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City of Lake Elmo
Planning Commission Meeting
Minutes of July 24, 2017
Chairman Kreimer called to order the meeting of the Lake Elmo Planning Commission at
7:00 p.m.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Kreimer, Dodson, Emerson, Williams, Lundquist, Johnson,
Larson and Hartley
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Dorschner
STAFF PRESENT: City Planner Becker
Approve Agenda:
The agenda was accepted as presented
Approve Minutes: July 10, 2017
M/S/P: Hartley/Lundquist, move to approve the July 10, 2017 minutes as amended,
Vote: 7-0, motion carried unanimously.
Public Hearing – Shoreland Variance 8690 Lake Jane Trail
Becker started her presentation regarding a request from Glenwood Homes for a
variance from the minimum structure setback standard from the Ordinary High Water
level of a Recreational Development Lake within the Shoreland District to allow the
expansion of a non-conforming structure for the property located at 8690 Lake Jane
Trail N. The applicant would like to add an expansion of the current garage as well as a
porch addition and patio. The current home is setback approximately 75 feet from the
OHW level. The current requirement is 100 feet, so the home is currently non-
conforming. The MNDNR is recommending that if the variance is granted, impervious
surface created by further encroachment is mitigated. Becker stated that the
impervious surface is actually being decreased as the applicant is removing a concrete
area. Therefore staff is not recommending that a rain garden be installed. Staff is
recommending that an escrow be collected based on an estimate of the cost for the
concrete to be removed to ensure that it will be removed as proposed .
Becker went through the 4 findings in regards to the variance that need to be met in
order to grant the variance. These are practical difficulties, unique circumstances,
character of locality and effect on adjacent properties and traffic. There are 2 staff
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recommended conditions of approval which include a required escrow and that the
applicant obtain all applicable permits.
Dodson is wondering if there is any risk if the City goes against the DNR
recommendation. Becker stated that the DNR is a recommending body, but can appeal
the decision if they feel strongly. Ultimately it is the decision of the City. Dodson also
asked if there were any other recommendations besides a rain garden. Becker stated
that on another variance there was the suggest ion to reduce the expansion and to
restore the shore line to the natural condition.
Williams asked if the property owners purchased the house after the shoreland
ordinance went into effect. Williams stated that if the current land owner purchased
the house knowing that it was non-conforming, why is the request for the variance not
due to their own efforts. He feels that if a property owner purchases a property that
has restrictions, he doesn’t feel that meets the requirement of unique circumstances.
Becker feels that the unique circumstances is because of the location of the septic
system.
Hartley is wondering about where the hardship is that didn’t exist when they purchased
the property. Becker stated that the term hardship does not apply anymore.
Morgan Jenkins, Glenwood Homes, stated that the homeowners were under the
impression when they purchased the property that there was only a 75 foot setback vs
100 foot setback. This changed to 100 feet because of the location of the septic.
Jenkins feels that needs of homeowners change over time and they should be able to
use their property to the fullest. The Commission had questions regarding the removal
of the concrete. Jenkins talked about the removal and installation of green space.
Public Hearing opened at 7:20 pm
No one spoke and there were 2 letters in support
Public Hearing closed at 7:20 pm
Ben Pepin, property owner, purchased the home in 2014 as a single person. He was
recently married and their needs have changed.
Williams only concern has to do with the setback and meeting criteria number 2 of
unique circumstances.
Morgan Jenkins stated that they are not going closer to the lake with the project than
they currently are, so it is not a setback issue.
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Kreimer stated that he feels the project is an improvement to the property, but wants to
make sure that legally they can approve it as having met all of the variance conditions.
Hartley feels that the improvements are not making the non-conformity better. As a
tradeoff for that, they should consider the mitigation features proposed by the DNR.
Emerson doesn’t feel that there should be more restrictions put on something that will
continue to be non-conforming when they are actually improving the property.
Becker stated that anything beyond normal repair to this home would require a
variance. Williams stated in essence any change to the foot print would require a
variance.
M/S/P: Williams/Dodson, move to add 2 additional findings 1) that the proposed activity
does not increase the degree of non-conformity and 2) that the amount of impervious
surface would be decreased as a result of this proposal, Vote: 7-0, motion carried
unanimously.
Williams asked the applicant how big the storage shed and remaining pad will be. The
applicant stated that the shed is 10x12 and the pad is 16x16. Williams asked if the pad
could be reduced. Jenkins stated that they would be willing to reduce that area.
M/S/P: Williams/Lundquist, move to add an additional condition that the applicant will
use either pervious pavers for the patio area or construct a rain garden as
recommended by the DNR to contain run off from the impervious surface at the
applicants option, Vote: 7-0, motion carried unanimously.
Hartley thinks that the house gutters and rain garden would be a better solution than
the pervious pavers. Emerson does not feel that they work well and are a maintenance
issue. Hartley stated that he has one in his front yard and if they are designed properly,
they work well.
M/S/P: Williams/Lundquist, move to recommend approval of the request for shoreland
variance for the property located at 8690 Lake Jane Trail N, subject to the conditions of
approval as amended and the findings as amended, Vote: 7-0, motion carried
unanimously.
City Council Updates – July 18, 2017 Meeting
i) Easton Village 3rd Addition Final Plat – passed
ii) Easton Village 3rd Addition Developer Agreement - passed
Staff Updates
1. Upcoming Meetings
a. August 14, 2017
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b. August 28, 2017
2. MAC CEP Report
Commission Concerns
Hartley talked about the meetings regarding the Comprehensive plan as the Planning
Commission representative.
Williams would like to see more effort put in by staff to start looking at items on the
work plan.
Lundquist asked about the proposed cemetery and where that is at or if it is still in the
appeals court. Becker stated that she has not heard of anything further on the issue.
Lundquist feels it would be in the community’s best interest to explore the possibility of
a park and ride along 94 somewhere.
Meeting adjourned at 8:12 pm
Respectfully submitted,
Joan Ziertman
Planning Program Assistant