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City of Lake Elmo
Planning Commission Meeting
Minutes of January 14, 2013
Chairman Williams called to order the workshop of the Lake Elmo Planning Commission
at 7:00pm
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Fliflet, Obermueller, Larson, Kreimer, Reeves, Morreale,
Haggard and Williams;
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Hall and Haggard;
STAFF PRESENT: Administrator Zuleger, Planning Director Klatt and City Planner Johnson
Election of Officers:
M/S/P: Reeves/Kreimer motion to nominate Todd Williams as Chairman of the Planning
Commission; motion carried: Vote: 7-0.
M/S/P: Williams/Kreimer motion to nominate Julie Fliflet as Vice Chairwoman of the
Planning Commission; motion carried: Vote: 7-0.
M/S/P: Williams/Reeves motion to nominate Tom Kreimer as Secretary of the Planning
Commission; motion carried: Vote: 7-0.
Approve Agenda:
Chairman Williams added a discussion about parliamentary procedure to the Agenda
before the approval of the minutes.
Parliamentary Procedure Discussion
Chairman Williams handed out an informational handout regarding Robert’s Rules of
Order. He noted that the Planning Commission generally follows Robert’s Rules for
guidance. In addition, Williams declared his intention to vote on all matters, being that
he is the Chairman. Also, he noted that members should not vote for items or minutes
at which they did not attend. Finally, Williams noted that in Robert’s Rules, an
abstention vote is the same as voting no. If a Commissioner wishes to not vote on an
item, then they should simply not vote as opposed to abstain. The Commission engaged
in a discussion regarding voting. To wrap up, Administrator Zuleger noted that tabling
an agenda items signals the Planning Commission’s intention to return to that item later
in the meeting. If the Commission wishes to put off an agenda item to the next
meeting, than the correct action is to postpone the discussion of the item.
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Approve Minutes: December 10, 2012
Chairman Williams suggested one change pertaining to the discussion of the Subdivision
Ordinance.
Williams moved to accept the minute of December 10, 2012 as amended; Vote: 7-0.
Approve Minutes: December 18, 2012
Minutes were accepted as presented.
Public Hearing Item: Variance – 3549 Lake Elmo Ave N. (Christ Lutheran Church)
Klatt presented a summary of the request. The request includes a variance for lot size
and lot width. The minimum lot size in the GB Zoning District is 1.5 acres, and the
minimum lot width in the GB Zoning District is 150’. After describing the request, Klatt
shared some information and history about the site. The site is 0.79 acres, and is larger
than many of the parcels in the downtown or Village. In addition, he presented a
snapshot of the area surrounding Christ Lutheran Ch urch.
Moving on, Klatt explained where the proposed minor subdivision would occur. The
parcel would be split so that the Church retained the parking stalls on the northern half
of the parking lot, as well as the stormwater retention area. The southern half of the lot
would stay with the commercial property to the south. The resulting properties would
be 0.25 acres and 0.54 acres.
In terms of the reason for the request, the Church has noted that a potential buyer is
only interested in half of the parking area. Klatt explained that the amount of parking
required depends on the use of the building. Whatever the ultimate use becomes of the
former bank building, Staff is confident that there is enough parking to address the
needs of the commercial building. If there is a scenario where more parking is needed,
Klatt noted that Staff recommends that the Church and the user of the former bank
property should enter a shared parking agreement.
Klatt finished his presentation by noting that Staff is recommendin g approval of the
Variance with the condition that the applicant seek a shared parking agreement with
the future user of the former bank building.
Fliflet asked if the shared parking agreement can be structures in a way that the portion
of the lot that would be grouped with the commercial user can also be used by the
Church. Klatt noted that the agreement could be structured in such way.
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Reeves asked if the City would be locked into this variance if the sale of the former bank
building fell through. Klatt noted that the shared parking agreement would be recorded
on the deed on the former bank building at the time of the split.
Morreale asked what the property could be used for if the future owner was interested
in some other use than parking. Klatt noted that under the current zoning, the parcel
would not be considered a buildable lot. If the zoning was to change and the parcel was
sewered, than the minimum standards would change.
Obermueller asked about procedural items related to deeds and minor subdivisions.
Mr. Jim Kelly, Christ Lutheran Church, explained the reason for the variance request. He
noted that the size of the former bank parcel affects the purchase price for the potential
buyer.
Reeves asked if the applicant knew how many parkin g stalls the potential buyer typically
uses in a day.
Mr. Kelly noted that the potential buyer’s business does not attract large amounts of
walk-up traffic. The potential buyer has noted that the parking would primarily be used
for a limited number of employees that work at the business.
Fliflet asked about the amount of parking that is used at peak times for the Church. Mr.
Kelly noted that a majority of the church-retained portion of the lot has been used at
large services such as Christmas or Easter.
Williams asked if the Church investigated the option of using an easement over the
parking area as opposed to splitting the parcel and the proceeding with the sale. Mr.
Kelly noted that the Church is interested in the long-term control of the property.
Williams also asked if the property is currently tax exempt.
Public Hearing opened at 7:43pm
Williams read a letter into the record from Kathy Weeks, 3647 Lake Elmo Ave. North.
Public Hearing closed at 7:44pm
Obermueller commented that the Church portion of the parking lot may need lighting in
the future. She asked that the Church consider including lighting that is consistent with
the theming of the downtown area. Klatt noted that the Planning Commission can make
a separate motion to encourage the Church to include lighting that is consistent with
downtown design or theming.
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M/S/P: Reeves/Larson, move to recommend approval of the variance with condition
that Church record a reciprocal shared parking agreement with the commercial
property, Vote: 6-1 with Williams voting no.
Williams noted that he is opposed to the subdivision of a non -conforming parcel into
two, smaller non-conforming parcels. He added that a reciprocal shared parking
agreement could be recorded between the property-owner after the fact. He noted
that he is not in favor of the motion as it stands now.
Fliflet noted that her concerns have been relieved in that the minimum lot standards in
the current zoning district reflect lots that are not sewered. Given that the sewer is
coming to the Village, she feels that the variance is appropriate. In addition, she
supports bringing activity to the downtown that needs additional activity. Kreimer
noted that other businesses have a lot less parking than the former bank building would
have.
Public Hearing Item: Conditional Use Permit – Valley Branch Watershed District: Raleigh
Creek Culvert Removal
Nick Johnson presented staff report and recommendation concerning a request from
the Valley Branch Watershed District to remove a culvert located along Raleigh Creek at
28th Street. The request is for a Conditional Use Permit, which is required in order to
perform grading work within a Floodplain District.
Fliflet asked about the need for future access to the site. Johnson noted there is one
additional buildable lot, but no other land that would need access (most of the land is
unbuildable).
Reeves asked if there might be any unforeseen City costs associated with the project.
Staff noted that the City Engineer has reviewed the projects and did not anticipate any
unusual city costs.
Nathan Campeau of Barr Engineering, representing the Valley Branch Watershed
District, had the opportunity to speak as the applicant. He d iscussed schedule of the
project, with the work likely being done in late summer. The VBWD is hoping to do
work when the flow in the creek is seasonally dry to minimize potential erosion control
issues.
Williams opened the Public Hearing at 8:10 p.m.
Glen Wickleman, 9065 28th St. N., spoke in favor of the project.
Jim Palacek, 2798 Jamley Ave. N., spoke in favor of the project, noting that his trees
have been flooded out during the winter due to freezing in the culvert.
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Tom Regan, 8875 27th St. N., provided some background history of the culvert and spoke
in favor of the project.
Williams closed the Public Hearing at 8:17 p.m.
M/S/P: Fliflet/Kreimer, move to recommend approval of the Conditional Use Permit,
Vote: 7-0.
Business Item: Zoning Text Amendment – Planned Unit Development (PUD) Ordinance
Nick summarized discussion from previous meeting and reviewed the objectives for the
proposed amendments to the PUD ordinance. The proposed ordinance include three
major changes, including the addition of identifiable objectives for granting exceptions,
potential density bonus for projects that meet certain criteria, and a listing of preferred
site amenities related to the bonus.
Reeves would like to see the identified objectives better tied to the amenities required
for density bonus.
Williams asked Chief Malmquist to discuss which structures require sprinkler systems.
Malmquist noted that under the fire code, single family and twin homes are not
required to have a sprinkler system as long as they are under a certain square footage.
Malmquist noted that sprinklers will help contain fires, save property and lead to lower
insurance rates. He noted that the improvements necessary to add sprinklers to single
family homes are relatively minor in terms of cost compared to other work within a
residential structure.
Williams suggested that the Planning Commission review the proposed ordinance
section by section.
In §800 of the ordinance, the Planning Commission had no comments or concerns.
Regarding §801, Williams asked if the identified objectives should be listed in order of
preference. Johnson noted that the objectives do not need to be listed by priority
because it is the responsibility of the developers to address which objectives their
proposed development is meeting.
Reeves asked if it would read better if the primary objectives were highlighted, followed
by descriptions. Johnson noted that that could definitely help.
Williams noted that language within item B, “corridors and transitional areas”, should
be removed. The Planning Commission supported this proposal.
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Williams suggested that Staff clarify item D.
Williams suggested that “adaptive reuse” be removed from item F.
For item G, Williams suggested compatibility be stressed within and outside of the
development. The Planning Commission followed with a discussion on the intent of
provision. Reeves suggested keeping language more general.
In item J, Williams noted an editorial change of removing the unnecessary “and”.
Finally, Williams suggested adding a final objective “K” to encourage the inclusion of
certain site amenities that are not otherwise specified by this ordinance or other areas
of the Code. Reeves shared his concern with this objective potentially being the only
objective for which that the applicant complied. He suggested that additional amenities
could be considered with the other site amenities in the density sections to keep the
ordinance consistent.
In item C of §802, Kreimer noted his concern related to the size of the bonus and the
ability of developers to exceed the ultimate number of residential units contained
within the City’s land use plans. Johnson reviewed the general development process
and explained that Staff can track the number of residential units that are added as
projects come forward. Further down the line, the City will have the opportunity to
adjust its Comprehensive Land Use Plan to reduce the amount of units if the City is
projecting that more residential units will be added than previously agreed to. Fliflet
also noted that she has some concern that the 20% might be too much additional
density.
Reeves suggested that the number of amenities points be more limited and restricted to
things that are only in the identified objectives.
Fliflet noted her concern regarding the objective for open space, noting that clustering
would allow more density which might not be the ultimate objective. The Planning
Commission and Staff engaged in a general discussion regarding the requirements for
open space.
There was additional discussion pertaining to density and floor ratio bonuses.
Obermueller expressed her concern that the bonuses may lead to development that
does not meet expectations for Lake Elmo. Klatt suggested that PC consider 20% with
additional clarification from Staff regarding the relationship of a planned development
to the Comprehensive Plan and Memorandum of Understanding with the Metropolitan
Council. Additional discussion followed about incentives and how to incorporate them
into the Code.
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Regarding §803 of the ordinance, Williams suggested that the minimum lot area should
be larger than 5 acres, particularly for the I-94 Corridor. He suggested a minimum of 20
acres. The Planning Commission discussed the proposal and determined that 5 acres
seemed like a reasonable minimum area.
Fliflet expressed her concern with density bonuses and how they will apply on a site by
site basis. She noted that the actual impact of the amenities will depend on the specific
site. Reeves shared that some of the descriptors or standards for the amenities are hard
to pin down. He also wanted to know how the City can greater incentivize more of the
objectives verses the specific site amenities. Johnson noted that some of the standards
are more easily quantified while others may be more subjective.
Kreimer noted that he would like to see the language of “maximum density increase”,
and the number of amenity points awarded should be subject to Planning
Commission/Council review (i.e. points could be assigned a little lower). Staff expressed
concern with the process being subjective when different levels of points may be
awarded for the same amenity type. Klatt noted that this approach relies on Staff to
make judgment calls.
Williams asked if any other amenities should be discussed. They included the following:
Underground Parking (10) – Larson felt that a range of numbers is more
appropriate.
Historic preservation (10) – There was a general consensus that this was worthy
of 10 points.
Open Space (10)
Public ROW Dedication (10)
LEED Standards (5)
Pedestrian Improvements (5)
Adaptive Reuse (5)
Plaza (5) – The Planning Commission suggested that Staff consider a minimum
standard rather than percentage.
Enhanced Storm Water Management (3) – Planning Commission suggested that
Staff make this standard more general, as opposed to solely rain gardens.
Theming – Johnson explained that this standard may be better suited to a range
approach as far as the number of amenity points is concerned.
Natural features (3)
Landscaping (5) – Williams thought that landscaping could be a range up to 5
points.
Fliflet would like to see more of a range for all of the amenities.
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Larson asked if farmland preservation could be included as a separate amenity. There
should be some bonus for farming within a development.
The Planning Commission wrapped up its discussion of the PUD Ordinance for the
evening. Williams suggested postponing the ordinance for further consideration until
next meeting
M/S/P: Williams/Fliflet, move to postpone consideration on PUD Ordinance until next
available Planning Commission meeting, Vote: 7-0.
Business Item: 2012 Community Development Department Annual Report
The Planning Commission suggested reviewing the report at the next meeting. Klatt will
present the report at the next meeting.
Updates and Concerns - None
Meeting adjourned at 10:56p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Nick Johnson
Planner