HomeMy WebLinkAboutPZ Minutes 11-10-14Lake Elmo Planning Commission Minutes; 11-10-14
City of Lake Elmo
Planning Commission Meeting
Minutes of November 10, 2014
Chairman Williams called to order the meeting of the Lake Elmo Planning Commission at
7:00 p.m.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Williams, Dodson, Kreimer, Larson, Lundgren, Dorschner
and Haggard.
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: City Administrator Zuleger and City Planner Johnson
Approve Agenda:
The agenda was accepted as presented.
Approve Minutes:
October 13, 2014:
The planning commission discussed multiple changes.
M/S/P: Haggard/Lundgren move to approve the minutes of September 13th as
amended; Vote: 7-0, motion carried unanimously.
October 27, 2014:
M/S/P: Williams/Dodson move to approve the minutes of September 27th as amended;
Vote: 7-0, motion carried unanimously.
Business Items: Downtown Redevelopment Plan
Johnson began his presentation. Zuleger clarified the purpose behind th e economic
development district and noted that the EDA has not made any final decisions with
regards to tax increment financing.
Johnson provided information describing how the redevelopment plan is consistent with
the goals of the City’s Comprehensive Plan.
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Zuleger presented the roster of the Economic Development Authority, describing all the
members and all of their backgrounds. He noted that the EDA has focused on downtown
redevelopment, as they have concluded that the I-94 Corridor will develop based on
market conditions without any public incentives or involvement. The EDA falls under
state statute 469. With regards to downtown, many of the properties meet the state
standard for substandard or “blight”. There are many vacant lots, as well as vacant
space within buildings. The current status of downtown leads to a redevelopment TIF, if
any were to be used.
Zuleger moved on to describe the checks and balances that are in place for the
Economic Development Authority. The Planning Commission reviews all land use
recommendations for consistency with the Comprehensive Plan. The City Council has
authority over all spending decisions.
Zuleger then described how Tax Increment Financing works. At this time, TIF would only
be used for infrastructure projects such as streets, sewer, water, stormwater, etc. He
presented an example of the downtown area and necessary stormwater improvements,
noting how TIf could be leveraged to help pay for the improvements.
Dodson asked about the potential negatives if the additional value is not realized.
Zuleger noted that he does not recommend using TIF without a large project in hand.
Lundgren asked about the impact to the school district. Zuleger stated that the school
district gets paid on the base amount, but not the incremental amount. Lundgren asked
if Zuleger was part of EDA. He said he was not part of the EDA, only there as staff. The
EDA has met 6 times. Beckie Gumatz attends regularly, with Finance Director Bendel in
attendance on a few occasions.
Williams asked why the City would not just issue general obligation bonds to pay for the
improvements. Zuleger noted that cities get 10 additional years to pay the debt service
with a redevelopment TIF.
Dorschner stated that if there is more walkability, it would be more desirable for
businesses. The City may need to set the stage to attract more businesses to invest in
downtown.
Lundgren requested that the minutes of the Economic Development Authority be sent
to the Planning Commission. Staff will get the minutes and meeting agendas of the EDA
up on the website.
Williams noted that he does not feel that the plan only applies to the mixed use area
and feels it is ambiguous in regards to the residential.
Zuleger clarified that the TIF district would be a subset of the Redevelopment Plan.
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Lundgren noted that she feels she needs more information. She recommends tabling
the item.
Dodson was confused about the “project #1 is”. Zuleger stated that project number one
is to study how we want to do things. If we want to use TIF or bonds, etc. Project #1 is a
gather requirements project.
Dorschner asked for clarification. Zuleger stated that the Planning Commission is being
asked to look at the land use of the plan.
A number of Planning Commission members disagreed with this assessment.
Haggard noted that she is concerned that the project plan does not reference the roles
of the City Council or Planning Commission. She feels that they should have been given
more information as the EDA was being formed and should have been provided the
applicable state statutes.
Williams suggested that the written opinion of the Planning Commission come back
before the body before it is presented to the City Council and EDA.
Dorschner noted that he would like everyone to place greater trust in the financial and
business background of the people on the EDA to recruit quality businesses.
Williams suggested going through the document to identify areas of question or concern
about the plan.
Haggard noted that TIF is frequently cited. Williams agreed that it should be removed
until TIF is determined.
Dodson asked for greater clarity on the objectives. Zuleger highlighted the stated
objectives. He suggested that the scope needs to be further clarified. “The City is going
to study X, Y and Z”
Haggard asked about the difference between a redevelopment plan and an economic
development district. Zuleger explained that the language is from state statute.
Williams requested that all references to TIF be removed until it is being proposed for a
project.
There was a discussion about business recruitment and the expertise of the EDA.
Haggard asked about how marginal properties are designated or identified. Zuleger
explained that the state has standards related to vacancy or disrepair.
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Haggard noted concern about the paragraph that makes it sound like the EDA has full
authority. Zuleger stated that anything the EDA does, the City Council has to approve.
Williams feels that the words industry and manufacturing is inconsistent with the
Comprehensive Plan. It is not allowed in I94, so certainly should not be allowed in
Village. Williams would like this wording replaced with Commerce. Williams pointed
out that there is not chronic unemployment in the Village area either. He also doesn’t
like the word “housing” as it is too general. Commission agreed to make it multi-family
housing.
Williams dislikes the term highest and best use. He feels it is very subjective. Johnson
noted it is a legal term. Williams noted concern that the study is a blank check. Dodson
agreed that the 1st project should be studying what tools are best for the city for
redevelopment before adoption of the redevelopment.
Larson spoke in support of the EDA functions and TIF. He noted that it is a tool to
provide and focus the resources in solving impediments to redevelopment downtown.
The “but for” clause was discussed. It is the philosophy of TIF. “But for” TIF, the
property would not develop.
Williams noted that he feels that the city does not know the development pot ential of
the downtown yet. Perhaps we are putting the cart before the horse. Dodson noted
that it may be good to have the tool at disposal when a project presents itself.
Zuleger stated that based on the studies done by U of M and other outside agencies, the
types of businesses we might attract is somewhat limited due to competition of
surrounding communities.
Takeaways for Zuleger are that the language of the plan needs to be cleaned up to
better reflect the Village Land Use Plan, 2) the Planning Commission needs to become
more familiar with the EDA and their purpose. Zuleger recommends a joint meeting with
the EDA.
Williams asked if it would be too restrictive to limit the use of TIF to only bigger projects.
Zuleger noted that the planning commission can recommend to the EDA and City
Council that the City not use TIF speculatively.
Dodson asked Zuleger if there would be timelines on the project plan. Zuleger noted
that he would like to have economic development tools in place before construction for
the streets and storm sewer in 2015/16.
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Williams asked why the EDA is better in this regard than the City Council? Zuleger listed
three reasons. 1) It is a calling card for commerce, 2) It allows for multiple financing
mechanisms and 3) It has the ability to buy/sell/condemn property in problem areas.
Johnson added the ability to recruit people with economic development expertise is an
advantage.
M/S/P: Williams/Dodson, move to postpone consideration of the document until the
Planning Commission receives an updated version of the redevelopment plan, Vote: 7-0.
Updates and Concerns
Council Updates
1. Reviewed rural area anlaysis.
Staff Updates
With Holidays, please let staff know if you won’t be attending the next meetings. There
will only be one meeting in December.
Commission Concerns –
Discussion about the temporary signage at the smoke shop . Now they have the truck
and should not be allowed. Johnson stated that it is an ongoing problem and the Staff is
working on it.
Meeting adjourned at 9:25 pm
Respectfully submitted,
Joan Ziertman
Planning Program Assistant