HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-15-79 CCMMinutes of the Lake Elmo City Council, May 15, 1979
Acting Mayor Pott convened the meeting at 5:09 p.m.
l Councillors in attendance: Johnson, Morgan, Mottaz (5:50) and Mayor
Armstrong (5:45) Also, Administrator Whittaker. and Building Inspector
Kluegel.
AGENDA: Additions under new business: No Parking Sign on 50th St.
and Children Playing Sign on Hidden Bay. City Council re-
sponse ,to the Surface Water Study Committee Recommendations.
Additions under Old Business - VBWD Petitions: Organizing
pumping procedures, per action taken May 14.
Morgan moved, Johnson seconded, to approve the agenda as
amended. Motion carried 3--0.
MINUTES: Corrections -- page 3, Maintenance Committee Report to
read ..... and gravel from the City Clerk Budget to Streets.
Page 3, Police Action to read ..... a situation he considered
police over zealousness.
Morgan moved, Johnson seconded to approve the minutes of
May 1, 1979, as corrected. Motion carried 3-0.
CLAIMS: Pott moved, Morgan seconded to pay claims 79240 thru 79286
with the exception of: 79256 to Tom Loucks & Associates.
Final payment will be made upon completion of the Zoning
Ordinance and Zoning Map. Motion carried 4-0. The
Administrator will review with DeLaHunt, Vote & Co. their
estimate over the agreed upon quote.
COUNCIL REPORTS: A. Building Committee - Maintenance Building •- The
building will Te earth sheltered on tHree sides. The angle
of the structure will be evaluated for amenity to the area
and energy efficiency. The dimensions are 36 x 80. Grant
possibilities to be explored; also an estimate from the
engineer, as to design costs for the building; and the
administrator will inquire if contractors do this work on
design -build basis.
B. Park Committee - Park Shelter - Morgan moved, Johnson
_seconded, that the City use TKDA, architects to prepare
specifications for a design -build structure, for a cost
not to exceed $1,000. Motion carried 4-0.
Johnson suggested following the same type of procedure
for the maintenance building.
Regional Park Plan Meeting - A meeting is scheduled for
May 17, 1979, at 7:30; discussion is for amending the
Lake Elmo Master. Plan.
Region Park Plan_ - The Council expressed concern about
the proposed RV camping, the south-east boat launch, the
number of snowmobile and horse trails vs. the lack of
bike and hiking trails, and the amount of activity pro-
posed for the park. The Administrator was instructed to
send a letter to the Regional Park Commission indicating
Lake Elmo's objections; and requesting consideration for
water storage on Eagle Point Lake and revision of the
north -south road within the park.
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COUNCIL REPORTS: Morgan reported the cost of fencing the Lion's
Park ball field with chain link fence will be about
$2.,400. The money has been appropriated from the Park
Fund.
Pott suggested the City Council approve the 1.979 Park
Fund Budget. This will be taken up at the next meeting.
DINNER BREAK: Ben's Elmo Inn - 6:30 to 7:30
PUBLIC INQUIRIES: A, Lake Elmo Baptist Church - Jack Holmes of
Vanman Construction and Bill Hargess, Lake Elmo Baptist
Church presented the plans for Phase I. They requested
the Council inform them of any conditions or additions
needed for final approval. The driveway landing to the
north was questioned, also the type and size of trees
used for screening, Mr. Holmes indicated the building
may be moved to the east. If this is done approval will
have to be given.
Armstrong moved, Morgan seconded, to approve the plan
with the provision the driveway landing meet the spec-
ifications drawn by the engineer; trees are to be large
enough to provide immediate screening. If the building
is moved from the proposed site plan, it will be subject
to the approval of the City Engineer.. Motion carried 4-0.
B. Racquet Ball Court - Charles Gifford and Robert Wagner
The proposed structure was reviewed by the Council. Mr.
Gifford has secured an easement from Mr. Holiday, the
adjoining property owner, for additional drainfield area.
The property is not large enough to show two drainfield
sites, The engineer questioned the ponding in the high-
way right-of-way. The Council agreed on the concept; but
suggested Mr. Gifford consider purchasing additional prop-
erty for a second drainfield and ponding. It was recommended
Mr. Gifford meet with the engineer and sewer inspector
to discuss the drainage and septic questions.
C. Gilbert Meyer - City Lot - The City has a 50' x 65'
piece of land on Lake Elmo Avenue that is in front of
the Meyer parcel. Mr. Meyer disires to sell his parcel
and is requesting the City include their piece. Mayor
Armstrong suggested the City have their parcel appraised
at the same time as Meyers. The cost can be split based
on square footage or on the value of the City parcel.
The city will consider selling the piece after the ap-
praisal and when a buyer approaches the City.
D. Cash Values- Park Donations - The Administrators memo
of May 8',, 979, outlines the park donations received, and
par], donations proposed under the new percentage formula.
Previously, park donations for Springborn's Green Acres,
Eden Park II, and Tri-Star Addition, were miscalculated
under Green Acre valuation.
Armstrong moved, Morgan seconded that the new formula be
applied to Springborn's Green Acres, Eden Park II, and
Tri-Star Addition, per Administrators memo of May 8, 1979,
to the higher of the following:
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D. Cash Values Cont'd
1. Tax market value
2. Price paid for the real estate
3. Appraisal, supplied by subdivider
Motion carried 3-2.. Pott and Johnson voting nay.
Administrators memo to become part of these minutes.
Johnson moved, Morgan seconded, to amend the Subdivision
ordinance to provide for this new formula. Motion
carried 5-0.
E. Irwin Court Drainage Improvements - Bruce Folz met
with Eng3.neer ]3bhrer and recommended the following as a
solution to the drainange problem for Irvin Court: .
1. An additional 24" culvert, next to the existing one
2. 135 ft. of culvert down to Lake Jane
3. Lowering the ditch in front of the Rundquist resi-
dence - his driveway entrance would be moved to
Irvin Court.
4. Repair culvert in front of the Jensen residence and
blacktop around it.
Estimated cost of construction to be $12,000 plus ease-
ment cost. Jerry Mogren feel this amount excessive; and
that nearby benefiting property owners should share the
cost. Cutting the culvert size to 18" is a cost con-
sideration. Folz questioned whether the City will pay
for the easement. Before any decision is made the Council
wants to review the figures on all alternatives.
f" F. General Public - No inquiries
OLD BUSINESS: A. Bids - Trailer for Mower - Mottaz moved, Morgan
seconded,-- the Ci yt purchase the $1,300 Toro Trailer.
Motion carried 5-0.
B. License & Permit Fees - Tabled until next meeting.
C. VBWI)'�ieP t tions 1003,_ 1004_and 1005 - Al Fandry will.
secure the DNR Permits for pumping Lake Jane. The
Administrator was authorized to spend $�qoO to lease
a pump and pipe to iniate pumping for 20 days. This
amount includes fuel. A work crew will be organized for
Saturday morning, May 19, to lay the pipe. See minutes
of May 14, 1979 for motion authorizing the pumping.
Armstrong moved, Pott seconded, to authorize monies from
the Administrative Contingence Fund for pumping. Motion
carried 5-0.
NEW BUSINESS: Licenses - Morgan moved, Pott seconded, to approve-.
li.<ense:s .Er. George Sedwick, Heating and Air. Conditioning,
1001 Xenia Ave. So., Minneapolis; Charpentier-Madigan, Inc.
2777 N. 2nd Street, Stillwater, Sewer Installer; Country-
side Sewer and Water, 6680 Jocelyn Road N., Stillwater.
Motion carried 5-0.
Signs -- Mrs. Jack Walmer requested a 'Slow Children'
sign be placed in front of her residence on Hidden Bay Rd.
Such a sign is presently about half a block away. The
Council decided to leave the sign where it is.
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Signs Cont'd - Armstrong moved, Morgan seconded to place
'No P-arkin—(TT signs at the north end of Olson Lake on 50th
Street. Motion carried 5-0.
ADJOURNMENT: Mottaz moved, Morgan seconded to adjourn at 1.0:45 p.m.
Minutes of the Lake Elmo City Council Meeting, May 14, 1979
'Special meeting with the Valley Branch watershed District
i Board of Managers.
Mayor Armstrong convened the meeting at 7:40 p.m., with the
following Councillors present: Johnson, Morgan and Pott.
Councillor Mottaz was absent. The following Managers were
present: Dornfeld, hedges, IIornina and Rosas. Eder was absent.
Administrator Whittaker was also present.
AGENDA: Armstrong moved, seconded by Morgan, to approve the
Agenda as presented. Motion carried 3-0. Pott was
temporarily absent.
IMMEDIATE FLOOD PROBLEMS:
Mr. & Mrs. Ken Evanoff, 9199 Jane Road No., appeared
and told the Council that, with the current rate of in-
flow, their home would be in the lake in eight days.
Mr. hedges said he felt the City could get a permit
from the DI4R fairly quickly for emergency, temporary
pumping. h'e said the Watershed District (VBWD) could
not expend any funds before the hearing on Project 1005;
and couldn't commit to project 1005 before the hearing.
Rosas said he was not convinced that pumping Lake Jane
was the correct solution; he prefers pumping Long Lake
and buying home on Lake Jane.
Dornfel.d said lie was not sure pumping was the best
solution either. horning said that, if the District
pumps, they should pump enough to build in bounce on
the lake.
Morgan asked if the District had emergency funds for
pumping. hedges said the District had set aside about
$1,200 for Lake Elmo emergencies. In discussion, the
Managers agreed that $1,200. was all they would allot
from administrative funds for Lake Elmo. They agreed
that last year's allocation was not available; and that
no additional District funds were to be made available.
Bob Logue said Lake Jane was the highest it had ever been.
1005 CONTRACTS:
The District asked the City to be its contractor for
project 1005, if ordered. Johnson moved, seconded by
Pott, that the City act as the contract agent to operate
the pumping when project 1005 is ordered by the District.
Motion carried 4-0.
EMERGENCY PUMPING:
Johnson moved, seconded by Morgan, that A. The City
start temporary emergency pumping of Lake Jane into
the park pond until June 4, 1979, for a cost not to ex-
ceed $4,700.00, exclusive of labor; and B. The City re-
quest maximum reimbursement from VBWD from administrative
Lake Elmo City Council, May 14, 1979 page two
or emergency funds for said pumping; and C. The City
monitor Sunfish Lake to determine if the pumping had
any effect on the elevation of that lake.
Motion carried 4-0.
STATUS PROJECT 1005:
Mr. IIedges distributed a chart which indicates the pro-
gress to date on project 1005; and the schedule for the
remaining work items. (Copy attached)
CITY PLAN FOR SURFACE WATER PROBLEMS:
Armstrong explained the current City program to lower
the culvert to Beutel's pond, clean the Eagle Point Fork
channel and dam Eagle Point Lake. Whittaker explained
that the County was not opposed to storing water on Eagle
Point Lake; but that they would have to research the need
for permits, Environmental Assessment Worksheets and surface
water. plans.
Horning said the County Park Commission is not anticipa-
ting storage on Eagle Point Lake in the Regional Park Plan.
3M PLAN:3M provided copies.of their plan to solve the surface
water problems from Lake Elmo to West Lakeland and Afton.
The Managers said they would instruct their engineer to
study the plan. They said they would still need a petition
from a City to carry out the 3M project if it is found
feasible. Several representatives from 3M were present;
and said 3M would decide what corporate funds might be
available for this project once the District determines
if it is feasible; and the City decides if they would
petition for it.
GENERAL CONSIDERATIONS: hedges presented illustration on cost -
benefit ratios to explain the problems with ordering small
projects. He explained that the District may not be able
to assess for a larger, more comprehensive project if a
smaller project is done now, as there may not be enough
additional benefit for the larger project when the benefits
for the smaller project are subtracted from the total
benefit. The District is, therefore, concerned about
doing small piecemeal projects.
The Managers and the Council also discussed some general
philosophical issues with respect to the process and con=
terns each must have to carry out surface water management
projects and petitions to the district.
The meeting -djourned at 10:30 p.m.
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