HomeMy WebLinkAboutParks Commission Minutes January 18 2017MINUTES
City of Lake Elmo Parks Commission
January 18, 2017
Members Present: Chair Weis, Commissioners Frick, Nelson, Olinger, Pearce
Members Absent: Commissioners Ames, Nuenfeldt, Steele, Zeno
Staff Present: Administrator Handt, City Clerk Johnson, Public Works Director Weldon, City
Planner Becker
The meeting was called to order by Chair Weis at 6:30 PM.
Approval of Agenda
There was discussion to pull the Nature Center from the agenda, but decided to keep it on as a
narrative. Motion by Weis, seconded by Nelson to approve the agenda. Motion
passed.
Swearing in of New Commissioners
City Clerk Johnson administrated the Oath of Office to new Commissioners Jean Olinger and
Tucker Pearce.
Election of Officers
Commissioner Weis was appointed Chair, Commissioner Frick was appointed Vice-Chair, and
Commissioner Nelson was appointed Secretary.
Approval of Minutes
Motion by Frick, seconded by Nelson to approve the minutes with the minor change from
Blackform to Blackford. Motion passed.
Lions Park
Handt suggested that the meeting should be opened up for public comment regarding the
priorities for Lions Park. Handt stated that emails regarding having a retro and
vintage theme had been received.
Barry Weeks explained that Lions Park is the oldest park in Lake Elmo and well used year round
with skating and baseball and use of the playground equipment. He would like
to see it maintain that historic character and have that feel maintained in any
improvements. He further stated that the park lies on the 45th parallel, which is
fairly unique. He would like to see home plate located exactly at the 45th parallel
since it is already close and there could be a plaque at park with information.
Weeks would like to see improvements like regarding of the field, dugouts, a
fence, and a historic theme.
Dave Moore said he went out and examined the baseball field. He stated that on average the
field will need approximately 1 foot of fill across the whole field, ranging from 6
inches and 1 ½ feet in different areas. Moore said that in the future if there are
any Engineering projects with excess material that is dugout could be delivered
to a specific park and reduce the cost of both haul the soil away and purchasing
new soil, but it would require coordination and having a designated location for
unloading the material. Moore also stated that Lions Park is the Emergency 100
year flood over flow area that has a swale built into the park that would have to
be maintained.
Nadine Overmueller asked that the Parks Commission keep Lions Park and consider it for a
conservancy. She discussed her concern about losing the park since it is valuable
real estate given its location in the village.
Todd Bruchu spoke as a resident and as a representative of Lake Elmo Baseball. The biggest
need is parking and more space. There is a need for more ball fields. And the
ones that exist need more space for warming up before games and restrooms.
He is happy to meet with the consultant to discuss ideas.
Dave Faint suggested that the south side of the park is somewhat vacant and since parking is a
concern at Lions Park that turning the volley ball court 90 degrees would allow
some parking on the site. He also offered the idea of using the volleyball court
for skating instead of damaging the newly constructed baseball field.
Brady Hilcocks, Miller Architects, asked for a priorities list. He wants to know what Lake Elmo
would like to see and what is the importance level of each item. Grading,
dugouts, press box, batting cages, etc. He asked how the Commission felt about
moving playground equipment and basketball court either within the site or off
the site. His plan is to return to the Commission in March with a more finalized
plan.
Commissioner Weis suggested a subcommittee that includes residents and Commission
members. And then give the feedback to the architect. After some discussion
this idea was dropped. The following is the priority list established during the
meeting:
1. Align home plate with the 45th parallel
2. Grade the site, specifically the ball field
3. Lights
4. Parking but consider the library parking
5. Practice areas (batting cage, warm up area, etc.)
6. Restrooms
7. Maintain and Enhance the vintage theme (example given Mieseville
Mudhens field)
Weldon asked the commission to consider if they want the park to remain a four season park or
for it to become a one season or just a baseball park. He suggested that they
consider installing items similar to what they maintain at other parks.
Nature Center Updated Agreement
Handt updated the Commission on the Nature Center Agreement. She explained that since the
discussion has been brought to the Commission in December, continued
discussion needs to happen in a public format. She stated that the biggest
difference is in the language regarding surveillance. One of the concerns with
the cameras is if they can be repositioned to capture nature in the moment.
Handt suggested that after the initial annual Commission decision on the camera
location that staff could possibly help decide on repositioning cameras as
needed given the board meets monthly. The item was continued until February.
Inwood 5th Addition
Becker shared with the Commission that the Inwood 5th Addition Final Plat was not moving
forward currently due to their exclusion of a required trail connection on their
drawings. Once that trail connection is shown connecting Island Trail to Inwood
Avenue, the Final Plat could move forward. No action required on this item.
Hidden Meadows 2nd Addition
Becker presented the Hidden Meadows 2nd Addition Final Plat submittal for review and
comment. The original approval was granted in 2006 and since a significant
amount of time has passed, the Plat is subject to current City standards and
review. The Commission discussed the difference of sidewalks versus trails in
this neighborhood and the placement of trails shown on the Plat drawing. The
Commission decided they had no preference for trails or sidewalks, either would
be sufficient. Chair Weis motioned to exclude the Horseshoe trail shown on the
plat around the pond. Motion seconded by Commissioner Pearce. Motion
passed.
3880 Laverne Avenue Lot Split
Becker presented that 3880 Laverne Avenue has submitted an application for a commercial lot
split. Park land is not dedicated in commercial developments; they pay a fee in
lieu of land. The existing building will remain on one of the lots and two
additional smaller lots will be created along 39th Street N. No action required on
this item.
Village Park Preserve
Becker presented that Village Park has received Preliminary Plat approval and the Final Plat
application has not been received. An addition of 15.77 acres is being added to
Reid Park. They were only required to provide 10 percent or 6.8 acres, so it is
possible this extra amount could be applied to future developments. The
commission discussed the land being dedicated as being steep and heavily
wooded and that the pipeline runs beneath it. Additional discussion was about a
trail connection to Reid Park being included in the development and about
raising the priority of redeveloping Reid Park due to the amount of properties
that would have direct access to the park. The Commission asked for the
inclusion of minutes to be included for items that had previous review from the
Parks Commission. No action required on this item.
2017 Work Plan
Becker asked if the Commission would review the changes and amendments made to the 2017.
Chair Weis asked if there could be an update to the status of the items as they
are being reviewed and if instead of a priority listing a monthly listing could be
added to stay on top of the projects and know what is coming the following
month. Handt agreed that would be a good approach. She suggested that once
Council establishes their priorities during goal setting, staff could draft a Work
Plan with the months added that follows the direction from council. No action
required on this item.
VAA Request
Becker shared that the St. Croix Valley Athletic Association that reserves Reid Park and Pebble
Park for baseball and softball fields April through July Monday through Friday in
the evenings. The association is celebrating their 50th year and would like to
purchase park equipment or sponsor something in the City. The Commission
discussed and decided that benches for Pebble Park would be their
recommendation and that if they are going to install a batting cage, there is also
room for that at Pebble Park.
February Meeting
Manzara Nature Center
Policy Development Plan
Savona Park
Staff Reports and Commission Update
1. Handt shared that Council adopted the 2017-2021 CIP at their December meeting, and
the approval did not include proposals for Demontreville Park and Sunfish Lake Park.
2. Handt shared that Council approved the Royal Golf Comp Plan Amendment at the last
Council meeting and the Royal Golf Preliminary Plat will be brought to the Parks
Commission meeting when the application is received.
3. Handt informed that a seven figure donation will be given to the City to replace the 4
ball fields that will be removed from the golf site. She asked the Commission to
consider where new ball fields could be created since there is a community need.
4. Weldon shared that an Eagle Scout has proposed a Wood Duck project to construct 1-2
Wood duck structures around each of the lakes at Sunfish Lake Park. Once more
information is available, it will be brought to a meeting for review.
5. Weldon stated that Savona Park is in the final stages of combining the different plans
that have been proposed. An updated site plan and pricing will be brought to the
February meeting, and there is also a need to address site grading issues. This will be an
item for recommendation for City Council.
6. Tablyn Park options update, still working with Xcel for a price on getting a light to the
top of the sledding hill.
Meeting adjourned at 8:37 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Tanya Nuss