing standard of a 3.5 ft. fence height maximum for corner side yards and front yards. It
has been stated that contractors or installers do not have or have not installed a 3.5 foot-tall
fence. It seems to be that 3.5 feet for a fence height is a unique figure that is not readily
available or used today. This issue can be further enhanced when HOA’s require a specific
style of fencing. To remedy this situation, staff is proposing to change the maximum fence
height for these areas from 3. 5 feet (42 inches) to 4 feet (48 inches). The proposed code
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change would still have the requirement that the fence be at least 50 percent open to allow air
movement and visibility through the fence. Prchal presented examples of fence ordinances
from Cottage Grove, Hugo, Woodbury, Forest Lake and Stillwater. All these ordinances
allow for six-foot-tall fences in the back or rear yards of residences and most allow up to four
foot-tall fences (with some restrictions) on corner side yards of residences.
Prchal also explained that there is a provision in the existing City fence ordinance that has
language about the location of fences and getting permission from the adjacent property
owners. He noted that the code now states that “Fences may be installed on any portion of a
lot subject to the height restrictions of §154.205.E and may be installed along or within one
foot of property lines provided the adjacent property agrees, in writing, that such fence may
be erected on or within one foot of (12 inches) of the boundary lines of the respective
properties. Any portion of the fence and all footing material shall not encroach on the
neighboring property.”
Prchal explained that his research found that this requirement is unique to Lake Elmo and can
sometimes cause difficulties for property owners wanting to install fences when adjacent
property owners are not available to grant permission or willing to grant permission for the
new fence. The Commission discussed the pros and cons of this standard and tried to
determine the value of keeping this language in the fence code. One commissioner noted that
it did require neighbors to talk to each other which is a good thing but the consensus of the
Commission was that requiring written permission from the adjacent property owners to
install a fence is an unnecessary burden and regulation that the City should remove from the
Code.
Holtz opened the public hearing at 7:23 pm. There were no public comments so he closed the
public hearing at 7:24 pm.
The Commission then further discussed the proposed changes to the fence ordinance.
Steil moved, Risner seconded to recommend to the City Council approval of the suggested
amendments to the City Code as it pertains to fences. The proposed changes include the
following:
E. Fence Height and Design
1. Fences within Front and Side (Corner) Yards. Any fence within a front or side (corner) yard
setback or any required setback form a public right-of-way may not exceed forty-two (42) forty-
eight (48) inches (4 ft.) in height and must be at least 50% open to air and light. The fence must
also be setback 20 ft. extending from the front corner lot pin or ROW.
F. Temporary Fences
1. Height and Performance. Temporary fences shall comply with the fence height standards of
subsection (E). Temporary fences shall be at least 40% open to air and light. If unable to be at
least 40% open to air and light, temporary fences shall not exceed forty-two inches (42”) forty
eight (48) inches (4 ft.) in height.
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Removal of the Code requirement in Section 154.205D(5)(a) that for fences that will be within
one foot of the property line the property owner get written permission from the adjacent property
owners before installing the fence.
Vote: 5-0, motion carried unanimously.
c. City Code Text Amendments – PUD, OP-PUD and Subdivision Ordinances (Concept
Plan Reviews)
Director Roberts presented the staff report explaining the proposed changes to the OP PUD,
PUD and Subdivision Ordinances. He explained that staff had been directed to prepare
amendments to the City’s PUD ordinance (Article XIX) and the City’s Open Space PUD (OP-
PUD) ordinance (Article XVII). The requested changes are to remove the requirement for a
concept plan review for PUD’s and the sketch plan review for Open Space PUD’s. He also
noted that there are some aspects of the PUD and subdivision ordinances the City could
amend to clarify processes and to meet current City standards. As such, staff has included
several other minor changes to the OP PUD, PUD and Subdivision Ordinances as part of this
review.
Roberts explained that the zoning and subdivision regulations (including PUD ordinances)
allow cities to ensure that a new development or redevelopment meets the standards of the
city for a safe, functional and enjoyable community. Importantly, PUD regulations can help
the City preserve and enhance important natural resources and environmental features by
allowing flexibility in the design standards for a specific site through careful and sensitive
placement of buildings and facilities.
Director Roberts noted that the sketch plan or concept plan review gives an applicant a chance
to get feedback (positive and negative) from City staff and policy makers about a proposal
before spending significant time and money on the detailed plans necessary for a preliminary
PUD and plat. Sketch plan and concept plan review provides the City and an applicant a
chance to identify issues and provides the applicant guidance and a “road map” for moving a
project forward in Lake Elmo. This is the requirement now in place for new PUD’s or OP
PUD’s in Lake Elmo. To use or not use the sketch plan (or concept plan) review process is a
policy decision for the City.
Roberts explained that if the City did want to drop the requirement for a concept plan review
or a sketch plan review of PUD’s by the Planning Commission and City Council, then at a
minimum, the City should require an applicant or developer to submit to the City a concept
plan or sketch plan for any new PUD for review and comment by City staff. This process also
should include a requirement that an applicant for a OP PUD or a PUD meet with City staff
after the applicant has submitted the proposed concept plan or sketch plan (in about 30 days)
to get feedback and comments about the proposed PUD before submitting a preliminary
PUD/plat application. Staff has included such language in the proposed OP PUD, PUD and
Subdivision Ordinance amendments.
Director Roberts noted that the Planning Commission has three options for the proposed
ordinance amendments. They could recommend approval of the proposed changes to the OP
PUD, PUD and subdivision ordinances, they could recommend approval of the proposed
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changes to the ordinances with changes to the proposed language or they could recommend
denial of the proposed changes to the OP PUD, PUD and subdivision ordinances.
Director Roberts then answered questions from the Commission about the proposed code
changes.
Holtz opened the public hearing at 8:01 pm. There were no public comments so he closed the
public hearing at 8:02 pm.
The Commission discussed the proposed ordinance amendments and changes that would be
necessary to remove the Concept Plan and Sketch Plan reviews from the OP PUD, PUD and
Subdivision review processes. Commissioner Steil expressed support for the proposed code
changes and Commissioner Graen stated that he was against the proposed code changes
because he likes having the public involvement with concept plan and sketch plan reviews of
PUDs.
M/S/P: Steil/Holtz moved to recommend approval of the Open Space PUD, PUD and
subdivision ordinance amendments as proposed by City staff.” Vote: 4-1 (Graen no),
motion carried.
New Business
None
Staff and Commission Updates
Roberts reported that at the June 16, 2020 City Council meeting, the Council considered the Boulder
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Ponds 5 Addition – Final Plat and Final PUD Plan. It had been proposed for 3 lots but the City
Council approved for only 2 lots.
Roberts reported that at July, 07, 2020 City Council Meeting, the Council considered the proposed
Farm School Zoning Text Amendment for a second time. The Council approved the Ordinance with
changes to the minimum lot size (9 acre minimum) and they added a requirement that the schools be at
least one-half mile apart. The Council also reviewed and discussed the Bruggeman OP-PUD Concept
Plan for the property located at 2500 Manning Avenue. The Council generally appeared to support the
proposed Concept Plan but directed staff to bring it back to the next Council meeting with revised
conditions of approval.
Roberts reminded the Commission of the upcoming PC Meetings on July 27, 2020 and on August 10,
2020.
Meeting adjourned at 8:19 pm.
Respectfully submitted,
Ken Roberts – Lake Elmo Planning Director
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