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City of Lake Elmo
Planning Commission Meeting
Minutes of April 24, 2017
Chairman Kreimer called to order the meeting of the Lake Elmo Planning Commission at
7:00 p.m.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Dorschner, Fields, Larson, Kreimer, Dodson, Emerson,
Williams, Lundquist and Hartley
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT:
STAFF PRESENT: Planning Director Wensman and City Planner Becker
Approve Agenda:
Accept the agenda as presented.
Approve Minutes: April 10, 2017
M/S/P: Williams/Dodson, move to approve the April 10, 2017 minutes as presented,
Vote: 7-0, motion carried unanimously.
Public Hearing – Zoning Map Amendment – Rezone Properties to VMX
Becker started her presentation by reviewing what was discussed at the March 27, 2017
meeting. After advertising the public hearing notice for that meeting, staff learned that
there were a number of Zoning Map errors with incorrect zoning classifications resulting
in properties that should have been included in the public notification for rezoning.
There are 2 properties that are zoned GB, that are guided for RAD. Staff does not
recommend rezoning these at this time. The guidance of the properties should first be
reconsidered with the 2040 Comp Plan update process. As a result, GB standards will
need to remain in the code. The Schiltgen parcel, which is a larger parcel, was added to
the PH notice, however, staff is not recommending that it be rezoned at this time. It is
typical for the developers to rezone larger propertiesduring Preliminary Plat process.
Dorschner asked why we would keep the general business standards. Wensman stated
that 2 parcels are zoned GB, but are guided for RAD. Wensman stated that until the
guidance is changed, if they continue to remain GB, there needs to be standards.
Dorschner stated that he thought this whole exercise was to get everything in line now
because of new development coming in. Wensman stated that if it is the desire to get
rid of the GB standards, those 2 properties could be rezoned to RAD. These properties
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are currently not used for business, even though that is how they are zoned. Becker
stated that the reason for the rezoning is because these properties largely do not meet
the GB standards and are legal non-conforming. The rezone to VMX will give them more
appropriate standards to work with for their properties which will make them more
conforming and provide greater flexibility.
Williams asked if they had heard anything from the property owners of the 2 parcels.
He is wondering if they might have thought they were going to be rezoned to VMX.
Becker stated that it is possible, but after reviewing the map, it was determined that
they are guided for RAD. Williams asked about the impervious surface allowance in the
table. Becker stated that the numbers in table are reversed. Williams asked if the list of
properties included any residential properties. Becker stated that if they were not
already zoned as GB, they were not included. There were a couple of properties that
were zoned as residential that are used for business. Those are being rezoned to VMX.
Public Hearing opened at 7:14 pm
Susan Dunn, 11018 Upper 33rd Street, she is concerned as she lives in a single family
home in the Village. Dunn is wondering if all single family homes will be reguided to
VMX. Becker stated that no, not all would be rezoned. Only those properties currently
zoned GB, used for business and guided for VMX will be rezoned. Becker estimated that
approximately 78 acres would be rezoned. There are approximately 1300 acres in the
Village, with approximately 164 acres guided for VMX. Dunn asked how many units per
acre are in VMX. Becker stated that there are 6-10 units per acre. Dunn is not in favor
of that large of an area being VMX.
There were no written comments
Public Hearing closed at 7:18 pm
Larson asked about the single family homes and how they would be handled. Becker
stated that it depends how the ZTA for Village Urban Districts is decided. She stated
that right now, it states that single family homes are permitted. Wensman stated that
the single family homes are not being rezoned at this time. Wensman stated that the
next step is to decide with the ZTA how to handle them. Afterward, they should be
rezoned, reguided, or left that same.
M/S/P: Williams/Lundquist, move to recommend a Zoning Map Amendment rezoning
properties outlined in Ord. 08- to VMX – Village Mixed Use, Vote: 7-0, motion carried
unanimously.
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Public Hearing – Grading Permit in Excess of 400 cubic yards of material
Wensman started his presentation regarding a grading permit for HC Royal Golf to
excavate over 400 cubic yards per acre of site area. This is for phase I of the
development and covers 73 acres to be graded. This is a very large first phase because
utilities are coming from the south, but the clubhouse is required to hook up to sewer
within 2 years in the north.
Normally grading occurs after preliminary plat approval. The City Council has not yet
approved the Preliminary Plat/PUD. They are awaiting Met Council determination. RGC
is seeking early grading because the Met Council CPA approval likely won’t be until late
May 2017. The developer wants to get a start so that Phase I can be completed in 2017.
Grading prior to plat approval is solely at the developer’s own risk as there could be
changes to the plat. This will be acknowledged in the grading agreement.
There will be an escrow for the cost estimate for remediation if the plan doesn’t move
forward. There would be escrow for erosion control, seeding and tree replacement. If
the preliminary plat moves forward, the grading escrow will be replaced by a developer
escrow and released.
Williams asked if the utility work would happen after the preliminary plat is approved.
Wensman stated that is correct. Kreimer asked if the preliminary plat had been
approved would they need to do this. Wensman stated that no, it would be part of the
Preliminary Plat process. Hartley asked what the time frame for the preliminary plat to
take over the grading plan. Wensman stated that they a re trying to get ahead of the
preliminary plat approval. Hartley asked if there is a time frame that the City would
decide the Preliminary Plat wasn’t going to happen and would start to restore the site.
Wensman stated that if the City Council denies the plat, or the Met Council denies the
CPA and asks for changes.
Wensman stated that the escrow would be used by the City once the project is dead and
the developer is not doing the remediation. Dodson felt that only giving the developer
10 days before remediation takes place, was not enough time. Williams asked how the
total number of trees would be handled for the tree preservation plan if this is approved
and then the plat changed. Wensman stated that a revised tree preservation plan
would be required if there are changes and it would be addressed through construction
plans. Dorschner asked about VBWD and MPCA permits as copies were not in packet.
Wensman stated that they have not been obtained yet. Dorschner stated that this
property is critical to the watershed in the City area and specifically regulating Lake
Elmo. Wensman stated that VBWD is currently reviewing the Preliminary Plat grading
plan. Wensman stated that most of the issues that the VBWD are dealing with on the
plan have to do with flood storage and building pad elevations and redirecting storm
water from Downs Lake to Horseshoe Lake. Before any grading can be done, the
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developer will need VBWD approval. The City Engineer will be looking to see that there
are no erosion control issues.
Proposed grading is consistent with the EAW and the City made a negative declaration
for an EIS. They are over the threshold for tree preservation for phase I, but not for the
total project. If the project does not move forward, they will be replacing trees.
The details of the grading are that no utility work will be included. The grading will
encompass NE area and SW area of RCG with 73 acres to be graded. There is a large
basin near 20th street and Manning for floodplain replacement and construction of a
new entrance to 20th Street. There are no plans to truck material in and out of site. The
grading plans include construction of large modular block retaining walls. All disturbed
ground will be restored with seeding and fiber blankets per ordinance. Wetland 16 will
be excavated and replacement by purchase of wetland credits. The access for the
grading will be from 20th Street for the NE grading work and from 10th Street for the SE
grading work. Access locations need to be shown on grading plans and a Washington
County ROW permit is required for access from 10th Street.
No grading can occur until Council approval, grading plan approval by city Engineer,
conformance with City erosion control standards, VBWD approval, and an NPDES
Permit, Grading Agreement execution and securities in place, tree preservation staking
& Precon meeting.
Hartley asked what happens to the grading agreement if the preliminary plat is delayed.
Wensman stated that this agreement will stay in place until it is replaced with a
developer’s agreement.
Public Hearing opened at 7:53 pm
Susan Dunn, 11018 Upper 33rd Street, talked about the significance of the waterway
that Dorschner brought up. There was questions regarding the trees that wer e
removed.
There were 2 email comments in support of this from Mike Tate, 11588 20th St & Bonnie
Morris, 11612 20th Street.
Mary Leslie, 11546 20th Street N, asked about the new gravel road coming off of 20th
Street and if it would be permanent. People on 20th Street are very interested to know
what the changes will be. She also commented on the water in that area and the
problems that they had in the past.
Tom Barnes, 1734 Manning Trail, his drainfield is the lowest in the area and wants the
grading to be done in such a way that it will not be affected. He is also concerned about
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days and hours of operation. Packer stated that there are drainage swales that go
behind the properties. They are not allowed to put more water onto anyone’s property.
Becker went over what the hours of operation are.
Public Hearing closed at 8:10 pm
Williams is concerned about the tremendous grade changes in the NE corner of the
development. He publicly withdraws his comments that they need not be concerned
with the effect on the homes in West Lakeland. He thinks their views will be adversely
affected by this plan. Wensman stated that the former plans saved trees in that
location, but to address flood plain storage issues, the plans were revised making the
pond larger.
Dodson is wondering if they need additional technical opinions regarding the w ater
issues and how it could affect Lake Elmo. Wensman stated that the Valley Branch
Watershed District had done modeling on the Horseshoe Lake watershed and as a result
there is a larger retention pond.
M/S/P: Williams/Hartley, add draft finding #6 that the proposed phase I grading is
consistent as a stand alone project regarding a tree replacement plan , Vote: 7-0, motion
carried unanimously.
M/S/P: Williams/Kreimer, would like to add to condition #7 after the words “are
obtained”, “before any work commences”, Vote: 7-0, motion carried unanimously.
M/S/P: Dorschner/Lundquist, move to recommend approval of the grading permit to
grade the first phase of the proposed Royal Golf Club at Lake Elmo plat area with 7
conditions as revised based on the revised findings in the staff report, Vote: 7-0, motion
carried unanimously.
Public Hearing – Zoning Text Amendment – Solar Energy
Becker started her presentation by stating that the only thing that they are considering
are the standards for solar energy systems. The change to allow for solar farms in rural
districts was not advertised. Changes from the last meeting were 1) solar farms were
added as a conditional principal and accessory use to AG & RR districts, 2) Solar farm
definition not be based solely on selling of power, as solar energy systems trade power
back and forth, so it should be based on size, 3) minimum lot size is 10 acres 4)
maximum percentage of coverage is 25% 5) setbacks are subject to accessory structure
requirements of zoning district (or could be changed by Commission). Staff is
recommending that this should be tabled at this time because the Fire Chief and
Building Official made comments and suggestions, and they would like to have time to
research and suggest additional standards. There is concern about fire fighter risks
associated with solar energy.
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Lundquist stated that an example of a perfect location for a solar farm not on 10 acres
would be the grade school with a flat roof. She also stated that something else to look
into would be photovoltaic is something to be concerned with and should be
researched.
There was discussion about standards for residential vs commercial properties and
ground mount vs roof mount.
Public Hearing opened at 8:30 pm
No one spoke and there were no written comments
Public Hearing closed at 8:31 pm
Dodson asked if there would be a different definition for solar farms for different zoning
districts. Williams is wondering if commercial should even be a CUP if there are
standards in place. Becker is wondering if they should separate the solar farms between
ground mount and building mount solar farms. Williams believes that would be the
case as the building mounting systems are self-limiting in size. Fields agrees that the
focus should be on ground mount systems.
Williams is suggesting that the solar farms could be an interim use in the RT zone.
Dodson asked about the OP district. Becker stated that OP is either a CUP or a PUD in
the AG or RR Districts, so it is inherent in the code.
Dorschner would like to have a better definition and understa nding of what a solar farm
is. Becker stated that ground mount should probably be part of the definition. Becker
stated that the definition that was proposed was taken from a model ordinance and is
what other cities have used. Hartley stated that a sola r farm is not on a building
because then it is an accessory use. Fields is not sure it is important to define how much
energy is sold off. He thinks the objective should be impacts to surrounding neighbors.
Wensman stated that from staff perspective, he thinks a CUP might be helpful to make
sure impacts are at a minimum.
M/S/P: Williams/Fields, move to postpone further consideration of Ord 08-173 for
additional standards of solar energy systems until the May 22, 2017 meeting, Vote: 7-0,
motion carried unanimously.
Dodson feels that they are pretty close on the ordinance that they have. Kreimer stated
that the Fire Chief and Building Official wanted to give input. Becker stated that the
public hearing notice also needs to be published for the amendments to zoning code.
Business Item – Easton Village 2 Final Plat
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Becker started her presentation for Easton Village 2 Final Plat. This addition is for 19
single family lots in the 217 unit development. Prior to approval of Final Plat,
Preliminary Plans were updated to meet conditions of Preliminary Plat approval.
Revisions to these plans were required in order to address the following: 1) reconfigure
temp access 2) grading plan revisions 3) Adjustments to property Boundaries 4) Slightly
larger buffer from railroad tracks 5) revisions to stormwater mgmt. plan. The applicant
has increased the number of lots for the 2nd Addition Final Plat application from 18 as
proposed in Preliminary Plat, to 19 and there is a decrease in lot size. The developer has
also removed a trail and outlot. There is 9.84 acres of required parkland dedication.
3.99 acres were dedicated with 1st addition which leaves a remaining 5.85 acres of cash
payment in lieu of land. The developer was required to again update the preliminary
plans prior to reviewing the 2nd Addition Final Plat to reflect the lot size and number
changes. The issues with the landscape plans are as follows 1) there is no landscaping
shown on Village Parkway 2) there are no utility locations 3) irrigation plans needed for
ROW area 4) landscape maintenance agreement needed for ROW areas 5) condition of
approval landscape plans updated and approved by City Landscape Architect. Staff is
reviewing the Village Parkway Plan and the landscaping plans may be modified based on
that review.
The final plat is generally compliant with preliminary plat with the following exceptions
1) plan revision and proper permits required 2) parkland dedication is required and
needs to be re-evaluated with trail and outlot being eliminated 3) #14 distribution of
future costs associated with Village Parkway railroad crossing improvements to be
determined as part of developer’s agreement 4) #17 applicant is proposing eliminating
trail connection.
Dodson is concerned with the elimination of the trail connection. They pushed at
preliminary plat to have that and doesn’t know why it was removed. Becker stated that
the trail connection was discussed at the Park Commission and they didn’t see a
problem with it.
Dodson asked about condition #7 encouraging builders to incorporate interior noise
reduction measures. Dodson is wondering if that had been done in phase I. Wensman
stated that he is not aware of if that is happening or not.
Kreimer asked if there was a net increase of the development with the extra lot for
phase II. Becker stated that the overall development would still be 217 units. Kreimer
asked about the Village Parkway and why it did not get built completely to 2 nd addition
as required with the first phase.
Tom Wolter, Easton Village Developer, they are eliminating the trail, however, there is
still sidewalks in the cul-de-sac that connects to the other sidewalks in development. By
eliminating the trail, they have a variety of lot widths and can accommodate different
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home types. People also like the privacy of not having a trail at the end of the cul -de-
sac. Dodson asked if there was a way to put the trail between 2 other lots. Wolter
stated that this segment of trail really doesn’t connect to anything.
Dodson asked about the sound abatement. Wolter stated that would go back to the
building department. Dodson asked if the builders are being encouraged to do any
sound abatement. Wolter stated that there is language in the HOA agreement
regarding the airport. There is no agreement between the developer and the builders.
Dodson is concerned about the trail being removed as the discussion at preliminary plat
was for connectivity. Williams doesn’t think the trail should be removed. He thinks it
does provide connectivity between the sidewalk and the cul-de-sac and Village Parkway.
He doesn’t buy the argument for privacy because the houses are so big and so close
together that there isn’t privacy anyway.
Dorschner feels that because the houses are so close, the trail should be removed
because there really isn’t a need with sidewalks on both sides. He feels the trail is
intrusive into the yards of those 2 lots and the lots would be hard to sell with the
easement. Larson is looking at this more as a jurisdictional issue. The Park Commission
has seen this and reviewed this and they said that it could be taken out. Larson feels it
is more the decision of the Park Commission. Williams recalls that the Park Commission
isn’t in favor of trails at the end of any Cul-de-Sac and he doesn’t agree with their
position. Williams stated that there are many sidewalks and trails that go along the side
of houses. Fields does not like to see an amenity that was approved at preliminary plat
removed when it comes to final plat. However, he does not see a great functionality of
that piece of trail. He has mixed feelings about it. Kreimer is in favor of trails at the end
of cul-de-sacs, but he is in favor of getting a better variety of lots in this development
and felt the short length of this cul-de-sac made it more agreeable.
Williams stated that there is an easy way to get more variety and that would be to put
smaller homes on some of these lots.
Williams made a friendly amendment to add to finding #2 the elimination of the trail at
the cul-de-sac to the parkway, accepted by Dorschner.
M/S/P: Dorschner/Lundquist, move to recommend approval of the Easton Village 2nd
Addition Final Plat with the 10 conditions of approval as drafted by staff and amended:
Vote: 6-1, motion carried, with Williams voting against.
Williams asked if any of the conditions mentioned that trail. Becker stated that the trail
was a condition of approval for preliminary plat approval. Williams asked if any of the
findings for this approval address taking out that trail. Wensman stated that a finding
might be beneficial. Dodson feels it is covered as finding #3 states issues identified in
staff report.
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Business Item – Zoning Text Amendment – Village Urban Districts
Becker started her presentation by going over the changes since the last meeting.
Single family homes in VMX are proposed as a condition use. The required findings are
that the use or development is compatible with existing neighborhood and that use will
be designated constructed, operated and maintained so as to be compatible in
appearance with existing or intended character of the general vicinity and will not
change essential character of the area. Current standards limit to those existing at the
time of adoption of ordinance. Should the City limit single family homes to those
existing at the time of adoption of the Ordinance or allow new and expanding single
family homes as a conditional use. Staff is looking for feedback on if the City should only
allow the existing single family homes, or if single family homes should be a conditional
use and they can be reviewed at the time to see if it would fit in with the general
character. The City Attorney was contacted in regards to the mixed use definition. She
did not have a definition as it is a mix of 2 principal uses already defined in zoning code.
There was previously proposed to maintain an open space buffer as designated by the
Comprehensive Plan without having to reference different setbacks in building permit
review process. Developers do not think it is practical and feel a better alternative
might be landscaping and berms. They also suggest a landscape easement over the
buffer. Model ordinance requires that developments over 5 acres in size have a mix of
housing types.
The Commission requested feedback from the County on why they want greater
setbacks on County roads. The reasons are as follows 1) portions of these roads are
considered minor highways and ROW widening may be necessary 2) higher traffic
volume 3) Lake Elmo Ave provides direct Access to Hwy 36 4) Trails may be desired on
both sides or four lanes, additional setbacks may accommodate construction 5)
additional setbacks leave room for berming and landscaping. This was added to the V -
LDR. The VMX does not provide for accessory structures. Should they be the same as
urban residential districts? Should the width of garages be the current standard of 40%
or the proposed 60% as in urban districts? Should two-family dwellings be conditional
uses as well in VMX?
Williams asked about the mixed use definition. Could it be applied to a development
that had single family homes as well as commercial structures? Wensman stated that if
it is part of an overall plan, the review would be done on the whole thing and it would
be a horizontal mix.
Kreimer asked how wide the Village overlay buffer is. Becker stated that it is not
specified anywhere that she can tell. Wensman stated that if you scale it, it would be
about 100 feet. Kreimer stated that his recollection was 100 feet. Dodson thought the
idea was to have the same buffer as an open space development. Kreimer doesn’t feel
that 100 feet is that hard to maintain.
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Williams feels that both existing and new single family homes should be conditional
uses. Kreimer agrees that if the conditions are met, new single family would be fine.
Williams feels that 2 family dwellings should also be conditional. Dodson feels that
making them a CUP and evaluating if they fit, that can be arbitrary.
Dodson asked if Single family homes are allowed, how would you prevent for example a
very modern looking home from going in. Becker stated that a CUP could have
conditions for design to be compatible with existing or intended character.
Dorschner agrees that it should be conditional, but is also wondering if the whole
section of residential uses should be. Larson is wondering if it is burdening people,
Commissions and the Council by making so many things conditional. Fields feels that
making things conditional will not encourage projects to come forward. Lundquist
agrees with Dorschner that everything under residential should be a CUP to protect the
current residents in the Village.
M/S/P: Williams/Dorschner, move to make all of the residential uses in VMX a
conditional use, with confirmation from staff that there are no legal issues, Vote: 7-0,
motion carried unanimously.
M/S/P: Williams/Larson, move to make auto parts supply a conditional use in VMX,
Vote: 7-0, motion carried unanimously.
M/S/P: Dorschner/Fields, move to make medical facilities a permitted use in VMX,
Vote: 3-4, motion fails.
Williams is concerned that a medical facility could be anything from a small clinic to a
big hospital. He thinks it is too broad of a term to just allow anywhere in the VMX
district. Dodson thinks that could apply to many of the items on the list. Williams is
wondering if there should be any kind of a maximum building size in the VMX.
M/S/P: Kreimer/Williams, move to increase setbacks along certain portions of county
roads in the V-LDR to 30 feet, Vote: 7-0, motion carried unanimously.
Becker asked the Commission how they felt about the Accessory structure setback to
side yard and garage width. The Commission would like the garage width to stay at 40%
for VMX, but increase to 60% for V-LDR.
M/S/P: Williams/Kreimer, move to recommend adoption of Ord 08- as amended,
creating a Village Low Density Residential District and making minor amendments to the
Village Mixed Use District, Vote: 7-0, motion carried unanimously.
City Council Updates – April 18, 2017 Meeting
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i) Engineering & Landscape Design & Construction Standards – Passed
ii) Bremer Bank Service Center Easement Vacations – Passed
Staff Updates
1. Upcoming Meetings
a. May 8, 2017
b. May 22, 2017
2. MAC CEP Report
Commission Concerns
Meeting adjourned at 10:45 pm
Respectfully submitted,
Joan Ziertman
Planning Program Assistant