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City of Lake Elmo
Planning Commission Meeting
Minutes of November 28, 2016
Chairman Williams called to order the meeting of the Lake Elmo Planning Commission at
7:00 p.m.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Fields, Dodson, Williams, Larson, and Lundquist
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Kreimer, Dunn, Griffin & Haggard
STAFF PRESENT: Planning Director Wensman, Finance Director Bendel and City
Administrator Handt
Approve Agenda:
Agenda was accepted as presented.
Approve Minutes: November 14, 2016
M/S/P: Dodson/Lundquist, move to approve the November 14, 2016 minutes as
amended, Vote: 4-0, motion carried with Fields not voting as he was not at meeting.
Public Hearing – Capital Improvement Plan
Finance Director Bendel presented an overview of the information in the packet. The
goal of the CIP is to have a 5 year capital improvement plan to identify major projects
needed and desired by the community. Including a project in the CIP does not commit
the City to that project. The City Council must specifically authorize each item and
identify the funding before any project may proceed. The process for the CIP is that the
department heads identify the projects over $25 ,000 and these items must have a
useful life of over five years. The department heads determine realistic costs for those
projects. The department heads prioritize these capital items. The Planning
Commission determines if these projects are consistent with the Comprehensive Plan
and holds the public hearing.
When the 2017-2021 CIP is finalized, it will be used to communicate to residents and
property owners when improvements are planned in their neighborhoods. The plan will
be annually revisited and revised based upon emerging needs and fiscal realities.
Changes in revenue, tax base, and project needs are annually incorporated into the
updated plan.
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The 2017-2021 five year CIP contains 75 projects totaling $33,813,266 with all costs
being based on estimates based on current dollars.
There are multiple street projects over 5 years, a facilities study is planned, and
replacement of vehicles for the fire department and building department. There are
plans for trails and a pickup truck dedicated to the parks department.
Williams asked about the downtown phases. He thought the City only had 3 phases, but
there are 6 phases in the CIP. Handt stated that back in August there was a
presentation to the City Council on the addition al phases that were petitioned. It is
fairly recent and now are being brought to the Planning Commission. Williams would
like to see a map of the areas affected. Williams also asked about the Parks section and
is wondering if the Parks Commission has held a public hearing on those. Handt stated
that there has been a lot of discussion regarding the improvements with the public and
tonight is the official public hearing on those.
Dodson asked why vehicles are assigned to various departments rather than being a
general pool of vehicles. Bendel stated that they are assigned to where they are being
used as we do not have a global vehicle fleet. There are a number of vehicles and
equipment that Public Works would like to replace.
Williams is questioning why the City is paying for any portion of turn lanes and street
signals that should be developer paid. Handt stated that the turn lane at Hunter’s
Crossing is actually a 5th Street turn lane and doesn’t solely benefit that Development.
Wensman stated that the CSAH 19 and Hudson Blvd turn lane was talked about when
Kwik Trip went in and it was decided that it wasn’t needed at that time.
Bendel went through the sewer system improvements that are planned for in the CIP.
Dodson asked what the sewer pipe oversizing is. Bendel stated that the developer
would only require a 12” pipe, but the City needs a 16” pipe to make it work for the
larger infrastructure and capacity. The Storm Water system has regional drainage
improvements. The water system had a number of water main projects and included
elevated storage tank #3 which has no identified site.
Dodson asked what the methodology for the prioritization is for the projects. Handt
stated that with limited funding they try to prioritize safety first, replacement and then
expansion. Bendel stated that this was the first year that items were prioritized. In the
past the amount that could be spent was decided and then they figured out what was
really needed. Sometimes things get postponed, but not removed. Lundquist asked if
the vehicles are purchased as part of a fleet. Handt mentioned that they are purchased
as part of a state contract. Williams asked about the funding sources and why those
aren’t listed anywhere. Handt stated that they gave them a streamlined version as the
role of the Planning Commission tonight is to make sure the CIP is consistent with the
Comprehensive Plan. Williams stated that since this is a public hearing , the information
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should be available for the public to give feedback on. Handt stated that projects in the
CIP are not approved projects, but they still need to go through the City Council
approval process. The CIP is more of a long range planning tool for the City and there is
a public hearing when the City bonds for projects.
Williams stated that as a citizen, he doesn’t think you should have to look at all the City
Council agendas to know what is going on and he feels that this is where the
information should be presented. Bendel stated that the funding for 2017 wo uld be the
critical year. Beyond that the funding will most likely change over time, so even if it was
presented, it would most likely change. 2017 also had the carry over borrowing
requirement for the downtown project. It gets a little bit muddy as the re is carry over
debt needs as well as forward borrowing. Fields would be comfortable just going
through 2017 and how it will be funded and how it adds to the City debt. The 2017 CIP
projects will add approximately $8.5 Million dollars of debt. Handt and Bendel went
through the funding for the various projects.
The Planning Commission had some general questions about the funding and balances
in various funds. Dodson also asked if multi-phase projects should be prioritized
differently.
Public Hearing opened at 8:00 pm
No one spoke and there were no written comments
Public Hearing closed at 8:01 pm
Williams would like to see the Railroad Crossing project to be a higher priority. This
project will take a long time and is important to the Village Parkway. Wensman stated
that the Village Parkway will be constructed with the Easton Village project and as the
project phases, the Railroad Crossing project may need to be moved up. Williams is
concerned about a lag between when something is put in as a priority and when it
actually happens. He would rather be proactive and get it done.
M/S/P: Fields/Lundquist, move to recommend that the 2017-2021 CIP is consistent with
the Comprehensive Plan, Vote: 5 0-, motion carried unanimously.
Williams would like to comment on the Reid Park improvement plans. He objects to
having the trails improved to accommodate mountain biking. He feels that there has to
be a better area that could accommodate this activity, rather than upset the natural
area of Reid Park. Dodson stated that the Park Preserve allows mountain biking and it is
adequate for this area for that activity. Larson stated that there could be a safety issue
because it is a fairly marshy wet area. Larson stated that in the time he has been going
to the Parks Commission, this topic has not come up. Wensman stated that typically
mountain bike trails are separate from the pedestrian trails.
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Business Item – 2017 Planning Department Work Plan
Wensman presented the Planning Commission with the 2017 Planning Department
work plan. There are a number of projects that have been completed, some projects
are currently in progress and some will follow the Comprehensive Plan update. There
are a number of projects that are ongoing, and there are a number of projects that are
unclear that were on the list prior to Wensman coming to Lake Elmo. There are also a
few projects that have been added.
The City Council will be setting their work plan the end of January. They will look at the
Planning Commission’s work plan when they do this. The Planning Commission
discussed the items on the work plan. The Commission decided to take some items off
and made some items different priorities. Dodson asked if wind generators and solar
gardens should be added to the work plan. The Commission decided to add it as a 3.
Wensman went through some subdivision ordinance amendments and Comp Plan
amendments. Wensman gave background for some of the Planning initiatives including
the Village Parkway railroad crossing. Wensman went through some of the Planning
projects for the department.
The Commission had a discussion regarding 3rd parties holding conservation easements.
Fields suggested if there was no 3rd party willing to take the conservation easement, the
developer could pay the City a fee to oversee the conservation easement. Williams
feels the item should be put on the work plan for further discussion with a priority 1.
Fields is wondering if there should be a discussion regarding drone use. He is not sure
that the discussion belongs at the Planning Commission, but he feels it could become an
issue. They are not regulated under 500 feet by the FAA.
M/S/P: Fields/Dodson, move to recommend approval of the 2017 Planning Department
Work Plan, Vote: 5-0, motion carried unanimously.
City Council Updates – November 15, 2016 Meeting
i) Zoning Text Amendment related to nonconforming uses, buildings and
structures – passed
ii) Zoning Text Amendment related to expiration of variances – passed
iii) Rieder Townhome Preliminary Plat Extension – passed
iv) Sign Variance 4201 Manning Ave - passed
1. Upcoming Meetings
a. November 28, 2016
b. December 12, 2016
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Commission Concerns
Lundquist wanted to confirm that the Cemetery lost its case in court. Handt confirmed
that the City prevailed and that the property owner has 60 days to appeal.
Meeting adjourned at 9:24 pm
Respectfully submitted,
Joan Ziertman
Planning Program Assistant