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FINAL
Lake Elmo Park Commission
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
January 19, 2011
Chairman Ames called the meeting to order at 7:04 p.m.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT:
Members Present: Marty Dobbs, John Ames, Judith Blackford, Rolf Larson, Pam
Hartley
STAFF PRESENT: Project Assistant Kriegler
1. Agenda
Agenda was approved as amended (M/S, Larson/Dobbs 5-0) Item number 2 was
removed as December minutes were not available and “Election of Officers” was added.
3. Election of Officers
Pam Hartley and Rolf Larson were nominated to serve as chair person with both
indicating that they would be willing to serve as “vice chair” in the event they were not
elected chair. It was commented that both individuals were very competent and
accomplished. With an anonymous vote, Pam was elected Chair, Rolf as Vice-chair and
Marty as Secretary. Pam served as chair for the remainder of the meeting.
4. Review and discussion of MPCA grading and landscape plans for Lanfill –
“Sunfish Lake Park West” and potential future recreational uses.
Two sets of MPCA proposed landfill grading plans were presented and reviewed. The
grading plans presented were those revised by the MPCA in response to Park
Commission and staff comments expressed at a September 2010 meeting with
representatives of the MPCA. Comments generated were as follows:
PARKING / ENTRY AREA
Park Commissioners recognized the importance of avoiding conflict with Fire Department access.
They do, however, want to utilize any existing parking areas so long as doing so does not impair
the Fire Department. A conversation with the Chief to hear his concerns and limitations is
encouraged.
The area northwest of the pit and directly east of the Fire Station were both considered for
potential parking areas, with the northwest area being preferred. In any case, it will be important
that a direct and defined path from the parking area to the “natural area” of the park be provided.
In addition, a direct and defined path from the pit to the “natural area” is also desired.
LANDSCAPING
The latest version of the grading plan does not include landscaping. While some members of the
Commission previously expressed that they would prefer that the road frontage in the area of the
turn-back area, not be screened with plantings, they do support extensive screening in all other
areas. Landscaping in the remaining areas should be restored. They would prefer that
landscaping done in frontage of the turn-back area be relatively low so that there is good visibility
into the pit and so that the area appears inviting for recreational use.
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In addition, it is suggested the landscape screening along Jamaca “turn the corner” and continue
along the north side of landfill, providing effective screening for those viewing the site from the
north and northwest, including park users.
The extensive planning of natives is desired in the adjacent areas to the west and north of the pit
area. The landscaping should be done in such a way that does not impair visibility into the site. It
also might be desirable to remove fencing along the north side of the site or move it to the south,
as currently the entry to the natural area of the park is very “tunnel-like” and unnatural.
GRADING
Members expressed that they were pleased with the “softening” of the grade on the west-side of
the turn-back area, but requested that a comparable “softening” be carried through on the
northwest diagonal slope.
LANDFILL GRADE
Review and discussion of the proposed grading plans centered on the area to be turned back to
the City. The Commission did recognize the two different landfill profiles and was interested in
the basis for each. For the most part, the Commissioners expressed that the lower the profile,
the better.
5. Trail Guide Plan review and update
Carol Kriegler provided a rebrief of the Demontreville Trail engineering report made to
the Parks Commission in August of ’09 including a copy of the PowerPoint presentation
made at that time. In addition she reported that the current plan includes a 24’-wide
roadway with two 11’-wide lanes an 1’ width of gravel shoulder- resulting in 2’ on one-
side of the road.
Some very preliminary budgets were also reported for the Village to High School base
trail. The budget is based on the unit pricing in the City’s Trail Guide Plan. Budget for
the 10,000 lineal feet of trail is $425,000 (based on unit pricing of $225,000 per miles
and might not adequately reflect land acquisition costs). It was also reported that staff
and engineering are working on determining the best way to lay out the course.
The Commission expressed the interest in completing this entire base trail in one phase
as it is not desirable to construct the base trail in segments as they will not serve any
useful purpose in segments. The Commission also reiterated their desire / willingness to
depart from the Village / S.A.H.S. base trail configuration as outlined in the Trail Guide
Plan in an effort to align the trail more closely to Hwy 5 where the trail would be more
visible, more direct and more likely to be utilized.
6. Sign program planning for recently completed Demontreville and Sunfish Lake
Park
The Parks Commission discussed the need / opportunity to provide some regulatory
signage at Sunfish Lake Park and Demontreville Wildlife Area given the availability of
recently constructed information kiosks in these locations. Sign layout revisions based
on comments received from the December meeting were presented and approved for
production.
Motion: Support of moving forward with regulatory signage for S.F.L.P. and
Demontreville Wildlife Area (M/S, Dobbs/Ames, 5-0)
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Adjourned 9:10 pm
Respectfully submitted,
Carol Kriegler,
Project Assistant