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City of Lake Elmo
Planning Commission Meeting
Minutes of January 14, 2019
Chairman Johnson called to order the meeting of the Lake Elmo Planning Commission at
7:00 p.m.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Johnson, Weeks, Hartley, Holtz, Cadenhead, Steil, Risner
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Contract Planner Haskamp, City Administrator Handt, City Planner
Prchal and Planning Director Roberts
Council Member Bloyer administered the Oath of office to the new Planning
Commission members.
M/S/P: Hartley/Weeks, move to amend the agenda to have brief introduction of
members, Vote: 7-0, motion carried unanimously.
Planning Commission members introduced themselves.
Election of Officers:
Kathy Weeks nominated Stuart Johnson for Chairperson, seconded by Steil.
M/S/P: Weeks/Steil, move to elect Stuart Johnson as Chairperson of the Planning
Commission for 2019, Vote: 7-0, motion carried unanimously.
Stuart Johnson nominated Kathy Weeks for Vice Chair seconded by Risner
M/S/P: Johnson/Risner, move to elect Kathy Weeks as Vice Chairperson of the Planning
Commission for 2019, Vote: 7-0, motion carried unanimously.
Approve Agenda:
M/S/P: Hartley/Johnson, move to approve the agenda as amended, Vote: 7-0, motion
carried unanimously.
Approve Minutes: December 10, 2018
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M/S/P: Hartley/Weeks, move to approve the December 10, 2018 Minutes as presented,
Vote: 7-0, motion carried unanimously.
Public Hearing – 2040 Comprehensive Plan Update
Roberts introduced this item and went through the background of the 2040
Comprehensive Plan update. The City has been working for the past 2 years to update
the Comprehensive Plan. Since the jurisdictional review period has ended, no changes
can be made that might affect other jurisdictions. Washington County had some good
comments that will be included into the plan.
Haskamp started her presentation and went through some of the background of the
preparation of the 2040 Comprehensive Plan. In the seven county metro area, Cities are
required statutorily to update the Comprehensive Plan every 10 years . The
Metropolitan Land Act is what governs this requirement. The Metropolitan Council
comes out with a system statement, in years that end in a “5”. For this planning period,
it came out in 2015, which gives time to incorporate into the plan. Once the
Comprehensive Plan is adopted, ordinances are looked at for compliance.
In chapter 1, the Community context is set out. The rural areas, or everything outside of
the MUSA, are encouraged to have a density of 1 unit per 10 acres. The other areas in
the MUSA are required to have a minimum of 3 dwelling units per acre. Chapter 2 is
the vision, goals and strategies chapter. The Land Use Chapter previously had a
category that was called Urban Reserve. That was taken out. The City of Afton was
concerned with some of the uses along Manning and I94. Nothing was changed based
on those comments. This is actually less intense than 2030.
Chapters 3, 9 and 10 deal with staging and infrastructure. These deal with staging and
infrastructure availability capacity. There are improvements that need to happen for
certain areas to develop. There were not a lot of changes in Chapter 5 the housing
chapter, Chapter 6 Parks, Trails and Open Space or Chapter 7, Transportation.
Hartley asked about a map that was shown that did not show the Royal Golf property in
the MUSA. Haskamp stated that the Met Council Shape files have not been updated
yet.
Holtz asked why there is nothing regarding the 3M water contamination and that we are
participating with the 3M settlement. Holtz feels that it could affect long term planning.
Handt stated that it could be included. Haskamp feels that the conversation could be
had with the City Engineer as he was very deliberate on the language to be used. Handt
read a section in Chapter 11, implementation that it is included in.
Public Hearing opened at 7:53 pm
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Neil Krueger, 4452 Lake Elmo Ave, has been part of the process for a long time and has
submitted comments in the past. Krueger feels that the City could do a better job of
responding to comments that are submitted. Krueger is wondering what the process is
for the MUSA boundary to be changed. Krueger feels strongly about providing
affordable housing. There was no discussion about the Manning/Hwy 36 area which has
land in Lake Elmo. Krueger feels that design standards are very important and the term
should be recognized in the Comprehensive Plan. Krueger is wondering if there will be
enough fresh water to provide for the population that is proposed for the next 20 years
and are there any assurances that we can provide water to residents.
Susan Saffle, 110180 50th Street, greatest concern is fresh water for the City and if there
will be enough for people as the population grows.
Public Hearing closed at 7:58 pm
Haskamp stated that the process to amend the MUSA boundary requires a Comp Plan
Amendment. It must be approved by the Met Council and part of that is proving that
there is enough capacity to include the amended boundary. Haskamp stated it is
anywhere from a 3-6 month process. It is something the city has broad discretion on.
Haskamp stated that in the housing chapter, there is a table showing what Lake Elmo’s
affordable housing need is. This number is 508 units. There needs to be acreage
allocated with the appropriate densities to potentially meet this number. Haskamp
stated that highway 36 and Manning is addressed in chapter 7. Design Standards are
outside the scope of the Comprehensive Plan, but could be addressed in the zoning
code. Handt stated that there is enough fresh water capacity, it is getting the
distribution figured out Lake Elmo is within the White Bear Lake 5 mile radius, so there
has been a lot of modeling regarding the water.
Hartley is wondering if there is a process to shrink the MUSA boundary. Haskamp stated
that the City is not allowed to shrink the boundary. Weeks feels a lot of work and citizen
input has been put into the Comprehensive Plan and she sees it as a good guide for the
City for the next 10 years.
Hartley asked if the current density in the MUSA is based on the zoning in those areas,
not the current houses that are built. Haskamp stated that what is currently platted is
below the 3 units per acre and is currently at about 2.25 per acre. Hartley stated that
that rural areas are required to be 1 unit per 10 acres. Hartley is wondering what the
current density in those areas is. Haskamp stated that it is written as encouraged and it
should be guided as such. Haskamp feels that there is some room if the city follows the
Open Space ordinance.
M/S/P: Holtz/Hartley, move to recommend approval of the draft 2040 Comprehensive
Plan Update with the changes recommended by Washington County, Vote: 7-0, motion
carried unanimously.
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Business Item – Zoning Text Amendment – Mixed Use
Roberts started his presentation regarding the Zoning Text Amendment to create a
Mixed Business Park and a Mixed Use Commercial Zoning District. The mixed use zones
allows for market forces to decide what will go in the areas. There could be both
residential and commercial uses on a given parcel. Roberts stated that it also gives the
city enough acreage to hopefully meet the housing units required by the Met Council.
Roberts would like to focus on what types of industrial and commercial uses the City
would like to allow by residential areas. Roberts stated that at least 50 % of the area
needs to develop in residential to meet the numbers required by Met Council.
Steil asked for clarification about the 50% requirement. Roberts state d that the
residential component can exceed 50%, but not the commercial component. Johnson
asked if it would make sense to include a not to exceed clause. Roberts stated that it
depends on the market and at this point, it is probably not a good idea. In the future, if
the majority of what comes in is residential, down the line the Cit y might be open to
amend the Comprehensive Plan to allow more commercial.
Hartley stated that the single family detached is allowed and there is standards, but
logic says in medium and high density, the numbers don’t work. Roberts stated that a
project might come in that has high density buildings and on the perimeter there might
be single family or twin homes. There could be a mix of housing products and a range of
densities.
Roberts talked about ghost plats and build out plans. Roberts stated tha t if a property
owner wants to only develop a portion of a property, they have to show what will be
put on the whole property. The ghost plat becomes attached to the land and all future
development for the site is tied to that ghost plat. Weeks asked if staff is comfortable
having ghost platting in this ordinance. Roberts stated that it is not ideal, but there is a
way for staff to track it. Weeks stated if there is a way to simplify it, or not even include
it, she is in favor of that. Weeks understands the concept, but worries that it will be too
cumbersome or with staff turnover, it could become a problem.
Hartley asked if it will pass legal obstacles. Roberts stated that it would. Holtz stated
that many other Cities in the Metro use the concept of Ghost platting, but he is
concerned about record retention and if the ghost plat is recorded against the property.
Weeks stated that there could be something in the developer’s agreement regarding the
ghost plat and the developer’s agreement is recorded at the County. Hartley stated that
since it is recorded at the County, that would be a mechanism that is searchable when
there is a transfer of land. Roberts stated that one of the conditions of the developer
agreement would be in regards to the ghost plat and would have the legal description
and the conditions of the ghost plat.
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Roberts wanted to make sure that the Planning Commission still feels that
manufacturing should not be an allowed use in this district. Roberts is wondering also if
in the table, the Planning Commission would want non-production industrial. This could
include contractor’s yards for example which could have negative impacts to neighbors.
Weeks is worried about taking out contractor yards because Lamperts Lumber yard is in
this area. Weeks is not interested in making Lamperts non-conforming and is concerned
about making the property useless if they were to sell to another Lumber yard.
Hartley stated that light manufacturing could be very valuable to Lake Elmo. Some of
those are contained and would be of high value to Lake Elmo. Hartley doesn’t want to
see those excluded.
M/S/P: Hartley/Weeks, move to keep light industrial and light manufacturing, Vote: 7-0,
motion carried unanimously.
Roberts asked if the Planning Commission would like to add an item regarding
compatible uses. Roberts pointed to language that Woodbury has in their ordinance.
Having this language gives more flexibility to the ordinance when there is a question if a
proposal should be allowed. Weeks likes the idea because there would be flexibility for
something that might not be thought of at this time. Hartley stated that it would give
the City the opportunity to look at the potential light manufacturing and light in dustrial
to see if it is compatible.
There was discussion by the Planning Commission about taking out the kennel
component of Veterinary Services. Roberts pointed out that even if it is taken out at
this time, a business coming in that would want a kennel, can apply for a zoning text
amendment. Roberts stated from the City perspective, they are better off starting off
more conservatively with the commercial uses to not discourage residential.
Cadenhead asked what the definition of a trade shop is. Prchal read the definition to
the Planning Commission. Weeks pointed out that a trade shop is an allowed use in the
VMX and also in the commercial Zone.
Roberts added language giving more flexibility to the screening component for exterior
storage. The section regarding bicycle parking was removed as the Planning
Commission did not feel it was necessary.
Prchal gave examples of where some businesses that are located by residential in other
cities by showing zoning maps. Weeks pointed out that sometimes a street acts as the
buffer between a neighborhood and a business.
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Prchal pointed out that the Inwood development was platted as a PUD, but it would be
similar to what is being talked about. There is residential and commercial on the same
property, with 5th Street being a buffer between the two areas.
Weeks is wondering if a PUD can be applied in the Mixed Use Commercial and Mixed
Use Business Park zones. Roberts believes that it is written that way. Prchal thinks with
the flexibility of the code, it probably isn’t necessary, unless they wanted more d ensity.
Roberts stated that if the Planning Commission is comfortable with the ordinance and
the changes incorporated, the next step would be to hold the public hearing and take
testimony.
M/S/P: Hartley/Holtz, move to direct staff to incorporate the changes discussed and
prepare for a public hearing, Vote: 7-0, motion carried unanimously.
City Council Updates – January 2, 2018
1. Resolution Ratifying approval of Royal Golf 3rd Addition Final Plat, PUD and
Easement
2. Resolution Ratifying approval of Wyndham Village Final Plat
City Council Updates – January 8, 2018
1. Planning Commission Appointments
2. 2019 Planning Commission Work Plan
Staff Updates
1. Upcoming Meetings
a. January 28, 2019
b. February 11, 2019
Meeting adjourned at 9:25 pm
Respectfully submitted,
Joan Ziertman
Building Permit Technician