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NOTICE OF MEETING
The City of Lake Elmo
Parks Commission will conduct its regular meeting on
Wednesday, February 16, 2011, at 7:00 p.m.
AGENDA
1. Agenda
2. Minutes, December 20, 2010
Minutes, January 19, 2011
3. Welcome to new member Steve DeLapp
4. Update on Stillwater Area School District proposal for ECFC in Lake Elmo
5. Update and review MPCA grading and landscape plans for Landfill —"Sunfish Lake Park
West" and discussion related to potential future recreational uses
6. Update on planning and funding of Village / Stillwater High School base trail
7. Ammendment of CIP to include lighting improvements and volleyball court improvements
at Lions Park
8. Development of 2011 Park Commission Work Plan
9. Adjourn
The public is invited to attend.
DRAFT
Lake Elmo Park Commission
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
December 20, 2010
Chairman Ames called the meeting to order at 7:06 p.m.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT:
Members Present: Mike Zeno, Marty Dobbs, John Ames, David Steele, Judith
Blackford, Rolf Larson, Pam Hartley
STAFF PRESENT: Project Assistant Kriegler
1. Agenda
Agenda was approved as amended (M/S, Steele / Larson, 7-0) Item number 5.
"Discussion on park safety and efforts to promote appropriate park use" was moved up
to item number 3 to accommodate W.C. deputy's schedule. Item 4A, 2010 Capital
Improvement Plan review was added as a compliment to Item 4, "Update on 2011-2016
Park Capital Improvement Plan". Item 7, a discussion of"Park Commission board
member election" was added.
2. Minutes
November 15, 2010 Approved as amended (M/S Hartley/Steele) 7-0. Last paragraph
of"Review and discussion on the Park CIP" add "possible" to "shifting of possible dog
park from Lake Jane Hills to Sunfish Lake Park West.
3. Discussion on park safety and efforts to promote appropriate park use
Washington County Sheriff's deputy Loehr addressed the Parks Commission and
provided some insights for increasing public safety in Lake Elmo parks. He indicated
that the two most pressing issues were related to car break-ins and use of the park after
hours. He suggested that both of these matters be addressed with prominent signage at
the entrance of the park. He suggested a highly visible warning not to leave any
valuables in the car. He also suggested that "high visibility" be a dominant goal in the
planning and development of parks and facilities. Officer Loehr's presentation was cut
short due to his need to respond to an emergency call. Action items that the
Commission addressed are:
1. Evaluate parks for public safety during all park visits.
2. Conduct a safety audit of parks in the spring, with Sunfish Lake Park, Pebble Park
and Kleis Parks being in the greatest need of such an audit.
4. Park Commission meeting schedule for the year 2011
The Commission designated Wednesday, January 19 and Wednesday, February 16 as
the alternative meeting dates for the two regular 3rd Monday meeting dates that are in
conflict with national holidays.
A motion was passed and approved (M/S, Dobbs/Blackford, 7-0) adopting the following
2011 Park Commission meeting schedule:
Wednesday, January 19
Wednesday, February 16
Monday, March 21
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Monday, April 18
Monday, May 16
Monday, June 20
Monday, July 18
Monday, August 15
Monday, September 19
Monday, October 17
Monday, November 21
Monday, December 19
5. Update on 2011-2016 Park Capital Improvement Plan
It was requested that the commission consider possible Lions Park light and volleyball
improvements at the January meeting in addition to receiving an update on the
Demontreville Trail reconstruction project and the Village/ SAHS base trail project.
5A. 2011 Discussion of 2010 Capital Improvement Plan review
The Commission discussed the Park Capital Improvement Plan planning process and
discussed opportunities for improvement. Given the need for detailed information
related to the maintenance and general condition of existing conditions and facilities, it
was requested that Public Works / Parks Superintendent Mike Bouthilet attend park
commission meetings at least two times per year—once in early summer to report on
progress on ongoing park improvement projects, and once in the fall in November to
participate in the CIP process. It was also requested that an overview of the years
planned improvement projects be presented in October of each year in preparation for
CIP discussions in November.
6. Sign program planning for recently completed Demontreville and Sunfish Lake
Park
The Parks Commission discussed the need /opportunity to provide some regulatory
signage at Sunfish Lake Park and Demontreville Wildlife Area given the availability of
recently constructed information kiosks in these locations. Proposed sign layouts were
reviewed and comments made. For the SFLP "rules" sign it was suggested that
"motorized vehicles be allowed only on the entry road and parking area". A similar sign
was discussed for DWA, without the need to address ski trail related matters. In addition
to the "rules" signs members expressed an interest in posting that S.F.L.P. was under
Conservation Easement with the Land Trust.
7. Park Commission board member election
The history of procedures for electing officers was discussed. The merits of changing
the structure to include the vice-chair automatically being designated as chair person
the following year was discussed. No changes were made.
Adjourned 8:45 pm
Respectfully submitted,
Carol Kriegler,
Project Assistant
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DRAFT
Lake Elmo Park Commission
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
January 19, 2011
Chairman Ames called the meeting to order at 7:04 p.m.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT:
Members Present: Marty Dobbs, John Ames, Judith Blackford, Rolf Larson, Pam
Hartley
STAFF PRESENT: Project Assistant Kriegler
1. Agenda
Agenda was approved as amended (M/S, Larson/Dobbs 5-0) Item number 2 was
removed as December minutes were not available and "Election of Officers" was added.
3. Election of Officers
Pam Hartley and Rolf Larson were nominated to serve as chair person with both
indicating that they would be willing to serve as "vice chair" in the event they were not
elected chair. It was commented that both individuals were very competent and
accomplished. With an anonymous vote, Pam was elected Chair, Rolf as Vice-chair and
Marty as Secretary. Pam served as chair for the remainder of the meeting.
4. Review and discussion of MPCA grading and landscape plans for Lanfill —
"Sunfish Lake Park West" and potential future recreational uses.
Two sets of MPCA proposed Iandrill grading plans were presented and reviewed. The
grading plans presented were those revised by the MPCA in response to Park
Commission and staff comments expressed at a September 2010 meeting with
representatives of the MPCA. Comments generated were as follows:
PARKING/ ENTRY AREA
Park Commissioners recognized the importance of avoiding conflict with Fire Department access.
They do, however, want to utilize any existing parking areas so long as doing so does not impair
the Fire Department. A conversation with the Chief to hear his concerns and limitations is
encouraged.
The area northwest of the pit and directly east of the Fire Station were both considered for
potential parking areas, with the northwest area being preferred. In any case, it will be important
that a direct and defined path from the parking area to the "natural area"of the park be provided.
In addition, a direct and defined path from the pit to the "natural area" is also desired.
LANDSCAPING
The latest version of the grading plan does not include landscaping. While some members of the
Commission previously expressed that they would prefer that the road frontage in the area of the
turn-back area, not be screened with plantings, they do support extensive screening in all other
areas. Landscaping in the remaining areas should be restored. They would prefer that
landscaping done in frontage of the turn-back area be relatively low so that there is good visibility
into the pit and so that the area appears inviting for recreational use.
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In addition, it is suggested the landscape screening along Jamaca "turn the corner" and continue
along the north side of landfill, providing effective screening for those viewing the site from the
north and northwest, including park users.
The extensive planning of natives is desired in the adjacent areas to the west and north of the pit
area. The landscaping should be done in such a way that does not impair visibility into the site. It
also might be desirable to remove fencing along the north side of the site or move it to the south,
as currently the entry to the natural area of the park is very"tunnel-like" and unnatural.
GRADING
Members expressed that they were pleased with the "softening" of the grade on the west-side of
the turn-back area, but requested that a comparable "softening" be carried through on the
northwest diagonal slope.
LANDFILL GRADE
Review and discussion of the proposed grading plans centered on the area to be turned back to
the City. The Commission did recognize the two different landfill profiles and was interested in
the basis for each. For the most part, the Commissioners expressed that the lower the profile,
the better.
5. Trail Guide Plan review and update
Carol Kriegler provided a rebrief of the Demontreville Trail engineering report made to
the Parks Commission in August of'09 including a copy of the PowerPoint presentation
made at that time. In addition she reported that the current plan includes a 24'-wide
roadway with two 11'-wide lanes an 1' width of gravel shoulder- resulting in 2' on one-
side of the road.
Some very preliminary budgets were also reported for the Village to High School base
trail. The budget is based on the unit pricing in the City's Trail Guide Plan. Budget for
the 10,000 lineal feet of trail is $425,000 (based on unit pricing of$225,000 per miles
and might not adequately reflect land acquisition costs). It was also reported that staff
and engineering are working on determining the best way to lay out the course.
The Commission expressed the interest in completing this entire base trail in one phase
as it is not desirable to construct the base trail in segments as they will not serve any
useful purpose in segments. The Commission also reiterated their desire /willingness to
depart from the Village / S.A.H.S. base trail configuration as outlined in the Trail Guide
Plan in an effort to align the trail more closely to Hwy 5 where the trail would be more
visible, more direct and more likely to be utilized.
6. Sign program planning for recently completed Demontreville and Sunfish Lake
Park
The Parks Commission discussed the need /opportunity to provide some regulatory
signage at Sunfish Lake Park and Demontreville Wildlife Area given the availability of
recently constructed information kiosks in these locations. Sign layout revisions based
on comments received from the December meeting were presented and approved for
production.
Motion: Support of moving forward with regulatory signage for S.F.L.P. and
Demontreville Wildlife Area (M/S, Dobbs/Ames, 5-0)
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Adjourned 9:10 pm
Respectfully submitted,
Carol Kriegler,
Project Assistant
Parks Commission
Date: 2/16/11
Item: 3
ITEM: Welcome to new Park Commission member Steve DeLapp
SUBMITTED BY: Carol Kriegler, Project Assistant
BACKGROUND INFORMATION:
Steve DeLapp was appointed to the Park Commission at the January 25 City Council meeting. In
addition, the Park Commission was changed from an 11 to 9 member commission. An overview
of commission member terms and designations will be available. Following introductions, it is
requested that we provide a brief overview of current projects and issues.
Parks Commission
Date: 2/16/11
Item: 4
ITEM: Update on Stillwater Area School District Proposal for ECFC in Lake Elmo
SUBMITTED BY: Carol Kriegler, Project Assistant
BACKGROUND INFORMATION:
The City Council has been in conversation with the Stillwater Area School District regarding a
proposal to locate a Early Childhood Family Center in Lake Elmo. The Council will be discussing
the item further at a Council Workshop scheduled for 4:30 Tuesday, February 15. There is also
an informational Open House with an opportunity for public input scheduled for 5:30 to 6:30
Wednesday, February 16 and a special Council meeting scheduled for 4:30 Thursday, February
17.
Conversations regarding a Lake Elmo based ECFC have included the possible inclusion of a
park, trails, and /or art center. A brief overview of the proposal will be made available to the Park
Commission.
Parks Commission
Date: 2/16/11
Item: 5
ITEM: Update and review of MPCA grading and landscape plans for Landfill—
"Sunfish Lake Park West" and discussion related to potential future recreation uses
SUBMITTED BY: Carol Kriegler, Project Assistant
BACKGROUND INFORMATION:
The Commission conducted a review of two sets of MPCA's proposed landfill grading plans at
their January 19 Park Commission meeting. The grading plans that were reviewed were plans
that had been revised by the MPCA in response to Park Commission and staff comments
expressed at a September 2010 meeting. Comments generated at the January 19 were promptly
outlined and forwarded to the Assistant Engineer who in turn has been in conversation with the
MPCA.
An update regarding the latest MPCA landfill grading and landscaping plans will be made
available.
Landfill Grading Plan Review
Park Commission Comments 1-19-2011
PARKING / ENTRY AREA
Park Commissioners recognized the importance of avoiding conflict with Fire Department access.
They do, however, want to utilize any existing parking areas so long as doing so does not impair
the Fire Department. A conversation with the Chief to hear his concerns and limitations is
encouraged.
The area northwest of the pit and directly east of the Fire Station were both considered for
potential parking areas, with the northwest area being preferred. In any case, it will be important
that a direct and defined path from the parking area to the "natural area"of the park be provided.
In addition, a direct and defined path from the pit to the "natural area" is also desired.
LANDSCAPING
The latest version of the grading plan does not include landscaping. While some members of the
Commission previously expressed that they would prefer that the road frontage in the area of the
turn-back area, not be screened with plantings, they do support extensive screening in all other
areas. Landscaping in the remaining areas should be restored. They would prefer that
landscaping done in frontage of the turn-back area be relatively low so that there is good visibility
into the pit and so that the area appears inviting for recreational use.
In addition, it is suggested the landscape screening along Jamaca "turn the corner" and continue
along the north side of landfill, providing effective screening for those viewing the site from the
north and northwest, including park users.
The extensive planning of natives is desired in the adjacent areas to the west and north of the pit
area. The landscaping should be done in such a way that does not impair visibility into the site. It
also might be desirable to remove fencing along the north side of the site or move it to the south,
as currently the entry to the natural area of the park is very"tunnel-like" and unnatural.
GRADING
Members expressed that they were pleased with the"softening" of the grade on the west-side of
the turn-back area, but requested that a comparable "softening" be carried through on the
northwest diagonal slope.
LANDFILL GRADE
Review and discussion of the proposed grading plans centered on the area to be turned back to
the City. The Commission did recognize the two different landfill profiles and was interested in
the basis for each. For the most part, the Commissioners expressed that the lower the profile,
the better.
Parks Commission
Date: 2/16/11
Item: 6
ITEM: Update on planning and funding of Village/Stillwater High School base trail
SUBMITTED BY: Carol Kriegler, Project Assistant
BACKGROUND INFORMATION:
The Park Commission's recent annual work plans have identified trail development as a very high
priority. To date, the Commission has prioritized base trails as defined by the City's Trail Guide
Plan and identified the Village/Stillwater High School base trail as their highest priority.
An overview of the Village/ HS base trail as defined in the Trail Guide Plan will be made available
along with an outline of potential ROW/ land acquisition issues to be addressed should the base
trail take on a more visible and direct configuration adjacent to Hwy 5. City Staff has completed
the task of determining the property owners along this stretch of Hwy. 5.
In addition, staff will report on potential grant funding opportunities for development of this
particular base trail. It is also suggested that the Commission review the fund balance in the Park
Dedication Fund, likely rates of growth of the fund, as well as the financial resources that will be
required for future park and trail improvements as outlined in the City's Comprehensive Park Plan
and Trail Guide Plan.
Parks Commission
Date: 2/16/11
Item: 7
ITEM: Discussion amending the Park CIP to include lighting improvements and possible
volleyball court improvements at Lions Park
SUBMITTED BY: Carol Kriegler, Project Assistant
BACKGROUND INFORMATION:
As a part of the CIP planning process, there was considerable discussion about the possible
need for replacement lights at Lions Park. There was little information and detail for the
Commission to consider regarding the current status of lighting at the park and few details related
to age, condition, and the record of repair of the existing lights.
Additionally, Commission member Zeno expressed that it might be appropriate to consider
lighting of the volleyball court at the time of any future lighting improvement project at the park. At
the December meeting, the Parks Commission requested that they take up consideration lighting
improvements and other repairs/improvements to the volleyball court. A report will be made
available regarding the general condition of the volleyball court and the potential for general
improvements. In addition to considering the potential costs of lighting of the volleyball court, it is
suggested that commission also consider the broader implications of lighting the court in regards
to promoting group use of the park during the overnight.
Carol Kriegler will provide an overview of the overall condition of the ballfield lights and volleyball
court so that the Commission is prepared to consider amending the Park CIP to include lighting
improvements at the park as well as other repairs/improvements to the volleyball court.
Parks Commission
Date: 2-16-11
Item: 8
ITEM: Review of 2010 work plan/development of 2011 work plan
SUBMITTED BY: Carol Kriegler, Project Assistant
The Commission is being asked to review the 2010 work plan and develop a 2011 work plan.
2010 Park Commission Work Plan
Work Item Priority (1 as highest, 4 as lowest)
Sunfish Lake Park Area 2 concept plan, 1
implementation plan, and implementation
Trail Plan Implementation 1
• Trail segment inventory
• Segment prioritization
• Identify funding sources
• Resolve R.O.W. issues
Natural resource management—Pebble 1
park woodland restoration, Sunfish Lake
Park natural resource management plan
Spring and Fall Park Visits 2
Implement City park sign program
• Entrance sign 1
• Informational signs 2
Maintain an awareness of/and review 2
infrastructure improvements /P.W.
projects for potential park impacts.
Develop Heights Park concept plan 2
• Implement
Picnic shelter construction 2
Demontreville
Review policy on the use of city athletic 4
fields and develop/update a park amenity
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2011 —2014 Parks CIP 4