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City of Lake Elmo
Planning Commission Meeting
Minutes of March 9, 2015
Chairman Dodson called to order the meeting of the Lake Elmo Planning Commission at
7:00 p.m.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Williams, Dodson, Kreimer, Griffin, Larson and Dorschner
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Haggard
STAFF PRESENT: Community Development Director Klatt, City Planner Johnson and City
Engineer Griffin
Approve Agenda:
The agenda was accepted as presented.
Approve Minutes: February 23, 2015
M/S/P: Williams/Dorschner, move to approve minutes as amended, Vote: 5-0, motion
carried, with Griffin not voting.
Business Item: Wildflower at Lake Elmo cont.
Klatt noted that the application before the Planning Commission is a Preliminary Plat
and Preliminary PUD Plan for the Wildflower at Lake Elmo. The Planning Commission
held a public hearing on February 23, 2015. The Planning Commission postponed
consideration of the application to collect additional information on the following: 1)
Raingardens and specifically how many 2) Could the road widths be expanded in place
of Raingardens 3) Narrow streets and what are specific problems associated with them
4) Fields of St. Croix drainfield and if there are problems with directing water across it 5)
drainage issue near the Krueger property and if there are any issues with the culvert and
flooding in this area.
Regarding the culvert on Lake Elmo Ave., the Valley Branch Watershed District engineer,
John Hanson, noted that the flooding condition related to the Krueger property is more
related to an existing condition. He was confident that the condition would not be made
worse by the Wildflower development. Williams asked if staff had contacted
Washington County regarding the culvert. Klatt noted that he did not contact
Washington County Public Works.
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Regarding the Fields of St. Croix drainfield, Klatt noted that the 100-year flood elevation
of Goetschel Pond is 908. The drainfield is located at a significantly higher elevation than
the 100-year flood elevation. Klatt noted that there does not appear to be any threat of
inundation of the drainfield based upon these elevations. Mr. Pace of Fields of St. Croix
spoke that staff is correct on the elevations, and there does not appear to be a threat.
Williams asked about some properties that previously shared the need to pump water
out of their basements, at times utilizing a sump pump. Klatt noted that the area of note
with regards to pumping is further to the south.
In discussing the setback from the Eischen well to the stormwater facility, Klatt noted
that the MN Dept. of Health has clear setbacks for wells from wet basins. The Eischen
well is located outside of the required setback. Klatt also noted that the low floor
elevation of the Eischen home meets the required 2 foot separation from the storm
water facility.
With regards to the number of rain gardens within the development, the applicant has
agreed to remove the rain gardens from the right of way. The condition of approval
would still allow the applicant to investigate specific locations for rain gardens with the
approval of the City Engineer. Dodson asked the City Engineer about the maintenance
costs associated with rain gardens. Jack Griffin noted th at exact costs are not available,
as the City only maintains 3 gardens at this time. Generally rain gardens are desired to
retain water in the local water sheds, but the City has no standards established to
ensure a no failure rate.
Street widths were discussed, noting that public works and emergency services do not
support narrow streets for access and maneuverability concerns. Klatt recommended
that the condition remain in place and the applicant meet with the appropriate staff for
final design.
Additional neighbor concerns - Mary Jean Dupuis requested that the nearby grass trail
be eliminated from the plan. Staff has included an alternate condition should the
Planning Commission support the request of the Dupuis family. Staff does not have a
strong preference about this request. Klatt noted that the HOA will own the property,
and the City has limited ability to not allow a mowed trail. Williams asked about
screening and plantings. Klatt noted that plantings have been installed and are shown
on plans. Richard Smith noted two major concerns: 1) timing and location of sewer
connection and 2) access road to the property. Staff is recommending that the utility
plans be updated to show stub to smith property, and that a condition be added
regarding the driveway. Smith also did express concern about future subdivision of the
outlot near his property. Klatt noted that staff would contact City Attorney to discuss
the addition of a covenant or condition. The Planning Commission asked if all outlots
would be a concern for future subdivision. Klatt noted that there are conservation
easements that would need to be vacated, and many of the outlots include stormwater
facilities, which is integral infrastructure.
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Regarding the flood zones, the VBWD noted that they may take the lead in updating the
FEMA maps for this area. Staff will draft a letter of support for VBWD to take the lead.
Dodson asked how much time it would take to complete the update. Klatt noted not
weeks, much longer, but before the 3rd phase of the development comes forward.
MnDOT sent comments that are pretty boiler plate review language of when MnDOT
permits would be required.
Klatt presented the proposed findings and conditions of approval. Two findings were
added by the Planning Commission, that an exception to the length of a cul-de-sac is
justified based on the unique circumstances of the property and the development and
that the change in Outlots O and P of the Fields of St. Croix is justified because the
developer is providing much larger open space areas as part of Wildflower at Lake Elmo.
Williams asked if the MN Land Trust was party to the conservation easements on
Outlots O and P of Fields of St. Croix. Klatt confirmed that they were not party to those
easements.
Klatt noted that staff is recommending approval of the Wildflower Preliminary Plat and
Preliminary PUD Plan with the recommended 20 conditions. Staff recommends deleting
condition #2 and add Condition #20 as it relates to the smith driveway . The Commission
needs to decide if condition #21, relating to the removal of the grass trail in Outlot H,
should be added.
Dodson asked about conservation easements and the resulting tax situation if only the
City is party to the easement as opposed to MN Land Trust. Engstrom stated that the
Minnesota Land trust only applies to Phase I of the development.
Engstrom discussed the proposed mowed path through Outlot H. Larson noted that the
City has successful trails that are mowed paths in Sunfish Lake Park.
Williams asked if there were additional locations in HOA owned outlots that could have
rain gardens. Williams felt that these could be a benefit to the pollinators as well.
Engstrom noted that if they find the correct locations in other places, th ey are not
opposed to adding some rain gardens.
Dodson began the discussion by talking about condition #20, the restriction on Outlot G.
The Commission would like stronger language to protect it like the other outlots to
prohibit any future splitting of the outlot. Williams wanted a separate condition.
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M/S/P: Williams/Dodson, move to require the developer and the City to establish a
legally binding agreement to prevent further residential or commercial development of
all outlots, Vote: 6-0, motion carried unanimously.
The Planning Commission discussed the trail near the Dupuis property.
M/S/P: Williams/Larson, move to strike condition #21 related to the removal of the trail
near the Dupuis property, Vote: 6-0, motion carried unanimously.
M/S/P: Williams/Dorschner, move to strike condition #2, Vote: 6-0, motion carried
unanimously.
M/S/P: Williams/Dorschner, move to amend condition #3 to require the developer to
submit temporary easements to the City prior to grading activity, Vote: 6-0, motion
carried unanimously.
Condition #3 will now read: Prior to any grading activity, the developer shall submit to
the City temporary grading easements from the owner of the lots adjacent to Layton
Avenue within the Brookman Addition in order to construct the improvements within
this right-of-way as documented in the preliminary construction plans.
There was a discussion about rain gardens.
M/S/P: Dorschner/Kreimer, move to recommend approval of the Wildflower Preliminary
Plat and Preliminary PUD Plan with the 21 conditions of approval and the findings of fact
as drafted by staff and amended by the Planning Commission, Vote: 6-0, motion carried
unanimously.
Williams suggested a minor amendment to condition #8 and finding #7 that were
grammatical. Dorschner and Kreimer accepted as friendly amendment.
Public Hearing: Boulder Ponds – Zoning Map Amendment, Final Plat and Final PUD
Plan.
Planner Johnson presented an overview of a proposed Final Plat, Final PUD Plan, and
Zoning Map Amendment associated with a proposed mixed use development to be
called Boulder Ponds. He noted that the final plat includes 47 single-family residential
lots and represents a portion of the overall area included as part of the development
project.
Critical issues are 1) additional easements are required along public ROW and outlots 2)
Outlots D,E,G, and L must be dedicated to the City for stormwater facilities 3) written
approval from SWWD for modifications to Surface Water Management Plan 4) all
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grading, drainage, erosion control, surface water management and utility and street
plans approved by City Engineer prior to release of final plat for recording.
Johnson stated that Staff is recommending approval of the Final Plat and Final PUD
Plans with 11 conditions, in addition to recommending approval of the zoning map
amendments.
Williams questioned preliminary plat condition number 9 concerning the width of the
trail. He stated that the developer has indicated that the plans have been updated to
reflect the City’s request. Johnson noted that the City has been working to establish
standards for trail widths, and that the review indicated that the trail width has not yet
been reduced.
Williams asked that the completion of 5th Street be tied to the Inwood Development or
the platting of Boulder Ponds. Johnson stated that Staff has insisted that the timing of
major infrastructure improvements be tied to the amount of development as it occur.
Under State Statute, there must be some proportionality between the amount of
infrastructure that the City is requiring and the amount of traffic/development. In this
case, Staff is agreeing with the developer that the phasing as proposed by the developer
is reasonable given amount of work included with the first ph ase.
Kreimer questioned whether or not the small triangle related to the 5th Street right-of-
way on the eastern edge of the plat had been transferred to Boulder Ponds. Johnson
confirmed that this lot line adjustment and subsequent transfer of property ha s
occurred.
Kriemer asked about the required driveway setback from street intersections where
there is a minor collector road. Engineer Griffin stated that on residential streets, no
standard has been established. Engineer Griffin also stated that it is a common
occurrence to have driveways near the entrance of a development, but he would not
dispute that it can create traffic issues.
Dorschner questions about how to access lots adjacent to the center median in the
neighborhood. Staff response was that they would make a U-turn around the median.
Engineer Griffin stated that it is a residential road where those turns would be common.
Kreimer asked about the visibility of intersection adjacent to the medians. Johnson
noted that this was a concern noted by Staff in the preliminary plat review, and that this
could be further reviewed as part of the City’s final construction plan review.
Williams asked why a condition was not included specific to the City’s theming study.
Johnson stated there was no reason it isn’t a specific condition.
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Williams asked about the purpose of the “lot book” and whether or not this would be
used as a basis for building approvals. Johnson indicated that the book would be used
by Staff to review the location of homes associates with individual building permits.
Steve Slettner, Consulting Engineer with SEH, discussed the lot book. He noted that this
would be the first City that this has been a requirement. He further stated that the book
is a tool for helping ensure that the grading, housing type, and setbacks are addressed
properly for each lot. This will help ensure that the rea ltors, builders, and City all are
aware of the lot requirements in advance of any construction.
Deb Ridgeway, OP4 Boulder Ponds, spoke regarding the theming and amenities.
Williams feels that all developments in the City should be following the Lake Elmo
theming to bring continuity and commonality to the City. Klatt stated that since the
theming was not a condition of approval at preliminary plat, at this point, the most they
could do would be to suggest or encourage it, but not mandate it.
Ridgeway stated that they hope to be back for phase II in a year, but of course that is
dependent on sales. Creative Homes will be the builder for phase I and have first right
of purchase for phase II.
Kreimer suggested a condition that the developer is strongly encouraged to use high
quality materials and use four-sided architecture throughout the project area. He noted
that this means that the developer would need to add windows and trim to the sides
and rear of homes. The Commission generally noted that the submitted home drawings
did not meet this objective.
Dodson felt there was some degree of disconnect with the PUD when there is no
defined architecture. His concern comes from the fact that the developer is not the
builder. Ridgeway stated that this builder has 2 homes in the parade of homes and she
would encourage them to tour those. She also stated that they have a good working
relationship with builder and can strongly encourage the 4 sided architecture. They will
also set up the HOA and covenants and can regulate the architectural standards.
Public Hearing opened at 8:33 pm
No one spoke and no written comment was received.
Public Hearing closed at 8:33 pm
Slettner indicated that the proposed development will allow more options for creativity
along the side and rear of homes because of the coving. He noted that other
developments do not necessitate this level of design because they are all on rectangular
lots.
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Williams suggested a condition of approval: Applicant is encouraged to incorporate
multi-sided architecture and view sheds consistent with design concepts and examples
shown during the preliminary plat presentation by Rick Harrison. Slettner stated that
this would be acceptable to them.
M/S/P: WIlliiams/Dodson move to include a condition that the applicant is encouraged
to incorporate multi-sided architecture and view sheds consistent with design concepts
and examples shown during the Preliminary Plat presented by Rick Harrision . Vote 5-0,
Motion carried with Griffin abstaining.
Commission discussed Lake Elmo theming elements.
M/S/P: Williams/Dorschner move to encourage the applicant to incorporate elements of
the Lake Elmo theming study into the open space and public areas within the
subdivision. Vote 6-0, motion carried unanimously.
Williams suggested changes to draft findings and that these be restr icted to phase one.
Johnson did not think this change would be necessary since future phases would also be
bound by the preliminary plat requirements. Johnson requested that Staff be allowed to
further review the vision triangle to ensure that plantings within medians do not create
a problem for visibility. He suggested amending condition 7 in order to accomplish this.
M/S/P: Williams/Dorschner move to remove the second sentence in condition 7. Vote
6-0, motion carried unanimously.
Condition 7 would now read: The Final Landscape Plan shall be revised per the
requested modifications of the City Landscape Consultant, documented in a memo
dated 3/3/15. The Final Landscape Plans shall be approved prior to the release of Final
Plat for recording.
M/S/P: Kreimer/Dodson move to add a condition to state that the final landscape plan
shall be reviewed by the City to ensure that road safety issues are properly address by
the development, and specifically the site triangle requirements. Vote 6-0, motion
carried unanimously.
M/S/P: Williams/Kreimer move to recommend approval of the requested Zoning Map
Amendment for the Boulder Ponds planned development based on the finding of facts
listed in the staff report. Vote 6-0, motion carried unanimously.
M/S/P: Dorschner/ Williams move to recommend approval of the Boulder Ponds Final
Plat and Final PUD Plans with the conditions as revised by the Planning Commission and
based on the findings included in the staff report. Vote 6-0, motion carried
unanimously.
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Updates and Concerns
Council Updates – February 24, 2015 Meeting
1. Wendy Griffin was appointed 1st Alternate to Planning Commission.
2. Hammes Estates 1st Addition Development Agreement Amendment -
Approved.
3. Savona Preliminary Plat Resolution Amendment - Approved.
Council Updates – March 3, 2015 Meeting
1. Zoning Text Amendment – adding Liquor Stores to CC Zoning – Approved.
2. Easton Village Final Plat – Approved.
3. Easton Village Developer Agreement – Approved.
4. Lennar Sketch Plan – Reviewed.
Staff Updates
1. Upcoming Meetings
a. March 23, 2015
b. April 13,2015
c. Future Joint Meeting with EDA
Commission Concerns
Dorschner indicated that he had watched the last meeting, and expressed concern over
the Council’s statements concerning preferences for development. He stated that the
Planning Commission spend a great deal of time reviewing these applications for
consistency with the Comp Plan and Zoning Code.
Meeting adjourned at 10:30 pm
Respectfully submitted,
Joan Ziertman
Planning Program Assistant