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LAKE ELMO SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING
JUNE 11, 2002
Vice -Mayor Dunn called the special meeting to order at 5:15 p.m. in the Council
chambers. The purpose of the meeting was to discuss the City's response to the
Metropolitan Council's staff review of Lake Elmo's 2000 Comprehensive Plan and to
discuss internal planning with Sand Creek.
PRESENT: City Council: Siedow, Dunn, Hunt (arrived 5:30 p.m.), DeLapp, City
Administrator Kueffner and City Planner Dillerud. ABSENT: Council member
Armstrong
Planning Commission: Julie Bunn, Mark Deziel, Todd Ptacek. Old Village —_
Commission: Wyn John. Environmental Commission: Dean Johnston.
Met Council Representative: Marc Hugunin`9
Planner Chuck Dillerud:
On February 8, the 2000 Comprehensive Plan was complete. There was a 60 day review
by Met Council staff and Board. An extension of 60 days was taken by the Met Council
as State Statute permits -to about June 8. The Met Council requested and the City Council
agreed to an additional 60+ day extension to mid -August. At the request of Mayor Hunt,
the Regional Administrator took the Lake Elmo Comprehensive Plan off the June 12 Met
Council agenda and agreed to instead consider at the June 26 Met Council meeting. A
city staff memo was provided with excerpts of the Metro Digest (a METC publication of
actions the Board has recently taken); and, a second one from State Statutes. The city
attorney was asked to check case law regarding METC actions against local governments
responsive to both of the sections of State Statutes, and he found there is no case law
either on an appeal or of any city being taken to District Court for the purpose of
changing a City comprehensive plan to conform with the regional systems supported by
the Metropolitan Council.
The purpose of the workshop is to determine in what manner to respond to the Met.
Council staff review comments attributed to the Comp Plan. The Planner stated that the
State Statutes permit the Met Council to compare Comprehensive Plans to the four
Regional Systems: transportation, wastewater, parks and aviation. The Met Council Staff
has attempted to make a case that by non -development; the City is impacting the regional
systems.
Highways: They write because Lake Elmo is not developing at the pace Oakdale and
Woodbury, we are not using the capacity I-94 and Hwy 36 is being built to
accommodate.
Wastewater: Lake Elmo's Comprehensive Plan does not show any MUSA line extension
which would utilize the Council's budgeted $10,000.000, for what our City has just
learned is called the new Lake Elmo Interceptor.
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Parks: Lake Elmo has built, and paid for, a 500 acre park system, which is in addition tc
the 2,100 acre Lake Elmo Regional Park. The City's park system can accommodate a
significantly grater population and the Regional Park is underutilized in part because the
City has not increased the housing density surrounding the Park.
The Planner suggested the City respond initially by taking the high road approach, and
put together a concise position statement rather than attack the Council Staff position
point by point. He asked if the Council agreed that staff could go to the Met Co. Board
with a PowerPoint presentation showing the character we are trying to preserve and how
we are doing it by the cluster ordinance development, and why this is not contrary to the
four Regional systems.
Mayor Lee Hunt:
The Staff could bring work we have done with the Minnesota Design Team and the
Calthorp Study, funded by the Met. Council, and validating our approach.
Council member Dunn:
The Council's 1996 Regional Blueprint for Growth anticipates a substantial amount of
urban development in the City while the City's vision calls for rural development. The
Met Council is looking at something seven years in the past, and prepared under the
direction of a different administration and Chairman. She thinks that the Met Council has
made positive strides in appreciating the value of lower density options and
environmental protection. She strongly believes in local land us control. The City can
continue to assist the Council define the issues as it has in the formulation of the rural
issues document reviewed in draft form. She agrees with the Planner about going to the
Met Council Board with a positive approach, but asked that the Planner be very firm in
support of our current policies.
Marc Hugunin, Met. Council Representative:
He thought the City Planner's analysis was good. He noted that the Plan was reviewed on
the basis of consistency with the 1996 Blueprint and not on the 2030 Blueprint which will
not become policy until December of 2002.
Wyn John, Old Village Commission Member:
The statement that the City did not object to the 1996 Plan is untrue. The City did object,
and was told by Council staff that it was only a concept, don't worry about it.
Council Member DeLapp
Noting that some of the strongest proponents for urban development of the 3 '/2 square
miles south of I Oh Street, believe that if Lake Elmo doesn't promote this development,
the Woodbury City Council will annex it without Lake Elmo's concurrence. He thought
we should meet with the Woodbury Council, whose written policy is to only consider
annexation if requested by adjacent property owners and their city or township. He said
this meeting would put to rest the threat to our City and make it clear to everyone that
Woodbury will not annex Lake Elmo. He noted that if Lake Elmo were to build a
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parallel 13 wells upstream in the aquifer Woodbury is proposing to build 13 wells, they
may not have an adequate water supply. Four years ago the Met Council came up with
plans for light rail and transit where people want to live, work, bathe in bunch of
apartments, and co -mingled stores, offices and other business establishments. The Smart
Growth mode they have for us is the one Woodbury started with their prime outlet center
and continuing with 500 affordable housing units on 50 acres north of Markgraf Lake.
The Plan called for having 13,000 people living in that intersection half of Woodbury and
half in Lake Elmo. The residents would be represented by two Cities but would both be
in the Stillwater School District.
Planner Dillerud:
Responding to Councilor DeLapp's continent about the smart growth node at I-94 and
Keats, the Planner said that he saw what looks like a spider with feet that is their new
regional growth policy. They are going to try to smart growth at hubs and along major
transportation corridors. The plan is not as geographic specific as Council member
DeLapp believes.
Council Member Siedow:
He voted against the draft Comp Plan because of the I-94 development corridor. He
would like commercial for the first one-third of a mile with the next one-third for multi-
unit residential and the remainder for Open Space single family housing. Lake Elmo
should have some responsibility for having this utopia in a metropolitan area. We share
benefits of a big city, but we do not pay our fair share. If services were along the I- 94
corridor, commercial would be the least taxing to our citizens. We could use 1-94 as a
commercial tax base. The vast majority of our residents work out of Lake Elmo and use
services outside the City. With some commercial along our border rather than a house
every 2.5 acres, we would be protecting the City from being annexed. He stated that the
impact of the sewer would be to increase the underlying values to where the existing 2.5
acre housing south of 101h Street would be redeveloped at urban densities.
Todd Ptacelc, Planning Commission Member:
A financial reality, the I-94 money is a trade off from Eagle Point Blvd for sidewalks,
improvements in the Old Village. We have to move forward with a positive approach. If
we didn't supply our information on OP developments, this would be a perfect
opportunity to show the Met Council staff by a tour.
Council member DeLapp:
The Met. Council in the seven county regional areas takes off the top 40% of all
commercial taxes. Tax money never comes back. If they build commercial in
Woodbury, Lake Elmo actually get some taxes.
Marc Hugunin:
The City Staff could come to the Board with the Big Picture showing what explaining
Lake Elmo's values are and how the Comprehensive Plan is consistent with, and
enhances these values. He wouldn't rule out a tour of the City by the Council. Mr.
Hugunin agreed with the Planner that taking a high road approach with the Council
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would be more effective than condemning the Council Staff and confronting the Council
on each area of dispute. He said that there isn't any question that the current Council has
a strong regard to local prerogative. That would bring conflict to some other values. He
suggested that the City could try to get on Council Chair Ted Mondale's schedule to
allow the City Staff to discuss the 22 points of contention. Examples: I-94 is going to be
improved in front of 3M in a few years and there is an opportunity to expand the WONE
interceptor capacity for 10 million dollars. If Lake Elmo doesn't support this
infrastructure improvement concurrently with the highway construction, the future cost to
bring in this urban service would probably be double. The policy question is if Lake
Elmo is willing to pick tip that extra 10 million in the future. Or does that mean that the
opportunity for bringing urban density to Lake Elmo is eliminated? This question needs
discussion. The other issue is traffic calming on Highway 5. The Council will not allow
this to take place.
Mary Kueffner, City Administrator:
I believe what the Met Council is looking for is an explanation as to why Lake Elmo
apparently changed its mind on the proposed downstream upgrade to the WONE
Interceptor that would have given the City enough capacity to serve the 440 acre
Business Park proposed in our original comprehensive plan amendment (which was
denied), and later resubmitted for 120 acres and approved. At City Council direction,
staff negotiated with Met Council for this change to prevent the new Cottage Grove
Interceptor from being "driven" under I-94 to Lake Elmo's border, which would have
opened up the City to uncontrolled urban development.
Both the 440 and 120 comprehensive plan amendments submitted to the Met. Council
were for Business Park uses only. Neither amendment include any provision for housing
as several audit reports received from Tautges & Redpath urged the City to better balance
the ratio of housing to commercial tax base.
Mr. Hugunin responded that it's not so much the why that is critical, but what are the
implications of making such a change.
Wyn John:
If the WONE Interceptor was increasing capacity, then it would allow us to continue
control development going eastward along I-94 rather than go in the middle and in an
uncontrollable way. In that stem going N-S, there should be some long term capacity
in that route should the timing be appropriate that Lake Elmo would like to tie into in the
future.
Chuck Dillerud, Citv Planner:
He has been hesitant to negotiate the sanitary sewer issue and traffic calming issue. He
cannot make a commitment for the City Council. Staff could come back to City Council
with what I think their position would like to be. Their position might be move MUSA
out to the WONE expansion. The Met Council may say that if we give you that sewer,
then you will take affordable housing over part of that land.
Mayor Lee Hunt:
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We should invite the Met Council Board Members to take a tour of the City and set up a
workshop for staff and Council to hammer out issues.
Mary Kueffner, City Administrator:
There may be no "case law" where the Met Council has gone after a community for being
inconsistent with the Met Council's Regional Growth plans, but the (Met) Council was a
strong proponent of sewering the area we annexed (by joint resolution) from Baytown
Township, and the Screaton property south of 55a' Street. Met. Council had staff
representation as well as legal representation from the Attorney General's office
testifying in favor of a concurrent detachment/annexation of the already commercially
platted land from Lake Elmo to Oak Park Heights.
Council Member Dunn:
We should go with the 2030 Blueprint Plan as we now understand it, and there will be no
problem. What do we have to lose if we are not accredited with the Met Council?
Marc Hugunin•
He encouraged the City Council to authorize staff to meet with Met Council staff to
discuss issues; some issues discussed are not directly discussed in this report, such as, the
potential of walking away from the sewer capacity in the SW corner forever. Housing is
not a system. He didn't see much emphasis at all in the Exec Summary on that.
Planner Dillerud:
He recalled when the comprehensive plan was done, the City Council chopped the
MUSA back with the understanding that if staff could do something about improving the
quality of the development you have seen so far in the sewered area, you would
potentially reconsider.
Council member DeLapp:
He agreed with the City Plainer if that he would support the expansion of public sewer if
certain changes were made such as substantially reducing the density, providing
landscaping to block the view from the freeway and the enforcement of current material
and signage standards. The last commercial buildings that have come into the City have
been wonderful, but we should get rid of the commercial stuff like the restaurant and
hotel. Council member DeLapp said he would submit a complete list in writing to the
Planner. He also stated that his support of this level of development was opposed by
many residents who participated in the Minnesota Design Team overview of the City.
Marc Hugunin:
The first thing he is going to do is find out if statutory authority exists to extend review
period again. He will be gone for three weeks in July. Look at a meeting in September.
Try to get a tour in June. On the June 26u' Met Council agenda, this is an informational
item. Present the Big Picture in July.
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M/S/P Dunn/Siedow — to direct staff to find out statutory timeline for the Comprehensive
Plan review process, and then to meet with Met Council Staff for clarification of issues of
concern brought up in Met Council's Executive Summary. (Motion passed 4-0).
M/S/P DeLapp/Dunn — direct the staff to set up a tour with Met. Council Chairman, Ted
Mondale and Met Council members for early July or earlier. (Motion passed 4-0).
Council member DeLapp asked if the City should hire a Land Use Attorney. Mayor Hunt
wanted to wait because was concerned what message we would give.
Planner Dillerud asked if the Council wanted this discussion of criteria for the 440
comprehensive plan amendments on the June 18 agenda. Mayor Hunt confirmed the
request, adding if it is a busy agenda, then Council could meet earlier. The Council could
send their comments to Chuck earlier on this item.
Mayor Hunt announced there is a workshop with a Sand Creek representative at 6:30
p.m. on June 1 Sol.
Adjourn at 6:45p.m.
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