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Lake Elmo Planning Commission Minutes; 7-9-12
City of Lake Elmo
Planning Commission Meeting
Minutes of July 9, 2012
Secretary Hall called to order the meeting of the Lake Elmo Planning Commission at
7:00pm.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Hall, Obermueller, Ziertman, Pelletier, and Bloyer;
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Williams, Fliflet, and Haggard;
STAFF PRESENT: City Planner Johnson.
Approve Agenda:
MSP: Ziertman/Bloyer motion to approve the agenda. Vote: 4-0
Approve Minutes:
May 30, 2012- M/S/P: Bloyer/Obermueller motion to approve the minutes as presented.
Vote: 3-0, with Commissioner Ziertman abstaining.
June 25, 2012-Commissioner Obermueller asked that the minutes reflect that she did
not make a statement about the disposable income of seniors when making housing
choices.
M/S/P: Bloyer/Obermueller motion to approve as amended. Vote: 3-0, with
Commissioner Ziertman abstaining.
Business Item: Housing Density
Planner Johnson explained the purpose of the density workshop. It is intended to make
the Planning Commission and members of the community more familiar with how
housing density translates to the built form. This familiarity will be important moving
forward when reviewing the upcoming Comprehensive Plan Amendments an d zoning
code updates.
Planner Johnson then administered a density quiz from a planning presentation in Palo
Alto, CA. The purpose of the quiz was to provide an introduction into the density
workshop.
Moving on from the density quiz, Planner Johnson went on to describe the densities of
housing developments in a local context. The neighborhoods studied in this analysis
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include the Lake DeMontreville area, Old Village, Carriage Station, and other housing
developments in surrounding Stillwater, Oak Park Heights, and Woodbury. After the
presentation, the forum was opened to discussion about density.
Related to the density quiz, Commissioner Pelletier noted that viewing a housing
development from a photo of one side angle can be quite deceiving in terms of guessing
the density.
Planner Johnson noted that many of the development in the quiz were denser because
they were built on small parcels of land with similarly small setbacks. In addition, more
recent developments have larger on-site parking requirements as opposed to older
developments that utilized on-street parking. Accounting for parking on-site tends to
lower the density level.
Business Item: Zoning Code Update
Planner Johnson explained that the purpose of this update is to prepare the Plannin g
Commission for the upcoming public hearing related to the review of the new zoning
districts and code updates for the I-94 Corridor and Old village. Staff is focused on
making the zoning code more streamlined and simplistic as opposed to making it more
robust. He noted that many of the current zoning districts will remain the same, with
others undergoing subtle changes in name only. The new zoning districts , specifically
the low, medium, and high density residential districts, will apply to both the I-94
Corridor and Old Village. The densities of the residential districts are 2-4 units/acre (low
density), 4-7 units/acre (medium density), and 7-25 units/acre (high density). Any
residential project over the 25 units/acre density must be approved through a Planned
Unit Development (PUD) process.
Commissioner Bloyer wanted to know how disagreements from residents about the
land use and densities are addressed when the Comprehensive Plan amendment comes
before the Planning Commission for approval.
Planner Johnson noted that the City has undertaken a planning process that has
provided residents with many opportunities to engage and share their feelings on the
land use plans. Several public meetings have been held for both the I-94 Corridor and
Old Village land use plans. In addition, the meetings of the Work Groups that drafted
these plans were always made public and posted on the City’s website. It is the goal of
any public process to get as much input as possible before these plans come before the
Planning Commission and City Council.
Planner Johnson went on to describe the rest of the proposed changes to the zoning
code. The update includes come proposed changes to the commercial districts in Lake
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Elmo, including the provision of a convenience commercial district, intended to be
utilized in areas with a lot of through traffic.
Commissioner Obermueller asked how this code update related to the possibility of
implementing a form based code in the Old Village in the future.
Planner Johnson explained that the form based code could be utilized as an overlay
district, or could replace the base zoning districts entirely in the future.
Commissioner Pelletier asked about the zoning districts interact with safety near
roadways.
Planner Johnson explained that the zoning code does not interact with pedestrian
safety. Safety near roadways should be addressed in the land use planning within the
Comprehensive Plan process.
Finally, Planner Johnson noted that the existing Business Park district will include light
manufacturing as a possible use. This is a change from the existing BP district.
City Council Updates
Country Sun Farms – City Council authorized construction of two additional accessory
buildings. Authorization was necessary as part of the agreement pertaining to the
farm’s Interim Use Permit.
Staff Updates
Planning Commission Meeting, July23, 2012 – This meeting will include the public
hearing pertaining to the submission of the Comprehensive Plan amendment and zoning
code update for the I-94 Corridor.
Public Hearing Schedule – The schedule for the upcoming public hearings was outlined
to prepare the Planning Commission for the next four months of meetings.
Commission Concerns
None
Adjournment at 7:42pm
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Respectfully submitted,
Nick Johnson
City Planner