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NOTICE OF MEETING
City of Lake Elmo Parks Commission
3800 Laverne Avenue North
September 19, 2022 6:30 PM
AGENDA
1. Call to Order
2. Pledge of Allegiance
3. Approve Agenda
4. Approve Minutes
a) July 19, 2022
5. Public Comments
6. Kleis Park Site Visit Discussion
7. Pebble Park Site Visit Discussion
8. Ivywood Park Parking
9. Communications
Adjourn
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City of Lake Elmo Parks Commission Minutes
July 18, 2022
Members Present: Commissioners Hoelscher, Kastler, Rivera, Hodges, and Barrett Staff Present: Assistant Public Works Director Swanepoel and City Planner Hetzel The meeting was called to order by Hoelscher at 6:30 PM. Approval of Agenda Discussion on park review. Barrett motioned to approve the agenda as presented, Hoelscher provided a second; unanimously approved 5-0.
Approval of Minutes Hodges motioned to approve the June 20th, 2022 Parks Commission Minutes as presented, Barrett provided a second; unanimously approved 5-0. Public Comments None Tablyn Park Site Visit City Planner Hetzel provided public comments from the survey. Discussion held regarding
resident comment, amenity conditions, and CIP.
Demontreville Park Site Visit Aimmie Hauer, walking distance from Lake Demontreville, provided comments regarding potential improvements. Discussion was held regarding amenity conditions.
Schiltgen East – Preliminary Plat/PUD City Planner Hetzel presented the preliminary plat plan. Representative Steve Schwanke provided additional information regarding the secondary access and storm water flow plan. Discussion held regarding parking and the secondary access location.
Kastler motioned to recommend against constructing a new road because of the impact to the park, Barrett provided a second; discussion. Motion passed unanimously 5-0. Schiltgen Farmstead – Preliminary Plat/PUD City Planner Hetzel presented the plat and park dedication requirements. Discussion held regarding the proposed dedicated land. Craig Allen with GWSA Land Development responded to commission questions. Hoelscher motioned to recommend taking land in lieu of cash, be considered for public access, be considered for a neighborhood/community park, and potentially linked with Sunfish Lake Park; Rivera provided a second. Discussion held. Kastler friendly amended the motion to include that it shall be linked to our trail system, Hoelscher seconded the amendment; motions passed unanimously 5-0. Communications
a) Resignation of Commissioner Isak Nightingale.
b) Kleis and Pebble will be discussed at the next meeting.
c) City continue to reach out with communications through social media.
d) Discuss Tana Ridge Park and Hamlet.
Hoelscher adjourned the meeting at 8:08 PM
Respectfully Submitted, Rebecca McGuire, Deputy Clerk
STAFF REPORT
DATE: 09/19/2022
DISCUSSION
AGENDA ITEM: Klies Park Site Visit Discussion
TO: Parks Commission
SUBMITTED BY: Adam Swanepoel, Assistant Public Works Director Reviewed By: Marty Powers, Public Works Director Ben Hetzel, City Planner
BACKGROUND: During the June 20th Parks Commission meeting, after review and discussion of the survey results, members suggested all members conduct a walkthrough of Klies Park to bring up discussion and ideas for the 2023 park improvement project. The Commission has asked for public input from the residences of Lake Elmo as well as park users. ISSUE BEFORE COMMISSION: What improvements should the commission start planning for in Klies Park? Would you like to see the ballfield at Klies Park removed, improved or left as is? Would you like to see the Klies Park playset removed or replaced around the year 2026?
Would you like to see the Swings replaced since they will be removed due to safety concerns? Would you like to see a disc golf course added to Klies Park?
Are there any other amenities you would like to see added in Klies Park?
PROPOSAL DETAILS/ANALYSIS: With Klies Park due for updates in the near future, what are the recommended updates users would like to see? What the Parks Commission should consider are the user’s recommendations as well as the results from the survey taken in May/June of 2022. In addition, the commission should seek to improve the parks overall appearance as well as providing an inviting space for new and additional users.
PUBLIC COMMENT: Lake Elmo City staff advertised an invitation for the public to provide input on Klies Park future improvements either by attending the September 19th Parks meeting or by providing staff with written comments. Staff received 12 electronic comments. The following comments were received from the public:
1. The most common park activities include (1 comment):
• Dog walking and fetch
• Small children baseball with parents
• Football and soccer
• Frisbee
• Picnics
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2. Center field and right field are under water in the spring. (1 comment)
3. Due to close proximity of houses, please do not add activities that create noise or require outdoor lighting. No pickleball please. (1 comment)
4. The playground platforms are warped, rusted, and have sharp edges. Need replacing. (Pictures provided) (2 comments)
5. Replace the rock under the play equipment with rubber pellets. (1 comment)
6. Several dead trees near play equipment should be removed. (1 comment)
7. The park needs added trail maintenance. (3 comments) 8. The existing baby swing, swings sideways when pushed. A new swing set with a tandem toddler/parent option would be nice. (pictures provided) (1 comment)
9. Support of Klies Park disc golf without the cutting of trees. 10. Fix the park entrance on the northeast side. It has deteriorated and the slope makes it difficult to enter
safely in the winter by the swing set and slide. (2 comments) 11. Add a picnic table, gazebo, and new grill. The existing grill is old and rusty. (2 comments)
12. Add more park benches. (2 comments)
13. Add a free library. Take a book/leave a book. (1 comment)
14. Set up an ice skating rink. (1 comment)
15. Add a basketball court. (1 comment)
16. Add a portable toilet. (1 comment) CONSIDERATIONS The Parks Commission should consider alternative parks for a disc golf course. Kleis Park has a limited amount of space to support a challenging disc golf course. The City no longer uses rubberized mulch. Only certified playground mulch is used with playsets. RECOMMENDATION: Have an open discussion with members and the public on any potential updates to Klies Park in 2023. All formal recommendations will be compiled and presented at the October 2022 Parks Commission meeting. ATTACHMENTS: 1. Park Survey Results
2. Public Comment Emails
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Ben Hetzel
From:Chuck Graves <chuck.graves@comcast.net>
Sent:Monday, August 15, 2022 7:31 PM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Kleia Park
Caution: This email originated outside our organization; please use caution.
Please mover the trail that goes into the park on the north side, close to the swing set, so that it is level. It can be hard
to walk on during the summer and truly dangerous during the winter.
Is there room for disc golf, without cutting down trees?
Thanks,
Carol Graves
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Ben Hetzel
From:Robert & Jo Anne Le Monds <rlemonds1@gmail.com>
Sent:Saturday, September 3, 2022 8:29 AM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Klein Park
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
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I live very close to this park, and walk to this park almost every day… love the park, very peaceful and serene, I
would like to see a picnic table, new grill! The grill they have now, is very old and very rusty, not suitable for
grilling on… a small gazebo would be nice also… Thank You and I am hoping to see some improvements on
this park, earlier in my comments I forgot to mention that when I take my break from walking there’s only 1
bench, and many times I have seen other people sitting on the grass, please we need to improve this… Thank
You! Sincerely, JoAnne LeMonds--
Robert & JoAnne LeMonds
9768 53rd St. N.
Lake Elmo, Minnesota 55042
Email : rlemonds1@gmail.com
Home Phone: 651-773-0312
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Ben Hetzel
From:Val Brass <vbpalval@gmail.com>
Sent:Sunday, August 14, 2022 6:38 PM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Kleis and Pebble Park
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Flagged
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Hi Ben,
Kleis park sure could use some care. The play equipment has been vandalized over the years. The fill under the
equipment is too low for proper use. Several dead trees surround the play equipment and should be removed. Many,
many folk use the path through the woods on our daily walks, continued maintenance on that path would be
appreciated. More people use that park than May be realized and I bet even more would if it were maintained.
Pebble park playground needs repair. It should be on a regular watch by the sherif for vandalism. Both parks could use
a free library (the one at Pebble Park was destroyed).
Happy to give more input if you’d like, we use both of these parks w our grandkids and walk through Kleis often. Oooo,
dog dropping pick up reminder sign might be helpful.
So grateful the parks committee has these 2 parks on their radar.
Valerie Brass
Sent from my iPhone
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Ben Hetzel
From:Peggy Spofford <paspofford@gmail.com>
Sent:Sunday, August 28, 2022 11:52 AM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Kleis Park Improvements
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Hi, Ben. We have lived 2 blocks from this park since 1984. I would like to see the following 2 improvements to Kleis
Park:
‐ The entry to the park on the northeast side has deteriorated very much over the years and I would like to see it fixed.
Right now it slopes heavily and it is difficult to get to the park area by the remaining swing set/slide area. In the winter it
is very much worse. After this is fixed, some mulch or other material would help ‐ it’s all mud after a rain or in the
spring.
‐ The “nature trail” part of the park is also nothing but a muddy mess after rain or in the spring. If some mulch or some
other material could be placed there it would be great.
Thanks for the opportunity to comment.
Peggy Spofford
5267 Jerome Ave. Ct. N.
From:Tom Simpson
To:Ben Hetzel
Cc:Sharon Simpson
Subject:Kleis Park Improvements
Date:Monday, August 1, 2022 11:55:03 AM
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Hello Ben. My name is Tom Simpson, and my wife Sharon and I live across the
street from Kleis Park at 5270 Jamaca Blvd N.
We've lived at this address since 1983, so have had a front row seat to the activities
in the park for a long time. We actually planted and nurtured several of the trees long
ago around the perimeter of the park. Here are some thoughts about the park and
how it's used.
Since it's a small park, it is used almost exclusively by neighbors who walk to the
park. Just a few times each summer families, generally with young children, drive in
to use the playground area. Bottom line, our neighborhood now has many young
families, and the park is ideal for them.
The most common activities in the park are:
Dog walking along the trail in the woods.
Tossing a ball to play fetch with dogs.Small kids playing baseball with parents.
Pick-up games of football or soccer, again small kids with parents.
Frisbee etc. games by older kids and young adults.
Family picnics by the playground.Unfortunately every few months older kids come in with 4-wheelers and motorbikes
and do some damage to the infield.
One important issue to consider is that the right field and center field areas of the parkare under water after moderate or heavy rainfall and during spring thaw.
It's a small park, with houses close by, so on behalf of the neighbors I'd request that
you not add lights or bring in noisy activities (please no pickleball!). Also, if you doadd activities, please try not to break up the open area that is the outfield for the
baseball diamond, since that area sees the greatest variety of activities.
We'll be out of town during the August 15 meeting, but if you would like to talk aboutthe park, you're welcome to give me a call.
Tom Simpson
651 336 1631
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Ben Hetzel
From:Bill Miller <wtmwater@gmail.com>
Sent:Friday, August 26, 2022 6:40 PM
To:Ben Hetzel
Cc:Peter and Madeline Kastler
Subject:Kleis Park upgrades
Caution: This email originated outside our organization; please use caution.
Good afternoon Ben,
In speaking to Pat Barott (I may have Pat's last name incorrectly spelled ) Pat had
mentioned that Lake Elmo City Hall's Park Division was soliciting ideas for alternate use
as well as improvements to Kleis Park.
Without a doubt, Kleis park is a delightful part of our neighborhood!
We are beginning to have many young families move into our neighborhood and ice
skating seems to be the outside version of "pickle ball" of the winter dramatically gaining
in popularity.
Of course, it's a great way to "stay in shape" during the winter time but more
importantly a great "management tool" for young families tackling the very real
Minnesota phenomena of "cabin fever" that we Minnesotans know all too well.
I am writing to recommend that our city set up an ice rink for winter time park use at
Kleis Park. Please consider this "idea proposal" for your next planning meeting. (Let's
try it for a season or two as this is the only accurate way to truly measure demand!)
Respectfully,
Bill
William T. Miller
wtmwater@gmail.com
9240 55th Street North
Lake Elmo, MN 55042
Cell: 612.986.5099
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Ben Hetzel
From:Sarah Helfert <sarah.helfert@gmail.com>
Sent:Monday, August 15, 2022 6:29 PM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Kleis Park
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Hello!
I know this is late, but wanted to provide my insight of Kleis Park as a mom of a four and two year old who
lives close by.
The park needs updating - it’s an understatement. General groundskeeping to some added amenities would be
great! The playground is sufficient, but would be great to have an update. Would be great to have more swings
as well, than just the two.
The grounds are always rough and I know it’s tucked in the woods, which doesn’t help. But better maintenance
with regular “cleaning” would be appreciated.
An additional amenity like a basketball court, another bench, would be wonderful as my kids age. A portable
bathroom would be great - can’t tell you how many times we’ve had to leave because of no bathroom.
Thanks for hearing me out - sorry it’s a little later than I had hoped.
Sarah Netzer
9377 53rd St. N
From:Julia Hughes
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Kleis playground
Date:Sunday, July 31, 2022 5:44:53 PM
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Hello,
I am unable to attend the Parks Commission meeting but have a few requests and suggestions forKleis park.
The platforms are warped and areas are rusted and have sharp edges. These could be replaced orrepaired. (Pictures attached).
Replacing the “interactive” board with the missing steering wheel would be nice.
The baby swing is spaced too close at the top so it swings sideways when pushed. Or even better, anew swing set that includes a tandem swing for both baby/toddler and parent to enjoy (see pic).
If there really is a little extra room in the budget, a small toddler play area would fit nicely if theswing set were rotated.
We’ve enjoyed this park for a very long time and hope to continue for years to come.
Thank you,Julia Doroff
Sent from my iPhone
From:Val Brass
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Kleis and Pebble Park
Date:Sunday, August 14, 2022 6:37:41 PM
Caution: This email originated outside our organization; please use caution.
Hi Ben,
Kleis park sure could use some care. The play equipment has been vandalized over the years. The fill under the
equipment is too low for proper use. Several dead trees surround the play equipment and should be removed.
Many, many folk use the path through the woods on our daily walks, continued maintenance on that path would be
appreciated. More people use that park than May be realized and I bet even more would if it were maintained.
Pebble park playground needs repair. It should be on a regular watch by the sherif for vandalism. Both parks could
use a free library (the one at Pebble Park was destroyed).
Happy to give more input if you’d like, we use both of these parks w our grandkids and walk through Kleis often.
Oooo, dog dropping pick up reminder sign might be helpful.
So grateful the parks committee has these 2 parks on their radar.
Valerie Brass
Sent from my iPhone
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Ben Hetzel
From:Val Brass <vbpalval@gmail.com>
Sent:Sunday, August 14, 2022 6:38 PM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Kleis and Pebble Park
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Flagged
Caution: This email originated outside our organization; please use caution.
Hi Ben,
Kleis park sure could use some care. The play equipment has been vandalized over the years. The fill under the
equipment is too low for proper use. Several dead trees surround the play equipment and should be removed. Many,
many folk use the path through the woods on our daily walks, continued maintenance on that path would be
appreciated. More people use that park than May be realized and I bet even more would if it were maintained.
Pebble park playground needs repair. It should be on a regular watch by the sherif for vandalism. Both parks could use
a free library (the one at Pebble Park was destroyed).
Happy to give more input if you’d like, we use both of these parks w our grandkids and walk through Kleis often. Oooo,
dog dropping pick up reminder sign might be helpful.
So grateful the parks committee has these 2 parks on their radar.
Valerie Brass
Sent from my iPhone
1
Ben Hetzel
From:Bill Miller <wtmwater@gmail.com>
Sent:Monday, August 29, 2022 9:06 AM
To:Ben Hetzel
Cc:Peter and Madeline Kastler
Subject:Re: Kleis Park upgrades
Caution: This email originated outside our organization; please use caution.
Thanks Ben, good to meet you via email! and thanks for considering the Kleis park upgrade idea!
Bill
On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 7:25 AM Ben Hetzel <BHetzel@lakeelmo.org> wrote:
Thank you for you input Bill. Resident input is very important to the City. I will be providing your comments to the
Parks Commission at its September 19 meeting.
Ben Hetzel
City Planner
City of Lake Elmo
3800 Laverne Ave. N.
Lake Elmo, MN 55042
651-747-3911
From: Bill Miller [mailto:wtmwater@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 6:40 PM
To: Ben Hetzel <BHetzel@lakeelmo.org>
Cc: Peter and Madeline Kastler <peter.kastler@gmail.com>
Subject: Kleis Park upgrades
Caution: This email originated outside our organization; please use caution.
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Good afternoon Ben,
In speaking to Pat Barott (I may have Pat's last name incorrectly spelled ) Pat had
mentioned that Lake Elmo City Hall's Park Division was soliciting ideas for alternate use
as well as improvements to Kleis Park.
Without a doubt, Kleis park is a delightful part of our neighborhood!
We are beginning to have many young families move into our neighborhood and ice
skating seems to be the outside version of "pickle ball" of the winter dramatically
gaining in popularity.
Of course, it's a great way to "stay in shape" during the winter time but more
importantly a great "management tool" for young families tackling the very real
Minnesota phenomena of "cabin fever" that we Minnesotans know all too well.
I am writing to recommend that our city set up an ice rink for winter time park use at
Kleis Park. Please consider this "idea proposal" for your next planning meeting. (Let's
try it for a season or two as this is the only accurate way to truly measure demand!)
Respectfully,
Bill
William T. Miller
wtmwater@gmail.com
9240 55th Street North
Lake Elmo, MN 55042
Cell: 612.986.5099
--
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William T. Miller
wtmwater@gmail.com
9240 55th Street North
Lake Elmo, MN 55042
Cell: 612.986.5099
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Ben Hetzel
From:Jackie <jackieanderson24@comcast.net>
Sent:Monday, August 15, 2022 2:27 PM
To:Ben Hetzel
Caution: This email originated outside our organization; please use caution.
Hi! I live by Kleis Park and I use the walking trail twice a day. The playground has rock under the play
area. That should be updated to rubber pellets to make it safer for the kids using it. I have fallen on the walking
trail, tripping over one of the many roots that are in the path. It would be nice to make the trail a little more
smooth.
Thank you for any improvements made in our park!
Jackie Anderson
STAFF REPORT
DATE: 09/19/2022
DISCUSSION
AGENDA ITEM: Pebble Park Site Visit Discussion
TO: Parks Commission
SUBMITTED BY: Adam Swanepoel, Assistant Public Works Director Reviewed By: Marty Powers, Public Works Director Ben Hetzel, City Planner
BACKGROUND: During the June 20th Parks Commission meeting, after review and discussion of the survey results, members suggested all members conduct a walkthrough of Pebble Park to bring up discussion and ideas for the 2023 park improvement project. The Commission has asked for public input from the residences of Lake Elmo as well as park users. ISSUE BEFORE COMMISSION: What improvements should the commission start planning for in Pebble Park? Would you like to see the Pebble Park playset updated or removed? Would you like to see the Pebble Park tennis courts refurbished, modified for pickle ball or removed? Would you like to see the basketball court at Pebble Park removed, refurbished or updated to a full court?
Would you like to see the rebound wall updated or removed?
Are there any other amenities you would like to see added in Pebble Park? PROPOSAL DETAILS/ANALYSIS: With Pebble Park due for updates in 2023 and 2024, what are the recommended updates users would like to see? What the Parks Commission should consider are the user’s recommendations as well as the results from the survey taken in May/June of 2022. In addition, the commission should seek to improve the parks overall appearance as well as providing an inviting space for new and additional users. PUBLIC COMMENT: Lake Elmo City staff advertised an invitation for the public to provide input on Pebble Park future improvements either by attending the September 19th Parks meeting or by providing staff with written comments. Staff received 15 electronic comments. The following comments were received from the public: 10 comments supporting the addition of more pickleball courts in Lake Elmo. 4 of the 10 comments
specifically support adding pickleball courts in Pebble Park. Consider safety measures to control vandalism, littering, and parked car loitering. Examples include
security cameras, police patrol, and an entrance gate to regulate hours of use. (2 comments) The playground zipline is a popular attraction. (2 comments)
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Make baseketball court full size. (1 comment)
Would like to see a new playground. The two slides have been removed and openings boarded up with plywood. (3 comments)
Park spaces are frequently used for gathering such as Easter egg hunts, BBQs, and soccer games. Would like to see another picnic table under the shelter and another BBQ grill. (1 comment)
Consider lighting options for the park, but also consider abutting properties. (1 comment) CONSIDERATIONS: The Public Works Department has indicated lighting was added to the parking area recently and requested that the Sherriff drive through City parks more often. City staff do not recommend a gate due to the many issues associated with the Sunfish Lake Park gate including costly repairs and the likelihood of park visitors getting trapped inside after closing. RECOMMENDATION: Have an open discussion with members and the public on any potential updates to the Pebble Park in 2023
and 2024. All formal recommendations will be compiled and presented at the October 2022 Parks Commission meeting.
ATTACHMENTS: 1. Park Survey Results
2. Public Comments
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Ben Hetzel
From:Jane Nienaber <jane.nienaber@gmail.com>
Sent:Monday, August 1, 2022 9:50 AM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Future improvements for Pebble Park
Caution: This email originated outside our organization; please use caution.
For the August 15th, 2022 Parks Commission meeting
To the parks commission,
We would love to see Pebble Park improved and reimagined. Our young family walks to Pebble Park on a
weekly basis.
First, we would like to see a new playground. Currently, the existing playground is in rough shape. It had two
slides that have been removed and the openings are now just boarded up with plywood.
This spaces is frequently used for community and neighborhood gatherings like an annual Easter egg hunt,
soccer games and neighborhood BBQs. We'd love to see another picnic table under the shelter and a bbq grill.
Lastly, but most concerning, Pebble Park has been a victim of frequent vandalism, littering, parked car loitering
and it is a drug use area. I think the problem stems from the hidden parking lot that is "open" 24 hours a day. I
think real security cameras, timed gates for the parking lot, more frequent police patrol in the evening (or all 3)
would help the issues.
If this safety issue isn't addressed, I believe it will continue to taint this park. Please make safely a top priority.
Thank you for listening and considering neighborhood input on this special park.
Sincerely,
The Nienaber family
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Ben Hetzel
From:Val Brass <vbpalval@gmail.com>
Sent:Sunday, August 14, 2022 6:38 PM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Kleis and Pebble Park
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Flagged
Caution: This email originated outside our organization; please use caution.
Hi Ben,
Kleis park sure could use some care. The play equipment has been vandalized over the years. The fill under the
equipment is too low for proper use. Several dead trees surround the play equipment and should be removed. Many,
many folk use the path through the woods on our daily walks, continued maintenance on that path would be
appreciated. More people use that park than May be realized and I bet even more would if it were maintained.
Pebble park playground needs repair. It should be on a regular watch by the sherif for vandalism. Both parks could use
a free library (the one at Pebble Park was destroyed).
Happy to give more input if you’d like, we use both of these parks w our grandkids and walk through Kleis often. Oooo,
dog dropping pick up reminder sign might be helpful.
So grateful the parks committee has these 2 parks on their radar.
Valerie Brass
Sent from my iPhone
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Ben Hetzel
From:Doug Dufty <dkdufty@hotmail.com>
Sent:Saturday, July 30, 2022 8:09 AM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Lake Elmo Pickle Ball
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By adding pickle ball courts, excellent attention is given to expanding general recreation opportunities to the area
population.
Stillwater resident that plays now in LE Legion Park.
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Ben Hetzel
From:Laurie Hamerly <lauriehamerly@comcast.net>
Sent:Friday, July 29, 2022 8:59 AM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Park changes
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I am 63 years old and play Pickleball at Lake Elmo Lions park several times a week. My children also
play. I fully support PB courts at Pebble park. This sprort is only going to continue to grow.
My son is a disc golf player, and I know he would love to see that installed at Kleis park as well.
Thank you for considering this.
Laurie Hamerly
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Ben Hetzel
From:Jim voeller <jvcv5556@gmail.com>
Sent:Tuesday, August 2, 2022 6:35 AM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Park Input
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My name is Jim Voeller. I live at 11314 12th St N and have for over 30 years.
I would like to see more pickle ball courts in our town. There is a group of us (about 40 people) who play at Lions Park
every morning. Not everyone shows up every day but the sport is very popular and it’s great that the permanent hockey
boards at Lions Park get dual use—winter for hockey and spring, summer and fall for pickle ball. In fact, the courts at
Lions Park could use some resurfacing if there is money in the budget.
Thank you.
Sent from my iPhone
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Ben Hetzel
From:Keri Schultz <keri.schultz@stpaul.k12.mn.us>
Sent:Saturday, August 27, 2022 12:52 PM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Pebble park community comment
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Hello Ben,
Thanks so much for taking this time to gather feedback. I love using the park and would support replacing the two
missing slides. I think it is better use of funds than a playground remodel. I think it works great and hope two slides
might be able to be found, purchased, and attached with local funds? Everything else seems to work well.
I also appreciate the spending on a portable toilet and the trash removal by the covered picking space.
Last, I Really enjoy the soccer fields, tennis courts, swings, zip line, and basketball net as well. It is a great space.
Keri Schultz
8241 deer pond court north
Three kids and lots of their friends.
Sent from my iPhone
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Ben Hetzel
From:Mike Zeno <rosezeno@hotmail.com>
Sent:Saturday, September 10, 2022 11:44 AM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Pebble Park improvements
Caution: This email originated outside our organization; please use caution.
Ben Hetzel
When we improved Lions Park and expanded the VB courts we did a great job. So good in fact that it has
become difficult to use them because they both have been reserved for most of the summer by people from
out of Lake Elmo. I am happy that the courts are so popular. It shows that my goal of getting them expanded
and improved was justified. While we were debating what to do in Lions Park the possibility of moving them to
Pebble was suggested. We determined at that time that the area was suitable and fit the character we wanted
for the park. Some data presented by the Planning Commission indicated that, at the time, the population of
Lake Elmo warranted more than two courts.
I think it is now high time to consider this addition. Last summer the courts in town were used by youth who
were able to walk or ride their bikes to the court and who were on the district VB teams and now they can't.
Last year, on the average, 8‐10 youth used the courts up to 12 hours/week. This year is was zero. This does not
include the local adults that have had a similar experience. At least the adults are mobile enough to go
elsewhere.
I strongly suggest building courts either in Pebble or the alternate site at Demontreville. The total cost should
only be around 30‐50 thousand for two courts. Build at least two together. It makes sense from a usage and
cost standpoint. I gladly offer my expertise in this matter on the materials and equipment that will be needed.
Mike Zeno
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From:depearson@comcast.net
Sent:Saturday, July 30, 2022 10:26 AM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:pebble park
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Hi Ben,
I saw that the Parks Commission is making plans for Pebble Park in 2024. Too bad it’s not 2023. But then
I’m being selfish living so close to the park and an avid pickleball player. I am all for fixing the tennis courts
and (assume) adding striping for pickleball will be done since it’s a fast-growing sport.
Making the basketball court full size, I think is a good idea, though I don’t play basketball. I’ve noticed
more young families are moving into the area and the kids are growing and will probably use the court.
Lighting might be an issue to consider. The park needs lighting, the neighbors on the periphery probably
don’t want to it.
Safety is a big concern. Now bigger than ever with all the housing going in across the road. It’s probably
too expensive to circle the whole park in 10-foot chain-link fencing. (A person can dream.) At minimum,
would a gate that closes at 10 p.m. help keep the riffraff out?
Someone suggested to me that there should be cameras around. Even if they didn’t work. My opinion is
that if there are cameras, they should work. And what would this technology provide besides ongoing expense?
(My imagination is running wild—too much television.) I expect the benefit to cost won’t make this idea
feasible. But then, I could be wrong. (I haven’t met my quota of wrongs for the week yet. Although my husband
might say differently.)
Many people walk their dogs in the park that I expected to see poo piles a few days ago when I walked
through there. I was wrong, no obvious dumpings. In fact, the park looked clean.
Thank you for the opportunity to express my concerns.
Diane Pearson
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From:CATHY CATHY <cbritz@comcast.net>
Sent:Friday, August 5, 2022 6:31 PM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Pebble Park
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Hello Ben,
I am a Lake Elmo resident on Hidden Bay Trail. I understand that the city is looking for input on
future improvements to Pebble Park.
We occasionally bring our grandchildren to play on the playground and ride the zipline. They really
enjoy their time there. They love the zipline! It's a nice walk from Hidden Bay to Deer Pond Court
where we can then walk the trail to the park. It's nice to have that entrance to the park.
I would really enjoy some future pickleball courts. Currently we drive to Ivywood Park to practice
pickleball and Shawnee Park in Woodbury for Open play pickleball. Access to courts at Pebble Park
would be ideal. The Woodbury Parks and Rec department would likely have a lot of good information
for you on their successes. The Shawnee Pickleball Club is so well attended that they had to limit
enrollment this summer.
If pickleball courts get the green light, please feel free to reach out to us pickleball players for input.
There are a lot of us!!
Thank you,
Cathy Britz
651-214-4549
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From:Tom Rasmussen <tkrasmu@gmail.com>
Sent:Friday, August 12, 2022 6:33 PM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Pebble Park
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Hi Ben,
I anticipate many new users of Pebble Park will come from new Oakdale residents across the road.
So, I wouldn’t go overboard with park improvements, even though my family uses that park a lot.
Either eliminate the tennis courts or convert them to pickle ball.
Could be that Oakdale is putting in one or more parks as part of the housing development…I am not sure.
Love the idea of a disc golf course at Kleis Park. Invest more on this park and less on Pebble.
Thanks for reading.
Tom
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From:Tom Rasmussen <tkrasmu@gmail.com>
Sent:Friday, August 12, 2022 6:33 PM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Pebble Park
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Hi Ben,
I anticipate many new users of Pebble Park will come from new Oakdale residents across the road.
So, I wouldn’t go overboard with park improvements, even though my family uses that park a lot.
Either eliminate the tennis courts or convert them to pickle ball.
Could be that Oakdale is putting in one or more parks as part of the housing development…I am not sure.
Love the idea of a disc golf course at Kleis Park. Invest more on this park and less on Pebble.
Thanks for reading.
Tom
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From:Jo Ellen <joellentate@gmail.com>
Sent:Tuesday, August 2, 2022 10:51 AM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Pickleball Courts in Lake Elmo
Attachments:IMG_3575.jpg
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Ben,
First of all, thanks for your work with the parks in our city of Lake Elmo. My husband and I enjoy using several
of them.
The one that I use the most is Lion's Park to play pickleball. We have a group of around 20 people who play
every weekday morning - not 20 every day, but most of the courts are full every day. We play as soon as the
nets go up in the spring and until they take them down in the fall. We all would like to see more courts built in
Lake Elmo. We definitely endorse building them at Pebble Park. There is a huge need for more courts since
pickleball is such a growing sport.
And it would be great if the courts at Lion's Park could be resurfaced in the future. There are some eroded
places on a couple of the courts.
I've attached a picture from Lion's Park this morning. A hot, humid day and we had about 18 people there.
Thanks,
Jo Tate
11588 20th St. N.
Lake Elmo
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From:johnphamerly <johnphamerly@comcast.net>
Sent:Friday, July 29, 2022 9:04 AM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Pickelball courts in Pebble park
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I strongly support adding pickelball courts to pebble park. As the fastest growing sport and inclusive of all
sectors of our community the need and desire for quality courts in local parks is wanted and necessary. I
believe that this is wise usage of city funds as pickelball provides a healthy, social and inexpensive activity for
all ages, especially helpful in the fitness of our middle life and senior residents . I believe the need and the
desire directly aligns with the city’s mission statement = “The mission of the City of Lake Elmo is to
provide planned, quality public services consistent with the City's character in a fiscally
responsible manner in partnership with our community.
I am happy to discuss and promote via phone or email.
John P Hamerly, M.D.
9429 Jane Rd N
Lake Elmo, MN 55042
651 235 4060
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From:Jenifer Watters <jeniferwatters@gmail.com>
Sent:Friday, September 9, 2022 8:21 PM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Pickleball courts need repair
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Hi Ben,
I KNOW that we have plans to resurface Pebble Park and Tablyn for Pickleball.
The more GLARING safety risk is the ongoing play at the the Lion’s park hockey rink. We routinely have 18
players (all courts full, and 2 waiting).
Just this week we has a total chin plant resulting in a concussion, and a hamstring tear related to the ANGLE of
the courts. A hockey rink is not a pickleball court. Lake Elmo has MONEY in the budget to make this a safe
and amazing place to play. Play equals safety…..the better used a park, the safer it is.
Players will want to play……..let’s make it safe.
Thanks,
Jenifer Watters, CNWI
4180 Irvin Circle N
jenifer.watters@gmail.com
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Ben Hetzel
From:Jenifer Watters <jeniferwatters@gmail.com>
Sent:Monday, August 8, 2022 1:10 PM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Support for Pickleball courts in Lake Elmo
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Hi Ben,
I am writing to express my support for the construction of as many pickleball courts in Lake Elmo as possible. I’ve made
so many friends and Lake Elmo community connections because of the sport.
For the last 3 years, a group of locals have played at Lions Park. Our “Friends of Lake Elmo Pickleball” group has grown
from 8 to 30 social players! The courts at Lions Park are in horrible condition, but we continue to play there because it is
social and we celebrate each other’s accomplishments.
A well used park is a safe park and pickleball courts will be well used!
Jenifer Watters
4180 Irvin Cir N
Jenifer.watters@gmail.com
STAFF REPORT
DATE: 09/19/2022
DISCUSSION
AGENDA ITEM: Parking at Ivywood Park
TO: Parks Commission
SUBMITTED BY: Adam Swanepoel, Assistant Public Works Director
Reviewed By: Marty Powers, Public Works Director
Ben Hetzel, City Planner
BACKGROUND:
The City of Lake Elmo has received a request to restrict parking along Ivywood Circle N, in the
subdivision of Inwood 4th Addition. The rising popularity of pickleball and the addition of pickle ball
courts at Ivywood Park have led to additional cars parking along both sides of the street creating one lane
of access.
The request made to the City involved restricting parking specifically on the north side of the East-West
Leg of Ivywood Circle N adjacent to Ivywood Park.
This request went before City Council on 9/6/2022. If City Council chose to restrict parking, staff
recommended a no parking configuration that would restrict parking to one side of the street for the entirety
of Ivywood Circle. Staff does not support assigning no parking signs to only one section of Ivywood Circle.
Assigning no parking signs to one section of the roadway has the potential to push parking further into the
neighborhood, creating the same issue in a different location. It is staff’s position that if parking is to be
restricted to one side of the street, then the entirety of the street should be restricted to one side.
Members of the council suggested the parking concern go before the Parks Commission to identify
interest or plans of adding a parking lot to Ivywood Park.
ISSUE BEFORE COMMISSION:
What are the future plans of the park and does that include a parking lot?
Would it include an asphalt lot with or without concrete curb?
PROPOSAL/ANALYSIS:
With the increased use of Ivywood Park and the growing population near this location, a parking lot should
be considered to eliminate parking restrictions on Ivywood Circle. A new surfaced parking lot with
landscape and trees can be done within the existing area of the park in compliance with current city code
while saving space for additional amenities within the park.
Based on the current use and future expansion of the park, staff suggest 20 parking stalls within the lot. The
minimum parking space dimensions are 8.5 x 18 Ft. long. A 22-24 Ft. drive lane is needed between parking
areas. Increasing these dimensions to 9 x 20 while providing an ADA compliant parking spot and two way
travel would be ideal. Dimensions of the lot would be approximately 70 x 120.
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Surfacing
The Lake Elmo City Code exempts City Parks from the surfacing and drainage requirements for off-street
parking.
Landscaping
A visual screen is required for parking lots that are adjacent to a residential zoned area. Trees planted on a
berm between the parking area and the northern residential lot are proposed. A tree would be required
every 40 linear feet along the property line. In addition, frontage strip screening is also required which can
also consist of spruce trees on a berm.
Option 1:
If the commission would like to recommend a parking lot within the area of the park, the Public Works
department could assist the beginning stages of grading by stripping off the black dirt, bringing in needed
fill, and providing the base layer of gravel in the fall of 2022. This would provide temporary parking for
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the remainder of the 2022 year and beginning of 2023. In 2023 the paving of the lot could be completed
and added to the Stonegate Trail improvement project. Public Works could also construct the berm and
plant the spruce next spring.
Option 2:
Provide a detailed description to the cities engineering firm, which will design the parking lot and bid out
the project to include asphalt and concrete curb to the project. This would be completed in the 2023 at the
time of the Stonegate trail project.
FINANCIAL IMPACT:
Option 1:
Berm and Trees - $2500
Concrete Parking Curb stops: $3200
Sand Lift - $3000
Bituminous pavement $85,000 in 2023._____
Total Cost estimate: $90,000
Option 2:
Engineered designs and surveying
Contracted site grading
Fill/gravel
Concrete curb
Berm and trees
Asphalt_______________________________
Total Cost estimate $180,000
PARKS COMMISSION OPTIONS:
1. Recommend constructing a parking lot with option 1 or option 2.
2. Recommend constructing a parking lot in a different location.
3. Recommend to install no parking signs under staff’s direction.
4. Recommend to install no parking signs on the north side of the east-west leg of Ivywood Circle.
5. Recommend not altering the current parking situation.
RECOMMENDATION:
The Parks Commission should consider the potential future improvements of Ivywood Park and determine
whether those improvements warrant off-street parking space.
If a parking lot is considered staff recommends Option 1 to help provide cost savings as well as a temporary
solution to the parking issue in the fall of 2022 and spring of 2023. Note Option 1 does not include concrete
curbing- only concrete parking stall bumpers.
ATTACHMENTS:
1. Ivywood Park Parking Lot Map
2. City Council Staff Report
3. No Parking Signs Public Comments
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STAFF REPORT DATE: 9/6/2022
REGULAR
TO: City Council
FROM: Ben Hetzel, City Planner
REVIEWED BY: Marty Powers, Director of Public Works
Dustin Kalis, Fire Chief
AGENDA ITEM: Ivywood Circle No Parking Signs
BACKGROUND:
The City of Lake Elmo has received a request to restrict parking along Ivywood Circle N in the subdivision
of Inwood 4th Addition. The rising popularity of pickleball and the addition of pickleball courts at Ivywood
Park have led to additional cars parking along both sides of the street creating one lane of access.
The request made to the City involved restricting parking specifically on the north side of the east-west leg
of Ivywood Circle N adjacent to Ivywood Park.
ISSUE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL:
Should the City restrict parking along Ivywood Circle?
REVIEW/ANALYSIS:
A 28-foot wide local residential street can accommodate parking along both sides if vehicles stay tight
against the curb. The design of a local residential street is intended to allow a single drive lane in the
middle of a roadway while vehicles are parked on both sides. It is common for oncoming vehicles to pause
for one another to allow passing through areas with vehicles parked on both sides. The design is thought to
provide a traffic calming effect in residential neighborhoods.
City Council approved 28-foot wide streets for the Inwood development which allowed for parking on both
sides as per the former Engineering Design Standards. Following approval of the Inwood Development,
the City changed its engineering design standards to a minimum street width of 32 feet for parking on both
sides for new streets.
The current on street parking configuration is functioning as it was designed to do when originally
approved. It is staff’s position that if parking is to be restricted along Ivywood Circle N, then the entirety
of the street should be restricted to one sided parking as prescribed by the current Engineering Design and
Construction Standards for a 28-foot wide street. Additionally, residents have the ability to apply for a
temporary parking permit when allowable on street parking is not sufficient gatherings.
City of Lake Elmo Engineering Design and Construction Standards Manual dated January 2022
indicate the following minimum street widths for parking:
New local residential streets with parking on both sides: 32 feet
Local residential street when parking is allowed on one side: 28 feet
Local residential street with no parking: 24 feet
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Section 7.12.020 Temporary Parking Permits
Residents who live adjacent to a posted “No Parking” area have the option to obtain up to two temporary
parking permits per year. A temporary parking permit may be obtained for a specialty non-business or
social events that may include weddings, birthday parties, family reunions, bar mitzvahs, confirmations,
fraternal gatherings, etc. An application must be submitted to the City at least 3 workings days before the
date of a special event.
FISCAL IMPACT:
Each installed sign has a cost of $200. Seven signs will be required to post the entire street. The total cost
to the City would be $1400.
OPTIONS:
Approve Resolution 2022-XXX.
Amend Resolution 2022-XXX and adopt as amended.
Do not adopt Resolution 2022-XXX.
RECOMMENDATION:
The attached no parking configuration (Attachment 1) is recommended by staff if City Council chooses to
restrict parking along Ivywood Circle. The attached configuration was produced to accommodate existing
mailboxes and fire hydrants.
“Motion to approve Resolution 2022-079, restricting parking along Ivywood Circle as presented.”
ATTACHMENT:
1. Map of Recommended No Parking
2. Public Comment Letters and Emails
3. Resolution 2022-079
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Exhibit A
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From:Scott Schmick <scottschmick@gmail.com>
Sent:Saturday, August 27, 2022 5:17 AM
To:Ben Hetzel; Dave Peterson
Subject:812 Ivywood Circle
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Hi Ben,
I am copying a previous email to voice my opposition to no parking signs through our our subdivision. I
completely agree with Ken's email below. This is absolutely rediculous. 1-2 times a week, there might be cars
parked on both sides of the street next to the park. That being said, I didn't see it once this week. There are
literally TWO pickle ball courts. How many people do you think are actually parking here at a given time? I
can't believe one side no parking signs throughout our neighborhood is even a consideration. This is absolutely
ridiculous. I apologize for being rude, but I really hope common sense prevails. I really do not care to have a no
parking sign in my front yard. I also do not want guests or neighbors to have to worry about parking tickets or
being towed. Our streets are wide, and it's a small subdivision where we drive slow. Thank you for the
consideration.
Scott
Hi Ben, I am total opposed to parking signs in this circle. (Ivywood Circle). It is very unattractive and will cause additional work to
maintain the lawns. I personally do not see what the problem is. If we need to have only one car pass through parked cars then that’s what
it is and it does not cause inconvenience on anyone’s part in my opinion. There have been many emails and I hope you are seeing the emails
in opposition to the parking signs. Thanks for reading through this and for your consideration of not placing signs on our properties. Ken
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From:Nicole Hanselman <nhanselman@me.com>
Sent:Monday, August 29, 2022 8:27 AM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Inwood - Ivywood Cir - No Parking Signs
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Hello Ben
Jumping on the neighborhood bandwagon of emails!
We are IN support of no parking signs but ONLY in front of the pickleball courts not for the entire circle. When
Tony Bonfe presented it to us, we believed it was to have them only in front of the pickleball courts.
Thanks!
Nicole and Bruce Hanselman
743 Ivywood Cir N.
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From:Sarah Mason <masonsackett24@gmail.com>
Sent:Friday, August 26, 2022 2:06 PM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Inwood Estates Parking
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Hello Ben, I know you are receiving a lot of communication from Ivywood Circle concerning no parking. I
wanted to share that our HOA shared nothing with the residents that no parking was being considered.
Homeowners, myself included at 771 Ivywood Circle North, only learned of this from another resident earlier
this week.
My understanding is only homeowner communication in favor of was brought forward, so I would like to
submit my opposition to any no parking in our circle.
I have also reached out to our HOA to request due process for the future, thank you. - Sarah Mason (651) 216-
6707.
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From:Janice Hogan-Schiltgen <jhogan@umn.edu>
Sent:Friday, August 26, 2022 2:31 PM
To:Ben Hetzel; masonsackett24@gmail.com; Lisa McGinn
Subject:Ivywood Circle N parking
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Please do not make Ivywood Circle N parking on one side only. There is a small problem near the pickleball
courts but there would be a BIG problem for all of us impacted by the limited parking.
Mary Janice Hogan-Schiltgen
712 Ivywood Circle N
Lake Elmo, MN 55042
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From:Carol Sellner <csellner0316@gmail.com>
Sent:Friday, August 26, 2022 2:22 PM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Ivywood Parking Options
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Good afternoon,
We
just learned today that the City of Lake Elmo is considering two options for parking on Ivywood Circle. My husband and I
highly oppose one‐sided parking for the entire circle. As one of the original homeowners here since 2018, there have
been few, if any, issues with the parking here. I understand the folks by the pickle ball courts have an issue with people
parking there, but it’s short‐lived and not a year round problem. And….to us, it’s like building a house near an airport
and then complaining about the noise. They chose to build there…..
Again we highly OPPOSE one‐way parking for Ivywood Circle.
Gary and Carol Sellner
784 Ivywood Circle N
Lake Elmo, MN 55042
651‐402‐1491
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From:Carol Sellner <csellner0316@gmail.com>
Sent:Friday, August 26, 2022 2:22 PM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Ivywood Parking Options
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Good afternoon,
We
just learned today that the City of Lake Elmo is considering two options for parking on Ivywood Circle. My husband and I
highly oppose one‐sided parking for the entire circle. As one of the original homeowners here since 2018, there have
been few, if any, issues with the parking here. I understand the folks by the pickle ball courts have an issue with people
parking there, but it’s short‐lived and not a year round problem. And….to us, it’s like building a house near an airport
and then complaining about the noise. They chose to build there…..
Again we highly OPPOSE one‐way parking for Ivywood Circle.
Gary and Carol Sellner
784 Ivywood Circle N
Lake Elmo, MN 55042
651‐402‐1491
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From:Anthony Stanson <awstanson@gmail.com>
Sent:Saturday, August 27, 2022 4:36 PM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:No Parking signs, Ivywood Circle
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Hi, Ben
We are opposed to parking signs in this circle. (Ivywood Circle). It is very unattractive and will cause
additional work to maintain the lawns. I personally do not see what the problem is. If we need to have only one
car pass through parked cars then that’s what we do and it does not cause a problem as the road is wide
enough. Also, it is very infrequent that cars are parked on both sides.
Thanks for your attention to this matter.
Tony and Carolyn Stanson
832 Ivywood Cir. N.
Lake Elmo, MN 55042
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Ben Hetzel
From:Jane Herrmann <jcherrmann09@gmail.com>
Sent:Saturday, August 27, 2022 10:31 AM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:No Parking Signs on Ivywood Circle N
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Ben,
We are opposed to adding no parking signs to the entire Ivywood Circle for the following reasons:
-- We have not seen any issues that would justify the addition of no parking signs to the entire circle.
-- With no parking signs, there would be folks who need to park on the street turning around in driveways if
they approached the circle in the wrong direction.
-- The signs would create more work for the landscape company.
-- The signs would negatively impact the curb appeal of the houses.
If the homeowners who live immediately next to the pickleball courts want no parking signs in that immediate
area, that is up to those few homeowners.
Dale and Jane Herrmann
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From:kpkieffer@comcast.net
Sent:Friday, August 26, 2022 5:28 PM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Parking at Ivywood Circle
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Hi Ben, I am total opposed to parking signs in this circle. (Ivywood Circle). It is very unattractive and will cause
additional work to maintain the lawns. I personally do not see what the problem is. If we need to have only one car
pass through parked cars then that’s what it is and it does not cause inconvenience on anyone’s part in my
opinion. There have been many emails and I hope you are seeing the emails in opposition to the parking signs. Thanks
for reading through this and for your consideration of not placing signs on our properties. Ken
Kenneth P. Kieffer
785 Ivywood Circle N
Lake Elmo, MN 55042
Cell 612‐710‐0320
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Ben Hetzel
From:Kristine Larson-Braun <klb13@yahoo.com>
Sent:Friday, August 26, 2022 2:27 PM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Parking on Ivywood circle north
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Hi Ben - I’ve been on an email chain regarding changing the parking on Ivywood circle north in lake elmo - I’m
at 826 Ivywood circle and we are not in favor of changing the parking to be only on one side of the
street. Thank you
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From:Donald Lucast <lucas018@umn.edu>
Sent:Saturday, August 27, 2022 10:45 AM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:Parking on Ivywood Circle
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Mr. Hetzel,
Please consider the parking situation on Ivywood Circle as gotten well out-of-hand. What started as a
simple idea of limiting parking on one short stretch of street to avoid safety and convenience
problems has turned into a bigger issue than any one intended. All the residents want is that limited
parking, not restrictions around the whole circle. Can't that simple solution be sufficient?
Thank you.
Donald Lucast
796 Ivywood Circle
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From:jpf32@comcast.net
Sent:Saturday, August 27, 2022 11:11 AM
To:dave.peterson@fsresidential.com; Ben Hetzel
Subject:Parking via Inwood estates?
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I am opposed to adding no parking signs throughout our Ivywood Circle N neighborhood. Not necessary for the short
amount of time the pickle ball courts are in use during the year or the number of cars involved.
Claudia Flaska
808 ivywood Circle N
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From:David Carufel <djcarufel@comcast.net>
Sent:Friday, August 19, 2022 5:57 PM
To:Ben Hetzel
Subject:RE: No Parking Signs
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Thanks for sending this over for an opinion. I will give you my personal opinion as a resident who is familiar with the
area and also uses the pickleball courts. Given that the road isn’t very wide at that point, I can see it being a problem if
cars park on both sides of the road. Based upon the volume of cars that I typically see parked there, I think there is
sufficient parking availability just on the park side of road. And if there is the rare occasion where more parking is
needed, then people could park up the street where the residences face.
Dave Carufel
8935 Irving Blvd N
Lake Elmo, MN
From: Ben Hetzel [mailto:BHetzel@lakeelmo.org]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2022 1:59 PM
To: djcarufel@comcast.net
Subject: No Parking Signs
Hello Dave,
The City had a request to install no parking signs on the residential side of Ivywood Circle. The parking for pickleball on
both sides of the street has become a nuisance on the narrow streets. Typically we require a written request from the
HOA. Is this something the HOA would support?
Ben Hetzel
City Planner
City of Lake Elmo
3800 Laverne Ave. N.
Lake Elmo, MN 55042
651-747-3911