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City of Lake Elmo
Planning Commission Meeting
Minutes of March 14, 2016
Chairman Kreimer called to order the meeting of the Lake Elmo Planning Commission at
7:00 p.m.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Kreimer, Dunn, Larson, Dodson, Lundquist and Williams.
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Fields, Griffin & Haggard
STAFF PRESENT: Planning Director Wensman & Interim Administrator Schroeder
Approve Agenda:
Dunn would like to see a discussion about reducing and rebalancing the density in the
Village Area. Dunn will discuss with the Planning Director. Schroeder stated the there is
a workshop scheduled for the City Council to provide direction.
The agenda was accepted as presented.
Approve Minutes: November 23, 2015
M/S/P: Dodson/Williams move to approve the November 23, 2015 minutes, Vote: 4-0,
motion carried.
Approve Minutes: February 8, 2016
M/S/P: Kreimer/Williams, move to approve the February 8, 2016 as amended, Vote: 6-0,
motion carried unanimously.
Approve Minutes: February 22, 2016
M/S/P: Williams/Dunn, move to approve the February 22, 2016 minutes as amended,
Vote: 6-0, motion carried unanimously.
Business Item – Inwood 3rd Additon – Final Plat and Final PUD approval.
Wensman started his presentation by giving the history of the development. Wensman
showed the Commission the phasing of the development. Phase 3 has an Island trail
connection to 10th Street and has 3 less lots than preliminary plat, making slightly larger
lots. Staff is recommending that the trail extend to 10th Street with phase 3.
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Unmet Preliminary Plat Conditions are 1) Landscape and Irrigation Plans for 1st addition
and 5th Street are not approved 2) There is no maintenance agreement clarifying
maintenance responsibilities 3) a required future trail along 10th Street will be addressed
with future phases of development.
Wensman went through the findings for approval and 9 recommended conditions of
approval which include meeting the engineers comments , HOA agreements and
Maintenance agreements.
Williams asked why some conditions needed to be met before the plat was recorded
and some were before building permits were issued. Wensman explained that the
critical issues were required before the plat was recored to ensure they were
completed. The other less significant ones are required before building permits so that
it won’t hold up the plat.
Dodson is wondering how the retaining walls will be addressed if the HOA agreements
have already been filed. Wensman believes that it was included in phase I and if not he
would circle back with the City Attorney. Rask stated that they were addressed in the
original and this is just a carry over.
Kreimer asked about the 4 foot setback issue and how it is being addressed in this
development. Wensman stated there are different techniques used to meet the fire
code. Kreimer asked about the center islands and if they were rain gardens. Wensman
stated they are not rain gardens, but infiltration basins.
There was discussion about the trail and when the other part of the trail would be
constructed. The trail south of block 1 and 4 are being built as part of the phase II
development.
John Rask, representing the Inwood Development, talked about the landscaping plans
and how they have changed with the City’s 5th Street plan. Rask explained what they
are doing with the infiltration basins and that the HOA is required to pay for the
maintenance.
Williams would like to delete the word landscaping In the second to the last draft
finding. Williams would also like to add the words “before any building permits are
issued” to condition number 8.
Williams is wondering if the watershed district should approve where the trail is. Rask
stated that the Watershed District gave approval for the entire site.
Kreimer would like to add a condition that the East/West trail adjacent to Phase 3 will
be built during this phase. Williams is wondering if the condition should be that the trail
be constructed in this phase before any building permits are issued. The Commission
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would like condition 10 to be that all trails within and adjacent to this phase, shall be
completed before any building permits are issued.
M/S/P: Williams/Dodson, move to approve Inwood 3rd addition based on the amended
findings of fact and the amended conditions of approval, Vote: 5-0, motion carried
unanimously. (Larson left meeting early)
Business Item – Home Occupation Discussion
Wensman gave the Commission background and stated that the City Council asked to
have the Planning Commission look at this ordinance. In the past, the Planning
Commission and City Council did a lot of work on this ordinance, but nothing was
adopted. Wensman stated that he has noticed a public hearing to clarify a conflict in
the code based on an application that had come forward related to hairdressing/beauty
shops.
Williams would like the definition in zoning code 154.012 B.12 E and Chapter 11 to
match. Also in the 3rd line add the word “no” so that it reads “that no stock in trade is
stored on the premisis”. Also in the 4th line “and that entrance to the home occupation
is or can be gained from within the structure”. After hair salons, it should say serving no
more than 2 customers at a time. Add the word “maximum” in regards to teaching
limited to a maximum of 3 students at any time. Dodson stated that there may be some
OSHA definitions that might be helpful. Dodson stated that the goal is to regulate what
is seen from the outside of the home. Williams stated that the storage should maybe be
limited to a certain number of square feet. The Commission is concerned about not
allowing any stock in trade on the premisis.
Council Updates – March 2, 2016 Meeting
1. Refer Home Occupation to the Planning Commission
2. Palmquist Commercial Wedding Ceremony IUP – Postponed to the
4/5/16 City Council Meeting.
3. Legends Concept Plan – Passed with road connecting.
Staff Updates
1. Upcoming Meetings
a. March 28, 2016
b. April 11, 2016
2. The new City Planner is Emily Becker.
Commission Concerns
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Lundquist would like to see a spreadsheet of current data on the current developments.
Some of the things she would like to see is the base address, name of development,
number of homes, number of townhouses, price ranges, how many are completed with
CO’s and the number that have been sold. She believes this is information that the Met
Council will want.
Schroeder talked about the Met Council forecasts coming up in regards to population,
housing units and employees.
There was a discussion regarding what should be included in the spreadsheet. Some
Commissioners felt that the price range was not necessary.
Lundquist has heard that the City can require developers to put in upgrades such as the
Landucci development could have been required to put in the stop light at 50th Street
and Highway 5. She didn’t see anything in the code, but it could be something like “if
any roads need to be improved due to increased traffic of a new development that we
review, we make it a condition of approval for that development that the improvement
be made by the developer to the City, State or County standards.”
Wensman stated that in the case of the Landucci property, the 50 th intersection has the
capacity to handle the increased traffic and therefore the developer could not be
required to install the improvement. Kreimer stated that with the Inwood
development, we did require them to make improvements.
Kreimer asked about Tartan Park and Hammes Estates. Schroeder stated that there
would be an announcement on Tartan Park tomorrow night. There is no update on
Hammes Estates.
Williams stated that for the Hecker project, it would be a benefit if all traffic exiting the
property would turn right leaving the venue. Wensman stated that he will talk to them
about it as it was not a condition of approval.
Dunn is wondering about the parking lot for the library. Schroeder stated that the
library board wanted different things than what was offered last summer and it is in the
library boards hands right now.
Dunn asked about the Manning project. Schroeder went through the phases that will
take place on this long term project.
M/S/P: Williams/Lundquist, move that the Planning Commission recommends to the
City Council that work begins on looking at form based code for the Village Mixed use
zone, Vote: 5-0, motion carried unanimously.
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Meeting adjourned at 8:10 pm
Respectfully submitted,
Joan Ziertman
Planning Program Assistant