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LAKE ELMO
City of Lake Elmo
Planning Commission Meeting
Minutes of July 22, 2013
Chairman Williams called to order the meeting of the Lake Elmo Planning Commission at
7:01 p.m.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Williams, Haggard, Larson, Morreale, Dodson and Kreimer;
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Reeves and Dorschner; and
STAFF PRESENT: Planning Director Klatt, City Planner Johnson and City Administrator
Zuleger.
Approve Agenda:
The Planning Commission accepted the agenda as presented.
Approve Minutes: June 24, 2013
M /S /P:
Kreimer /Dodson,
move to accept the minutes of June
24, 2013 as amended to
include
mention that the
Hammes Estates Sketch Plan lacks a
neighborhood park, Vote:
4 -0, Motion Carried, with
Haggard not voting.
Public Hearing: Savona Preliminary Plat — Lennar Homes
Klatt began the Staff presentation by explaining the Planning Commission's role in
reviewing preliminary plat applications. He noted that plat applications are subject to
the City's Subdivision Ordinance, wherein the rules of land subdivision are established.
These ordinances include provisions related to grading, streets, utilities, storm water
management and other considerations related to establishing new subdivisions or other
development.
Klatt moved on to present a general overview of the Preliminary Plat application
submitted by US Homes Corporation (Lennar Homes). The subdivision is located on 112
acres and includes 310 residential units. He then provided a location map that
highlighted all the parcels of land that are included in the application. He also described
the existing land uses that surround the proposed subdivision.
Regarding utilities, Klatt noted that the applicant and other landowners in the area have
submitted a petition to extend sanitary sewer and water to the proposed development
site west of Keats Avenue North (CSAH 19). This project would extend utilities
throughout the Stage 1 development area identified in the Comprehensive Plan, making
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connection
to sanitary
sewer and
water possible for other
parcels in the area. The
project also
includes a
lift station.
Klatt noted that the parcels included in the application are currently zoned Rural
Development Transitional (RT). As far as the history is concerned, the Planning
Commission reviewed a Sketch Plan on December 10, 2012. In addition, the City Council
approved the Environmental Assessment Worksheet required for the project on July 2,
2013.
Regarding the City's Comprehensive Plan, Klatt explained how the proposal relates to
the City's Planned Land Use Map. The proposal is consistent with the Comprehensive
Plan in terms of land use, density and expected number of residential units for the area.
Klatt noted that the proposal shifts the minor collector road in the 1 -94 Corridor to the
south. This change enlarges the area guided for Low Density Residential, as the
collector road serves as the boundary in the City's Comprehensive Plan.
Moving on, Klatt described how the proposed subdivision compares to the City's zoning
districts. He highlighted the basic details of the proposed residential lots that will be
included in the subdivision.
Getting to the plat application itself, Klatt presented the basics of the proposal. In
addition, he gave an overview regarding the Staff Report. Regarding action, Klatt noted
that Staff has identified 27 conditions of approval. The largest of these included the
greenbelt buffer of 100 feet, there needs to be adequate room for a 30 foot trail set
back to the exception lot, the developer is responsible to install new median and a trail
connection across Keats to the East and the full 10% park dedication. There were also a
number of Engineer conditions that including a secondary access and realignment of the
street. These conditions would be required to be resolved in advance of Final Plat
approval. Klatt noted that the developer has requested to modify conditions 17, 18, and
24. Staff recommends that language can be added to condition #18 to allow secondary
access to the north. In addition, Staff is comfortable with the language proposed for
condition #24 related to the 429 public improvement project.
Klatt did note some base findings for the Planning Commission. In addition, Klatt noted
that Staff is recommending that the Planning Commission recommend the preliminary
plat application for approval to the City Council with 27 conditions of approval.
Morreale noted that he is confused regarding the density in the proposal. He felt that
the proposal should adhere to the low end of the allowed density range, which is 2.5
units per net acre. Klatt explained that the comprehensive plan approved a range of
density that was 2.5 to 4 and was not specific to numbers. Klatt also stated that it
should be noted that this proposal is described in net density terms, which includes the
park and open areas as well.
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Haggard asked about the requirements of parkland dedication vs. open space. Klatt
noted that the Comprehensive Plan does not require open space, but it is encouraged.
The Subdivision Ordinance requires parkland dedication at time of subdivision (10% in
this case). Haggard also asked what the fee in lieu of parkland dedication would be.
Klatt noted that it would be the equal market value of 4.6 acres. He did not venture
what that would equate to.
Williams asked what the determination of the Park Commission was regarding the
Savona concept for parkland. Klatt noted that Staff did locate the minutes for that
meeting. There was no formal motion from the Park Commission regarding the Savona
Concept. Williams also asked about acreage of Reid Park. Klatt stated that Reid Park is
2.6 acres with parking, 1.9 acres without.
Larson asked about the park structures included in the tot lot. He would like to see
seating and shade for people to watch their children.
Morreale asked why the City would accept fee in lieu of land dedication when there is a
need for more parkland. Klatt noted that the Parks Commission has expressed concern
about the City's ability to maintain additional parkland when there is a need for
maintenance for the City's existing facilities. Staff felt that this development was so
close to the Park Preserve that people in this development would probably use those
facilities in addition to City parkland.
Kreimer asked if the applicant has to present the types of homes they intend to build,
including information about pricing and architectural style. Klatt noted that this type of
information is typically not reviewed in a plat.
Dodson asked about the budgetary /financial implications of the new development
proposal. Administrator Zuleger noted that sewer and water extensions costs come
from enterprise funds, and the tax revenue from the new homes will pay for additional
public safety considerations, such as sheriff deputies and fire protection.
Haggard asked about the pedestrian crossings of 5th Street. Klatt noted that with any
improvement there would be a crosswalk, but no controlled intersection. Administrator
Zuleger also noted that there is a 10' bituminous trail on the north side of 5th Street and
6' sidewalk on the south side of 5th Street. These facilities will aid pedestrian circulation
on 5m Street.
Haggard asked about the architectural design of the townhome area. Klatt noted that
the applicant has not submitted any additional information and that it is not required
until the final plat. Williams noted that there is only so much level of detail that the City
can evaluate the proposal on at Preliminary Plat.
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Morreale asked if the City is allowed to make the developer lower the density of the
proposal to 2.5 units per acre. Klatt noted that the Planning Commission would have to
make findings that support why the request does not comply with the Comprehensive
Plan. Klatt noted that the proposed density currently does comply with the
requirements of the Comprehensive Plan. If the City wanted to stick to the 2.5 units per
acre density requirement, the Comprehensive Plan would need to be amended to
reflect this requirement.
Williams asked about Outlot K. Klatt noted that the area includes all the common areas
of the townhome portion of the development. Johnson noted that Outlot K is private
and would be part of the Homeowners Assoc. for the townhomes. This is consistent
with a common interest community and the roads in Outlot K are private. The
townhome area will also require a CUP for the current configuration.
Williams asked about the wording of Condition #17, 18, and 24 per the applicant's
request. Klatt shared the requested language of Condition #17 would be to work with
the engineer to find the best solution for the road alignment, 18 would be that there be
a secondary access to the north and 24 would be that there would be no final plat
approval until the order of the 429 improvements.
Joe Jablonski, Lennar Homes, spoke representing the applicant. Regarding the
discussion of density, he noted that the gross density of the single family area is 2.04
units per acre. The net density is driven up to 3.0 units per acre due to the open space,
storm water facilities, and roads that are included on the site. Regarding different
elevations and architectural styles, Mr. Jablonski highlighted the variety that Lennar
brings in an attempt to avoid redundancy. There are currently 6.1 acres in park land
and that number could go up if the tot lot in the townhome area was included. In terms
of open space and ponding, Jablonski noted that there is 26.6 acres. Regarding 5th
Street, Mr. Jablonski noted that Lennar's vision for 5th Street is very similar to the City's
vision. He noted that the design of the parkway makes a good pedestrian environment.
Moving on, Jablonski spoke about the townhome portion of the plat, noting that there is
sufficient parking to serve the site. He also spoke about Condition #17, pertaining to the
alignment of Streets A and E. He noted that Lennar is opposed to the alignment
because they are concerned that this alignment would encourage speeding.
Dodson asked about the finances of the Common Interest Community. Jablonski noted
that there would be financial reserves for the structures, landscaping, streets and other
elements as dictated by the state of Minnesota.
Morreale noted that it looks like the applicant is proposing a nice community. He
wanted to know who is responsible to maintain a large portion of the landscaping.
Jablonski noted that the open areas would be maintained by the HOA. Home owners
would be responsible to maintain the trees in front of their property.
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Public Hearing opened at 8:35pm.
Wayne Prowse, 697 Julep Ave. N., noted that he would like to talk about density and
parks. He noted that he does not think that it is appropriate for kids to play in the
street. He also noted that he is concerned about the parking facilities in the subdivision.
The second issue that he wanted to discuss was the density included in the proposed
subdivision. He is concerned that the neighborhood will not be a quality environment.
He feels that the neighborhood is too dense.
Greg McGrath, 151h St. Ct., asked where the funding is coming from for the utilities.
Zuleger noted that the extension is being assessed to the property owners. McGrath
asked where the water utility is coming from. Zuleger noted that the temporary solution
is from Oakdale. The system will be hooked up to the Lake Elmo City water system once
water is extended down Inwood Ave. North. McGrath then inquired about the
Landscape Plan of the proposal. He asked who is responsible to ensure performance.
Zuleger noted that the City will not release the financial credit for the landscape plan
until the plan has been fully executed.
Williams asked Staff if there have been any written comments submitted. Klatt stated
that there were no other written comments received.
Nancy
noted
Andert, 697 Julep Ave.
that the sewer will be
N., asked where sewer will be
extended from the Eagle Point
dug to serve the site. Klatt
Business Park along Hudson
Blvd. to Keats Ave. north to a lift station to the north of the
subject
parcel.
Public Hearing closed at 8:48pm
Morreale began the discussion by talking about the City's park system. He noted that
the Stonegate Park is not large enough to serve all of the homes that are prepared for
this area. In addition, he noted that he is concerned about on- street parking. Finally,
Morreale noted that he prefers that the trail follow closer to the Lennar subdivision a!
opposed to closer to the Stonegate neighborhood.
Larson asked if the property to the north could collaborate with Lennar on a larger,
more traditional park to serve the entire area. Zuleger noted that the Parks Commission
made recommendations about adding parkland in the north central area of the Hammes
property. Larson asked if the residents of the proposed development could walk to the
park in the Hammes neighborhood. Staff confirmed that the park that ultimately serves
the Hammes property would be accessible to the residents of the Lennar neighborhood.
Dodson asked about transit facilities that may serve the site. Zuleger noted that 5th
Street would be able to be served by local transit service. Johnson stated that transit
planning is always being evaluated by Metro Transit when Comprehensive Plans are
amended.
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Haggard addressed the comment made by Mr. Prowse, recommending that the City
only allow parking on one side of the street. She said that this recommendation is based
on consideration for public safety and children walking and biking in the neighborhood.
Klatt noted that the City's base standard is a 28' wide street. The City also requires 2 off
street parking spaces per home and additional parking for multi - family. Haggard noted
that she prefers parking on one side of the street only and no overnight parking.
Morreale and Dodson both noted that it is difficult to eliminate on- street parking
completely. Currently the City parking ordinance allows a 48 hour maximum.
Williams noted that he could not find any conditions related to the required permits for
watershed district. Klatt stated that it is part of the engineers report and is covered
under Condition #11.
Kreimer noted that he did not agree with the realignment of Streets A and E. He
suggested deleting Condition #17. Next, Kreimer noted that the Landscape Plan utilized
Linden Trees, which tend to be negatively affected by Asian Beetles. Williams
commented that species should be conditioned upon salt tolerance and other
considerations. Moving on, Kreimer noted that 5th Street may be moved to the South.
He noted that he has concern about moving the plat forward when this issue is not
resolved. Klatt noted that if they have to revise their plat, it would require a public
hearing before the Planning Commission. Kreimer also asked about the alignment of
Street A with the proposed development to the North. Regarding the trail along
Stonegate, Kreimer wanted to ensure that this is moved further south. Kreimer noted
that he feels strongly that there should be more parkland in the neighborhood. He
suggested having a joint park between the Lennar and Hammes.
Haggard asked about parking considerations. Klatt noted that the conditions only
address the items or requirements of the Subdivision Ordinance, Zoning Code, or
Comprehensive Plan that are currently lacking. If the Planning Commission wishes to
have a broader discussion about parking, Klatt recommended evaluating parking City
wide as opposed to subdivision by subdivision.
Zuleger suggested adding to Condition #3 & #4 that the trail in Outlot A be move to the
south closer to the Savona neighborhood. This would meet the spirit of the greenbelt
buffer agreement.
Williams asked for a straw vote.
First, he asked
if there should be more parkland in the
plat. Most of the Commissioners
agreed that more parkland would
be prudent.
Klatt presented information about neighborhood parks vs. regional parks. He also
mentioned that the City was looking for some park dedication money to help fund a
future community sports complex in the Village Area that would serve the entire Lake
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Elmo community.
Klatt also stated that
the park
plan has a suggested ratio
of parkland
dedication based
on national standards
of 11 acres
per 1000 residents.
M /S /P: Williams /Morreale, move to postpone consideration of the Plat until the
Planning Commission receives consultation regarding the parkland from a member of
the Parks Commission, Vote: 5 -1, Motion Carried, with Haggard voting no.
Larson asked if consideration of the parkland will include collaboration with neighboring
properties.
Morreale noted that he is still concerned about the parking issue. Klatt noted that
parking is not directly addressed in the Subdivision Ordinance. He recommended not
making parking regulations subdivision by subdivision. Rather, the City should evaluate
parking ordinances City wide, not neighborhood by neighborhood.
The Planning Commission had consensus regarding the changes related to other
Conditions of the Plat: delete #17 and revise #4.
Business Item: Zoning Text Amendment — Landscape Requirements.
Johnson presented a proposed amendment to the Zoning Ordinance to add a new
section concerning landscaping that will replace three existing sections of the code that
deal with landscaping requirements. Johnson reviewed the existing sections of the
ordinance that address landscaping, including the Subdivision, Site Plan Review, and
Open Space Preservation (OP) Ordinances. He stated that it is important to organize the
landscape requirements into one location in the code.
Johnson reviewed the general outline and requirements of the proposed landscape
ordinance.
Morreale asked if the ordinance requires a minimum caliper measurement of 2.5 inches
versus 1 inch. Johnson replied that the new ordinance specifies minimum sizes of
landscape materials, including trees, in Table 6 -1.
Kreimer asked about a maximum height requirement on the Code. Johnson replied that
this standard is referencing a situation with a berm. He also asked who would be
responsible to replace dead trees planted by the developer on private lots. Johnson
noted that he would look into other options related to the timing of tree installation.
Dodson expressed concern over the approval of landscaping plans and how a developer
could be held responsible for this work once their project is completed. Dodson asked if
the ordinance could address situations in which a developer prefers to keep more open
space or to restore native prairie areas, and if the City can require developers to plant
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trees that are native to Minnesota. Johnson explained that he would research this
issue.
Williams commented that the correct plant species for the correct area should be an
important consideration of the ordinance.
The Commission requested clarification on some of the specific aspects of the draft
ordinance, and requested that Staff provide a red -lined version of the ordinance with
any changes made by Staff prior to further discussion on this matter.
Updates and Concerns
There will be a special Planning Commission meeting on July 29`h. The Lennar
Development will be brought back and the staff will make an effort to have Parks
Commission Chair Weiss and others there.
Council update
Council Update —The City Council adopted the Administrative and Enforcement
Ordinance at the July 2nd meeting with some minor changes. They removed the design
and demolition standards until the design standards manual is done.
The City
Council adopted the fence
ordinance at the July 16th
meeting with some minor
changes
regarding solid wall fences
up to 6 feet on properties
smaller than % acre.
The City Council approved plans and specifications for the section 34 utility project at
the July 16th meeting.
Meeting adjourned at 10:15pm
Respectfully submitted,
Nick Johnson
Planner
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