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City of Lake Elmo
Planning Commission Meeting
Minutes of October 14, 2013
Chairman Williams called to order the meeting of the Lake Elmo Planning Commission at
7:00 p.m.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Williams, Dorschner, Dodson, Larson, Kreimer and
Morreale;
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Haggard and Lundgren; and
STAFF PRESENT: Planning Director Klatt and City Planner Johnson.
Approve Agenda:
The Planning Commission accepted the agenda as presented.
Approve Minutes: September 23, 2013
M/S/P: Williams/Morreale, move to accept the minutes of September 23, 2013 as
amended, Vote: 5-0, Motion Carried, with Larson not voting.
Presentation: Manning Ave. Corridor Study – Washington County
Frank Ticknor, Washington County, started his presentation by explaining that the main
goal is to start a dialogue with all the communities along Manning Ave. (CSAH 15). This
dialogue will include analysis of existing conditions, future growth alon g the corridor,
and estimated future traffic volumes.
Manning Ave. is the main north-south arterial in Washington County. The County is
preparing this study to be proactive to address future needs for the roadway before
challenges arise. Ticknor gave an overview of the entire corridor from I-94 to TH-5,
showing the status of existing intersections and forecasts of future performance under a
no-build scenario. In addition, Ticknor highlighted all the goals of the Manning Ave.
Project. Goals include improving safety, managing traffic demand, improving access,
and others.
Brian Jensen, SRF, presented the schedule and stakeholders involved on the Manning
Ave. Project. Once stakeholders were identified, Washington County has been
coordinating monthly meetings with the key stakeholders. In addition, the County is
working on an extensive public engagement effort. The desired outcome includes three
documents:
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1. Preliminary roadway design – mutually agreed upon by jurisdictions involved
2. Environmental document
3. Implementation plan – allows stakeholders to prioritize and time improvements
Jensen continued his presentation by explaining the Subarea Study.
Leif Garness, SRF, presented the Subarea Study in greater detail. The Subarea Study
includes three alternatives, including 1) realigning TH-5 with CSAH 14, 2) expanding
Manning Ave. to a 4-lane facility, and 3) alternatives 1 and 2 combined. The consultant
explained how all of the various alternatives impacted future traffic volumes along the
Manning Ave. Corridor and adjacent streets and corridors. The preliminary findings of
the study shows that the greatest benefit from a traffic management perspective
includes an expansion of Manning to a four-lane facility and realigning TH-5 with CSAH
14.
Dodson asked if the County has an idea of the source of the traffic along these corridors.
What percentage of the traffic is generated by residents of Washington County? Jensen
explained that the traffic data was generated by a County model not taking source into
account.
Williams asked if the type of intersection control has been studied for the realignment
of TH-5. Jensen explained that the traffic control will be studied at the next level of the
study. The City would have input on any future control or improvement s.
Larson asked about the final goal of the project from a traffic perspective. The County
wants to encourage north-south travel movements, and minimize east-west traffic.
Dodson asked if the new HWY-36 Bridge is included in the Manning Ave. Study. Jen sen
noted that the bridge is incorporated, but has not shown a significant impact as of yet.
Jensen concluded by presenting the project schedule. Construction phase is expected to
begin in April of 2015. The main take away is that it is important for Manning to
become a 4-lane facility.
Ticknor finished the presentation by providing contact information and the project
website.
Williams asked if the County studied directing Manning straight north to TH -36. Ticknor
stated that the limits of this project stop at TH-5. Williams also noted that the County
was able to secure grant funding to install traffic signals at Lake Elmo Ave. (CSAH 17).
Dodson noted that he would like to see the wide shoulder maintained t o serve bicyclists
in Washington County. He noted that Manning Ave. is a popular route.
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Larson was wondering if the study was connected to the railroad crossings. Is there any
talk of over/under pass? Ticknor said that there are railroad protection zones in the
airport area, so it can’t have a vertical element. The crossing on Manning is eligible to
become a quiet zone, but the communities should participate in that aspect of the
project.
Public Hearing (cont.): Zoning Text Amendment – Village Mixed-Use Zoning District
Klatt began his presentation by explaining that the Village Mixed Use (VMX) zoning
district would be added to the Zoning Code under Article 11. He started by addressing
how multiple areas of review by the Planning Commission have been incorporated into
the current draft of the ordinance. He discussed permitted and conditional uses,
maximum site dimensions for commercial properties, screening for single family homes,
design review, and other considerations. Klatt made connections betwe en the
proposed draft ordinance and the workshop meeting that was held on October 7 th,
including the drawbacks and benefits of mixed -use zoning. Moving forward, Klatt
highlighted major decision points, including permitted vs. conditional uses, maximum
height, single family attached standards (no front-loading garages), automobile-oriented
uses, drive-through facilities, design and demolition review, and others. Finally, Klatt
discussed next steps, including zoning and Comprehensive Plan work, as well as f uture
work on form-based codes and implementation of design review.
Williams asked if a clean-up amendment will be necessary, as zoning standards are
found in multiple locations in the Code. Klatt confirmed that staff will have to proceed
with a clean-up amendment of the Zoning Code.
Klatt noted that staff plans on bringing forward a zoning map amendment to implement
the new Village Mixed-Use (VMX) zoning district.
Dorschner asked where the 50-year timeframe comes under the demolition review
section. Klatt noted that 50-years was the base standard under historic preservation
that qualifies a building as historic.
Related to demolition review, Dodson asked about who determines that an applicant
cannot obtain a reasonable economic return. Klatt noted that the Planning Commission
and Council make that determination.
Public Hearing closed at 8:12pm.
Dorschner asked about the 3 criteria for demolition of structures in the mixed -use
district, including structural defects, threat to public safety and economic feasibility of
repair. He asked if all 3 were required, or if applicants only have to meet one of these
criterion. Klatt stated that applicant must meet one of the three criterion .
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Dodson asked for further clarification related to the review process for design review.
He thought the title was confusing. The Planning Commission consented to a title
change.
Dodson asked about placeholders and if they should have direction with them for the
time being so there is a process associated with them. Klat t suggested just removing
them for the time being if the ordinance is adopted. They were in the draft as a tool to
look at later.
Dodson asked if two-family dwelling should be exempted. Klatt suggested that it should
be exempted.
Dorschner noted that he is concerned that the criterion for the demolition review are
subjective. Williams noted that he views the demolition review as similar to a PUD
situation, where the applicants and City come to an agreement. Dorschner noted that
he is concerned that some buildings that were built 50 years ago were of poor
construction and should not be preserved. Williams suggested making all building s built
before 1950 eligible for demolition review. Larson noted that some structures have
been added upon and there are portions of the buildings that are built post 1950 and
other portions that were built pre-1950. Dorschner reiterated his concern that the
demolition review is subjective. Klatt suggested using the language “built prior to 1950”
and “meeting 1 or more of the following” regarding the required findings. Johnson
asked if single family homes should be included or if there should be different
standards. Williams felt the older buildings helped with the old town feel that we want.
Kreimer suggested applications to demolish any structure built before 1950 should be
reviewed according to the following criteria.
Williams noted that there is no reference to a Village Green in the zoning district. He
asked if there should be a reference. Klatt noted that the best way to implement a
Village Green is to either zone property for public use or partner with a private
developer on a mixed use project that includes a green.
Larson is concerned that the City is letting go of control to incorporate a downtown
gathering amenity. Klatt highlighted the tools that the city can use to take a more active
role in working towards a master planned village green development.
Williams noted one other update related to the definition of development activity.
M/S/P: Larson/Dodson, move to recommend approval of the ordinance as amended in
the discussion, Vote: 6-0, motion carried unanimously.
Business Item: Design Standards Manual
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Johnson presented a final draft of the Lake Elmo Design Standards Manual. Williams
noted that there were a few minor modifications to the document that was distributed
at the October 7, 2013 workshop. These modifications were only in regards to pictures,
and did not change the text in the document.
Johnson reviewed the purpose of the design standards manual, which is for site and
building review in the VMX, Commercial, Business Park and High Density Residential
zones. He also discussed the performance standards used in current zoning districts,
and summarized the process to date. He noted that Staff has presented previous drafts
to the Planning Commission and has conducted a stakeholder meeting with members of
the business and development community.
Johnson reviewed contents of the design standards manual with the Commission and
noted some of the specific standards that were proposed.
Williams questioned why there was no list of preferred building materials for high
density residential structures. He also asked about the use of translucent glass in the
High Density Residential section and suggested that this be moved back to the general
section.
Dodson stated that the review should be completed by the final development approval
for compliance purposes.
Johnson noted that the document provides a balance between permissive and
mandatory language. Kreimer suggested that the manual include more mandatory
language for certain elements, including streetscape design, landscaping, and scale and
mass of buildings. Johnson stated that some things might be mandatory based on use.
Williams questioned the wording related to roof materials and the permissive language
in one section of the manual.
Dodson asked whether or not the City would prohibit certain types of development
from being built in the community. Johnson replied that the standards generally should
not keep a business from locating in the community that wants to be located in Lake
Elmo. He further reiterated that the manual attempted for a balance b etween good
design and standards that are not overly restrictive.
Dorschner noted some inconsistencies between various sections of the manual.
Johnson noted that he would make revisions to improve the consistency between the
various sections.
Kreimer questioned why there were no specific recommendations from the theming
work that was recently completed. He also suggested that some of the pictures be
amended, especially those that depict buildings that do not step the upper floors back
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from the street. Johnson replied that the theming work was focused on public areas
rather than private development sites. He stated that he would look for opportunities
to reference the theming work and that he would also review the pictures for buildings
over two stories in height.
Dodson asked for clarification concerning the use of the term complementary and how
this would be interpreted. The Commission discussed if earth tone should be used. He
noted that the high density residential section was the only one to reference a
maximum height for parking lot lights. The Commission generally discussed the need
for separate height requirements for different uses.
Kreimer pointed out that the building placement section in the high density residential
section appears to be contradictory with regards to setback requirements.
Williams commented that the parking setback requirements should reference the
Zoning Ordinance rather than being listed separately in the manual. He suggested that
the lighting section reference dark sky/light pollution as one of the objectives. He
further noted that the manual does not reference electronic message signs. Williams
suggested that the manual reference restricted root zones. He asked that the manual
include a reference to historic buildings and reflecting or recalling the historic character
of existing buildings in the Village. Williams made additional suggestions for revisions to
the document.
The Commission generally suggested that the document incorporate additional
language pertaining to the Village planning area.
It was suggested that in general, metal should be allowed as a building material.
Johnson stated that he would do some more research on the use of metal building
materials.
There was a general discussion concerning landscaping of parking areas and the
required setbacks within business park areas.
Johnson reviewed the next steps in the process, and noted that he would be refining the
draft design standards manual based on the comments from the Planning Commission.
There will be a public hearing at the October 28, 2013 meeting to adopt it into zoning
code.
Williams suggested providing notice to the development community once the final draft
has been prepared.
Williams wants a motion to encourage the City Council to proceed with developing a
master plan for a Village green. Dodson stated that from a practical standpoint, how
would it get implemented and would it be economically feasible? Dorschner stated that
if restricted by a plan, it would be hard to implement and would be expensive if planned
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to be placed in a specific spot. Williams likes the idea of a Village Green. It doesn’t have
to be large, but he would like to be proactive in regards to it. Larson would like
someone who knows about the vision Lake Elmo has to work with developers on the
features we would like. Klatt suggested that it might be leaping ahead to be talking
about this now. There currently is no approved Comprehensive Plan. We would need
to have that before we talk about a Village Green. It would be good to talk to the City
Council about it and get it on the 2014 work plan and incorporate this discussion with
the Village land use plan.
Updates and Concerns
Council Updates
1. Comprehensive Plan Amendment for Landucci Property approved by City Council
contingent on Met Council approval.
2. Landucci Sketch Plan, submitted by Ryland Homes, was reviewed by the City
Council.
3. Variance – 09.029.21.22.0025 (Hill Trail North) was postponed to the October 15,
2013 meeting.
Staff Updates
1. Staff will be preparing a worksheet for finding of fact as a tool for the
Commission to use for future land use decisions.
2. Planning Commission meetings upcoming on October 28th and November 13th.
The meeting on 11/13/13 is on a Wednesday due to the Veterans Day holiday.
Commission Concerns – None
Meeting adjourned at 10:18pm
Respectfully submitted,
Nick Johnson
City Planner