HomeMy WebLinkAbout06-12-73 CCMJune 12, 1973 8:30 r.N, (Minutes of Council Meeting)
Iia-,or Brockman reconvened June 5, 1973 council meeting.
Chuck Swanson advised that the County Board has authorized the board chairman and
county auditor to enter into a contract with the 9i_llare of Lake Wrmo "or land
acquisition of County Highway 19B.
C. Shervheim presented Resolution R73-22 ordering hearing on entire 19B acoui.sition
and improvement. Second by C. `Uatson. Council passed unanimously.
Hearing set Per June 27, 1973 at 7:00 P.M. in the Lake We Vil.lare C:ounci.l. Chambers.
Notice will he published June 15, and June 26, 1973.
Motion by C. Shervheim 2nd by C. Abercrombie that the Stillwater Gazette be
temporarilly set up as the official paper until clarification on present parer.
Both publications are to be used in the interim. Carried 5.-0.
Motion by C. Shervheim 2nd by C. 'datson to adjourn at 8:55 P.M.
Respectfully submitted
Donald Mehsikomer
Villase Clerk
Lnke Llr+o, TIinnesota
June 12, 7 973
1,11_rnates of Ilea.ring Regardi ng "ramping Water frorn Lake Jane
Hearing opened at 7:01 P.1% by 11a;-or Brookman.
Present: Brookrnan,llbercrombi.e,'?atson,Shervheim, ?r,edrich,Fark and iehsikomer
from Council.
Also present: Counsel Raleigh, Engineer Bonestroo, 91e.g,. TTnsp, i`iueller and over
56 concerned citizens, roost of whom were from the Tri-lakes area.
(See list on file for snec:ifi.c naves.)
Clerk read the notice of hearing and advised thnt it had rece ved the reouired
publication.
Clerk advised that no communications had been received by his office regardinp
pumping from Lake Jane.
Engineer explained background and advised that estimated costs were aonrox.
I16,620.. =equipment rental and. power "or &,) days 05,100. and around the clock
survoilance an additional ?11,520.. Cost for a lessor time period would be
reduced proportionately. See June 1, 1972 Letter to clerk for more detail.
Hayor asked for citizen comments.
Mr.__Dave P?organ - 1663 Birch Bark Trail. Lake Jane has not In the past 12 years
varied i.n la.ke level except as related to precinitation. I do not agree that there
is any hydrostatic pressure between various lakes in area which effect-'s lake level.
Otto Layer-- Berschens Pond not the answer. Water should be pumned to some other
location.�
Adolph Johnson--fi1F6S Lake Jane 'frail. C have li; acres in pending area, ';Thy wasn't
I consulted. Checking it was determined that Mr. Johnson is Located 1-Mff? of lake
whereas Pie proposed pumping area is ESE of lake.
�d.Stol-ne --PP81 Jane Road 'in. -Don't we need conservation dep't, approval?
Reply --,yes permit is required.
Dick Johnson -.- Valley Branch Tiatershed District is requesting more data. I
.feel this :is sound data and object to a y`}76,000. experiment with no guarantee of
desired results.
George fledges -- 4508 Birch Dark 'frail.-- Summarized his exn�,rierces since he
gaps resoons:ible for Village of Lake Elro petition to V91,I La'/e jape has risen
from 91P and at end of P'Ia.y �jas 921-' 4". LonF Lake TE of Tri-lakes overflow ncirt
is 937.5' and it ,s norm at 93°.7' and overflowing. The excess taater is r^aching
Lake l:emontrevi_1.1e and Lake Olson and they are *,•r•th_in I'T' of overflow. Moth
these lakes 'rose 6" in May.
I-`rs. Robert Bal.lsrud--Ph55 Deer ?lend Trail ';o. -- I don't believe there is
hydrostatic pressure 'involved here.
Elmer. Richert---9219 -45th. .a. "a.-- I have probably lived in I;he lake as long as
anyone present. In 1.923 the water eras as hi-Fh as it Is ncnr and according to old
ti.mers t•a.as even hii-her before that.
Conrad ,.dams -- I have 1-ved on Lake Jane for 10 years. Rainfall is responsibl.ea
for water levelha,,re l hae seen Lake drop as much as 1P° during a dry season. I don't
approve soenciing money "or the pumping from Lake Jane.
Ers.-Ed. Slinde - Isn't there a building code regarding building on lalre shore
lo`.:s? is or advised that there is a r gelation and cotar.cilTaas revg , et=ri_nto eee 'f
it r•a3.., sl ict enouC;h. If this is a temporary rather than per.narert solution how often
w 11 it occur.. ReolY tre_> no one 1has a positive anst•aer.
continued_
Meaning -- pumping Mter from Lake Jane
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Conrad Adams -- The lawsuit initiated in 1965 prevented a. proposed ditch; if
this had -VA Oorm:itted, lake Jane woulc1 oow have all the e rcess rater now in
Lake Olson and Lake Denrontrovi_lle.
Donald_ •'ioris--- 9759-45th. SU No. --- low big is 3erschens ''ond.? If they rdise
the level. over 2 - 3 ft. water will overflow into wooded area ann destroy trees.
Suguest some other plan be evaluated. new about Earle Point Lake?
Todd Vall:iaamms --3025 lake Elmo Sve. Va. -- `,To will. Pay for project?
Answer-- Benefited property owners.
Jerry Pelson -- 5565 St. CroAx Tra.i.l Soo Afton. -- 1 don't live on lake but I
own a -lot, will I pay. If project noes through and rot are determined to he a
benefited property owner, yes you *.rout d nay.
Jess Kottaz---7942 :Till Trail I live on Late Domontrevi7_l_e possibly residents
on Lake Olson and Lake Demontreville mall be considered benefited property owners.
I an disturbed because village is spendin.e money on this matter.. V.13 W.D. has
uvers outside the problem area they shoal' 5e required to get sonethinn done.
If individuals are hav'ng problems NM ,septic systems they are in violation a.nd
should be required to take corrective action,
Ed. Slinde--9385 -4th. St. Iio. ...- If t'srschens Dona is rased 1,t .3' �-aaa.77
effect mysepticsystem. ',P:o Is, going to pay to tale care of my system :`_r this
occurs?
Scotty Lyall -- -- If this problem or hearing has done nothing else at least
it has brought all these people together because of a common problem; money.
Possibly now that all sides have been heard we can better get to a solution.
ilven though money is the prime interest now the future could bring a rove serious
problem. I am not saying it will, but it could and once that hanDens it may be
too late. We should make our presence known when the T11M meets on Thursday,
June 10, 1973 and make our feelings known.
Dick_ Johnson --- I don't feel. action for action sake is the proner thing.
hay*or 3rookrran --• The VT11D has advised that an additional study of the, whole
district is necessary and estimate cost is 134000. This would probably run into
objections from some areas.
Warren Lemav -- Lake Jane is Privately owned lake and has no nubl i c access.
Scotty Iy..11 -- I chal.len o tltiat, Recently I was confronted by a crane warden and
Lake Jane .s owned by the state.
Todd Wil_lianr -- '!hat, would be cost of test wells to detenvine if there eras
hydrostatic pressure.
nfi_neer Bonestroo -- Probably about Q1,000. lag loan to check this? About 2 weeks.
Ken Sovereign --4 15 Olson Lake Trail lip. Re: the r'r31.,000, for VB[.,TD study. They
won't do a.nythinunless they are a., essed, Council should do something even if :it
i.volvas the Village ini.ti.at`ing a lawsuit.
Hearing adjourned by ' ayor 13rookman with the announcement that a decision *could be
given regarding Dale Jane at the June 19, 1973 Village Council meeting.
Adjourned at 030 P. T.
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PROPOSED POLICY ON SIGN REGULATIONS
The Village Zoning Ordinance prohibits advertising signs in all
districts except those districts zoned for commercial use. However,
a Special Use Permit is required for off -site advertising devices
in such commercial districts and a building permit is required for
any sign whether or not a Special Use Permit has been issued.
The Ordinance also sets specific size, height and location specifi-
cations for such signs as are permitted.
There are many non -conforming signs(both business identification and
off -site advertising) in the Village of Lake Elmo.
It appears that within the next two years the State of Minnesota,
through its Highway Department,will require the removal of many of
these signs which are located along the state highways.
The Planning Commission, therefore, recommends the following policy
to the Village Council:
1. Except as provided below, all non -conforming signs in the
Village will be eliminated by attrition until the Highway
Department has completed its removal of signs along state
highways.
2. No new off -site advertising signs shall be permitted.
3. Policies 1 and 2 above shall continue until the Planning
Commission has completed a review of the existing Ordinance
in the light of anticipated developments in the Village
and recommend such amendments as may be necessary for a
long-range regulation of signs.
4. Notwithstanding policy 1 above, the Village shall require
removal of the following signs:
(a) Dangerous signs -- such signs as the State Highway
Engineers determine constitute a traffic hazard.
(b) Dilapidated signs -- those signs the Village Building
Inspector determines to be dilapidated because of lack
of reasonable maintenance.
(c) Signs constructed higher than 25 feet (the maximum
height established by the existing Ordinance).
(d) Signs newly constructed on a major highway without a
Village permit after June 17, 1971, (which signs are
prohibited by Chapter 173 of the Minnesota Statutes).
Proposed Policy on Sign Regulations
Page 2
5. All sign companies shall be informed of the following:
(a) That the within policies have been adopted by the
Village Council on the recommendation of the Planning
Commission.
(b) That all signs now in existence in the Village of Lake
Elmo for which a valid permit has not been issued are
non -conforming uses; that they are standing only at
the sufferance of the Village Council and that the
Village Council reserves the right at any time to have
such signs removed at the expense of the sign owner
and/or landowner.